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Sam Heughan, Closeted Gay Actor, Lead in "Outlander" -- Part 24

He pings to high heaven. Last year, Heughan and his rumored bf -Luke Neal- spent over a month travelling together around the world. Sam also brought Luke to the Outlander premiere and several private parties. . After this trip, the gay rumors about Sam were everywhere and Luke -an actor and writer- deleted ALL his SM. People who met Heughan at the British theatre, say that Sam was openly gay before the STARZ contract:

[quote]"Knew him in the theatre scene back in the day. Nice guy. And openly gay then."

[quote] "Oh darling, of course I’m an old gossip. Have you never met a theatre queen before? Everyone in the biz knows he’s gay, which is not a big deal here. But it is in the US and in the movie industry, so I don’t think anyone was shocked or upset that he’s decided to closet"

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by Anonymousreply 600January 1, 2018 8:08 PM

More sources confirming that Sam is gay.

Our darling, Lady Goodman, whose cousin met Sam at the RCS, posted this interesting info. Her cousin confirms that Sam is gay:

[quote]"I started watching Outlander last year and commented on Facebook how much I enjoyed it. My cousin private messaged me and was like "I went to RCS with Heughan,remember?" , I didn't because my cousin isn't in the acting/directing game anymore and is now working as a "civilian", so I'd completely forgotten he went to the Conservatoire as its now called. I commented that I thought he was lovely and he'd have to intro me when I was next in Scotland (I was saying this jokingly,I'm married.) and he replied "Sorry to burst your bubble, gorgeous as you are, I don't think you've got what he's looking for if you know what I mean..."

[quote]"And he was like "He's gay. I don't know why this is a thing. I'm sure he's photographed with women, I've seen him around home with women. He is gay. He just is. Didnt know he was saying otherwise. Weird to try and hide it now. Bit of a risk this late in the game."

by Anonymousreply 1November 19, 2017 9:38 PM

People who has met Sam's ex-boyfriends.....

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by Anonymousreply 2November 19, 2017 9:39 PM

More sources about Sam being gay, from the previous threads:

[quote]"I’ve known he’s gay since right after he was cast. Many UK fans I befriended early know it and shared that information. They have family and friends who work on Outlander. Others knew of Sam beforehand. Even though crew/production/cast sign NDAs they do share gossip with people they are close too who wont talk openly. Back then everything was more accessible but once the show premiered. and was a huge success, the UK fans all shut up. It’s like a protective shield around Sam to help him keep it a secret. But the truth is out there. More recently, I found out that the brother of my fiance best friend hooked up with Sam in drama school. It was in the context of a casual discussion when both the brother and my guy were both in a Barbour store together. The brother mentioned it in passing after seeing Sam in the window and my guy told me because he knows I’m a fan of the show. It’s NBD in Scotland or the rest of the UK. It’s an open secret scenario."

by Anonymousreply 3November 19, 2017 9:41 PM

Another source from Edingburgh:

[quote]"Straight woman lurker here and I'm actually embarrassed by the "he's gotta be straight" troll. He's not straight. My friend is from Edinburgh. His folks live in the same neighborhood as Sam's. Not exactly a secret and here's the amazing thing, nobody there gives a shit. Sam's a nice guy, so is his family. Its only the fans in the US that seem to lose their shit about an actor's personal life. For me, Sam's a cute pup but give me some Graham McTavish any day!"

by Anonymousreply 4November 19, 2017 9:42 PM

Link to the previous thread:

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by Anonymousreply 5November 19, 2017 9:46 PM

Ping, ping, ping

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by Anonymousreply 6November 20, 2017 12:24 AM

There is no way he doesn’t like men.

by Anonymousreply 7November 20, 2017 12:48 AM

Luke Neal talking about his boy:

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by Anonymousreply 8November 20, 2017 12:53 AM

MARY!

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by Anonymousreply 9November 20, 2017 1:27 AM

All the 'sources' are just links to other message boards or hearsay from 'people in London.'

Then we have the 'bearding examples', the straight girl Taylor Swift who you all think is a lesbian. Oh, and a link to someone who bearded for Ellen Page back in the 90s.

You are all vile, homophobic people.

by Anonymousreply 10November 20, 2017 2:41 AM

Not true, R10.

You are the shamzie/Larrie/Tinhat Homophobic Troll who just can't leave these threads alone.

Adorable GAY Sam for you:

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by Anonymousreply 11November 20, 2017 3:12 AM

I’m wasn't kidding about Spaz being on drugs. The troll started a thread on how to stockpile OTC meds and extract the codeine so you can get hopelessly addicted to painkillers.

[quote]Hey R31. Look up 'cold water extraction' on the internet. You need a coffee filter, a pill crusher and a fridge. This only works for acetaminophen and codeine. Don't try it if the pills contain anything else. It's easy and it works but I'm not putting it on here, don't want to get banned.

Now there’s a public service to the gay community, You want to talk "vile," encouraging people to get hooked on painkillers is right up there. Meanwhile, the same troll is on this thread ranting because why? People are gossiping about an actor who was openly gay and has chosen to closet? If anyone should get their ass banned from DL, it’s Spaz for promoting abuse of painkillers.

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by Anonymousreply 12November 20, 2017 3:43 AM

Spaz won't get banned for that. There are plenty of threads about people taking actual hard drugs, not legal OTC painkillers.

by Anonymousreply 13November 20, 2017 3:50 AM

I just hope he finds a man he can live and be happy with.

by Anonymousreply 14November 20, 2017 3:52 AM

It's hilarious how the morons who think Sam is gay and bearding also think Taylor Swift is gay and bearding and Harry Styles is gay and bearding. They're trying to convince people Armie Hammer is unhappy with his wife and baby because he is secretly closeted.

THERE IS NO CLOSET HERE, LADIES! NOTHING TO SEE, YOU HIDEOUS WIZENED FRAUS.

by Anonymousreply 15November 20, 2017 3:52 AM

[quote]Spaz won't get banned for that. There are plenty of threads about people taking actual hard drugs, not legal OTC painkillers.

Just like there are plenty of gossip threads about closeted actors, Spaz, and you can stop referring to yourself in the third person, you sad fucking loser.

by Anonymousreply 16November 20, 2017 3:56 AM

IF YOU CHOOSE TO RIDE THE PRANCING PONY, YOU WILL BE DISMOUNTED.

Sam is not gay, or closeted, therefore you are riding the pony and will be banned. The Lotr tinhats were all banned from DL for taking up too much of the site's bandwidth with their NUMEROUS threads about the actors being closeted and bearding. Guess what? THEY WERE STRAIGHT, JUST LIKE SAM IS!

So your time here is limited.

by Anonymousreply 17November 20, 2017 3:59 AM

Guys, you need to accept you're gonna be banned, this is the 24th thread and you're using up the data saying the same stuff all the time 'Gay Sam for you', 'He pings to high heaven', 'they said he was gay in London so he must be gay'. Now you're arguing with the Spaz Troll, it can only end badly.

by Anonymousreply 18November 20, 2017 4:02 AM

The Spaz Troll rules this thread, the ridiculous fraus for some reason won't block him. I guess arguing with him is all they have to do, in between screaming about how gay Sam looks in various pictures.

by Anonymousreply 19November 20, 2017 4:06 AM

Gay Sam for the druggie troll

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by Anonymousreply 20November 20, 2017 4:16 AM

Just FF and block the troll, don't argue with this trash.

by Anonymousreply 21November 20, 2017 8:34 AM

Omg... Who started this dumb thread anyway ? Who the Fu@k cares if Heughan is Gay it not ? What are u all trying to prove ? A bunch of stalkers with way too much time on their hands !!!!!! Your a scary crew!!!

by Anonymousreply 22November 20, 2017 10:42 AM

Sam doesn't have to come out during filming of season 4, he's spending all his days on remote locations throughout Scotland where noone gives a fuck who's fucking him.

A compleely off topic question: I can't see all the answers, but I haven't blocked any posters. What am I doing wrong? For example on this thread I can't see posts nr. 10, 13, 15, 17 and 18, there's just blank space. Can anyone please help?

by Anonymousreply 23November 20, 2017 12:19 PM

r23 Posts have been removed by mods, to much FF.

by Anonymousreply 24November 20, 2017 1:12 PM

Thanks R24, good to know the problem's not on my side.

by Anonymousreply 25November 20, 2017 2:05 PM

Why is there such a difference between UK and US when it comes to closeting do you think? I mean, yes the "rewards" in Hollywood are far greater than here, so there is potentially a lot more at risk ....but, it's practically expected that male actors in the uk, certainly in theatre, are gay (exaggerating a bit here but you get my point). The big "oh my god you can't come out you'll ruin your career" thing doesn't really happen here - well not to the same extent. What is it? Genuinely interested in opinions, because I don't know

by Anonymousreply 26November 20, 2017 3:15 PM

Good question, R26. I don't think it's the consumers. I think a certain power structure has evolved in Hollywood that thrives on secrecy, shaming and exploitation. It's a myth perpetuated by the US entertainment industry that audiences won't accept a gay actor playing straight. It's just institutionalized homophobia and those walls are breaking down as younger moviegoers give less credence to rigid notions of sexuality and gender.

by Anonymousreply 27November 20, 2017 4:08 PM

Younger audiences give less credence to sexuality and gender. What a world this would be if sexuality and gender were as incidental as hair color.

by Anonymousreply 28November 20, 2017 4:20 PM

[quote]What a world this would be if sexuality and gender were as incidental as hair color.

Amen to that, brother.

by Anonymousreply 29November 20, 2017 4:27 PM

because half of the US are fundamental Christians (who really aren't Christians but think they are, as witnessed by recent events) who think it is wrong to be gay and if they can't pray it away they'll just terrorize you or ignore you

by Anonymousreply 30November 20, 2017 5:12 PM

R27 Here's hoping then, that recent events have some kind of positive effect for gay folk in the industry and characters with hideous attitudes like Weinstein disintegrate and make way for those who recognise consumers cannot be arsed with this!

R28 wouldn't that just be the thing indeed 😍 #oneday

by Anonymousreply 31November 20, 2017 5:24 PM

R8

Luke and his boy Sam after their trip together around the world, and just right before the PR fuckery started.......

Luke has been MIA since then. Not a coincidence.

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by Anonymousreply 32November 20, 2017 7:47 PM

Ours is the last generation that will define themselves by their sex and by their sexual orientation. When I talk to my 2 younger children (late teens and early 20s) They don't see their sexual orientation or their friends as"fixed" for their lifetime. They are in heterosexual relationship at the present but that could change in the future. Very liberating really.

by Anonymousreply 33November 20, 2017 8:32 PM

r24, downvoted posts aren't being removed, just hidden. You can make them visible in the Settings.

by Anonymousreply 34November 20, 2017 9:01 PM

r26, I suppose it's all about target audiences, not countries. Older women are the majority of OL audience, they're more conservative/traditional/homophobic. Sam won't come out until his contract with Starz is over. Though I'm personally quite dissapointed he agreed with bearding narrative since he seemed to be a genuine guy, he said private life should remain private and then jumped into this cheap circus.

by Anonymousreply 35November 20, 2017 9:35 PM

Related

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by Anonymousreply 36November 20, 2017 9:44 PM

He deleted the tweet it looks like R36

Here's what he said:

“No Laughter in this. This is the perfect example of an old society teaching Gay men to hate themselves enough to marry women, Vote Against LGBTQ rights, & live fake horrible lives. Thank God the equality movement has empowered so many gay men to be 100% perfect as themselves.”

by Anonymousreply 37November 20, 2017 9:47 PM

And he linked to this tweet

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by Anonymousreply 38November 20, 2017 9:49 PM

I just checked. The link worked for me. I can still see the tweet. So I don’t think he deleted it. Such a great tweet though. So much truth in those words.

by Anonymousreply 39November 20, 2017 9:54 PM

r34 how? I don't see anything

by Anonymousreply 40November 20, 2017 9:56 PM

It's most likely cached for you R39

by Anonymousreply 41November 20, 2017 9:57 PM

Ah your probably right r41

by Anonymousreply 42November 20, 2017 9:58 PM

That hair line doeeee...

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by Anonymousreply 43November 20, 2017 10:07 PM

Poor guy

by Anonymousreply 44November 20, 2017 10:09 PM

R44 hahaha 😂 still love him though.

by Anonymousreply 45November 20, 2017 10:12 PM

I wonder is Sam actually thinks people believe he’s straight. There’s no way he’s straight 💁‍♀️

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by Anonymousreply 46November 20, 2017 10:14 PM

At least he doesn’t get his brows done like that anymore.

by Anonymousreply 47November 20, 2017 10:15 PM

Why do you think decided for him to go back in the closet...him or the people behind making money off of him?

by Anonymousreply 48November 20, 2017 10:16 PM

[quote]I wonder is Sam actually thinks people believe he’s straight. There’s no way he’s straight 💁‍♀️

The SHAMzies and the samcait shippers believe that he is straight.

by Anonymousreply 49November 20, 2017 10:17 PM

They don’t count because they are fucking delusional people that want to marry him and have his babies and are blinded by their own ignorance so they refused to accept the truth.

by Anonymousreply 50November 20, 2017 10:19 PM

Probably the people making money off of him that convinced him to play a straight man. He’s never said he wasn’t gay. Which says something to me.

by Anonymousreply 51November 20, 2017 10:21 PM

Agreed. A straight man in that type of lifestyle would be quick to defend his sexuality. Sam has never. Has a journalist or interviewer ever straight up asked him?

by Anonymousreply 52November 20, 2017 10:22 PM

The "entertainment journos" are usually given instructions by the publicists as to what they can ask about and what's off limits.

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by Anonymousreply 53November 20, 2017 10:35 PM

He went "straight" in order to be in the running to play James Bond when Daniel Craig ages out of the role.

by Anonymousreply 54November 20, 2017 10:40 PM

R53 very good point . Totally didn’t think about that.

by Anonymousreply 55November 20, 2017 10:41 PM

I’m sure actors probably tell their publicist what questions not ask them as well.

by Anonymousreply 56November 20, 2017 10:42 PM

It didn't work for Tom Hiddleston either R54

by Anonymousreply 57November 20, 2017 10:43 PM

Never thought Tom was gay. Just always thought he was stuck up and full of himself. Never cared enough to even think about it. Not a Tom fan at all. Also I see a lot of people here think Henry Cavil is gay. Never got that vibe from him either. Maybe my gaydar needs a tune up.

by Anonymousreply 58November 20, 2017 10:53 PM

R54, apparently, aging out of the role isn't relevant if the box office tells a different $tory. Craig is pushing 50 and was threatening to bail but will probably hang there in for the 25th Bond...

[quote]But the latest is that Craig will return, according to The Mirror. Reportedly, the actor, who famously said he would "rather slash [his] wrists" than return to the role has agreed to don the spy suit once more, after hearing about the galaxy of stars who were ready to replace him. Craig has been at the centre of the franchise's most lucrative films to date: Skyfall grossed $1.1 billion at the international box office, making it the highest-ever grossing film for Sony Pictures and the second highest-earning of 2012. Spectre, the 2015 follow-up, is the fourth biggest earner in the franchise's 53-year-history after Thunderball (1965) and Goldfinger (1964) with inflation.

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by Anonymousreply 59November 20, 2017 10:58 PM

Craig is definitely going to do one more. Sam could never be bond..and it has nothing to do with him being gay.

by Anonymousreply 60November 21, 2017 12:51 AM

We're overdue for a gay Bond. There's always been a bromance between 007 and Felix Leiter...

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by Anonymousreply 61November 21, 2017 1:05 AM

Here they are updated, in Casino Royale...

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by Anonymousreply 62November 21, 2017 1:11 AM

And in Quantum of Solace...

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by Anonymousreply 63November 21, 2017 1:12 AM

I mean I wouldn’t be mad at a gay bond...but I just don’t see that happening.

by Anonymousreply 64November 21, 2017 1:13 AM

Bringing these quotes from the previous thread. MM is all over the Seahawks game tonight.......;)

[quote]"MM does follow Jimmy Graham on Twitter and has liked a number of tweets both by and about him recently. She hasn't liked any of Sam's since September.

[quote]"She has been in Seattle for the last couple weeks just" returning back to LA last weekend, and this guy is also a pilot with his own planes, just saying"

[quote]"I did hear a rumour last week that she was hooking up with a Seahawk, but I'd like solid evidence."

[quote]"Just finished reading the forum discussion about Jimmy Graham and MM. the poster said that he saw them out for dinner. He is a huge Seahawks fan, his sister is a MM fan from Into The Woods. When he told his sister, she was mad that he hadn't gotten MM's autograph."

[quote]"Is it true the adjacent's sister unfollowed Sam? Yes, it's true."

[quote]"Another tidbit, MM was 100% in a private plane on October 27 based on the winglets and wingspan. If you lighten a Still from her video you can see the stabilizing bar connecting wing to the fuselage. She did not fly commercial to Washington."

[quote]"The guy is a pilot, that's why it matters. He has his own plane."

by Anonymousreply 65November 21, 2017 2:08 AM

Sam is not gay, never has been gay, never will be gay.

So many pathetic fraus on this thread.

Some of you clearly have the Spaz Troll blocked from ages ago if his posts are missing. He bothers you, tells you awful things.

by Anonymousreply 66November 21, 2017 2:44 AM

WHEN WILL YOU REALISE THAT SAM IS FUCKING HARRY STYLES?

by Anonymousreply 67November 21, 2017 2:51 AM

Sam...

by Anonymousreply 68November 21, 2017 2:55 AM

Is...

by Anonymousreply 69November 21, 2017 2:56 AM

Gay...

by Anonymousreply 70November 21, 2017 2:56 AM

Gay sam for you

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by Anonymousreply 71November 21, 2017 3:01 AM

Fresh botox

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by Anonymousreply 72November 21, 2017 3:04 AM

Worst hairstyle ever! Hoping he fired this stylist.

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by Anonymousreply 73November 21, 2017 3:17 AM

Harry Styles? I would like to think he has better taste than that but to each their own.

by Anonymousreply 74November 21, 2017 3:44 AM

Haha I highly doubt Sam is fucking Harry. Plus Sam prefers blondes.

by Anonymousreply 75November 21, 2017 3:58 AM

Hmmm....

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by Anonymousreply 76November 21, 2017 1:47 PM

R76 Scottish wood obvs 😒😒

by Anonymousreply 77November 21, 2017 1:57 PM

That's "hairstyles" not "Harry Styles," ya drug-addled troll. Speaking tonsorially, here's young Heughan, pre-combover...

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by Anonymousreply 78November 21, 2017 4:22 PM

Will & Grace......

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by Anonymousreply 79November 21, 2017 6:11 PM

MM is in some family trip for Thanksgiving.

Let's hope the PR fuckery is OVER.

by Anonymousreply 80November 21, 2017 9:58 PM

All that carefully orchestrated SM innuendo with the beard from last Thanksgiving got blown to shreds after Hannah James told an interviewer that she was filming scenes with Heughan on Thanksgiving.

[quote]We’re both just trying to figure out how to make the other one comfortable, and I wanted to sit there and have a good laugh about it [with Sam], which we absolutely did! What people don’t know is that we filmed that scene on Thanksgiving Day, so I had to skip out on Thanksgiving feasting and instead be in the middle of Scotland doing a sex scene with a stranger! It wasn’t the worst way to spend Thanksgiving, either. I was doing what I love, and I was working with an incredible actor.

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by Anonymousreply 81November 21, 2017 10:11 PM

Gay Sam

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by Anonymousreply 82November 21, 2017 11:24 PM

MM was with her family in NC last year for Thanksgiving. Sam showed up after the holiday. Is it over??

by Anonymousreply 83November 22, 2017 12:01 AM

MM was in NC last year with family for Thanksgiving. Sam showed up after the holiday. Is it over??

by Anonymousreply 84November 22, 2017 12:06 AM

Sam spotted arriving in LA

by Anonymousreply 85November 22, 2017 12:17 AM

There are pictures of Sam arriving in LA

by Anonymousreply 86November 22, 2017 12:47 AM

R84

Last year, MM was wearing Billy's shirt and Billy's brother liked her Thanksgiving pic.

MM and Billy had just spent some days together travelling through NY upstate.

by Anonymousreply 87November 22, 2017 12:47 AM

R83/R84

Last year, MM was wearing Billy's shirt in her Thanksgiving pic and Billy's brother liked the post.

MM and Billy had just spent some days together travelling through NY upstate.

by Anonymousreply 88November 22, 2017 12:48 AM

Isn't MM in LA? so do you think Sam went to spend Thanksgiving with her?

by Anonymousreply 89November 22, 2017 12:53 AM

r85 / 86 where's the link?

by Anonymousreply 90November 22, 2017 12:59 AM

Lies. The pics would be all over IG.

by Anonymousreply 91November 22, 2017 1:11 AM

Gay Sam

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by Anonymousreply 92November 22, 2017 1:12 AM

R91 Exactly! They would have been conveniently dropped off to P-Redux on Tumblr by now *eyes roll*

by Anonymousreply 93November 22, 2017 1:19 AM

Notice how they darken his eyes in those fashion shoots (R82) so you focus on the clothes.

by Anonymousreply 94November 22, 2017 1:34 AM

He does look like a zombie those shoots.

by Anonymousreply 95November 22, 2017 1:41 AM

The samcait shippers have found a new pic of Cait at the NYFW. Could the guy in the background be Sam?

