Transgender Activist Dana Rivers Arrested for Brutal Murder of Lesbian Couple and Their Son

Oh, god, here we go. Another tranny post, and now we're back to spamming the site with GenderTrender crap from that crazy dyke that creates nude artwork of herself with gun paraphernalia. How many times did you jerk yourself off to this story, OP?

I'll have you know r1, I NEVER have to jerk myself off. I have PLENTY of people to do that for me.

GenderTrender owner and male-hater, Linda Shanko (aka GallusMag). She's spamming us again.

Unfortunately, this is not shocking. And the media will avoid it.

"The patriarchy need to be outlawed."

So someone wouldn't sleep with it, eh? Is this what normally happens?

Three people who didn't get the pronouns right.

[quote]I'll have you know [R1], I NEVER have to jerk myself off. I have PLENTY of people to do that for me.

Yeah, sure Linda. You also don't have to wash yourself with a rag on a stick.

A face not even Jabba could love.

Innocent.

I don't know who r2 is, but he/she/it is not me.

And I don't always agree with Gender Trender, but I shared it because a) as I said, 99% were referring to this man as a "woman" (further proof that we're living in a "post-truth" era) and b) no other LGB(T) site is touching it.

She's a hellaofava man, eh?

Trans lunatics and their pharma, money-grubbing, brain-dead, and homophobic supporters will be the death of gay rights and death of gay & lesbians, period.

Transgender=mentally ill

Well...?

You know we're all thinking the same question.

Holy shit.

Yes, r15, we are all thinking the same question.

drop and jail

I'm guessing R15 was referring to the "does he still have his dick?" question.

And the right answer is: it doesn't matter, he's still a mentally ill male!

Thanks r19. I honestly had not thought of that.

We talked about this murder when it happened, R1. Is a followup on it against your rules? Do you need a safe space and your comfort hedgehog to make you feel better again?

I hate how you think anything involving trans is some kind of radfem spam posted to personally offend you. You're worse than the people who you complain about.

Oh, and genius R1 -- OP and R2 aren't the same person. If you would just use the ignore function instead of bitching 24/7, you'd know that.

But I thought trans NEVER murdered anyone. I thought they were purely non-violent victims.

I see R1 is posting articles from World Net Daily and has been defending Steve Bannon. Which is par for the course for someone trying to dox a lesbian because he assumes he knows who's behind an anonymous posting of a news article.

I am r2.

This is DL.

Anyone who thought my post was actually the OP does not deserve to be on DL.

R23 And a "queer woman of colour" no less. Seems like it's the trannies who are literally murdering queer women of colour.

Regardless, this is horrible. Killed the kid too? Hopefully they release more details--they probably won't.

Funny how they labelled it a "domestic" incident. Isn't that usually between people in a relationship?

There are plenty of news outlets reporting this, do a search using the victims names and you'll see seceral reputable news sources:

[quote]Woman arrested in triple killing at Oakland home where cops found slain couple and son

The sources don't mention the killer beins trans in the headlines but it is stated in the body of the articles:

[quote]Sacramento area woman arrested in killings of 3 people in Oakland home

[quote]Woman, 61, charged in Oakland triple slaying

So there you go. OP seems to have an agenda and appears to visit some click-baity, right-wing sites, but this story is actually national news (minus emphasis on the assailant being trans)

[quote]Funny how they labelled it a "domestic" incident. Isn't that usually between people in a relationship?

I know. So creepy. Why do they get away with so many lies whenever it is something about trans. I guess because it is all based on a lie. And this was not a woman.

A 'noted transgender activist' would be someone like Mara Keisling of National Center for Transgender Equality, or media personality and writer Janet Mock. The fact that this individual had a run-in with her employer 20 years ago doesn't qualify her as one.

Nasty, alt-right dank meme. Divisiveness and hate on the DL needs to fuck off.

It's disturbing the news is calling him a "woman". Thanks Glaad for this lunacy.

They're your friends, r31, you deal with them.

He's not trans. Because trans people are incapable of crime.

I'm surprised the rotund half (Charlotte Reed) owns a motorcycle. It's just for decoration, right?

Regardless, this is terrible. My first thought is the lesbian couple refused to have sex with him. Or they told him, and rightfully so, a front hole doesn't beget status as a female.

[quote]arraigned without bail on charges of triple homicide, arson of an inhabited dwelling, and possession of metal knuckles. He faces life without possibility of parole, and potential death sentence.

Wow. DL's issue with trans aside, women don't do things like this. I accept that some people feel like they were born in the wrong body and make efforts to change themselves physically, but unless you're socialized from a young age, certain things and characteristics will always remain male or female; this was a horrific crime committed by someone socialized as a man.

From R27:

[quote]A male victim identified by Berkeleyside as Benny Wright, 19, was found stabbed to death outside the home, and cops then heard another loud bang inside a garage. The officers watched Rivers walk out of the home, covered in blood, and toward a victim's motorcycle to escape, according to the East Bay Times. Wright’s adoptive parents, Patricia Wright, 57, and her wife, Charlotte Reed, 56, were found fatally shot inside the home.

We live in a scary world, she deserves a life sentence for this. That said, she'll get free medical care for life in a woman's prison.

This article gives a little background on Rivers:

[quote]Former Sacramento transgender teacher arrested in Oakland triple homicide

I think they were saying that (at the time) none of the LGBT sites were reporting it.

And the mainstream articles refer to him as a woman

r27-29, I'm about as left as you can get without going full-on Communist; it's precisely because I AM a progressive that I reject the Transgender Ideology, which is misogynist, homophobic and anti-science. The reason I linked to Gender Trender, which if you'd read my posts you'd know this already, was because no other LGB(T) sites were covering it and because 99% of the mainstream sites were referring to this man as a woman.

[quote]Nasty, alt-right dank meme.

You'll have to explain why. I honestly don't get why this is some alt-right shit. I put Dana Rivers' name into Google News and three on the first page list her as an activist. They're all legit news sources, not this Gender Trender place. And seven of these news sources mention she's trans.

I'm not trying to start something I legitimately don't know why the mention of these things means the alt-right is skewing the news.

The mainstream media referring to the killer as a woman is some serious 1984 shit.

The plain truth: "LGBT" sites will not report this because they'd rather cover up the murder of homosexuals than possibly hurt trans feelings.

I'll leave to you the conclusion of how homosexuals should feel about these "LGBT" groups that purport to represent them.

At least Wordpress referred to it as a he.

"Janet Mock" Hey, perfect name. "Janet" mocks science, biology, the law and common sense.

Surely, you recall M**o's alt.right anti-trans hate campaign which employed his various sock puppets here on DL, R40? He tours the country targeting these same individuals.

Divide and conquer is the alt.right's game. Wise up. Stop scapegoating vulnerable individuals.

Well, I mean.....look at the state of it!

Like actual lesbians r44? They're especially vulnerable.

I'm sorry, R44, but you didn't really answer my question. You said at R31 that the murderer isn't an activist; therefore, this is alt-right bullshit. I thought you meant that Gender Trender made up the fact that this was an activist, but lots of news outlets are saying she was. When I asked you to explain you started going off on Milo as though he were involved in this or posting on this thread, when he's not.

And the confessed murderer is NOT a "vulnerable individual." What vulnerable individuals are being victimized here, besides the two lesbians and their kid who were murdered?

This mentally deranged man who murdered three people had better not be allowed in a women's prison. Deplorable.

The Trans 'community' have an odd attitude to T violence. They either keep totally silent - such as when males who identify as T tell lesbians online to slit their throats, or , they stand outside jails and courts with placards proclaiming 'T hatred' in support of some wig-wearing male who has raped women and is demanding a spot in a female jail, or, they speedily distance their precious 'movement' from the perp, and pretend that T was never really a big cheese - see: Stefonknee - he was on T committees and stuff, despite being a full-on lunatic who lives as a 'little girl' with an asshole BDSM male+ female couple who act as his 'parents', but when it broke that he had been arrested for threatening to set fire to his ex wife and his kids' home, the 'community' kept silent.

What exactly has the murderer done in this century that qualifies her as 'activist'? What media has she produced? What organization does she represent? What lobbying efforts has she participated in?