If it's him, that would prove -once again, since he was also spotted at Equinox Gym during that week- that he was NOT in France with the beard but that he stayed in NY.

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by Anonymousreply 96November 22, 2017 1:46 AM

can’t really tell if it’s him.

by Anonymousreply 97November 22, 2017 2:51 AM

And even if he is in LA ...didn’t some post earlier she is on a road trip. Which would mean she’s not in LA.

by Anonymousreply 98November 22, 2017 2:52 AM

It's not him. Different build

by Anonymousreply 99November 22, 2017 3:05 AM

That’s a photo from last summer, not recent

by Anonymousreply 100November 22, 2017 3:17 AM

Agreed. Not him.

by Anonymousreply 101November 22, 2017 3:27 AM

R72

for the 100th time - Sam doesn't do Botox - he has an unlined forehead. naturally. If he did Botox, he couldnt produce a forehead full of wrinkles. like this.

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by Anonymousreply 102November 22, 2017 4:46 AM

Lmao!!! I bet anything he has gotten Botox at least once. It’s funny how you know as if you knew him personally. Stop acting like you know what he has and hasn’t done. Creeper.

by Anonymousreply 103November 22, 2017 4:48 AM

R102...that’s not true. Being able to produce lines on your forehead would depend on how much Botox you get. Obviously certain celebrities cannot but that’s due to the amount of Botox they get. Kim Kardashian gets Botox and she is still able to produce lines when her eyebrows are lifted. Her mom Kris definitely gets Botox and she also can produce lines. Botox is meant to soften lines and wrinkles that appear without facial expression. Cait gets Botox in her forehead too..and she also can produce lines when lifting her brows. Educate yourself.

by Anonymousreply 104November 22, 2017 4:52 AM

Sam's next gig

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by Anonymousreply 105November 22, 2017 5:00 AM

He's playing another guy named "Jamie?"

by Anonymousreply 106November 22, 2017 5:32 AM

Did this get revived? It's from two years ago...

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by Anonymousreply 107November 22, 2017 5:40 AM

There's no way Sam could ever have any onscreen chemistry with Melissa Benoist. Or any other woman.

by Anonymousreply 108November 22, 2017 5:54 AM

Oops R85 & R86! You posted before realizing she’d already left LA. I imagine you wish you could abort that troll attempt.

by Anonymousreply 109November 22, 2017 6:51 AM

It’s not on his IMDB under upcoming projects. So I don’t think so.

by Anonymousreply 110November 22, 2017 7:13 AM

R105 et al. That project got dropped; it was a mess. The girl, now grown woman, who played one of the teenagers on Once and Again with Sela Ward (15-18 years ago) (not Rachel Evan Wood - the other girl) is now a writer; she got pulled in to rescue the script but it crashed anyway, but she got the rights to do a book and now it's going to be published. It's a romance. And they're using Sam's face to sell the book even though the project is dead. Oh yeah, the writer is Julia Whelan. She was a decent teen actress in reasonably good network chick drama; don't know about her writing.

Bottom line tho, not a new Sam project. Just trying to sucker in all the Heughan fangirls to buy the book.

It is a reminder of the low scale of project he was aiming at in the pre- and early days of Outlander. It was later, in the spring of 2016 that he hired his new PR team and started bearding.

by Anonymousreply 111November 22, 2017 7:40 AM

For sure, Sam is working in Scotland this week and is not in LA. (Not that we thought he was.) They don't have Thanksgiving and they are shooting block 2 of Season 4. His Scottish / Outlander driver just now tagged him on Twitter - picked him up for work, coffee in hand (it's for sure dark and cold in Scotland right now - those outdoor shoots must be murder with like 7 hours of daylight this time of year).

by Anonymousreply 112November 22, 2017 8:01 AM

LOL. I love the tweets between Sam and Steven Cree. So Steven is "to short" to ride Sam anyway.

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by Anonymousreply 113November 22, 2017 8:40 AM

Saying someone is closeted is not tinhatting. Tinhatting is about shipping, ie the belief that two actors are secretly in love with each other. Tinhats are almost all women, and tinhatting is inherently about repressed sexual desire being projected onto "gay" men because of sexual repression and internalised misogyny.

Most of the women who tinhat (like Larries) divide their time between writing very sexually explicit panting fanfic, and ranting about how icky (straight) sex is and how sexually active women are dirty whores.

People have speculated that Sam dates or used to date Luke, but no one is getting off on writing porn fanfic about them, or breathlessly posting about their tru wuv 4eva.

Also, a key component of tinhatting is the belief the men in question are being forced to closet against their will (the poor innocent angels). No one thinks Sam is closeting for any reason than his own career ambitions, and this is hardly uncommon. Almost every celeb who comes out states they were warned or pressured to closet because coming out would damage their careers. Sam is where Luke Evans was a few years ago.

by Anonymousreply 114November 22, 2017 9:54 AM

r114. Great post.

by Anonymousreply 115November 22, 2017 10:24 AM

[quote] "....they were warned or pressured to closet because coming out would damage their careers. Sam is where Luke Evans was a few years ago."

EXACTLY.

The Curious Case of Closeting Luke Evans:

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by Anonymousreply 116November 22, 2017 10:14 PM

A fan has met Sam in Edinburgh tonight:

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by Anonymousreply 117November 22, 2017 10:28 PM

I top

by Anonymousreply 118November 22, 2017 11:47 PM

Sam? Wrong thread hon.

by Anonymousreply 119November 23, 2017 12:23 AM

[quote]There's no way Sam could ever have any onscreen chemistry with Melissa Benoist. Or any other woman.

He said in his Q&A that his best memory on the set of Outlander was with the Highlanders but I'd wager it was actually when he spent those ten days on a closed set with Menzies rubbing his cock against his ass.

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by Anonymousreply 120November 23, 2017 1:28 AM

IF THERE'S NO BEARDING, WHAT WILL YOU UGLY DOGS CHAT ABOUT?

by Anonymousreply 121November 23, 2017 1:37 AM

This is what codeine abuse is does to the body, troll. Sound familiar? Fuck you for trying to get other DLers hooked.

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by Anonymousreply 122November 23, 2017 1:52 AM

[quote]He said in his Q&A that his best memory on the set of Outlander was with the Highlanders but I'd wager it was actually when he spent those ten days on a closed set with Menzies rubbing his cock against his ass.

No doubt about that.....;))

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by Anonymousreply 123November 23, 2017 2:00 AM

Hey goody goody two shoes R122! This is DL, bitch, people on here share their experiences of taking drugs. You're here getting all pussy and SJW about a Brit taking OTC codeine? Fuck off out of here.

Sam has done his fair share of opiates and benzos, you can be sure of that.

by Anonymousreply 124November 23, 2017 2:01 AM

[quote]people on here share their experiences of taking drugs

You think that excuses you? Only sociopaths try to get other people hooked on painkillers. Fuck off, ya drug addled cunt.

by Anonymousreply 125November 23, 2017 2:15 AM

My sources tell me that a certain blogger recently wagged her finger at the fantards for posting a faux picture of Heughan.

[quote]But hey, if some pic of faux or real Sam gives ES happiness in their miserable “my real life sucks so badly I have to live vicariously thru someone else’s and bully people in the process” lives, then let ‘em have it. I’ll be over here in REALITY shopping for Thanksgiving, and then going home to have toe curlingly satisfying REAL sex with my REAL man. Real sex with a real man usually prevents one from gearing one’s entire existence around someone else’s sex life.

WTF? This bitch has been blogging about Heughan and his various beards for four years and has a library of 20,000 screencaps of fan shit!

[quote]I literally have 20,000 screencaps saved. Any time anyone wants me to go into my archives, I can PROVE everything I’m saying is true.

How’s that not gearing one’s entire existence around someone else’s sex life? Okay, my secret sources tell me PurvScilla's REAL man is actually a faux Sam that she special-ordered online and my source DM’d me a picture. But hey, if some faux Sam gives PurvScilla happiness in her miserable “my real life sucks so badly I have to live vicariously thru someone else’s and bully people in the process” lives, then let her have it, I say!

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by Anonymousreply 126November 23, 2017 3:07 AM

Hmmm. It is getting ugly here. I started posting on this thread about #8. Because i found DL searching for gay Sam Heughan. A guy, I adore, for a couple of reasons. And, yes. I am a member of his MPC workout programm, and I owe him something for that, because it is a well done professional created thing.

So, taking benefit of this does not mean changing my mind about my feeling, that he is gay. The very first time, I've watched him in OL, zapping through the german public and private TV channels he has got my attraction. After watching him in Outlander for a couple of weeks, I googled him. And there were lot of pictures, videos of him outside character. After the first 10 minutes watching him outside character, Sam Heughan ringed a bell and reminded me at my long time gay friends.

I call my real friends a guy, who is succesful as a travestie star in Germany and on cruising ships with his lookalike as Marlene Dietrich show. And a very manly former Catholic priest, who is now a priest for the "old Catholic church" and a daytime worker for "Münchner AIDS Hilfe". I know my gay friends. And I didnt need their gaydar, to realize, that Sam Heughan is gay.

I've got bloody fingertips here, typing and googling for translations, finding the correct ones. I've written long sermons about how PR works. Because, I know about it. This is my business. I have worked on both sites, PR and press. And I am still doing that.

What I really do not like, that this thread is the new battleground for people following the idea that Sam Heughan and Caitriona Balfe or Sam Heughan and Mackenzie Mauzy are a couple. None of this is true, and the original posters and longtime inhabitants know this.

So. Please. Let us go back to the topic. Gay Sam Heughan.

by Anonymousreply 127November 23, 2017 5:56 PM

R123

[quote]He said in his Q&A that his best memory on the set of Outlander was with the Highlanders but I'd wager it was actually when he spent those ten days on a closed set with Menzies rubbing his cock against his ass.

And Sam on top:

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by Anonymousreply 128November 23, 2017 6:34 PM

Spotted by a fan in Glasgow...

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by Anonymousreply 129November 23, 2017 8:06 PM

r128. That for sure was bis best acting performance in Outlander. It was probably the closest one to his own self. The most belivable.

But. He really impressed me much more in "A very british sex scandal". I liked his acting. So. Now it is for the money. He did everything for Jamie Fraser, he spent trillions of minutes at the gym to make slim guy look like Arnold S. He is really dedicated to what he does.

My question. What will happen to him, when OL is over? No announcement of a S5.

by Anonymousreply 130November 23, 2017 9:22 PM

FWIW, R130, Starz seems pretty happy with the ratings and buzz from Outlander, from a business perspective, that is. I wouldn't rule out a renewal, and I think the leads are signed for seven.

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by Anonymousreply 131November 23, 2017 9:36 PM

according to that write up they would be foolish to not renew it for another few seasons. who was it on here that said viewership was down?

by Anonymousreply 132November 23, 2017 9:51 PM

r131. As I ve read. Seven years. Not seven parts. May be they will do a S5, but the story is told after the 4th book. The writers already did a lot of overtime to get Gabaldons endless words into 13 episodes. By the way. This is the thread about Sam Heughan. Not Outlander. Thanks

by Anonymousreply 133November 23, 2017 9:56 PM

R133. I'm very aware the thread is about Sam, not Outlander. I was responding to your own comment that the show hasn't been renewed for S5 and what that might mean for Sam's career. This isn't a comment about the merits or demerits of the source material, just pointing out that the studio seems happy with it and that Sam has already been signed for more if they decide to continue. So as far as staying on topic, back atcha, hon ;)

by Anonymousreply 134November 23, 2017 10:23 PM

Thank you,R127,outlander tumbler fighting is not where we wanna be. There's not much to say about Sam's gayness right now ,as he seems pretty under wraps,but we've all learned alot about the insidious evil that is closeting here.

by Anonymousreply 135November 23, 2017 10:25 PM

So,after season 5 would the. 7 yr. contract be up ,cause it takes so long to film with long breaks? Sorry,math not my strongest skill.

by Anonymousreply 136November 23, 2017 10:29 PM

r136. Me thinks: Yes. Probably before. According to Sam, he was the first hired. Source is Diana Gabaldon HP. November 2013. Sam Heughan probably signed a couple of weeks before. So August 2013 for seven years. Ends 2020. They are filming S 4 until spring 2018. Premiere, if they are in the schedule and in the award season probably mid year. The leads will be asking for some time off for recreation and doing other stuff. Promotion for S 4 will take another month. We are getting close to late 2018. So, if they will do a S5, which is still not announced, will probably filmed ending mid 2019. With all promotion and delayed airing we will reach 2020.

by Anonymousreply 137November 23, 2017 11:05 PM

I thought he signed for 7 Seasons, not years

by Anonymousreply 138November 23, 2017 11:17 PM

r138. Contracts have a date. So 7 Sears.

by Anonymousreply 139November 23, 2017 11:44 PM

r139 #139. years.

by Anonymousreply 140November 23, 2017 11:48 PM

Thank you resident mathletics!

by Anonymousreply 141November 24, 2017 12:26 AM

r141. ... Me, trying my best to keep prejudice about germans bean counters stay alive.

by Anonymousreply 142November 24, 2017 1:02 AM

Paul Camuso has posted in his tumblr about the bearding:

[quote]"BTW, I have no idea if they have broken up or not. It’s not something I talk about or make inquiries on. I’m of the opinion that until they say they are not together; they are together."

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by Anonymousreply 143November 24, 2017 1:12 AM

'This thread is about Gay Sam.'

So that gives you leave to just post HE LOOKS GAY HERE over and over again?

by Anonymousreply 144November 24, 2017 1:54 AM

r143. Haha! Thanks for that find.

by Anonymousreply 145November 24, 2017 2:11 AM

R143, hmmm....interesting that Camuso is now claiming he doesn't know if MM and Sam are still together since he has claimed to "know" about their status since the bearding fiasco began. I wonder if this statement is intended to "signal" the upcoming "breakup" narrative. Maybe this round of bearding is over.

by Anonymousreply 146November 24, 2017 2:43 AM

R145, he's making excuses and trying to calm down the shamzies.

Everybody knows that Sam and the fake gf have not been in the same continent since months ago; they NEVER like each other's posts, that MM didn't travel for the BAFTAS, that they're spending Thanksgivings apart.....A very different situation from last year's PR fuckery.

by Anonymousreply 147November 24, 2017 2:43 AM

Greatly said r127 !!

by Anonymousreply 148November 24, 2017 3:22 AM

Piiiiiiiiing

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by Anonymousreply 149November 24, 2017 3:49 AM

Not in the know here, and definitely not commenting on the quality or lack thereof in the source material, but Ronald D. Moore said recently they want to do a season / year with regular Fall premiere - so that implies finishing S6 by premiere in Fall 2020, assuming 7 years is correct and not 7 seasons. Which, for the purposes of this thread, might mean at least several more years of OL for Sam. Especially if the article above is correct that this is good business for Starz. Who knows though, what that might mean for his career or for his coming out (again). ¯_(ツ)_/¯

by Anonymousreply 150November 24, 2017 4:21 AM

R143, they've never said they're together in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 151November 24, 2017 4:23 AM

Very true, R151. Neither has ever said so directly, ever. PR photos and PR articles do not count and in fact land them in the "trying too hard" zone which is was sent me to DL in the first place many threads ago ....

by Anonymousreply 152November 24, 2017 4:26 AM

[quote]PR photos and PR articles do not count and in fact land them in the "trying too hard" zone which is was sent me to DL in the first place many threads ago ....

EXACTLY.

Only gullible and dumb fangirls can believe that PR BS is real.

by Anonymousreply 153November 24, 2017 6:00 PM

Fan pic on set and apparently more bad wigs in store for S4...

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by Anonymousreply 154November 24, 2017 7:33 PM

[151] Right!

by Anonymousreply 155November 24, 2017 8:09 PM

What?!! "I know everything Camuso" is saying he doesn't know something? Uh huh, this round of bearding is over. It will be interesting to see what happens next. The bearding has been so ridiculous, they'd be smart to just STOP. If Sam isn't going to come out, hopefully he'll at least put his foot down and be done with that fuckery.

In other news, found this today ... sorry if it's already been posted. I'd never seen it. Steven Cree poking at Sam's private life with a big stick is simply thrilling to me (er, no pun intended).

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by Anonymousreply 156November 24, 2017 11:55 PM

Adorable Gay Sam and Cait.....

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by Anonymousreply 157November 25, 2017 12:32 AM

Camuso continues harrassing the shamzie queen who dared to say that Sam might be gay.

She must have hit a nerve....;)

[quote]What?!! "I know everything Camuso" is saying he doesn't know something? Uh huh, this round of bearding is over. It will be interesting to see what happens next. The bearding has been so ridiculous, they'd be smart to just STOP. If Sam isn't going to come out, hopefully he'll at least put his foot down and be done with that fuckery.

Let's hope so.

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by Anonymousreply 158November 26, 2017 12:07 AM

So. It is getting a little bit nasty in the real life outside our cozy DL bubble. Worth some words. And gives me some thoughts about PR and Social Media. And how irrational all this is. One of the leading "gay Sam Heughan and Mackenzie Mauzy have dated" tumblr queens is now trying to find another battlefield. Goes back digging another, gone beard of Sam to proof he has dated women.

So, I have to unterstand, that there are women, who will fight for life, that Sam Heughan is not gay.

There are women, and probably only women, spending time and lots of money to attend every official event, they can access with money. Flying first class to meet him at a comercial fan event in Seattle.

And now, all their, whatever sexual dreamings got out in flames. Because he nether will fuck Thema. He has never suggested it. And he will never do it in the future. Why is it so hard for they to unterstand, that he loves man?

by Anonymousreply 159November 26, 2017 12:50 AM

'And now, all their, whatever sexual dreamings got out in flames. Because he nether will fuck Thema. He has never suggested it. And he will never do it in the future. Why is it so hard for they to unterstand, that he loves man?'

What is this mangled hell of a paragraph!

Go back to high school.

by Anonymousreply 160November 26, 2017 12:53 AM

R160, there are many posters on this thread for whom English is not their first language. Show a little grace.

by Anonymousreply 161November 26, 2017 1:57 AM

Like R161 said, we don't discriminate against non-native English speakers. I think R159 is saying that the Shamzie bloggers are desperately scraping the bottom of the barrel to prove Heughan isn't gay and the fancunts are shelling out $$$ to follow Heughan around but their fantasies will never be realized because he's into men.

by Anonymousreply 162November 26, 2017 2:16 AM

'Why is it so hard for they to unterstand, that he loves man?'

Could it be because he has girlfriends and seems happy with them? In 2017, a closeted guy would not beard, he would just tell the media he was happily single.

by Anonymousreply 163November 26, 2017 2:23 AM

[quote]Post by tszuj on May 10, 2017 at 3:15pm

[quote]Isn't Sam gay? I mean, I guess he might be bi or something but he never gave any indication of being anything other than a solid Kinsey 6 (and out) before he went to America.

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by Anonymousreply 164November 26, 2017 2:27 AM

[quote]In 2017, a closeted guy would not beard, he would just tell the media he was happily single.

This SHAMzie/Larrie/tinhat homophobic troll lives in an alternate universe.....lol

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by Anonymousreply 165November 26, 2017 2:48 AM

[quote]Goes back digging another, gone beard of Sam to proof he has dated women.

MM's shadow is fading so the Purv troll brings back a past beard.

Who is really Purv? What's her job? She's always receiving screencaps, vids, pics....from her 'friends'.

Last summer, she disappeared from SM saying that "her job was done". She's friends with Camuso and Co....

by Anonymousreply 166November 26, 2017 3:00 AM

[quote]She's always receiving screencaps, vids, pics....from her 'friends'.

That's the funniest part. If Heughan had nothing to hide about having a girlfriend, then why would someone need to pass secret intel and videos about them to PurvScilla so she can, what... post them on her blog? LOL If Heughan's love life is so normal and hetero then why can't the original source post them? Obviously, this "industry insider" crap is manufactured to by PurvScilla to make her seem like a VIP. Meanwhile, she's a sad troll who maintains an archive of 20,000 screencaps. Pot meet kettle!

by Anonymousreply 167November 26, 2017 4:08 AM

PurvScilla/Shatner/Camuso are just pointers to the big gay elephant in the room. Otherwise, they wouldn't need to say anything.

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by Anonymousreply 168November 26, 2017 4:17 AM

Here's PurvScilla's big news...

[quote]Apparently a shipper troll account coaxed Abbie into changing her previous IG avi earlier today (SamCait shippers hated it because they knew it was taken in Sam’s kitchen when Sam and Abbie were dating). Then someone else let her know that the person asking her to change it was a shipper troll and that the SamCait shippers wanted her to change it because they don’t want evidence that she and Sam dated…and BOOM, look at Abbie’s response “I think everyone knows I did. But that was then this is now.”

Of course, everyone knows Abbie dated Heughan. Here they are on a date at the Monte Carlo TV Festival. LOL

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by Anonymousreply 169November 26, 2017 8:06 AM

r162. Thank for translating my thoughts in proper english. This was exactly what I ve tried to say

by Anonymousreply 170November 26, 2017 9:34 AM

Abbie Salt is a red herring because Heughan abruptly ghosted his last beard on SM with no explanation and PurvScilla can't fit it neatly into her 'Hetero Heughan' narrative. In fact, 'debunking' SamCait by Shatner/Camuso and the Shamzie queens is a red herring designed to divert attention away from the fact that Sam Heughan is a single man pushing 40 who's never been in a romantic relationship with a woman.

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by Anonymousreply 171November 26, 2017 5:20 PM

R167 , R171

And let's not forget that Abbie herself, denied dating Sam and asked "don't believe all the made up stuff".

Stuff made up by Purv, btw....xd

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by Anonymousreply 172November 26, 2017 7:49 PM

In tumblr, they're talking about Purv's tactics and lies:

[quote] "Purv has claimed that she had access to both Sam and Cait’s personal e-mail accounts. She further claimed that Cait followed her Twitter account by posting a photoshopped image. She says she spoke with Cait in dms and that she ‘made fun’ of shippers’. It was shown that the claim Cait followed her was completely false (and frankly, lunacy). In fact, Cait blocked Purv on Twitter. Purv tried to convince people this was not true by ‘retweeting’ some of Cait’s tweets but failed to copy them correctly, so they were obvious fakes."

[quote]"Purv and her group follow the sm accounts of any woman within Sam’s orbit. They sit on their list of followers until the slightest hint of a connection to Sam, and then publicly link them romantically. They stalk the extended friends and family of these women and publish details of their lives, travel, their professions, and social occasions they attend. Purv claimed to know intimate details of Sam’s relationship with one young woman, such as the fact that he liked her feet"

[quote]"Purv straight out created a false image of Sam and Abbie by photoshopping Sam’s head onto another man’s body. She published this without identifying it as a manip but later claimed it was fanart."

....etc

....etc

by Anonymousreply 173November 26, 2017 7:56 PM

I'm reading these messages and WTF is wrong with you sickminded stalkers . It's the Same Redundant mindless hearsay over and over again ... Really ????? Who cares if this guy is gay or not ? What's the purpose here ? Omg my friends mother knew Heughan when he was a theater kid and Omg .. He was out and proud !!!! Wait ... omg my brothers friend was in a clothing store and low and behold he dated Heughan ... Wowza ... 24 threads on this nonsense. Oh wait it's not nonsense because you scary stalkers need to prove something right ? God this is a snooze fest !!! You old ladies need to get lives and stop worrying about a guy who's laughing all the way to the bank !!!!! If he is gay WTF cares !!!! If he isn't WTF cares !!!! Why not talk about something of interest ? Like his beautiful face and body .. Not to mention the guy can act his ass off !!! Peace ✌️

by Anonymousreply 174November 26, 2017 11:42 PM

R174 Yet you keep returning. In case you forgot this site is about Gay Sam Heughan. If you want to discuss his looks or his acting there are dozens of tumblr sites you can go to.

Now! Back to Gay Sam

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by Anonymousreply 175November 27, 2017 12:03 AM

R174, please report this thread to the mods.

It's breaking the Prancing Pony rule.

by Anonymousreply 176November 27, 2017 12:09 AM

r175. Thanks. But do not feed our inhabitants and our new trolls. They lack of manours and dignity.

by Anonymousreply 177November 27, 2017 12:10 AM

From an old article:

"He was named one of the Most Charming Scottish Men by our Man Crush Monday bloggers. Sam Heughan is GAY (yayy!)"

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by Anonymousreply 178November 27, 2017 12:40 AM

Amen r175

by Anonymousreply 179November 27, 2017 12:45 AM

RELATED: This openly gay actor and series creator of "Eastsiders" shares his experience of Hollywood homophobia, sexual harassment and the closet...

[quote]At 18, he was invited to a party at an agent’s house. “He proceeded to tell me not to come out if I wanted to be an actor, to stay in the closet, and then tried to put his hand down my pants,” Williamson recalls. “It was this one, two punch of harassment and homophobia that was a bitter pill to swallow, and it soured me on Los Angeles for a couple of years.”

[quoteHe did not suffer any graver sexual assaults, as allegedly committed by the likes of Harvey Weinstein “and Kevin fucking Spacey. I think it’s really important we have these conversations. If Hollywood is to have any leg to stand on in shaping the culture we need to own up to the abuses of power that are very real.”

[quote]What his experience also shows, again, is Hollywood’s powerful gays seeking to keep the closet intact, part of a history—for Willliamson—of different groups acting as their own morality police and oppressors. “It’s very sad and true. There’s still not been a gay movie star. Look at a lot of people who have succeeded on television. Most come out after their big break. I’m not here to judge: It’s brave to come out at the height of your success, but in 2017 I think we need to look at the paths other people have blazed for us and be brave enough to walk down them without fear.”

[quote]Next for Williamson may come more EastSiders. He is also writing a series about queer thirtysomethings set in New Orleans. “I’d love to get to a place where the leads of a show can be gay where that is normal and not extraordinary,” says Williamson, “and where the storylines can be both unique to us and more universal in the same breath; where we are allowed to be doctors, husbands, wives, crazy, not crazy, parents, single, slutty, and settled. The whole incredible range of human experience should allowed to be represented in LGBT characters, where we are not defined solely by our sexuality.”

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by Anonymousreply 180November 27, 2017 1:45 AM

Adorable gay Sam....

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by Anonymousreply 181November 27, 2017 3:10 AM

This is the most homophobic thread on Datalounge, It's just an iteration of GAY SAM, SAM IS GAY, HE PINGS HERE, THEY SAID ON REDDIT THAT HE WAS GAY...ad infinitum.

You freaks keep the Spaz Troll unblocked because arguing with him gives this desperate thread some meaning.

by Anonymousreply 182November 27, 2017 3:14 AM

There's nothing wrong with pinging or being gay, R182. There's nothing wrong with talking about it in a GAY board .

Only homophobic trolls like you think that way. , More GAY Sam for you:

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by Anonymousreply 183November 27, 2017 3:29 AM

Sam liked one of MM’s Instagram posts from last August earlier this evening. What’s that all about? Nothing for weeks, then like an old post from Budapest last summer. Trying to make us think they are still together?

by Anonymousreply 184November 27, 2017 4:28 AM

What’s with Sam liking an old Instagram post by MM Sun evening? It’s from Budapest last summer. Nothing for weeks, then like an old post.

by Anonymousreply 185November 27, 2017 4:31 AM

What’s Sam doing liking an old MM post-from last August in Budapest

by Anonymousreply 186November 27, 2017 4:35 AM

Why are there 3 of the same type of post, just worded slightly different? We get it already.

by Anonymousreply 187November 27, 2017 4:44 AM

R184 and R185 and R186 is the same person - if you block one they all disappear

by Anonymousreply 188November 27, 2017 4:49 AM

Who the fuck cares what a person likes on Instagram

by Anonymousreply 189November 27, 2017 4:56 AM

R188 R186

I wouldn't make too much a big deal out of Sam liking an IG post. It's really easy to accidentally "like" a photo and not even realize it especially if you are scrolling through someone's old photos looking for something in particular. It's very easy to accidentally touch that button and never even know you did it.

Move on.

by Anonymousreply 190November 27, 2017 5:55 AM

R190 I agree. Not reading into any of it. I think MM is still in the picture. We haven't seen the last of her.

by Anonymousreply 191November 27, 2017 6:29 AM

I don’t get why people have a strong opinion about the beard. If it’s not her it’ll be someone else.

by Anonymousreply 192November 27, 2017 2:25 PM

R192 I agree, it is the same old thing regardless who it is.

by Anonymousreply 193November 27, 2017 3:05 PM

The shamzies seem to 'forget' that the beard has been liking Jimmy Graham's posts.....

by Anonymousreply 194November 27, 2017 5:06 PM

Sam's inviting ass in this week's episode:

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by Anonymousreply 195November 27, 2017 8:19 PM

Chris Parnell of Sony tells EW that they are in "early talks" for renewal of Outlander for Season 5.

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by Anonymousreply 196November 27, 2017 10:41 PM

He is really in good shape. As his private life is really private. Who might be the lucky guy, having fun with him? This adorable back without the scarf prosthetic. Lucky guy you are there outside the closeting bubble.

by Anonymousreply 197November 27, 2017 10:59 PM

I ve just went through the biggest part of the former suggested beards Abbie Melrose IG. The content is 80% food photos, which in the most time were not taken by her. A little, very little amount of her IG pictures are really snapshots. The overhelming content are pictures from professional photographers. So her confirming, she has dated Sam Heughan is as fake as her IG. It is all PR, like the whole other stories about hetero Sam Heughan.

by Anonymousreply 198November 27, 2017 11:48 PM

R198 The SHAMzie shippers have been Abbie, Amy, SamCait....shippers too. ABG (anything but gay)

Abbie should have been more honest, just like Amy Shiels did:

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by Anonymousreply 199November 28, 2017 12:23 AM

r195 With his boots on! Extra yummy!

by Anonymousreply 200November 28, 2017 12:30 AM

R195, what the fuck is the matter with his back in that gif? He has deep scars all over it.

by Anonymousreply 201November 28, 2017 1:25 AM

R201. It's part of the OL story that Heughan's character was severely whipped (twice) - and later raped - by a sadistic Redcoat officer, the one played by Tobias Menzies. The scars carry forward into subsequent seasons and story-years. Diana Gabaldon has a dark mind.

I'll leave it there since this isn't a thread on Outlander, though there's plenty of commentary on the topic if you want to look for it.

by Anonymousreply 202November 28, 2017 2:14 AM

R200 Those are his boots,I just thought his pants. He needs to pose in just boots that is a good look.

by Anonymousreply 203November 28, 2017 6:17 AM

The Asian dude who gives Jamie acupuncture also takes care of his anal needs...

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by Anonymousreply 204November 28, 2017 4:11 PM

Jamie loves when Mr. Willoughby administers the ancient art of acupressure...

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by Anonymousreply 205November 28, 2017 4:18 PM

It's uncanny how he knows just where to press...

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by Anonymousreply 206November 28, 2017 4:23 PM

He also performs other fine services...

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by Anonymousreply 207November 28, 2017 4:26 PM

and this...

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by Anonymousreply 208November 28, 2017 4:30 PM

and this...

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by Anonymousreply 209November 28, 2017 4:34 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 210November 28, 2017 4:52 PM

R195

Hot French actor Stanley Weber also thinks that Sam has an inviting ass.......

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by Anonymousreply 211November 28, 2017 7:23 PM

Sam flirting with Stanley.

Yes, he noticed your ass, Sam......

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by Anonymousreply 212November 29, 2017 5:54 PM

Stanley flirting back.

He would have liked to grab Sam's butt. Next time, perhaps?

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by Anonymousreply 213November 29, 2017 5:57 PM

Wee flirt

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by Anonymousreply 214November 29, 2017 10:33 PM

I am still counting on Duncan Lacroix being his friend. Moved to Glasgow, has no dating history with women, spends his holydays at a Canarian island searching for textile free spots a the beach.

by Anonymousreply 215November 29, 2017 10:45 PM

You can read into this or not...

[quote]The man woman thing is def f**ked

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by Anonymousreply 216November 30, 2017 5:21 AM

I loved those times when he was "flirting" a lot on SM with Lacroix, Stanley or Cree. His Closeting wasn't so heavy back then. Anyway also love his support for this charity right now. Even closeting and anti-stigmatizing-campaigns don't really fit together IMO.

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by Anonymousreply 217November 30, 2017 12:48 PM

[quote]closeting and anti-stigmatizing-campaigns don't really fit together

Yeah, but good on him for the RT. No complaints.

by Anonymousreply 218November 30, 2017 3:40 PM

[quote]I loved those times when he was flirtin a lot on SM with Lacroix, Stanley or Cree. His Closeting wasn't so heavy back then.

Sam and Stanley. kissy kissy....;))

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by Anonymousreply 219November 30, 2017 8:17 PM

Looks like S Weber is as thight lipped as SH

ix-foot guy with a ribbed physique is what most girls dream about, but this guy is more than handsome hunk as he is talented actor and theatre director. The French actor, Stanley Weber raced into the heartbeats of many with television series such as ‘Borgia’ and ‘Outlander.’ But despite the unbelievable amount of exposure he gets, Weber surprisingly keeps his personal information intact and never lets anything slip.

Career and Progression: The French acting powerhouse, Stanley Weber is not just a shooting star but the omnipresent moon. The graduate from the Conservatoire National supérieur d'art dramatique started his career from the Theatre performance with ‘Le Mal à dire’ in 2005, which was directed and written by Léon Masson.

After showing thrilling performance on the stage, he directed ‘Scarecrow,’ ‘Le Chevalier de la lune,’ and ‘Comment prendre 5 ans en l'espace de 2 h d'avion?’ in 2008, where he collaborated with Pierre Giafferi on two occasions.

Likewise, the director highlighted his career with television series ‘Borgia’ from 2011 to 2014. After numerous performances in theatre and television show, his dedication got more reward when he got cast as Comte St. Germain in the award winning series ‘Outlander.’ The show is not short of talents though, as they have Caitriona Balfe, Sam Heughan, Stephen Walters, Grant O’Rourke, Steven Cree, Sophie Skelton, and much more.

A Lost Battle to Find His Girlfriend! When the rumor of him dating his co-star Karen Gillan surfaced, media thought they had a real headline about Stanley’s personal life in 2013. But the rumors were quickly disposed to the garbage when the actor said that in an interview with Express.co.uk:

“I’d like to put it on record that I am single at the moment.” The French hunk is ruling the hearts of many girls, but after his public statement in 2013, he maintains a giant boundary. And it’s hard to draw any conclusive lines if he has someone special in life or is enjoying his bachelor life.

The ‘Outlander’ star is a travel freak and enjoys hiking to some of the beautiful places on the globe with his friends. His Instagram account gives his fans a quick recap of his journey to brain-calming places from mountains to desert. Go to his Instagram account, and you will see three things: traveling, traveling, and more traveling with his friends.

His social media accounts remain mum on his girlfriend. And the lack of ongoing dating affair would indeed invite the media to question his sexual orientation. However, as of today, he remains tight-lipped on the issue of whether or not he is a gay.

As of now, he is probably not married and focusing all his energy on his career. But if he decides to make a commitment and have a wife or partner, he would find it hard to select one in the mass of thousands of open admirer.

His Short Bio and Family: Stanley Weber was born in Paris, France on the 13th day of June in 1986 which makes his age 31. According to his wiki, Stanley Weber was born to parents, Jacques Weber and Christine. He belongs to a family of three children, with siblings named Kim and Tommy. Born as Frenchman, he holds French nationality and belongs to white ethnicity. Blessed with a tall height of 6 feet, he works extremely hard to shape his current ribbed physique.

by Anonymousreply 220November 30, 2017 8:36 PM

Looks like SW is also a very private guy.... Maybe he had fun with Sam😁😜

Six-foot guy with a ribbed physique is what most girls dream about, but this guy is more than handsome hunk as he is talented actor and theatre director. The French actor, Stanley Weber raced into the heartbeats of many with television series such as ‘Borgia’ and ‘Outlander.’ But despite the unbelievable amount of exposure he gets, Weber surprisingly keeps his personal information intact and never lets anything slip.

Career and Progression: The French acting powerhouse, Stanley Weber is not just a shooting star but the omnipresent moon. The graduate from the Conservatoire National supérieur d'art dramatique started his career from the Theatre performance with ‘Le Mal à dire’ in 2005, which was directed and written by Léon Masson.

After showing thrilling performance on the stage, he directed ‘Scarecrow,’ ‘Le Chevalier de la lune,’ and ‘Comment prendre 5 ans en l'espace de 2 h d'avion?’ in 2008, where he collaborated with Pierre Giafferi on two occasions.

Likewise, the director highlighted his career with television series ‘Borgia’ from 2011 to 2014. After numerous performances in theatre and television show, his dedication got more reward when he got cast as Comte St. Germain in the award winning series ‘Outlander.’ The show is not short of talents though, as they have Caitriona Balfe, Sam Heughan, Stephen Walters, Grant O’Rourke, Steven Cree, Sophie Skelton, and much more.

A Lost Battle to Find His Girlfriend! When the rumor of him dating his co-star Karen Gillan surfaced, media thought they had a real headline about Stanley’s personal life in 2013. But the rumors were quickly disposed to the garbage when the actor said that in an interview with Express.co.uk:

“I’d like to put it on record that I am single at the moment.” The French hunk is ruling the hearts of many girls, but after his public statement in 2013, he maintains a giant boundary. And it’s hard to draw any conclusive lines if he has someone special in life or is enjoying his bachelor life.

The ‘Outlander’ star is a travel freak and enjoys hiking to some of the beautiful places on the globe with his friends. His Instagram account gives his fans a quick recap of his journey to brain-calming places from mountains to desert. Go to his Instagram account, and you will see three things: traveling, traveling, and more traveling with his friends.

His social media accounts remain mum on his girlfriend. And the lack of ongoing dating affair would indeed invite the media to question his sexual orientation. However, as of today, he remains tight-lipped on the issue of whether or not he is a gay.

As of now, he is probably not married and focusing all his energy on his career. But if he decides to make a commitment and have a wife or partner, he would find it hard to select one in the mass of thousands of open admirer.

His Short Bio and Family: Stanley Weber was born in Paris, France on the 13th day of June in 1986 which makes his age 31. According to his wiki, Stanley Weber was born to parents, Jacques Weber and Christine. He belongs to a family of three children, with siblings named Kim and Tommy. Born as Frenchman, he holds French nationality and belongs to white ethnicity. Blessed with a tall height of 6 feet, he works extremely hard to shape his current ribbed physique.

by Anonymousreply 221November 30, 2017 9:22 PM

Well. r216 ff. We agree, that there is someone out there, who is in a relationship with Sam. And that is a man. May be it is none of the suggested here, but there is one. As Sam has stated, his private life is privat, he will probably never will give us a clue.

by Anonymousreply 222November 30, 2017 9:32 PM

The point is, Weber stopped at "private life private" and maintained his integrity. Heughan ended up looking like a colossal tool by trying to combine "private life private" with bearding, two PR agendas that don't go together.

by Anonymousreply 223November 30, 2017 10:47 PM

Good point!

by Anonymousreply 224November 30, 2017 11:12 PM

Two hot guys who like to climb and drink......

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by Anonymousreply 225December 1, 2017 1:25 AM

Stanley Weber and Andrew Gower

by Anonymousreply 226December 1, 2017 3:07 AM

Shat has had to weigh in on Sams Twitter today to help out with auctioning Sams signed necktie. They couldn’t unload it apparently,so Shatner is helping out. His Twitter is so personal.

by Anonymousreply 227December 1, 2017 4:41 AM

[quote]Stanley Weber and Andrew Gower

Are you a StAn stan?

by Anonymousreply 228December 1, 2017 7:29 AM

Sam's natural fruitiness ....;))

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by Anonymousreply 229December 1, 2017 11:29 PM

R143

[quote]"What?!! "I know everything Camuso" is saying he doesn't know something? Uh huh, this round of bearding is over. It will be interesting to see what happens next. The bearding has been so ridiculous, they'd be smart to just STOP. If Sam isn't going to come out, hopefully he'll at least put his foot down and be done with that fuckery."

by Anonymousreply 230December 2, 2017 2:46 AM

you know nothing I am convinced now. Purv reported that Fay Thomas lived with Lucas and they posted photos of their apartment. At first I didn't believe her because Luke is gay, right? But nope. It's all there - they did live together before they broke up and she has a new boyfriend. weird. Why would Luke live with Fay, his girlfriend, if he was really gay for Sam? Hmm.

Just as I always thought. Luke was a good friend. When Abbie (who also recently said she did date Sam) and Sam broke up - he took Luke with him to Japan instead of Abbie. No wonder he closed his social media - to get away from your ridiculous claims.

It aint Luke, boys. And if Sam is really gay, why would he take a heterosexual on his trip?

by Anonymousreply 231December 2, 2017 8:11 AM

R231 holy crap you people are just flat out flailing about now that your narrative is crumbling to pieces

by Anonymousreply 232December 2, 2017 8:53 AM

r231. Question for you. Why my dear, do you not just keep posting on Purvs tumblr? DL is obvious not the right platform for your opinion. And r232. Exactly.

by Anonymousreply 233December 2, 2017 9:00 AM

"Purv reported" LOL And yes, exactly right, R232

by Anonymousreply 234December 2, 2017 5:17 PM

I did read that on Purv's Tumblr, but I don't believe anything without confirmation. A quick check and a few dollars spent and there it is - yep. Luke and Fay did live together a few years ago. And Sam has never been registered as living with Luke. He has had several roommates, but never Luke. Actually his roommates seem to be others in the industry. No stars. And certainly not anyone near as good looking as Luke. Again... it is YOUR narrative that is dying. The narrative that Sam and Luke are lovers. Nope. The only PROOF is that he lived with his girlfriend Fay for a few years. Not Sam. Whereever did you even get the idea that Luke was gay? Just wishful dreaming?

This place is a cesspool of fake rumors.

Prove that Sam and Luke are lovers.

I'll get the popcorn ready while I wait.

And please, don't show that stupid photo again. The ones that's been cropped.

by Anonymousreply 235December 2, 2017 8:08 PM

r235. Darling, you're really on the wrong place here. We don not have to prove anything to you. And funny, you spent money, just to find out, what we got for free: That Sam was flatmate with guys? So, what is your conclusion, little stalker?

by Anonymousreply 236December 2, 2017 8:17 PM

I know you don't have to prove anything - which is nice, because you can't. You just say whatever crap fits your fantasies and we're supposed to believe it's true.

For years it's been stated here that Sam and Luke were lovers.

Of course I would spend a few dollars to know the truth. And it's not stalking when information is available on the web site for public disclosure.

The fact remains that for years people have said - no, Luke dated Fay, not Sam. And here is the PROOF.

They actually lived together during the years they dated.

What a shock.

No wonder Luke closed his social media because of people like you claiming he and Sam were lovers.

Luke has been a great friend. He defended Sam against the BS and then closed his social media to stop all the lies and rumors.

Now, if Sam is gay - who's his boyfriend. And don't say Stephen.

by Anonymousreply 237December 2, 2017 8:30 PM

Related: Interesting perspective on Hollywood homophobia; even when it comes to scumbags like sexual predators and anti-Semites, straight white privilege is alive and well...

[quote]Kevin Spacey’s career is probably finished while producer Brett Ratner’s might not be: both have been accused of multiple sexual assaults, but whereas Ratner allegedly preyed on young women, Spacey allegedly went after young men, and it is in no way a defence of Spacey to say that there has been a distinct air of homophobia around his hasty banishment. After all, just ask yourselves if Roman Polanski would still be getting lifetime achievement awards if he’d sexually assaulted a 13-year-old boy instead of a girl.

[quote]It takes a hell of a lot for a straight white man to destroy his own career. And to be honest, it somewhat undermines all the promises I’ve read about the new no-tolerance attitude towards assault, claiming that men have “learned their lesson”, when Gibson is there, grinning unapologetically from my local multiplex. When it comes to protecting its most prized assets, it’s still business as usual in Hollywood.

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by Anonymousreply 238December 2, 2017 8:54 PM

The desperate SHAMzie Troll is either Purv -who has just been posting almost identical comments about Luke in her tumblr- or one of her minions.

GAY Sam for her:

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by Anonymousreply 239December 2, 2017 9:43 PM

r239. My thoughts. They are on a mission today. On all of their tumblr.

by Anonymousreply 240December 2, 2017 9:52 PM

R240, They are nervous about their PR SHAMzie ship, lol

MM has been in her SM daily all the week and in American time and the Seahawks fans are already talking about her and Jimmy Graham...

by Anonymousreply 241December 2, 2017 10:14 PM

The thing is that DL doesn't make a huge definitive point about who Heughan is dating. There's speculation, sure, but we leave the tinhat shipping to the shamzies (Sam / MM) and the SamCait ladies. He can date or shag or love whomever he wants for all I care. We don't need to stalk anyone. We're not studying pixels on sm or searching addresses on paid databases to "prove" anything. FFS.

What I see is a PR campaign pushing a narrative about dating women, and it looks like hetero narratives we've seen many times before; combine that with his lack of serious relationships with women in his past and the careful way he talks about his dating life; plus rando comments from the UK theater scene saying "but he's gay, isn't he? he's been out for years" - I'd say we're looking at a Hetero Heughan campaign. Which I object to on principle, plus they do a piss-poor job of it, so we should all feel insulted that they think we're so gullible and stupid. LOL.

As for Luke - I truly have no idea about him or him and Sam, but I know plenty of gay guys who are flatmates with women. Especially in their younger years and with housing prices what they are in industry places like NYC, London, LA. So who cares who he has lived with, DL isn't a shipper blog though so this is an irrelevant rabbit hole.

by Anonymousreply 242December 2, 2017 10:55 PM

Exactly, R242.

More GAY Sam:

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by Anonymousreply 243December 2, 2017 11:55 PM

Forget the necktie raffle, Heughan badly needs Shatner to hook him up with a toupee...

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by Anonymousreply 244December 2, 2017 11:56 PM

[quote] hmmm....interesting that Camuso is now claiming he doesn't know if MM and Sam are still together since he has claimed to "know" about their status since the bearding fiasco began. I wonder if this statement is intended to "signal" the upcoming "breakup" narrative. Maybe this round of bearding is over.

I hope that Sam can be himself again, like R217 said.

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by Anonymousreply 245December 3, 2017 1:30 AM

Here's the famous CDAN blind item for the SHAMzie troll. It's about Sam being gay, his bf, the PR narrative, the beard.....

[quote]About once a month or so she is called to action and will show up somewhere with the actor. At some point, even Kristen Stewart gave up the shell game. It becomes so hard to juggle all your stories and pseudo relationships and everything else for the media and social media and interviews and red carpets that you just say f**k it and come out. This actor needs to do just that. I have written about this actor a couple of times in the past about his closet struggles, but he has taken this to a whole new level. Foreign born. Tall. Good looking. For the most part in his career he has struggled. That is until a few years ago when he got the lead in this pay cable series that shows no signs of ending for the foreseeable future. Suddenly his secret life actually mattered. I have written before about his people scrubbing his social media clean of all those weekend flings with guys. They think he needs to be a virile heterosexual to keep getting these types of roles. Last year around this time, his female co-star got tired of being called his girlfriend because they weren’t. It wasn’t even a bearding thing. His people just picked her and leaked story after story about how they were a couple. She forced our actor to do a joint interview and in that interview declare they were not a couple. Her boyfriend was getting really upset.

[quote]Meanwhile, our actor spent much of the spring and early summer traveling the world with his boyfriend but he is always referred to as a friend in photos. After this travel spree, the boyfriend was pushed out of the way because too many people were asking too many questions. The boyfriend was asked to scrub his social media which he did. Imagine just scrubbing your entire life because your boyfriend can’t admit who he is and wants you to play along.

[quote]So, you need a new beard. Who do you pick? Well, if you are the people of our actor, they found someone who needs the publicity to reignite her failed acting career. A former soap actress who thought she was way better than soaps who found out that was not the case. An actress who has a boyfriend. Whether she started dating that boyfriend while she was still married is up for debate. She had a lot of success in soaps. Not so much outside them. Her last best shot was some network show where she had a recurring role before the show was quickly canceled. With a boyfriend on board with the game, our actress started popping up on the actor’s social media. Simultaneously, the couple would get randomly photographed at events and random places. Who was taking these photos? Not fans. Nope. It was producers of the pay cable show and PR people and voila they would show up on message boards for the show. Most of the time she lives with her boyfriend in the US. About once a month or so though she is called to action and will show up somewhere with the actor. Oh, and hey, get “randomly” photographed. She did accompany him to a big award show but stayed at a hotel while he stayed at his home. She flew home the morning after the awards with a nice big payday in her bank account.

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by Anonymousreply 246December 3, 2017 2:19 AM

Loosing hair...isn't it a man thing. Makes him human...

by Anonymousreply 247December 3, 2017 2:21 AM

loosing hair? isn't that a guy thing?

by Anonymousreply 248December 3, 2017 2:23 AM

Loosing hair? Isn't that a guy thing?

by Anonymousreply 249December 3, 2017 2:25 AM

Losing, hair? Isn't that a guy, thing?

by Anonymousreply 250December 3, 2017 2:27 AM

WTF is up with the repeat posts?

by Anonymousreply 251December 3, 2017 2:30 AM

He relies on Shatner for everything else, why not hair?

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by Anonymousreply 252December 3, 2017 2:39 AM

R 246 Why bother printing that? Those "articles" are written by people who haunt Twitter/Datalounge/Tumblr and submit stories as if they were sourced. Everything in that story was taken from social media and it's all crap. Why bother? Do you think it's Real News? snort.

by Anonymousreply 253December 3, 2017 3:28 AM

R239

Wrong. I've told you before who Purv is. I've even posted her photo. Honey, I'm not her. Trust me. I'm not a horny, sex addict who swings. Thank God.

I don't care if he is gay.

And no, Luke was pretending to live with Fay. He isn't a big star. No one knew who he was until Datalounge "discovered" him. They dated. Its not a secret. I just never thought to verify that they lived together before. Shame. I should have done that years ago.

by Anonymousreply 254December 3, 2017 3:33 AM

R253

Go back to Purv tumblr, lol

Gay Sam for you.

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by Anonymousreply 255December 3, 2017 3:35 AM

r255. Since I saw this the first time, I did not need any more "proof".

by Anonymousreply 256December 3, 2017 5:27 AM

R231 screams desperation as the Shamzie ship sinks. Purv is a Shamuso minion.

Faye and Luke never lived together and it's unlikely that they ever dated. Because Luke called her 'love' in a post doesn't mean he's her boyfriend. Just because bat-shit crazy stalker says so doesn't make it true. People have also said that Sam and Faye have dated. No proof.

And don't believe the recent Abbie Comment. Those screen caps are photoshopped and a poor job at that. Abbie never said she was dating Sam at the time they were "together". She was harassed by his fans to acknowledge if she was his girlfriend and she never responded. Why would she reply to troll on her IG now. Then quickly delete it. Nope! Not buying it.

by Anonymousreply 257December 3, 2017 11:24 AM

Sam is Gay.

Sam had a boyfriend named Nick and they lived together in London.

by Anonymousreply 258December 3, 2017 11:33 AM

interesting - you've posted four times on this thread alone and never mentioned "Nick."

and no, you are wrong about Luke and Fay. They lived together. Sorry to break it to you. They have the same address listed as their home. They shared photos of the same home on social media. They list the same address on the voting rolls. No one said Sam and Fay dated. Fay was his photographer. She dated Luke, not Sam.

And get your facts straight. Abbie NEVER said she wasn't dating Sam.. She only said not to believe what Purv was saying about her. At the time Purv was reporting that Sam liked her feet. That she was leaving work to go stay with Sam in Glasgow. All Abbie EVER said was not to believe everything Purv was reporting. Which is pretty good advice especiallyl since Purv's main source was another teacher at Abbie's school.

You can claim those were bad photoshops of Abbie saying that everyone knows she dated Sam. Of course - it's always Photoshopping.

And if you honestly think Sam dated the barber Nick, I have a bridge in Arizona to sell you.

by Anonymousreply 259December 3, 2017 12:00 PM

The only time Sam seems to be concerned for his thinning hair is when he is in the U.S. photo op with MM. sporting the Billy M hair piece. He wears a bad wig for his day job so what does he care. Good for him. I am the proud mother of 3 bald headed boys and the daughter of a bald headed Dad.

by Anonymousreply 260December 3, 2017 1:25 PM

Where did Abiie supposedly make this comment? I cannot see it on her Instagram, just where someone suggested she change her avatar.

by Anonymousreply 261December 3, 2017 1:41 PM

r257. All this BS comments are done by MMs: Minions on a Mission. It is incredable, that we now have to talk about Abbies, Amys and other woman, who crossed Sams life times ago. What will come next?

by Anonymousreply 262December 3, 2017 2:31 PM

Voter rolls, old addresses, social media. FFS so much energy to stalk these people and keep them all straight (haha). But why?

It doesn't matter who Heughan has dated or is dating. Or who his friends dated ten years ago. Do you folks who obsess and monitor all this stuff keep a big board in your rooms with photos and string linking all the main characters? Purv with her "twenty thousand screencaps" must have an elaborate filing system by now.

The only thing I see is PR to make someone who's gay look hetero. There's really no other point to all the energy expended on it. It's the simple glaring truth in the midst of all the Abbies and Codys and Mackenzies (and no doubt you'll tell me I got those names wrong and Abbie's best friend's mother's cousin said something to Purv's source and and and and).

by Anonymousreply 263December 3, 2017 2:57 PM

Abbie made the statement on her IG when she was told that the p eople who wanted her to change were AVI were people who didn't believe she ever dated Sam. The avi was taken one weekend at Sam's apartment- in Glasgow - in his kitchen. That photo was originally how many people realized she really was dating him - otherwise why was she seen in photos in his apartment. She had never changed the avi - and then stated - oh well,, everyone knows I dated him. words to that effect. But - she quickly deleted it. Someone screencapped it tho and sent it around tumblr.

BTW - someone had mentioned how Abbies IG is just food, ,and exercise. It is. It didn't use to be. She deleted a ton of personal photos after she and Sam broke up.

by Anonymousreply 264December 3, 2017 3:40 PM

r264, girl, Abbie said herself she never dated Heughan and it's all lies.

by Anonymousreply 265December 3, 2017 3:47 PM

Cracks me up that Bat-shit Crazy Purv is our current troll. How fucking pathetic! I guess she gets more views here than on her own tumblr. The more she talks the more others can see what a psycho stalker she is.

by Anonymousreply 266December 3, 2017 4:28 PM

R263 couldn't agree with you more!!!

The desperation is palpable! It's almost to a frenzied since the latest bearding contract ended. It's glaringly obvious that all the optics and narratives will never hide the truth that Sam is gay. They will try to rewrite Sam's past but we all know the truth.

by Anonymousreply 267December 3, 2017 4:32 PM

News Flash: Heughan's real birth name is Gaylord Gay Gayerson. I had to shell out money to cyberstalk this intel, bitches!

Sam is gay, people. He's 37 and has no history of romantic relationships with women. Women are irrelevant to him, except as friends, fans, beards and contributors to his charity. Rather than 'who is he dating,' the question should be 'who is he fucking?' Same goes for the beards - they need fucking, too. Jennifer Allen knows this. She's gotta keep the bearding realistic enough to look like her clients are getting it regular, or it doesn't pass as a romantic relationship.

by Anonymousreply 268December 3, 2017 5:30 PM

Purv doesn't post here.

You are all crazy if you think that.

You know nothing about him or his needs or who he needs t o be fucking. Nothing.

Funny - there was that one time Sam was spotted at a movie theater in Glasgow, on a date, where there are no paps, no tabloids, and no one gives a fuck about who Sam is dating, Why would he be there in the late afternoon with a woman on a date if he only dates for PR?

by Anonymousreply 269December 3, 2017 6:56 PM

And where did YOU get all these exact information from?

by Anonymousreply 270December 3, 2017 7:52 PM

It's obvious that Purv or one of her minions is the desperate troll posting here. If she were so sure about Sam's sexuality, she would leave these threads alone but SHE. JUST. CAN'T.

[quote] girl, Abbie said herself she never dated Heughan and it's all lies.

Yes, there're a lot of screencaps of this long conversation where Abbie made it clear that she was NOT dating Sam and all was made up stuff. Stuff made up by Purv, of all the people..... ;)

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by Anonymousreply 271December 3, 2017 8:54 PM

Gay Sam for the Trollcunt

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by Anonymousreply 272December 3, 2017 9:03 PM

r269. Why should he call the paps, when he goes to see a movie with a female friend? So, when I am having dinner with a gay friend and the guy he is married with, I am dating one of them? And that makes them straight? Sorry, little girl, I think you have a really unbelievable stupid, silly and small view of the world around you.

by Anonymousreply 273December 3, 2017 9:06 PM

Sam over the years..... Yup! Still Gay

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by Anonymousreply 274December 3, 2017 9:06 PM

Actually, I'm not just here blowing hot air out my ass, whether you believe that or not.

I try to only say things that are provable.

I don't know if Sam is truly gay or straight.

I have said this many times before - the ONLY source that I think MIGHT be real is the one on the Mom forum, where the transexual posted that she had watched Outlander with a friend who's roomate was once Sam's boyfriend. But I do have to say, that I think it's strange that such an obscure comment would be found. Still - to me - this is most legitimate source.

I don't believe all the - I knew he was gay before - stories. I think that a lot of those could be tainted because he played two homosexual roles on stage and in film.

But, the Momsie comment to me is the one that gets my attention.

And no, I don't think Luke and Sam are lovers. At all. Why Luke? Why not Matt too? lol.

Maybe he wants to single. Maybe he wants to just have a tryst here and there but remain free to work and work out. That's really his life anyway.

I just will never post something because I pushing an agenda. I really am just curious a bout Sam. I admire the hell out of him. I h ate reading things about him here that are just made up crap.

by Anonymousreply 275December 3, 2017 9:08 PM

R273

no, you misunderstood my point .

everyone says that Sam's dates are PR only. Bearding.

He's been seen around Glasgow with girls. There's a photograph with him in the background, waiting for the movie to start and he's with a girl. If his dates are all bearding, only for PR - why would he be on date where no one would see him at all?

Actually, I don't think he goes out much socially except for when he is off on long breaks.

by Anonymousreply 276December 3, 2017 9:12 PM

R271

god, give it up with the Abbie! I was there - I read every single comment, every post. She was NOT saying she didn't date Sam. We all knew she WAS dating him.

She was afraid of the SOURCE. A teacher she worked with was calling Purv daily - and telling her all these things about Abbie and Sam. Some true, some not.

And it scared her to death. She didn't know who this person was. She was afraid it was someone she trusted.

Do you not understand this?? Imagine someone you work with is telling everying about you to an internet gossipmonger?

Abbie just said - don't believe what she says. At the time Purv was saying that Abbie had left school to be with Sam. That they had 24 hours to be together and have sex. that he was obsessed with her feet and that's why she posted photos of her feet because he got off on them.

Purv is sex maniac. She swings. She has proudly admitted this. Sex colours everything she writes about. i"m sure Abbie was horrified to read what Purv was writing about her.

If they weren't dating, why would she with him and his immediate family at his birthday party? It's so sillly. I don't know if he is gay or not, but he def. dates women. And Abby was before he was bearding.

The pieces don't fit. Nothing makes sense That's why it's so interesting. And that's why people want to know the "real" story. It will be great when the final chapter is written, though neither side willl ever believe the other is the real story.

by Anonymousreply 277December 3, 2017 9:20 PM

r276. BECAUSE GAYS HAVE FEMALE FRIENDS! A lot of, and this does not make it a DATE! May someone else with more patience and better english skills will explain it to you.

by Anonymousreply 278December 3, 2017 9:21 PM

For the troll at R276/R277

Because -although you can't believe it- gay men do also have female friends, they hang out with them, they celebrate birthdays together and even they share an apartment with them.

It's ridiculous to have to repeat the same thing over and over again to this deluded troll!

by Anonymousreply 279December 3, 2017 9:23 PM

r277. As stated a couple of posts above. For sure he has been seen with women. Call it dating or whatever you like. I've spend months of my life being on Cruising Ships with a gay friend, who was working there as an entertainer. We even shared the same cabin.

Sam is just not fucking them, because he is gay. Is this so difficult to understand?

by Anonymousreply 280December 3, 2017 9:34 PM

This is a believable source. People who met Sam before Outlander and went with him to RSC.

Our darling, Lady Goodman, whose cousin met Sam at the RCS, posted this interesting info. Her cousin confirms that Sam is gay:

[quote]"I started watching Outlander last year and commented on Facebook how much I enjoyed it. My cousin private messaged me and was like "I went to RCS with Heughan,remember?" , I didn't because my cousin isn't in the acting/directing game anymore and is now working as a "civilian", so I'd completely forgotten he went to the Conservatoire as its now called. I commented that I thought he was lovely and he'd have to intro me when I was next in Scotland (I was saying this jokingly,I'm married.) and he replied "Sorry to burst your bubble, gorgeous as you are, I don't think you've got what he's looking for if you know what I mean..."

[quote]"And he was like "He's gay. I don't know why this is a thing. I'm sure he's photographed with women, I've seen him around home with women. He is gay. He just is. Didnt know he was saying otherwise. Weird to try and hide it now. Bit of a risk this late in the game."

by Anonymousreply 281December 3, 2017 9:35 PM

Another belieable source:

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by Anonymousreply 282December 3, 2017 9:42 PM

*believable

by Anonymousreply 283December 3, 2017 9:43 PM

In 2013, when Sam was cast to play Jamie Fraser, the very first question asked by the British posters in the Outlander boards was: "Why they have chosen a gay actor to play the King of Men?"

Google it.

In 2013, these posters already knew about Sam being gay!

by Anonymousreply 284December 3, 2017 9:49 PM

In OL news: This week’s ep was positively vomit-inducing with the pig’s blood bath and slave branding. A season nadir!

by Anonymousreply 285December 3, 2017 10:20 PM

R285,

The best part of last night's episode was Sam and David Berry's eye fuck fest.....;))

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by Anonymousreply 286December 3, 2017 11:52 PM

.......

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by Anonymousreply 287December 3, 2017 11:54 PM

Apologies. I did not think it was posting. Sorry I used up so much reply space.

by Anonymousreply 288December 4, 2017 12:38 AM

Berry confirms that the OL writers were dicking around with the Helwater script AT THE LAST MINUTE and inserted that absurdly implausible bit where Jamie just offers himself to LJG like a big 'ol party favor and Heughan was taken by surprise...

[quote]How was it doing the scene where Jamie offers himself up to John Grey outside of Helwater?

[quote]That was a tricky scene for both of us, for a couple reasons. It was tweaked by the writers up until the last minute. So, it was just difficult thing. And I think for Sam — I don’t want to speak on his behalf, but it came as a bit of a surprise to him that his character does this. So I think it came as a surprise to the audience. We discussed the kind of reaction to have there. It’s just such a fine line to tread. You don’t want to undermine or humiliate Jamie at that point. But it’s also something that Lord John is. It’s his most deepest desire. So it’s an awkward situation, and that awkwardness kind of helped.

What a clusterfuck. On top of that, Berry's good but he doesn't deliver the heat. He just can't convince us he's gay and hot for Jamie. He's like the Tom Hanks/Philadelphia well-meaning, sympathetic straight actor who, not for wont of trying, just can't make himself look believable as a gay man.

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by Anonymousreply 289December 4, 2017 6:31 AM

... and no, I'm not saying a straight actor can't play gay because some have quite convincingly AND delivered the heat (most notably, a young Rupert Graves and James Wilby in Maurice).

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by Anonymousreply 290December 4, 2017 6:45 AM

In the books Jamie does offer himself to John Grey. So It’s not like the writers made that up out of thin air. However In the book it happens differently.

by Anonymousreply 291December 4, 2017 7:14 AM

Interesting repost from Sam on his twitter (he could chose any other). And a few ago he names the question for Jamie "to wig or not to wig". Maybe he's reading DL?!

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by Anonymousreply 292December 4, 2017 7:20 PM

LOL!

Is PopSugar trying to tell us something?

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by Anonymousreply 293December 4, 2017 11:35 PM

r231 My oldest son dated several girls throughout high school, including an on/off girlfriend of 3 years. He still is, and has always been, gay. Gay men have been living with, and marrying, women for millenia for multiple reasons, including (mostly platonic?) love. Doesn't make them any less gay. Maybe Luke is bi? Maybe Fay used Luke to further her career? Maybe they both needed to appear to be in a heterosexual relationship? Photos of them in "their" apartment isn't proof of anyone's sexual orientation. LMAO.

by Anonymousreply 294December 5, 2017 2:33 AM

r235 Seriously, you spent money to check on that? Wow. OK, embarrassingly, not too long after Sam was announced as Jamie Fraser, I did some internet searching on free sites because there was very little about him on the internet at that time and I was grasping at straws. If you looked, you'd see that Sam lived with a man named Fergus off and on for about a decade. They usually lived with several others, so maybe they were all roommates in the business. I could draw all kinds of conclusions from that, but they'd probably all be wrong.

I used to work for state government and had access to all kinds of "official" fee-driven search engines (e.g. Lexis Nexis). Even those sites that charge a fee are often wrong, because the records are compiled from multiple databases, many of which often contain incorrect data. For instance, if I look myself up on LexisNexis today (like I did years ago, lol), I bet it still shows me as having lived with my husband's ex-wife (why, I'd never!!!). We've both been on public records with him as owners of real estate, which is likely how that mistake happened. But if someone wanted to read into that, they could draw all kinds of conclusions. TL;dr - you paid "a few dollars" for nothing. You still have no proof, either way.

by Anonymousreply 295December 5, 2017 2:44 AM

r242 Yes! My gay son lived with his lesbian best friend for 2 years because Chicago is hella expensive and they were both poor, lol. There are probably 1000s of pictures of them together on social media, and people who didn't know them could jump to all kinds of conclusions, but they've never dated or had sex (er, I'm guessing about that last part), and they're both in very happy same-sex relationships.

His younger brother has lived with his best friend, a guy, for 3 years. They both have long-time girlfriends and I've never asked them, but I'm pretty sure they've never had sex with each other either, lol. Why people think they know who other people love or have sex with based on random crap they find on the internet is beyond me, especially when some of those (famous) people are actively working to keep people guessing.

by Anonymousreply 296December 5, 2017 2:52 AM

r259 For the love of God, don't tell me Sam has a foot fetish. I can get on board with him topping or bottoming, but being into gnarly toes is a hard fantasy limit for me, especially if said toes are hairy. Yuck, ewww, gross.

by Anonymousreply 297December 5, 2017 2:56 AM

R296 Because dear, it was known that Fay and Luke were lovers. Living together was just a piece of proof, something that Datalounge doesn't really care about.

In fact, Datalounge does exactly what you accuse me of doing. Just because Luke and Sam took a trip together - they assumed they were lovers. Never assume.

by Anonymousreply 298December 5, 2017 5:40 AM

R295 Seriously. get a life. Luke and Faye were known to be lovers. It wasn't a secret.

Just saying that yes - there were photos of their shared apartment on their social media isn't enough.

There is proof that they actually did live together via their voting rolls.

by Anonymousreply 299December 5, 2017 5:43 AM

R290 I'm interested to see how Armey Hammer pulls it off. Did you read where he said his balls were hanging out of his shorts and they had to digitally remove them from the screen. That has to be joke. But, I'd love to see it.

by Anonymousreply 300December 5, 2017 5:46 AM

Yeah, me too. CMBYN thread (now at Part 13)...

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by Anonymousreply 301December 5, 2017 6:22 AM

I truly whole heartedly believe Army Hammer is gay and has always been gay. He’s been waiting to do a movie like this. He’s a perfect example of s gay man marrying a woman and having children with her. He’s not the first and for sure won’t be the last.

by Anonymousreply 302December 5, 2017 4:52 PM

Interesting article for all those who have doubted the veracity of Crazy Days, Crazy Nights and the blind items it has posted about Heughan and bearding. An article in the Daily Beast cites all the times Enty Lawyer has been spot on about the crap going on in Hollywood.

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by Anonymousreply 303December 5, 2017 5:45 PM

R303

Enty has been certainly spot on about Sam being gay and the bearding. He has posted a lot of blind items about this subject in the CDAN site

Reposting it for the shamzie/purvy troll who hates DL but just can't leave these theads alone...... ;))

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by Anonymousreply 304December 5, 2017 6:54 PM

[quote]"..........not too long after Sam was announced as Jamie Fraser, I did some internet searching on free sites because there was very little about him on the internet at that time and I was grasping at straws. If you looked, you'd see that Sam lived with a man named Fergus off and on for about a decade"

Interesting info, R295.

by Anonymousreply 305December 5, 2017 6:57 PM

[quote]I truly whole heartedly believe Army Hammer is gay and has always been gay. He’s been waiting to do a movie like this.

I agree, R302. Unfortunately, he picked the wrong time to portray a chicken hawk. Given the current climate of faux repentance and ever-present homophobia in Hollywood, Luca’s “masterpiece” will get buried during awards season.

by Anonymousreply 306December 5, 2017 7:16 PM

R306 I agree.

by Anonymousreply 307December 5, 2017 8:21 PM

So. There is a new Chicago Tribune article about Sam Heughan travelling. He names his favourite places. One of the shamzie Queens now grabs the ball to tell the "Sam is straight" universe, that he has visited the most of this places with Mackenzie Mauzy, because she has also posted pictures from this destinations on her IG.

This is the way PR works. And how viewers and readers are used and manipulated by PR. And how easy it is, because seldom anybody asks about the real why and where.

This is the thing, that drives me crazy. All the posts from the Shamzie Queen the last weeks here, who is monitoring every avaiable source, close to stalking, she is not able to do the same research and interpret it .

by Anonymousreply 308December 5, 2017 9:10 PM

[quote]I think it’s super contrived that that article basically lists EVERY Shamzie receipt location in existence. Like can he (meaning Sam) make this shit stink any worse? It’s super shitty any angle you look at it. Like he is literally fucking with fans like a fucktard.

R308 At least, in the article Sam also says that his Best Holiday Trip was Thailand, not any of the bearding trips like Switzerland, Amsterdam, NC....

Thailand. Without a fake girlfriend by his side and surrounded by half naked guys....;)

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by Anonymousreply 309December 5, 2017 9:36 PM

Sam:"I once spent a week sleeping outdoors with gauchos – cowboys in the Andes. It was remote and magnificent."

Brokeback Pampa....xd

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by Anonymousreply 310December 5, 2017 9:48 PM

LMAO!!! R310 so glad someone looked that up! When I read that I died. Because we all know what kind of cowboy camp that was.

by Anonymousreply 311December 5, 2017 10:39 PM

[quote]I think it’s super contrived that that article basically lists EVERY Shamzie receipt location in existence. Like can he (meaning Sam) make this shit stink any worse? It’s super shitty any angle you look at it. Like he is literally fucking with fans like a fucktard.

That article has 'Jennifer Allen PR damage control' written all over it.

Sam and the fake gf haven't been in the same continent since three months ago.

by Anonymousreply 312December 5, 2017 11:02 PM

r312. Yes. Trying to debunk the story and Shamzies tumblr. Montreal: Probably any US citizen with a passport who is interested in travelling to another country, has visited Montreal. New York:well guess, how outstanding, that she was in NYC,...exotic place. Zermatt: I am still sure, MM was not in Zermatt with Sam after NYE. She recycled old pictures from her trip with BM the year before, and yes, thanks for inventing Photoshop. Amsterdam. Yes, looks like she was there. Staying inside a restaurant or bar whilst Sam is having fun outside with this friends. By the way, one of the very rare pics on her IG taken by herself. And with a questionable quality. St. Lucia: Haven't we heard, that Sam was there with another beard, girlfriend? Amy, Abbie? What an exotic destination for healthy american soap stars. Capetown: She was probably there as a little bonus on her bearding contract. Is!e of Skye: Well she did have a couple of days off, when called for action during scottish Baftas

So what is left, vwhen smoke and mirrors are gone In my opinion nothing.

by Anonymousreply 313December 5, 2017 11:35 PM

The gays want this t-shirt.....

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by Anonymousreply 314December 6, 2017 1:11 AM

R313 what a load of shit. Photoshopping. Sure. She just happened to have a Scotland flag scarf the year before when she was with Billy skiing. And please, don't say photoshop. If it is photoshop - there has to be the original photo hainging around somewhere. Let's see it. AND yes, Sam did take Abbie to the Caribbean. BUT, if you knew anything - you would know that they know someone who owns a hotel there and that's where they stayed. For two weeks. Yes, she was in South Africa and Paris and Scotland - was it three times now? And they were together in NC,, and LA a few times, and London and NYC and Montreal. That's a lot of photoshopping and fake BS and someone spent a shitload of money on tickets for someone who if she was just a beard - a few well placed appearances in LA and NYC would have sufficed.

What else do you want to make up? Let's see all the original photos that the photoshopped ones were created from - then we'll talk.

by Anonymousreply 315December 6, 2017 1:18 AM

R310 that was during the Batman Live World Tour. The photos are on his IG. There were both sexes there. Only Datalounge would make a camping trip seem like a lost weekend at Studio 54.

by Anonymousreply 316December 6, 2017 1:21 AM

Of COURSE Army Hammer is gay! Of Course!!!!!

It's incredible that anyone ever gets born in this world. HOW??? The world is filled with gay men only. I hate to inform you guys, but girls like good looking guys too. Not EVERY good looking guy is gay. Army is married with children. But of course, she's a beard and he's gay.

by Anonymousreply 317December 6, 2017 1:25 AM

r298 Well "dear," how do you know they were lovers? How was it known? Are there pictures? Videos? Sworn affidavits? Do tell!

by Anonymousreply 318December 6, 2017 1:28 AM

R303 CDAN is such a load of crap. Funny how every tabloid has been talking about Matt Lauer for years ad years. And apparently all of Hollywood knew about Weinstein.

CDAN takes any crap that people feed him. Most of his "blinds" are crap rewritten from the gossip blogs.

His stories about Sam are taken from here, word for word. Either a commenter sends it in or he pulls it off the forum. No wonder he is posting about Sam - he's got 24 pages now.

by Anonymousreply 319December 6, 2017 1:30 AM

r299 Wait, wait, wait ... you *paid* for information on some random celebrity and you tell *me* to get a life?

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by Anonymousreply 320December 6, 2017 1:31 AM

R315/R316/R317/R318/R319.....= Purvy Troll ..... She says she hates DL but she keeps monitoring these threads and for years, she has been posting the same crap about the fake gfs in tumblr.

Honey, CDAN has posted the info about Sam before anything was posted in DL. The day CDAN posted this BI about Sam being gay, his boyfriend, the bearding... the beard MM closed his IG.

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by Anonymousreply 321December 6, 2017 1:38 AM

[quote]someone spent a shitload of money on tickets for someone who if she was just a beard - a few well placed appearances in LA and NYC would have sufficed.

This troll doesn't have a clue about how the beardings fabricated by Jennifer Allen- Sam's publicist- , work. Or maybe, she really knows.....;).

Her deranged posts in this board prove that DL, CDAN....are hitting a nerve ;)

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by Anonymousreply 322December 6, 2017 1:44 AM

[quote] Wait, wait, wait ... you *paid* for information on some random celebrity and you tell *me* to get a life?

Don't you know that R299/R298/R315/R316/R317/R318/R319...... aka Purvy TrolL, lives under Sam's -and Luke and Abbie and MM's- beds????

She 'knows everything'...... .lmao

by Anonymousreply 323December 6, 2017 1:54 AM

Sorry, R318, you are not the Purvy Troll.

Wish DL had an edite button.

by Anonymousreply 324December 6, 2017 1:58 AM

[quote]The desperation is palpable! It's almost to a frenzied since the latest bearding contract ended. It's glaringly obvious that all the optics and narratives will never hide the truth that Sam is gay. They will try to rewrite Sam's past but we all know the truth.

[quote]This is the thing, that drives me crazy. All the posts from the Shamzie Queen the last weeks here, who is monitoring every avaiable source, close to stalking, she is not able to do the same research and interpret it .

[quote]The only thing I see is PR to make someone who's gay look hetero. There's really no other point to all the energy expended on it. It's the simple glaring truth in the midst of all the Abbies and Codys and Mackenzies (and no doubt you'll tell me I got those names wrong and Abbie's best friend's mother's cousin said something to Purv's source and and and and).

EXACTLY.

GAY Sam for the troll:

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by Anonymousreply 325December 6, 2017 2:15 AM

[quote]The only thing I see is PR to make someone who's gay look hetero. There's really no other point to all the energy expended on it.

This^^^ He should have stuck with "private life private" but when it comes to homophobic Hollywood, I guess gay rumors are unacceptable. Too bad the beard they paired him with is a shallow, tone deaf, pampered, product of Tinseltown that nobody buys as Heughan's girlfriend. But y'know, it's hard to find a decent beard. People of quality aren't lining up for the job.

by Anonymousreply 326December 6, 2017 3:01 AM

r326. One of my new all time favourite.

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by Anonymousreply 327December 6, 2017 10:41 AM

Is it just me or does it look like he's saying "purv"?

by Anonymousreply 328December 6, 2017 11:40 AM

It's just you.

by Anonymousreply 329December 6, 2017 11:58 AM

The funniest thing about that recent travel article is that there is no mention of the first place he flew when he traveled to the US, but of course, he couldn't mention the world's gay mecca. That was the giveaway for me that the article was PR damage control.

From Interview Magazine in 2015...

[quote]My first visit was when I took two years out after school. I didn’t know what I wanted to do, so I was working a lot and I traveled—I flew to San Francisco, and traveled down the West Coast by bus, down to New Orleans, down to Mexico, and back up the East Coast. New York was the end of my journey.

Later, he mentions the Arctic Circle, where he talks about filming a Heart of Lightness with Laura Donnelly when he first heard he got the part for Outlander...

[quote]It was because we were in the Arctic Circle, doing this strange little movie. The production base was this old school and we all ate there, drank there, rehearsed there, hung out there. It was a real core group of us. It was really odd to be in the middle of these fjords, in this dramatic landscape in the middle of nowhere

Interesting omissions from the recent Tribune puff piece.

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by Anonymousreply 330December 6, 2017 12:22 PM

Which of these "five favorite cities" is not like the others?

[quote]In no order, Cape Town, New York, Santa Monica, Montreal and Amsterdam

Wanna bet he said San Francisco, originally?

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by Anonymousreply 331December 6, 2017 12:46 PM

Another interesting quote from the Interview Magazine article...

[quote]Is there a lot of pressure to capitalize on your current success?

[quote]No, I don’t think so. My agent will probably say something different, my publicist will certainly say the opposite.

[quote]So what is left, vwhen smoke and mirrors are gone

What's left is a 37-year old guy who has no relationship history with women whose publicist "will certainly say the opposite."

by Anonymousreply 332December 6, 2017 2:31 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 333December 6, 2017 3:21 PM

r333. I always learn something new on this threads. Never thought about this!

by Anonymousreply 334December 6, 2017 9:02 PM

Once again, Sam has been snubbed by the Critics Choice Awards. On the other hand, Cait has been nominated.

Maybe, Sam's PR team should spend less time and energy promoting those ridiculous fauxmances and innuendos to closet him and more time promoting his job as an actor.

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by Anonymousreply 335December 6, 2017 9:43 PM

R333 I personally cannae go a bulging calf. Even on a ripped buff as f?!# lad skinny calf is far better IMHO 😘

by Anonymousreply 336December 6, 2017 10:23 PM

anyhoo, enough of gay Sam, what about gay Jamie 😉

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by Anonymousreply 337December 6, 2017 10:30 PM

Heughan and his coach in post-workout repose... (wait for it)

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by Anonymousreply 338December 7, 2017 3:45 PM

Feeling the burn...

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by Anonymousreply 339December 7, 2017 4:01 PM

r338 and r339. Great find. I am on my tablet and laptop account tells me, I am not allowed to reply. So someone be so kind posting the link from Sams actual twitter where Duncan talks about "Cock munching".

by Anonymousreply 340December 7, 2017 4:06 PM

Gotta love drunk tweeters...

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by Anonymousreply 341December 7, 2017 4:38 PM

r341. Thanks for posting the link. You made my day.

by Anonymousreply 342December 7, 2017 5:22 PM

I think I have been brainwashed. Jamie looks very gay to me now,not just Sam. Does he need hetero acting lessons to continue in this role where he is suppose to madly in love with his wife or what?

by Anonymousreply 343December 7, 2017 6:05 PM

r343. Everything OK with you. It is called gaydar, and obvoiusly it is now well calibrated and the updates are installed properly.

by Anonymousreply 344December 7, 2017 6:14 PM

[quote]Does he need hetero acting lessons to continue in this role where he is suppose to madly in love with his wife or what?

The operative word is "acting." It's not about playing gay or straight; it's about playing a character. That said, he sucks, this season. Is it that he's unable to bring gravitas and motivation to "older Jamie?" Is that he's constantly butting heads with the writers and finally said 'fuck it' because it's a guaranteed paycheck for the foreseeable future? Or is it that he never cared that much about honing his craft and was more focused on shiny things like fame and $$$? Discuss.

by Anonymousreply 345December 7, 2017 7:23 PM

Sam is better actor than Caitriona.

I blame the writers and Ron D. Moore.

by Anonymousreply 346December 7, 2017 7:28 PM

I think closeting is fucking with his head and affecting the quality of his work.

by Anonymousreply 347December 7, 2017 7:28 PM

I get the sense that Sam is really over the OL gig. Yes, he wants OL to last because it is a good-paying gig that is a springboard to other things, but the enthusiasm has worn off. The level of care and enthusiasm that made the first 3/4 of season one so much better than everthing else that has followed is gone. Sam seems more focused on other ventures now -- like his own brand of whisky that he revealed he is developing in an interview that came out yesterday. He probably sees MPC and brand development opportunities like Barbour, whisky, etc. (along with film roles, if he can land them) as his future.

by Anonymousreply 348December 7, 2017 7:36 PM

As a book reader and after listening to explanations and excuses on the Outlander podcasts, I have come to conclusion that they did not have the funds to do what they would of liked to do. The fact is, one could have a daily soap and not be able to tell that story. Sam looks like he is modeling this season for a photo op. Although he does wounded victim quite well ,he does not carry off the highland warrior anymore,if ever. Jamie is very macho,Sam not so much. Maybe Sam should go back to the theater where he is more comfortable. IMO too many writers ,no consistency did not help.

by Anonymousreply 349December 7, 2017 7:40 PM

r349 if you're so unhappy with his performances why don't you just stop watching. Why continuously punish yourself? thankfully there are many that don't agree with you.

by Anonymousreply 350December 7, 2017 7:57 PM

Where Sam is going? ;))

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by Anonymousreply 351December 7, 2017 8:05 PM

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by Anonymousreply 352December 7, 2017 8:09 PM

Agree, R345. A good actor of any sexual orientation is able to play gay or straight. Many gay actors have played straight characters very well (whether their being gay was known or not).

I also agree with you that Sam hasn't been great this season. And he actually was pretty good in the first half of S1. He's had some good moments this season, with his little son, one on one with David Berry playing Lord John, and a few others. But otherwise his performance has been uneven. I don't if that's his being distracted by other things in his life and phoning it in. I wouldn't be surprised if the closeting is taking a toll; his own and show PR sell him endlessly and cloyingly as a hetero hunk (the EW interviews are especially cringeworthy), and that has to be tiring. But for sure he has a lot of other ventures that may be distracting him as well. All the marketing side gigs take time.

I would also put some significant blame on the writing, both the source material which is not great, especially in the second half of the book when it goes completely off the rails, and also the show adaptation which has failed to provide a consistent character or even a real story arc for the character of Jamie throughout the second half of the season - again, that is source material, but it's their job to fix that, no? The first episodes had a kind of pathos, at least. The back half of the season has felt episodic and campy, and Sam's acting has mainly been him making those weird eye gestures he does or yelling "Claire" or declaiming his love for Claire. It's all very melodramatic, and the extent to which he said he fought the writers on even more melodrama I would give him points for. That said, Caitriona at least seems to be throwing herself into the part, however crazy the plot, and Sam just isn't. Maybe he thinks the show is silly at this point, and he wouldn't be wrong, but if you've signed up for the job, I think Caitriona's kind of commitment as an actor is more admirable. Just go for it and chew the scenery and make us believe. Like Lotte Verbeek, haha. The plot gets a little less crazy in the next season, so maybe he and the writers will settle down?

I'm not R349, but to answer the question "why watch?" - well, I liked Season 1. I tend to stick with things. Lots of shows have bad seasons and then recover. There are fun elements to this season even so. Sam and Cait are both gorgeous. It's a momentary distraction from Trump. I'm addicted to the gossip here. Oh, hell, I don't know. I'll watch the last episode of S3. We'll see for the next season. LOL.

by Anonymousreply 353December 7, 2017 9:29 PM

Will & Grace.

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by Anonymousreply 354December 7, 2017 10:57 PM

r345. I absolutly agree with the part about acting. And I think you really hit the nail about playing older Jamie. There are some nice directed and snapshot photos of him out, where he really looks manly. And they are well done.

But in the most of the pictures, when he is Sam, he is gay and flamboyant. With all his muscles, he is still gay Sam.

And there the problem starts. He is not belivable as an aged, war proofed warrior who weht thru all this rape and lost. Sam as Jamie is still carrying his beauty and adorable teenage face.

So, to come to the topic of this thread. And not to make this an OL thread.

Do you think, we will get another beard?

by Anonymousreply 355December 7, 2017 11:34 PM

r349. Sam Heughan is probably earning roundabout € 800.000 a season. May be now 1.000.000. Then there are expensives for his agents, who got him this job. 10 to 15 %. Everything else he is spending reduces his tax. So income tax in the UK is probably roundabout 30 %. So just to make it simple. 500.000 will be there netto. His car is sponsored by Audi, his Glasgow appartment is rented an furnitured by STARZ. And there is Barbour contract. RC

He is in a very well nice Situation.

by Anonymousreply 356December 8, 2017 12:09 AM

HIs net worth is 5 million. I would say he’s doing just fine lol

by Anonymousreply 357December 8, 2017 1:07 AM

Maybe they should do what they are doing with The Crown get an older actor to replace Sam if there is a season five .Of course Sam could step up and embrace Jamie again,but in case he goes for the big money doing modeling and endorsements,possibly movies, Gerard Butler might be worth a look.Sam could leave this weird fandom behind and find true happiness and his own private truth.

by Anonymousreply 358December 8, 2017 1:13 AM

[quote]get an older actor to replace Sam if there is a season five

I vote for Liam Neeson. Outlander copied "Rob Roy," anyway; he might as well get some credit for it.

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by Anonymousreply 359December 8, 2017 2:39 AM

R358 It will NEVER happen. If for some reason Sam leaves, that's it.

You obviously have no idea how beloved Sam is. He was born to play this role, just as Sean Connery was born to play Bond. The fans would revolt if they ever fired Sam and if he left - they would leave too. There would be no audience.

I'm always shocked how people come on this thread and know nothing about Sam but call themselves a fan.

He's not burned out on playing the role because of the beard. Give me a break. It's not his fault that the series has changed. NOthing can recapture the first season, the first love, the sexual tension, etc. and honestly, the books get less and less exciting as they go on. Ian and Brianna become big stars. Lots of Indians coming up. And American soldiers. And George Washington.

If Sam or Cait leave - that's it. Ron Moore has two feet out the door as it is. I doubt he will be back at all after 4, if he is even here for 4. All series change and evolve, but no Sam..no Outlander.

Nothing can recapture....insert Romeo and Juliet.

by Anonymousreply 360December 8, 2017 8:58 AM

[quote] He was born to play this role, just as Sean Connery was born to play Bond.

Sean Connery? LOL More like just as Jake Gyllenhaal was born to play Dastan in Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time.

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by Anonymousreply 361December 8, 2017 4:07 PM

I hear Gyllenhaal really bulked up for the role.

by Anonymousreply 362December 8, 2017 5:26 PM

Sam and Paddy at the gym yesterday:

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by Anonymousreply 363December 8, 2017 9:57 PM

There's a growing number of people reporting threads like this and the Armie Hammer one. On and on you go, taking up too much data, just to post the same Gay Sam captions. The way you quote from other message boards full of tinhat fraus and make these places out to be valuable sources is laughable.

Your days here are numbered.

by Anonymousreply 364December 9, 2017 2:20 AM

R364

[quote] taking up too much data

Lol! “I’m complaining to the site owners because you use their site too much!”

by Anonymousreply 365December 9, 2017 3:11 AM

R364= Homophobic SHAMzie/Larrie/Tinhat Troll

[quote]The desperation is palpable! It's almost to a frenzied since the latest bearding contract ended. It's glaringly obvious that all the optics and narratives will never hide the truth that Sam is gay. They will try to rewrite Sam's past but we all know the truth.

You're right. That's why the SHAMzies are trolling these threads.

GAY Sam for them:

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by Anonymousreply 366December 9, 2017 3:38 AM

Bulge report...

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by Anonymousreply 367December 9, 2017 3:13 PM

On all fours @ :06...

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by Anonymousreply 368December 9, 2017 3:18 PM

where do these videos come from? I can't imagine not being able to do anything in my life without being filmed

by Anonymousreply 369December 9, 2017 3:34 PM

Hill climbing with TV host, McNeish...

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by Anonymousreply 370December 9, 2017 7:38 PM

Naked Sam in season 3.

Still waiting for a frontal......

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by Anonymousreply 371December 9, 2017 11:20 PM

Is Paul Camuso implying here that William Shatner can get a GG nomination for Sam????

Just like he 'got' him that role in the spy movie? LOL

Sam needs to get ride of this 'great' PR team, beard included.

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by Anonymousreply 372December 10, 2017 4:24 AM

How exactly did this Paul Camuso weirdo and Shatner end up glomming on to Sam anyway? I find them both so creepy.

by Anonymousreply 373December 10, 2017 1:12 PM

This picture shows a truly happy Sam who is giving the camera a genuinely happy Sam smile. How anyone can see this then go back to every posed shot of fake, sullen, disinterested Sam with Mauzy and say he's in love or seriously dating/into her is deluded. He seems to dislike her immensely. Probably herself as a person who is a total loser to agree to the pathetic charade and most definitely the entire bearding clusterfuck

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by Anonymousreply 374December 10, 2017 5:28 PM

Heughan poses with his product placement while McNeish gives details in his twitter replies...

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by Anonymousreply 375December 10, 2017 5:48 PM

MM hasn't been around in a while so why are we still talking about her? can't we just move on..................

by Anonymousreply 376December 10, 2017 7:04 PM

r375. We all knew this. This is not a hidden secret, that his Twitter is to sell him and his Name.

by Anonymousreply 377December 10, 2017 8:27 PM

If MM doesn't show up with Sam over the holidays will that truly be the end to this ridiculous charade. If Sam just becomes the loner he says he is and is not pictured with others does this end this thread or will the ""Gay"" Sam pics be enough to carry on.

by Anonymousreply 378December 10, 2017 8:34 PM

Sam replied to Graham’s Instagram post saying he may need to look after Graham’s Jaguar while Graham goes home for the holidays. Does this mean a Visut to LA over the holidays, and the bearding continues?

by Anonymousreply 379December 10, 2017 10:38 PM

R377 I couldn't disagree more. Sam has been tweeting for years before he was well known. Now that he is well known - he does use it to his advantage, why wouldn't he. But, before, he tweeted about sports with his friends, and politics and just bs. He didn't get on twitter when he was ultra famous and get a verified account just to push his brand. It has been an organic development.

by Anonymousreply 380December 10, 2017 10:57 PM

R374 I think MM and Sam are over. It's been since September they were seen together. I know he's been busy with the new season. But - I disagree about there being no photos of Sam looking happy with MM. I've been many photos of them together where they look very happy and he has a huge grin on his face. It just drives me crazy that there will be a photo from an event - like the Scot Baftas - and instead of realizing that it is one second in time. All I heard was how miserable Sam w as at her brother's wedding, then I see photos where he had a huge smile and seemed relaxed and very happy. Regardless, I do think this is the end of them as either lovers or as a beading relationship. whatever you believe. unless they are together for xmas, it's over.

by Anonymousreply 381December 10, 2017 11:14 PM

Even some SHAMzie trolls think the bearding is over....;))

by Anonymousreply 382December 10, 2017 11:31 PM

There's no way you can end these threads, R382 will not be able to survive. Her homophobic GAY SAM posts are her oxygen. She has to type the word 'bearding' at least once a day in order carry on a meaningful existence.

by Anonymousreply 383December 10, 2017 11:36 PM

That would be you, R383, since you keep trollling these threads.

And of course, we're going to keep talking about this GAY actor in this GAY board.

GAY Sam for you:

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by Anonymousreply 384December 10, 2017 11:54 PM

Not sure Sam has looked much sexier than he did in this scene today. Gorgeous.

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by Anonymousreply 385December 11, 2017 12:48 AM

or here

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by Anonymousreply 386December 11, 2017 12:50 AM

Gorgeous.

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by Anonymousreply 387December 11, 2017 12:52 AM

sorry. got so excited i posted the same one twice.

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by Anonymousreply 388December 11, 2017 12:55 AM

They forgot to age him in those sexy scenes though.I see a strong resemblance to Opie from Mayberry

by Anonymousreply 389December 11, 2017 2:26 AM

Contrary to what others have said, I think Sam does play hetero Jamie very well. His attraction to Claire is believable. This is why I think the bearding was relaxed while the show was airing - the moment the new season premiered she vanished. Unfortunately, now that the show is over for a while, I think they will be resorting to bearding again to sell him as hetero, especially with the Spy movie coming out. Without weekly doses of Jamie, all we’re left with is gay Sam...

by Anonymousreply 390December 11, 2017 2:36 AM

R390

It has been a ridiculous fauxmance. The beard is jobless, she is always travelling and yet, she and Sam have spent three months apart. Real couples don't act like this.

Only deluded Outlander fraus can buy this charade.

by Anonymousreply 391December 11, 2017 3:24 AM

R390 I hope Sam doesn't resort to more bearding, especially for the movie, when there is an out actor starring in it.

by Anonymousreply 392December 11, 2017 3:50 AM

R391 I couldn’t agree more! Any shred of doubt I had about his sexuality was gone with that charade - it completely backfired IMO because it was so unbelievable.

R392 One would hope - private Sam is definitely the way to go until he’s ready to come out - fingers crossed!

by Anonymousreply 393December 11, 2017 4:36 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 394December 11, 2017 5:53 AM

there is that remote possibility that Sam has seen MM without anyone knowing. I see that someone said on her latest IG pic that they are now engaged. If that's true won't everybody be surprised lol

by Anonymousreply 395December 11, 2017 12:23 PM

R395 LOL, I think your gaydar is broken.

by Anonymousreply 396December 11, 2017 5:21 PM

r396 my gaydar has never been broken and where in that statement did I say I thought he was or wasn't gay?

by Anonymousreply 397December 11, 2017 6:13 PM

[quote]Could it be that Heughan's cock isn't prodigious enough for the "King of Men?"

They’ve CGI’d the hell out of his ass. Maybe this is a job for the special effects team.

by Anonymousreply 398December 11, 2017 7:12 PM

R395

Didn't you also say at R376, that we should stop talking about MM since she's no longer around?

And if you read the comments posted at her IG, you will also find references to her currently dating a Seahawk and that Sam and MM have NEVER been a real couple.

by Anonymousreply 399December 11, 2017 9:19 PM

R372 [quote]"Is Paul Camuso implying here that William Shatner can get a GG nomination for Sam???? Just like he 'got' him that role in the spy movie? LOL Sam needs to get ride of this 'great' PR team, beard included."

[quote]"How exactly did this Paul Camuso weirdo and Shatner end up glomming on to Sam anyway? I find them both so creepy."

Looks like this PR charade hasn't got a GG nomination for Sam....

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by Anonymousreply 400December 11, 2017 10:24 PM

R397 You didn't say he was or wasn't gay. You just *implied* he wasn't gay by speculating the possibility he was seeing MM without anyone knowing. The only way one would speculate this is if they thought he wasn't gay and in a relationship with her not for PR.

Also, no one on Mackenzie's IG comments knows anything about her private life. There's just as much BS there as the Sam/Cait shippers tumblrs.

by Anonymousreply 401December 11, 2017 10:29 PM

In other news, I listened to some of Luke Neal and Al Weaver's podcast today. Luke was going on and on about how gorgeous James Franco is in real life lol.

by Anonymousreply 402December 11, 2017 10:34 PM

Check Sam & Caitriona twitter, trouble in paradise ??????

by Anonymousreply 403December 11, 2017 11:36 PM

It sounds like Sam is pissed....

Sam called Cait out on Twitter and contradicted her story and made her look really bad. It seems that there’s some major shit going down BTS.....

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by Anonymousreply 404December 11, 2017 11:45 PM

R404 Sam does sound a bit pissed but I highly doubt it's at Cait. They're best friends and while I'm sure they fight, no way would he take it public like that. More likely somebody wanted Cait to appear alone because of her GG nod or maybe it really was an innocent mix up. In any case, I think the absolute least likely scenario by FAR is him throwing her under a very public bus.

by Anonymousreply 405December 11, 2017 11:53 PM

r399 I did say we should stop but all that did was make everyone talk about her so i did too

r401 I didn't imply anything. you just read into it what you wanted to read. I wasn't speculating anything. I was making a factual statement

by Anonymousreply 406December 11, 2017 11:57 PM

[quote]Check Sam & Caitriona twitter, trouble in paradise ??????

Here are the tweets.

And it seems that Sam has signed off from SM wishing 'Happy Holidays to everybody'....

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by Anonymousreply 407December 12, 2017 12:28 AM

If Sam wants to win acting awards, he needs to 1) stop the bearding side show 2) be his glorious self 3) focus on his craft rather than seek fame and fortune. I’m not a huge fan of Balfe’s work, but she was the bright spot in a rather lackluster season. Here’s to hoping there isn’t a Season 5 so that they can all move on from the OL circus...

by Anonymousreply 408December 12, 2017 1:56 AM

Great post, R408.

So only 5 days ago, Sam was really excited to be in this talk show with Cait but today, someone has decided that she should go alone. Sam's reply to Cait's 'lie' implies that he's mad.

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by Anonymousreply 409December 12, 2017 3:51 AM

Well, he obviously was seen at a restaurant at 5am this morning at Glasgow airport. So he could've been at the show, if he was allowed to. Curious what comes next.

by Anonymousreply 410December 12, 2017 11:23 AM

[quote]In other news, I listened to some of Luke Neal and Al Weaver's podcast today. Luke was going on and on about how gorgeous James Franco is in real life lol.

Very interesting....;) Thanks for the info, R402.

[quote]He actually looks younger than in previous seasons. LOL

Younger......and gayer xdd

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by Anonymousreply 411December 12, 2017 6:22 PM

There’s an Outlander thread, bitches.

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by Anonymousreply 412December 12, 2017 6:43 PM

Can we expect more PR fuckery in the coming weeks?

The shamzie fraus are excited!

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by Anonymousreply 413December 12, 2017 10:24 PM

R410 Does this man never want to just chill at home for a bit in his off time? His schedule is exhausting!

by Anonymousreply 414December 13, 2017 6:03 AM

why do people post here and insinuate that he was obviously at the airport but no photos. That his schedule is exhausting but provide nothing to back it up. why bother posting if you aren't going to share anything or is it just to make yourself look like you know more than the rest?

by Anonymousreply 415December 13, 2017 11:36 AM

R415 I hate that too. In my case, though, I’m just going off of what is posted here: he finished work for the holidays and was apparently at the airport early the next morning. Nothing more.

by Anonymousreply 416December 13, 2017 3:50 PM

Sam at a Halloween party....

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by Anonymousreply 417December 13, 2017 7:13 PM

Yesterday, there was an early preview of Sam's movie "The Spy Who Dumped Me" in LA:

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by Anonymousreply 418December 13, 2017 7:39 PM

Please report back if you saw the free screening of The Spy Who Humped Me.

by Anonymousreply 419December 13, 2017 10:14 PM

MARY!

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by Anonymousreply 420December 14, 2017 6:19 PM

Sam is in London, with other 'buggers'..........xdd

IG story from 4 hours ago:

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by Anonymousreply 421December 15, 2017 6:41 PM

The word 'bugger' reminds me of Sam's movie "A Very British Sex Scandal".....

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by Anonymousreply 422December 15, 2017 7:25 PM

I don't understand shippers at all. What is it they get out of it? Why would anyone have a dream about someone being with someone else?

by Anonymousreply 423December 15, 2017 8:13 PM

Why would anyone read book after book of Gabaldon's leaky-pen drivel? Same audience.

by Anonymousreply 424December 15, 2017 9:11 PM

not true. I've NEVER dreamed of someone being with someone else. I read the books because after the first season I wanted to know what happened. I read them all in six weeks, twice. I do know if it weren't for the show though I never would have read those books.

I only found OL by accident because I thought it was something else. But it intrigued me enough and I became interested.

by Anonymousreply 425December 15, 2017 9:31 PM

[quote] I read them all in six weeks, twice.

Have you seen somebody about this?

by Anonymousreply 426December 15, 2017 11:10 PM

R421

The SHAMzies are having a meltdown.

And are grasping at straws.....xd

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by Anonymousreply 427December 15, 2017 11:49 PM

Damn, so the trolls still came back after Datalounge was down?

by Anonymousreply 428December 15, 2017 11:54 PM

Related: Hollywood's running out of excuses for keeping queer characters out of the movies...

[quote]Lucasfilm wants the movies to do well in China, where there’s a lot of box-office dollars to rake in, and that’s an unfriendly place for queer people.” It’s true that Chinese censors are notoriously strict, and that the nation as a whole is not particularly L.G.B.T. friendly. But in 2015, China accounted for just six percent of The Force Awakens’ global gross. Had the film never opened in China, it still would have earned $2 billion—a total surpassed only by Avatar and Titanic. And Avatar, for the record, earned its $2.7-billion gross despite being banned in China soon after its release; leaders reportedly feared the film’s alien uprising might instigate a popular revolt.

[quote]In recent years, the Chinese government has also blocked the release of Deadpool, due to nudity; Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest, for depicting ghosts; and World War Z, because lead Brad Pitt once starred in Seven Years in Tibet. Yet some corners of Hollywood still deploy the threat of foreign censorship to justify constant, consistent exclusion of gay themes, even though there are various other areas in which the film industry isn’t afraid of risking foreign censorship.

[quote]“If L.G.B.T. characters are being kept out of product in order to appease repressive foreign governments,” says Harris, “I think it’s completely legitimate for people to go to these studios and these filmmakers and say, ‘What are your values? What are you and are you not willing to trade away?’”

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by Anonymousreply 429December 16, 2017 6:10 AM

Sam is in London:

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by Anonymousreply 430December 16, 2017 5:42 PM

[quote]Sam is in London

Boob grab with men.....;)

by Anonymousreply 431December 16, 2017 5:56 PM

I admit to being a shipper. I ship Sam Heughan and Henry Cavill hard!

by Anonymousreply 432December 16, 2017 6:43 PM

Who would like one of these for Christmas?

"I'll Have a Scotch on the rocks". I guess that should really read "a Scot". LOL.

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by Anonymousreply 433December 16, 2017 6:49 PM

Boob grabs don't count. He does that with everyone, male & female lol

by Anonymousreply 434December 16, 2017 6:59 PM

Not true. Go and read the comments, R434 ;))

I hope that Sam is in London with Luke. Meanwhile, the (ex) beard is staying at the other side of the world.

by Anonymousreply 435December 16, 2017 7:19 PM

I wish you'd stop talking about her. It's like tempting the Gods. I don't want to think about her since she isn't around but everyone keeps bringing her up. Why?

by Anonymousreply 436December 16, 2017 8:56 PM

Tempting the Gods? Seriously? Your brain must be addled from reading and re-reading those trashy Babbledon books. Chill the fuck out.

by Anonymousreply 437December 16, 2017 11:38 PM

Babbledon, I would say Babbledoom as death and disaster are alway at play!

by Anonymousreply 438December 17, 2017 12:33 AM

Sorry R436, I wish we could totally ignore the trashy (ex) beard.

Sam's new like has been made to counteract the gayness from the last two days???

The comments pointing out the PR game are being removed from MM's IG.....

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by Anonymousreply 439December 17, 2017 1:34 AM

This Mauzy woman seems to be incredibly unlikable.Her last post was about the tragic death of a family member,and her next instgram post is herself happily smirking while on a swing!Even if Sam fans didn't find her beard status reprehensible, she seems like an asshole.I guess the bearding continues.

by Anonymousreply 440December 17, 2017 6:11 AM

Note to self: Never go on a swing without your film crew and product placement.

by Anonymousreply 441December 17, 2017 4:43 PM

The "liking" is just another PR move done by his handlers. I am convinced, that his PR team has fully access to his official SM accounts on TW, IG and FB. Which does not mean, he is not posting himself there. But, it is easy to see, when he posts or his PR Team does.

When he does "private" posts on TW, he almost counteracts with the comments. He seldom, maybe never does it, when it is retweeded stuff, especially OL related. His commentry in the most time is limited to personal banter, MPC and Barbour.

By the way, just a side mark. Besides Caitriona, all his "private" twitter is mostly with men. There is no, or seldomly, banter with his other female cast members.

by Anonymousreply 442December 17, 2017 8:56 PM

Gay Sam:

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by Anonymousreply 443December 17, 2017 9:31 PM

r443. He is really a cute beauty. I am sure, he loved his long hair even it is thinning out.

by Anonymousreply 444December 17, 2017 9:45 PM

You don’t need PR to sell your true self.

by Anonymousreply 445December 17, 2017 10:18 PM

One more proof SHAMzie is a farce.

You don't need PR to sell a real relationship.

by Anonymousreply 446December 18, 2017 1:19 AM

But Sam's 'PR team' - William Shatner, Purv Troll, shamzies fraus.....-is working hard

What an embarrassment.......lol

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by Anonymousreply 447December 18, 2017 3:28 AM

Shatner's a piece of work. This excerpt from the book "Inside Star Trek: The Real Story," by original series producer, Bob Justman, and Desilu exec, Herb Solow, suggests that Shatner stole an expensive toupee from the wardrobe department and lied to his producer's face when confronted about it...

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by Anonymousreply 448December 18, 2017 5:59 AM

[quote]"Is Paul Camuso implying here that William Shatner can get a GG nomination for Sam???? Just like he 'got' him that role in the spy movie? LOL.... Sam needs to get ride of this 'great' PR team, beard included."

[quote]"Looks like the PR charade couldn't get a GG nomination for Sam".

by Anonymousreply 449December 18, 2017 5:35 PM

Is this weird Camuso guy running Shats twitter?Or is Shat so hungry for any kind of attention that he fights on Twitter with a few women about a practically unknown former soap star? Why doesn't he just go out on the street and start arguing with passersby like a crazy person? What is his or this Camuso guys skin in this obscure game?

by Anonymousreply 450December 18, 2017 5:40 PM

R450, I believe Camutso is running Shatner's Twitter account. The speed with which he responds to tweets and the amount of time he in on Twitter just doesn't seem to jive with the way octogenarians usually spend their day.

by Anonymousreply 451December 18, 2017 5:58 PM

R451 LOL,good answer!

by Anonymousreply 452December 18, 2017 6:03 PM

Plus, by the time you're 86, are you really going to be that passionate about defending the dating life of a 37-year-old actor and his girlfriend? With all the other shit going on in the world? Sounds more like a star-struck, love-obsessed, don't-have-much-going-on-in-my-life loser (a.ka. Camuso) is Shatner's Tweet master.

by Anonymousreply 453December 18, 2017 6:20 PM

Shamzie queen, PurvScilla, disses the fantards but her whole existence revolves around them, with her 20,000 screencaps. She's just another obsessed psycho. LOL

[quote]p-redux

[quote]Extreme Shippers will have to come to terms that they DID WASTE so many YEARS obsessing over a non-existent couple

[quote]Sick fucks the lot of them. How badly does someone’s life have to suck that they not only obsess this much over Sam and Cait being together, but they also take the time out of their day to create troll accounts to harass a perfect stranger who has never done anything to them.

[quote]Love Shat! He’s my spirit animal.

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by Anonymousreply 454December 18, 2017 6:41 PM

Meanwhile, the other Shamzie queen disses Purv's "sources"...

[quote]contemplatingoutlander

[quote]I have a pretty good idea who Purv’s first degree sources are (as far as I know she only has a couple of them). I could be wrong, but if they are who I think they are they are in the “intermediate” category of friendship with Sam and/ or MacKenzie. In other words, they are not the sort of friends that Sam or MacKenzie would confide in regarding anything of significance regarding their relationship.

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by Anonymousreply 455December 18, 2017 6:54 PM

It seems that MM is looking for another like from Sam but he has been several times in SM today since she posted, and he has ignored her.

The shamzies are fuming.....

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by Anonymousreply 456December 18, 2017 8:09 PM

So this creepy p- dux and her group spend all their time on tumbler shit talking other fans who they accuse of shit talking the beard,and her spirit animal is her mental twin Camuso! Wait a minute ,am I really posting this-now whose fucking crazy? It's just so irritating,let's not quote these assholes here anymore,I can't take it.A thread that is supposed to be supporting. gay men shouldn't be this off track;excuse me for even posting this.

by Anonymousreply 457December 18, 2017 10:37 PM

Don’t they realize he was liking the jacket and not anything else? If it was a real thing, there are a bunch of pictures they both would like from each other. Shots where either of them look good at various times and it doesn’t happen. She didn’t even like the link to the Harper’s Bazaar article that mentioned her! That’s oddly aloof even for someone who doesn’t seem to foster social media connections at all.

by Anonymousreply 458December 19, 2017 12:20 AM

r447 and ff. "If this is what your friends look like, I do not want to know, who you call an enemy". And r458, I think that there is a kind of algorithm used by his PR handlers with just generates likes, when something related to him and bis brands shows up. Yes, I know, ehe wore Barbour before and did not get a like. Once, and once again. Most of their PR as a "couple" based on innuendos on her IG and what people wanted to see

Just a small hint: They were never caught leaving a hotel together, seen in a restaurant, even from Paparazzi. He is a tall guy, him hanging around with the bottle blond girl must have attracted strangers to take a picture or asks wtf is that couple and posting it on SM. There was never a fan pic, like: I caught Sam Heughan on the street cuddling with McKenzie Mauzy. Never ever. Why not? Because it never happened!

by Anonymousreply 459December 19, 2017 12:37 AM

R459, Only when they called the paps in NY ;)

[quote]and ff. "If this is what your friends look like, I do not want to know, who you call an enemy"

Paul Camuso's post from tonight is beyond CREEEEEEEEEPY. And he's claiming that 'Sam is his friend'.......

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by Anonymousreply 460December 19, 2017 12:48 AM

Love letter from Cree...

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by Anonymousreply 461December 19, 2017 12:56 AM

I always loved Crees allusions and humor.

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by Anonymousreply 462December 19, 2017 5:08 PM

Does anyone know what happened to Duncan Lacroix TW account? Can't find him anymore. And is there a reason he cut off his SM?

by Anonymousreply 463December 19, 2017 9:57 PM

Too bad. Didn’t he recently drunken tweet “Cock munching?” We’ll miss him.

by Anonymousreply 464December 19, 2017 10:12 PM

r464. May be I am wrong. But remember when Luke cut all his official SM? Coincidence?

by Anonymousreply 465December 19, 2017 10:28 PM

LOL!

Sam's publicist and Just Jared are working hard.....Sam tops JustJared.com‘s list of the most popular actors for the first time.

And of course, they had to mention the beard....

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by Anonymousreply 466December 19, 2017 11:03 PM

With all the "articles" that JJ posts about Sam, he sure as hell better be number 1.

by Anonymousreply 467December 19, 2017 11:06 PM

r467. $$$$.

by Anonymousreply 468December 19, 2017 11:31 PM

In DL we know since years ago, that Jared Eng runs a site -Just Jared- that is basically a page with content that is basically spoonfed to him by publicists.

[quote]"His site definitely helps perpetuate showmances."

[quote]"He is definitely spoon fed by publicists. His 'headlines' and inane copy are proof of that.

[quote]"according to this profile in The Times, "press agents shove clients his way." So yeah, it sounds like they purchase the images for him."

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by Anonymousreply 469December 19, 2017 11:38 PM

Heughan hasn’t won any fan awards in a long time so they had to buy him one.

by Anonymousreply 470December 19, 2017 11:42 PM

If he came out, I'm sure GLAAD would give him an award.

by Anonymousreply 471December 19, 2017 11:43 PM

Shatner has had such a negative impact on Sam's most devoted fans that used to vote for him in those contests that he probably will never win one again. He is to be blame for letting the captain and his minion to degrade his fans. Never a good look to offend fans, it says more about Sam than it does them.

by Anonymousreply 472December 20, 2017 12:17 AM

R470

Jared is gay too but sadly, he helps publicists to promote Hollywood fauxmances in his site JJ.

Jared and Sam are friends.

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by Anonymousreply 473December 20, 2017 12:42 AM

R456

'Someone' finally has liked the beard's pic. This has been posted in the beard's IG, lol....

From: Jennifer Allen

To: Sam Heughan

CC: Jamie, French

Sam, when are you going to like tour 'girlfriend' new IG post? It's been two days. Get on it. JA.

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by Anonymousreply 474December 20, 2017 5:43 PM

Only shamzie fraus believe this farce.......

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by Anonymousreply 475December 20, 2017 6:21 PM

That picture of MM reminds me of Norma Desmond from Sunset Boulevard. "I am ready for my close up ,Mr. DeVille." Google it.

by Anonymousreply 476December 20, 2017 7:12 PM

Good analogy, R476, but let's get it right...

[quote]Tn Sunset Boulevard (1950), an aging silent film queen, Norma Desmond (played by Gloria Swanson), refuses to accept that her stardom has ended. She hires a young screenwriter to help set up her movie comeback. She undergoes rigorous beauty treatments in preparation for her imagined comeback. Tiring of the ruse, the writer bluntly informs her that the public has forgotten her, there will be no comeback, and her fan letters are fake. As he walks away, Norma shoots him three times and he falls into the pool. Her mansion is subsequently filled with policemen and reporters. Now having completely lost touch with reality, she believes the newsreel cameras are there to film Salome. Max pretends to set up a scene for her and calls "Action!" As the cameras roll, Norma dramatically descends her grand staircase. She pauses and makes an impromptu speech...

[quote]And I promise you I'll never desert you again because after Salome we'll make another picture and another picture. You see, this is my life! It always will be! There's nothing else! Just us, the cameras, and those wonderful people out there in the dark!… All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up.

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by Anonymousreply 477December 20, 2017 7:59 PM

r474 and r475. Oh Sam, how much more second embarassment will your PR produce in the next days. Hope you use this smoke and mirrors spread by JA to spend a nice couple of days off with a nice guy besides you.

by Anonymousreply 478December 20, 2017 8:41 PM

R477 Here everyone knows Norma, Gloria and Sunset the film and the musical.

by Anonymousreply 479December 20, 2017 8:52 PM

San has ignored the beard online for months (while S3 was airing, coincidentally) and after all the PR push of her, he ignored her birthday, the death of a family member, Thanksgiving, she was a no show at the BAFTAS........... and they haven’t seen each other for months. Nice "boyfriend", lol

All this PR crap is stupid, embarrassing and unbelievable at this point and makes Sam looks so bad and disingenuous.

by Anonymousreply 480December 20, 2017 9:07 PM

whether she is a beard or not she is still a friend. I doubt very much he ignored her thru all those things. He just didn't make it public for you.

by Anonymousreply 481December 20, 2017 9:41 PM

Come on, does anyone really think they're friends? He looks like he's in pain whenever they're pictured together. Is that how you look when hanging out with your friends?

by Anonymousreply 482December 20, 2017 9:45 PM

they have spent time together. he isn't going to just ignore her like he doesn't know her Especially if he is still liking some of her photos. you really think he would do or say nothing after she posted about losing a family member? what kind of person do you think he is?

people just think that everything he does is known to all the stalkers. guess what it isn't.

by Anonymousreply 483December 20, 2017 9:49 PM

[quote] They have spent time together

No, they haven't, R483.

R482/R483 is a shamzie wannabe who also write weird comments like this one:

[quote]I wish you'd stop talking about her. It's like tempting the Gods. I don't want to think about her since she isn't around but everyone keeps bringing her up. Why?

by Anonymousreply 484December 20, 2017 9:56 PM

a shamzie wannabe would claim he looks like he's in pain whenever he's with the beard? lolll yeah ok whatever

by Anonymousreply 485December 20, 2017 9:59 PM

[quote]whether she is a beard or not she is still a friend

What kind of friend would post herself in a fatsuit knowing you run a fitness charity?

by Anonymousreply 486December 20, 2017 10:13 PM

r474. Me thinks, the volunteer at JA office who does the vacation replacement didn't get the note that MMs contract has expired. And is not very firm with Sams IG account handling.

by Anonymousreply 487December 20, 2017 10:29 PM

Sam liking MM's post was a PR move.

Now, it's time to do some damage control and calm down the samcait shippers. Cait 's friends are liking samcait accounts and Cait has just posted this tweet when she calls Sam 'hon'.....

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by Anonymousreply 488December 20, 2017 10:40 PM

Interesting that there are TWO Just Jared articles about Sam being the most popular actor. In one of them, MM is NOT mentioned.

And Sam has retweeted the article in which MM is NOT mentioned........ ;))

by Anonymousreply 489December 21, 2017 12:07 AM

I see the loser is back

by Anonymousreply 490December 21, 2017 2:47 AM

So tired of the beard-story. I found some "behind the scenes" about promoting S3, really nice to check out your gaydar.

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by Anonymousreply 491December 21, 2017 8:19 AM

whoever put that together in r491 did a great job

by Anonymousreply 492December 21, 2017 12:17 PM

r491. If that is not enough. Calibrate your gaydar at 0:54, Sam jumping in the water.

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by Anonymousreply 493December 21, 2017 1:46 PM

R493, my gaydar went off the charts when I saw this moment.....

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by Anonymousreply 494December 21, 2017 9:35 PM

r494. He really can't hide his gayness, when not directed or being in an official function. He surely can act believable masculine and straight. But he cant deny his gayness, his moves, his facial and body expression, when he is not in an character or in a public function.

by Anonymousreply 495December 21, 2017 10:01 PM

Is this pic new?

Sam in good company.....

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by Anonymousreply 496December 22, 2017 12:07 AM

I demand a rom-com with Sam,hilarious Cree and Duncan"cockmunch" LaCroix.I would go to see that.

by Anonymousreply 497December 22, 2017 12:31 AM

What is Sam doing at a hotel room in London with Steven Cree???

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by Anonymousreply 498December 22, 2017 3:48 AM

R498 I can imagine several things

by Anonymousreply 499December 22, 2017 3:51 AM

Writing and rehearsing for that rom-com I want to see

by Anonymousreply 500December 22, 2017 4:08 AM

R489 You’re right! That says A LOT in my opinion - fingers crossed the beard’s gone for good!

by Anonymousreply 501December 22, 2017 4:25 AM

Thanks, R496. Here's the original tweet with more pics from that bar...

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by Anonymousreply 502December 22, 2017 11:16 AM

More great finds from the Emulsion era...

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by Anonymousreply 503December 22, 2017 11:18 AM

The Bearding continues.

by Anonymousreply 504December 22, 2017 5:18 PM

r504 because?

by Anonymousreply 505December 22, 2017 6:26 PM

Sam -or someone from his PR team- has waited TWO DAYS to like MM's tree post.

How many takes to get this picture? At least, this year she is wearing pants.

This is so contrived and disingenuous. And the ass licking comments from the SHAMzie fraus are really nauseating.........

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by Anonymousreply 506December 22, 2017 7:03 PM

[quote]Sam has ignored the beard online for months (while S3 was airing, coincidentally) and after all the PR push of her, he ignored her birthday, the death of a family member, Thanksgiving, she was a no show at the BAFTAS........... and they haven’t seen each other for MONTHS. Nice "boyfriend", lol

by Anonymousreply 507December 22, 2017 7:20 PM

[quote]fingers crossed the beard’s gone for good

Fingers crossed? Uh, we’re not tumblr fantards trying to decide this guy’s fate. We’re here to observe and call it as we see it while remaining unattached to outcomes.

by Anonymousreply 508December 22, 2017 9:05 PM

The Bearding continues. MM is heading for London.

by Anonymousreply 509December 23, 2017 12:46 AM

Says who, R509?

by Anonymousreply 510December 23, 2017 1:13 AM

Probably, it's a troll.

One of the SHAMzie queens is lying to her minions and saying that bearding relationships and the closet don't exist in 2017, lol

[quote]"This “conspiracy” story might have made sense back in the mid-20th century Hollywood studio days but not in this day and age. Certainly not with B list actors like Sam and Cait."

Tell that to other closet cases like Tom Hiddleston, Henry Cavill, Hugh Jackman, Leo DiCaprio........According to JJ, Sam is now more popular than any of them ;)

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by Anonymousreply 511December 23, 2017 2:38 AM

[R510] You'll see!

by Anonymousreply 512December 23, 2017 3:38 AM

[quote]"This “conspiracy” story might have made sense back in the mid-20th century Hollywood studio days but not in this day and age.

Does this mean Sir Ian McKellan is lying when he says in an interview earlier this year that homophobia and closeting are still "alive and kicking?"

[quote]The Lord Of The Rings star, who came out at the age of 49, told the Daily Telegraph: “There is still so much fear and prejudice and negativity in this world. When Disney was brave enough to feature two seconds of men kissing in Beauty And The Beast, some countries banned the film – the argument being that if you show young people two men kissing, they will be so attracted to the idea that they will be turned from red-blooded heterosexuals into gay boys in that instant.

[quote]And I think it’s good that we should hear these objections and know that homophobia is alive and kicking.” The 78-year-old, who co-founded the lobbying group Stonewall, said his career “took off” after revealing his sexuality. He said of other actors not coming out of the closet: “It’s the same reason no Premier League footballer is out yet, because they’re worried about their fans’ reaction.

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by Anonymousreply 513December 23, 2017 9:40 AM

Was Colton Haynes lying in an interview earlier this year, saying that he was forced to beard and closet?

[quote]Colton Haynes talked about being forced into the closet by the Hollywood studio system in an interview with Andy Cohen on Cohen’s ‘Radio Andy’ show on Sirius XM. He also described being forced to go on fake dates with young female stars to put up a front.

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by Anonymousreply 514December 23, 2017 9:42 AM

Was this guy lying about being Ellen Degeneres beard?

[quote]“My manager asked me to accompany her to events. She was scared people would not watch the show, her sitcom ‘Ellen,’ because she was gay,” Schaech said.

The Shamzie queen is talking out of her ass, as usual.

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by Anonymousreply 515December 23, 2017 9:46 AM

And Luke Evans was openly gay -like Sam- while he was a theatre actor in UK but he was forced to go into the closet when he started to be successful with The Hobbit and other movies.

His PR people got Luke a 'girlfriend', they were photographed together and they almost got 'engaged'. Now, Luke is an openly gay man again.

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by Anonymousreply 516December 23, 2017 6:35 PM

Today, Sam was at the Edinburgh vs Glasgow Warriors match at Murrayfield in Glasgow.

The rugby player Sam knows plays for Glasgow

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by Anonymousreply 517December 23, 2017 10:22 PM
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by Anonymousreply 518December 23, 2017 11:14 PM

For the SHAMzies ;)

Glamour Magazine pushing the HiddleSwift fauxmance:

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by Anonymousreply 519December 24, 2017 12:38 AM

Post test-screening update on The Spy Who Pumped 'n Dumped Me...

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by Anonymousreply 520December 24, 2017 12:22 PM

[quote]For Spy, the new date of Aug. 3 pushes the release of the comedy back a full month from its original July 6 debut. The film will compete against Disney's untitled Christopher Robin family film, as well as against more adult fare like Shane Black's The Predator.

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by Anonymousreply 521December 24, 2017 12:53 PM

Sam with his brother and his nephew:

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by Anonymousreply 522December 24, 2017 4:51 PM

Sam's such a great guncle

by Anonymousreply 523December 24, 2017 4:53 PM

The shamzies are obsessed about likes in SM but they keep 'forgetting' to mention these likes.

It seems that MM really LIKES Seahawk player Jimmy Graham......;))

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by Anonymousreply 524December 24, 2017 5:02 PM

What I really appreciate the last weeks here: Posters beging kind and respectful. Merry christmas to all the intelligent and educated men and girls here!

by Anonymousreply 525December 25, 2017 1:39 AM

Same to you, R525.

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by Anonymousreply 526December 25, 2017 2:19 AM

Happy holidays to all the good people here :)

by Anonymousreply 527December 25, 2017 2:50 PM

[quote]The shamzies are obsessed about likes in SM but they keep 'forgetting' to mention these likes.It seems that MM really LIKES Seahawk player Jimmy Graham......;))

MM is all over Jimmy Graham in her SM.

She has just posted a IG story where she is wearing Jimmy's shirt.

I hope this means that the PR shamzie fuckery is over......

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by Anonymousreply 528December 25, 2017 10:59 PM

r526. I am a little bit disappointed that Amazon did not deliver those guys for Christmas. And I have sigbed up for Prime!

by Anonymousreply 529December 25, 2017 11:31 PM

R143

[quote] hmmm....interesting that Camuso is now claiming he doesn't know if MM and Sam are still together since he has claimed to "know" about their status since the bearding fiasco began. I wonder if this statement is intended to "signal" the upcoming "breakup" narrative. Maybe this round of bearding is over.

[quote]PurvScilla/Shatner/Camuso are just pointers to the big gay elephant in the room. Otherwise, they wouldn't need to say anything.

by Anonymousreply 530December 26, 2017 3:31 AM

From a bridge in Edinburg, Sam is 'ready for a fresh start'.

I wonder what does this mean.......

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by Anonymousreply 531December 26, 2017 6:10 PM

R528 Is that a real pic from the beards IG? She's holding that sign in front of her Christmas tree? WTF,she seems certifiable.I looked at her IG(I'm ashamed to admit) to see it,but all I saw was her and presumably her sister bin long underwear photo from the back,equally weird. She's a 30 year old woman for God's sake.what the hell.

by Anonymousreply 532December 26, 2017 6:23 PM

[quote]Is that a real pic from the beards IG?

It's a screencap from the IG story she posted yesterday. She's like Joan of Arc wearing Jimmy Graham's shirt, lol

[quote] all I saw was her and presumably her sister bin long underwear photo from the back,equally weird

MM loves to show off her ass, even in Christmas. William Shatner has liked her pic....

by Anonymousreply 533December 26, 2017 8:25 PM

Maybe MM IG story refers to just being a Seahawks fan ,9 and 6 record behind the Rams. Telling fans to be strong. The freaking light streak face pictures of Sam and her mirroring each other might be a sign of let the games begin again. Who cares????? Shallow Kardashian wannabes.

by Anonymousreply 534December 26, 2017 9:33 PM

I'm really hoping Sam's "fresh start" sentiment includes no more MM, however that crazy mouthpiece called Purv is still insisting they are an item. Her "proof" cracks me up:

"The PROOF that Mackenzie is STILL Sam’s girlfriend is William Shatner wishing Mackenzie a Merry Christmas directly on her IG account AND Mackenzie liking it. Shatner would NOT do that if he didn’t know for sure Mackenzie and Sam are still dating."

I'm pretty sure Camuso is running 86-year-old Shatner's Twitter account, so he is the one who probably actually "liked" MM's post. Plus, is Purv in junior high? You can't like a woman's post based on your own relationship with her -- only if she is still an appendage of a former boyfriend? I'm often still friends with both individuals who were once a couple. Wow, Purv really is a feminist.

by Anonymousreply 535December 26, 2017 9:55 PM

R535 Also, never underestimate the hard on he gets from antagonizing Outlander shippers and he knows liking MM's stuff does just that regardless of the bearding relationship status. Especially after talk of her was seeming to die down.

by Anonymousreply 536December 26, 2017 11:07 PM

Sam is in Scotland.

He has posted on MPC that he had a run at the coast.

by Anonymousreply 537December 27, 2017 2:01 AM

R535 R536 Re: Shatner/Camuso as a very UNreliable source ( they are working more as PR shills)

Shatner/Camuso was the first one who said that they had met Sam's 'girlfriend' at a dinner.

It's hilarious that just a few days before of that supposed dinner, MM looked very cozy with her real boyfriend Billy Magnussen at a romantic trip in Puerto Rico......

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by Anonymousreply 538December 27, 2017 6:59 PM

Another hottie is David Barry who is a stunner, straight but beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 539December 27, 2017 7:20 PM

[quote]The shamzies are obsessed about likes in SM but they keep 'forgetting' to mention these likes.It seems that MM really LIKES Seahawk player Jimmy Graham......;))

[quote]MM is all over Jimmy Graham in her SM.She has just posted a IG story where she is wearing Jimmy's shirt.I hope this means that the PR shamzie fuckery is over......

And ladies and gentlemen, Jimmy Graham is now liking MM's posts....

by Anonymousreply 540December 27, 2017 8:33 PM

Question to all of you. Do you think that the narrative really has changed? I see a different behaviour in Sams public SM.

What do you think will happen to the Shamzie dedicated tumblr? Will they support MM and JG in the future?

Do you think there will be a renewing around NYE with the beard and Sam?

by Anonymousreply 541December 27, 2017 8:53 PM

He got back together with MM.

by Anonymousreply 542December 27, 2017 10:58 PM

R542 =The shamzie troll is back.

R541, we'll have to wait a few more days and hope for a really 'fresh start'.

Since the shamzies are losing it, GAY Sam for them

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by Anonymousreply 543December 27, 2017 11:02 PM

R541 I think the bearding with MM is over for good. He'll move on to another beard in 2018; my guess is that she'll show up sometime in May/June.

Once its more obvious to Shamzies that Sam is no longer using MM for PR, the lead shamzie tumblr will tell her followers that she "just got confirmation" that Sam and MM broke up for good, that they had broken up for a short while but they were trying to work things out, but alas things didn't work out between them in the end. Lead shamzie will then go on to tell her followers how she is the very first one to report that the break up definitely happened, because she has a "source" and that is a FACT, lol. Then, most of the shamzies will stop following MM. Not immediately and not all at once, but they will. A few will hang on to follow her. The shamzies won't care who MM is dating, what she's doing in her career, and they'll stop calling her that annoying nickname, "Mack." Same pattern as the other beards....

by Anonymousreply 544December 28, 2017 5:44 AM

Great post, R544.

Sam is staying in Glasgow. Here are some pics of him at the gym with Valbo.

The SHAMzie queen is desperately grasping at straws, lol

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by Anonymousreply 545December 28, 2017 5:14 PM

Video of Sam at the gym today in Glasgow:

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by Anonymousreply 546December 28, 2017 7:43 PM

Purv's creepy sexual fantasies about Sam........xd

[quote]"I’m exhausted from writing The Barbie Wars series, so the short answer to the question “Why didn’t Amy and Cody talk to Sam instead of attacking each other?” Simple. Because Sam owns TMGD The Magical Golden Dirk, and it’s obviously SO magical that it makes grown women lose their damn minds. Obviously. 😊 IOW, Amy and Cody didn’t want to risk losing out on TMGD. And, hey, I don’t blame them. Just like pussy makes grown men do stupid things, for instance, give up state secrets, nations, the presidency, families, heck, the crown, the Big D, when it’s good, has the same effect on women. And if the Big D is in possession of Scottish magical powers, well then that’s a game changer, and there is NO giving that up without a fight."

Please, someone tell Purv that Amy IS A LESBIAN and she has already stated that Sam was NEVER her boyfriend. Therefore, Purv's 'Barbie wars' is fan fiction to keep the shamzie fraus entertained and from asking what happened to shamzie...............

If anything, Purv's 20,000 screencaps prove that Sam has used her female friends as 'beards' and that Abbie kept dating her real bf Nick ;) - Purv photoshopped Sam's head in one of those Abbie/Nick pics.

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by Anonymousreply 547December 28, 2017 8:40 PM

r547. It is getting weird. Or? At least one of the tumblr pages, has come to the same conclusion, like we here. There are interesting days coming up.

by Anonymousreply 548December 28, 2017 8:55 PM

Purvscilla spends countless hours obsessing over Heughan and his delusional fans but shames them for doing the same, calls Datalounge a cesspool but apparently reads here, and accuses others of being VILE to the beards but loves to parody them as "Barbies" and repost tweets they deleted. I prescribe these special self-awareness glasses to deal with her huge blind spot.

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by Anonymousreply 549December 28, 2017 9:09 PM

r549. I ve read me through three of the leading shamzies tumblr. Their moves in the last days are showing that they are really desperate. Interesting, how they grab even the smallest piece of wood to survive in their ocean of dumbness.

by Anonymousreply 550December 28, 2017 9:36 PM

Of all the tumblers,this Purv chick is the most misguided.She apparently can't. separate Heughan from the character he plays,who has renowned sexual prowess.How does she know the actor playing the part of Jamie has the same fantasy dick? What a moron, she is clearly nuts!

by Anonymousreply 551December 28, 2017 9:54 PM

All I can notice is that Sam have been acting kind of depressed on SM since Cait’s GG nomination, and now he’s talking about new beginnings...maybe we won’t see a fifth season of Outlander at all and he already knows it... Who knows... But all I can say is that the Mausy era is over...

by Anonymousreply 552December 28, 2017 9:58 PM

r552. Mhmmm. Interesting thoughts. Did he really expect a GG nomination? I dont think so, he is to long in this business. The script in S2 and S3 werent the ones who loved him. He looked more gay than ever in S3, even he did this painful workout during the shooting in SA. His strongest performance were the last episodes of S1, when production has the best source. And they overseen him, which cant be undone. The books are not getting better, Starz has already cut storylines in S3. After book four, the story is told. My prediction: No S5, otherwise they would have announced it already. Following what has been said by production, they were starting to think about S4 and were working on that at the beginning of filming S3. We havent heard anything about a probably S5 since weeks. May be I am wrong, but...

So, and I will follow your thoughts. No S5, no nomination for any respectable awards. He is done with Outlander. But still, I may be wrong.

by Anonymousreply 553December 28, 2017 10:51 PM

Mackenzie is pregnant. will be released soon!

by Anonymousreply 554December 29, 2017 2:42 PM

are they going to release who the father is too?

by Anonymousreply 555December 29, 2017 2:45 PM

R555 Absolutely.

by Anonymousreply 556December 29, 2017 2:53 PM

well we know who it won't be lol

by Anonymousreply 557December 29, 2017 3:04 PM

r557. Oh our troll at r554, who also predicted that MM headed to London a couple of days ago, started the booster.

by Anonymousreply 558December 29, 2017 3:53 PM

[554] That would be the pinnacle of PR fuckery.!

by Anonymousreply 559December 29, 2017 5:14 PM

Yes, R509/R512/R554/R556 is the liar shamzie troll.

GAY Sam for her:

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by Anonymousreply 560December 29, 2017 6:55 PM

Sam has been spotted at Glasgow airport this morning. The SHAMzie fraus are excited!

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by Anonymousreply 561December 29, 2017 7:51 PM

Is Sam trolling the fandom?

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by Anonymousreply 562December 29, 2017 9:33 PM

r562. Well Sam, even the business class compartment (there is normally no First class on inner Europe connection) is still unfortunatly connected with the 90% rest of your plane.

So Sam, remember the line of Miranda Priestley (hopefully I do not have to explain) sitting at her suite, while outside there is a huge storm? May be, you reflect your current situation. And compare it to the other pax booked on your flight? You probably had a really 0.1 % first world problem! Think about all the staff working outside at the airport. Cleaning the runway from snow, preparing your plane, de-icing it. Those guys who check you in, carry your lugagge, screen you at security, inflight staff, the Captain and and his crew, the cute gay pursor, who treated you well!

You havent missed the flight to LA for receiving an Academy Award. You havent even missed a flight to show up on a TV set. You were just one small number in between all this other millions people, who suffered last night being stranded on Highways and Airports die to heavy snow fall.

And by the way. Complaining about being trapped on an Airport due to heavy weather does not fit very well with your Audi and Barbour PR contracts.

Oh boy, you are close to 40. Try to reach adultness. But never ever complain about a delayed flight, due to bad weather. Got it? Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 563December 29, 2017 10:26 PM

r562 and me r563. Sorry, got the story completly wrong, didnt see the complete twitter. Sorry for my rant. Where are my glasses and the DL delete button, if you need it? Sorry guys...

by Anonymousreply 564December 29, 2017 10:40 PM

Just please no more mm

by Anonymousreply 565December 29, 2017 11:34 PM

R565 Amen x1000.

Hey Sam’s PR, listen up! I hate that he has to beard but if he does, please find someone more palatable.

by Anonymousreply 566December 30, 2017 2:03 AM

Sam’s behavior on SM nowadays is Just pathetic... He’s almost 40 and is acting like a child! Total drama Queen at first, after being snubbed, and now, showing off like a zebra... Please stop The bullshit, Sam! How could anyone ever thought that Caitriona would be in Love with him? Even If he were straight, which he’s obviously not, she would never be interested. Even MM, who is just a beard, seems to have broken their contract... And now, I’m sure, he is already in USA, reunited with Camuso and Shatner, trying to figure out what the hell is he going to do... Certainly another beard is already being selected right now... Poor Sam, acting childish like this, he will never find a nice and serious guy to love...

by Anonymousreply 567December 30, 2017 3:18 AM

[quote] and now, showing off like a zebra... Please stop The bullshit, Sam!

R567 The fact he's announced in twitter that he's travelling, makes me think of more PR fuckery.

by Anonymousreply 568December 30, 2017 3:44 AM

After the second reread of my post at r563, i came to the conclusion that I was right. And r567. Hopefully he does not get the advice from this people. And Jennifer Allen, your PR is just bad.

by Anonymousreply 569December 30, 2017 10:43 AM

And now he is joking on SM. Flirting with Diana Gabaldon. God, please, just stop, Sam! Go get a proper guy, man! Cait is in Sydney with her real bf, and MM have just abandoned him, for good. I just can’t get it how anyone can believe this man insn’t gay as hell!

by Anonymousreply 570December 30, 2017 11:21 AM

R570

[quote]I just can’t get it how anyone can believe this man insn’t gay as hell!

Even Stevie Wonder could see it....... ......

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by Anonymousreply 571December 30, 2017 6:41 PM

Unfortunately SH desperately needs a new PR team as JA etc are only causing him lasting harm - rather than emphasising his real and significant acting talents and supporting him for real industry awards, they seem to be reducing his image to beefcake tabloid fodder. If he is in a real rather than 'real' relationship with MM, then it is appallingly dysfunctional - he doesn't seem able to look lovingly at her or show any affectionate body language - snuggling up with both looking at the cameras (often with product placements) rather than candid shots of him looking at her with real feeling just doesn't cut it. Sadly I think we have more shenanigans to come - MM is posting IGs of bridges as he did last week, and he is travelling (bored sigh from me). If only he would just take his 'private' life out of the spotlight - he doesn't have to have a public gf let alone beard, although I can understand the great pressure for bearding, and he may find himself in a PR exercise from which he can't escape. He desperately needs mentors and the vicious Shatner and seemingly besotted Camuso are just making things so much worse. How can he be considered a serious contender with this circus going on? Also the latter-season 3 scripts of Outlander seem to be increasingly relegating him to a support role to CB, and if this continues, his career may be in real trouble - there is no Season 5 announced yet. I very much hope I am wrong but..... [for what it is worth from a middle aged hetero female who lost a tooth veneer during a pro-gay marriage rally some weeks ago - I don't think the thug meant to hit me so hard and I was on the edge of the crowd, but I still see it as a war-wound- and we won in the postal survey!!!!]

by Anonymousreply 572December 30, 2017 10:19 PM

Is Paul Camuso gay? He appears to be obsessed with Sam.

by Anonymousreply 573December 30, 2017 10:33 PM

He's certainly at least gay for Sam. OR just plain obsessed.

by Anonymousreply 574December 30, 2017 10:43 PM

Hey r572. Welcome to DL. And welcome to the place, where gay Sam Heughan is appreciated.

by Anonymousreply 575December 30, 2017 10:44 PM

Non-smiling MM at DECEPTION Bridge in Washington state.

And HEARTS from Jon Fletcher.

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by Anonymousreply 576December 30, 2017 11:42 PM

Pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 577December 31, 2017 1:40 AM

So in the very last hours of 2017 we get: SamCait shipper thinking loudly about Sam being gay, WS/PC calling out the shipperqueen on TW, WS giving away CB adress in Glasgow, so what will come next?

A happy New Year to the nice folks here!

by Anonymousreply 578December 31, 2017 5:47 PM

From our fantasy unicorn to yours...

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by Anonymousreply 579December 31, 2017 6:19 PM

Wondering what to make of this...

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by Anonymousreply 580December 31, 2017 7:02 PM

That photo is from July...580.... as stated by the original poster

by Anonymousreply 581December 31, 2017 7:19 PM

MM is watching Jimmy Graham at the Seahawks match.....

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by Anonymousreply 582December 31, 2017 11:46 PM

R582, any idea if she is there as Jimmy's guest -- or is Sam with her?

by Anonymousreply 583January 1, 2018 12:27 AM

Of course Sam isn't with her

by Anonymousreply 584January 1, 2018 12:37 AM

Someone is always with her (not Sam), bc. she doesn't take most of the pics by herself.

by Anonymousreply 585January 1, 2018 12:53 AM

r585. Interesting, isnt it? A lot of people around her IG praise her for the quality of her shots. In about 99 % those pics are taken from someone else. I cant believe, that people dont see that.

It is scaring, how easy people are manipulated.

by Anonymousreply 586January 1, 2018 1:20 AM

how does everyone know she isn't with Sam?

by Anonymousreply 587January 1, 2018 1:44 AM

No one has seen him ther.,

Sam and the beard haven't been seen together since 4 months ago.

Guess the contract is up.

by Anonymousreply 588January 1, 2018 2:10 AM

And the Seahawks lost! She's even managed to jinx a team that has a great at-home record and regularly comes from behind to win -- TELL me she doesn't screw up everything she touches (just like the WONDERS she's performed for SH's reputation!).

by Anonymousreply 589January 1, 2018 12:54 PM

Balfe's engagement has been 'announced' while still in Australia by a new jurno friend on IG . @melissahoyer .

by Anonymousreply 590January 1, 2018 1:44 PM

I know HW is crazy, but he wouldn't really give away Cait's address! Where did you see that, R578?

by Anonymousreply 591January 1, 2018 2:07 PM

Happy New Year! Letbus hope that our next thread has the joy and goodwill of previous threads applauding Sam being Gay and not the past few that have been lauded with nasty and unsolicited as well as untrue comments from shamzies and trolls! To all those non believers, You Tube has a fabulous 1hr program called "Gay Holliwood: The Last Taboo (2009). It is a documentary about why Hollywood keeps up the act even though it admits that "gay" fuels Hollywood with its writers, producers, actors and directors. Being gay, it is not news to me, we know this but to the uneducated it may open up your minds and spirits to what goes on publically behind closed doors in personal lives. To quote a line in the opening of the film, " an actor must closet if he is seen in romantic roles because that means a loss of revenue. Once he/she closets, it is even more difficult NOT to come out without causing huge backlashes to the machine"

by Anonymousreply 592January 1, 2018 4:19 PM

2018 will the year of gay Sam!

by Anonymousreply 593January 1, 2018 4:20 PM

R593 I’m here for that!

by Anonymousreply 594January 1, 2018 5:12 PM

R591 He didn't give it out. A music business replied to his pic of Cait saying something like "Hey she's our downstairs neighbor in Glasgow!". The tweet is gone now but was left up there for quite awhile.

by Anonymousreply 595January 1, 2018 5:29 PM

Caitriona is engaged and MM seems to have other plans... And now What, Sam? In My opinion, Sam and Cait already know that outlander will be over after season 4. Cait is taking her path... She’s going to marry her real bf and she has a more respectable career to carry on. She has been nominated to GG’s, CCA’s... Her PR has been much more focused on her talent and career... Now, Sam will be left with people like Camuso and Shatner, who will try to continue selling him as a sex symbol and find him another blond beard. I feel really sorry for Sam, and hope that he has the strength to break this wheel... Afterall, he’s a 40 yo gay man who is acting like a toy.

by Anonymousreply 596January 1, 2018 5:56 PM

Cait is finally engaged to her real bf, Tony.

During all these years, there has been a reason why Tony has never been bothered by SamCait constant flirting and sexual innuendo: Tony knows that Sam is GAY.

by Anonymousreply 597January 1, 2018 8:01 PM

Now the question is, will Sam's publicist Jennifer Allen, look for a new beard for Sam? What will happen with the beard MM?There will be more PR fuckery?

Sam needs to get rid of this horrible 'PR team' that includes Shatner, Camuso, MM, Purv and Co.....

by Anonymousreply 598January 1, 2018 8:05 PM

Link to the new thread:

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by Anonymousreply 599January 1, 2018 8:06 PM

+63,000 views.

The most watched thread in Datalounge.

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