Pray tell, how the fuck do you know who is posting on this thread? Milo has defined it as his very own, pet alr.right issue.

About 25 trans people have been murdered in the US this year. That's a definition of vulnerability that even the FBI acknowledges.

Stop trashing this nice little watering hole with hate.

There is a catalogue of murders and rapes and other sexual offences that have been committed by males who identify as transwomen, R50 - that is just a fact, and given they are a small minority in the population, the rates of violence are higher than in the general population. This is a GAY site and lesbians form part of the regular crowd here and it is not surprising that a lesbian couple being brutally murdered gets coverage here, nor, give the anti-gay bullshit the T put out, that posters take in interest in the identity of the perp.

I was on Oprah, bitches! And Oprah loves bread!

[quote] What exactly has the murderer done in this century that qualifies her as 'activist'?

Ask the legitimate news media that is listing her as an activist. Don't get pissy with me if some blog uses "activist" to describe someone that the media describes as an activist.

[quote]Pray tell, how the fuck do you know who is posting on this thread?

No, the question is, how do YOU? YOU'RE the one who is making the claims about posters on the thread being Milo's secret shills.

[quote]About 25 trans people have been murdered in the US this year. That's a definition of vulnerability that even the FBI acknowledges.

A total of 600 LGBT people were murdered in 2013 and the first few months of 2014. So... roughly 4% of all LGBT murders are of trans persons. Meaning 96% are LGB victims.

Dana Rivers, activist in 2008:

[quote]After a nearly three-year stint as a transgender activist, which brought her face-to-face with Congressman Barney Frank (D-Massachusetts), who later led the charge against a transgender-inclusive Employment Non-Discrimination Act in the House of Representatives in October, Rivers said, she knows how lucky she is.

Dana Rivers, activist in 1999:

[quote]Ms. Rivers, formerly know as David Warfield, had developed a program to encourage unmotivated students that was highly celebrated and won a prestigious grant; she won her school's 'Stand and Deliver' award for inspiring students; and, at the school district's annual meeting in September, she was given a standing ovation.

The LGBTQ media is concerned that stories like this might lead to low trans self-esteem. And bad press for the trans community.

Dana Rivers, activist in 2001:

[quote]After being forced to resign from her high school teaching job when she told her employer that she was a transsexual woman, Rivers became a leading advocate for transgender rights. She speaks to the need for the lesbian, gay and bisexual community to embrace transgender issues, arguing that a queer person’s gender expression is at the root of much of the oppression they face.

So can you shut the hell up with your claims that she wasn't an activist? She was an activist starting in the 1990s and going into the 2000s. Why would you even claim she wasn't an activist? She was apparently very well known.

[quote] About 25 trans people have been murdered in the US this year. That's a definition of vulnerability that even the FBI acknowledges.

What's the source for your statement about the FBI? Obviously 25 murders is too many - I'm not meaning to downplay it - but how does it compare to the general population? Even if you account for the fact that trans people are a very small minority, 25 in one year doesn't sound all that high. I've never seen any evidence that trans people are at a disproportionate risk of murder in comparison to the rest of the population. I'm willing to be proved wrong, though.

Why are the T-shills discussing such trivial matters like if he's an activist or not?

Oh, surely it's because they're trying to evade the real topic at hand: [bold]a transwoman (a cis-male, effectively) MURDERED two lesbians and their child[/bold]

[quote] I've never seen any evidence that trans people are at a disproportionate risk of murder in comparison to the rest of the population.

That's because THERE IS NONE! The handful of tranny murders are because the trannies are sex workers and it's due to the violence inherent in the profession, not because they're trans. But god forbid a tranny doesn't martyr every "tragedy" for the cause!

[quote]The LGBTQ media is concerned that stories like this might lead to low trans self-esteem. And bad press for the trans community.

This is what I can't stand. The "LGBTQ" media suppresses any reporting that holds trans people in a bad light but almost seems to take delight in demonizing gay men, in particular, gay white men. They have ZERO problem reporting about the crimes of gay people when they occur. The only content that seems to be approved by certain well known gay news sites and portals that has anything to do with gay white men that doesn't revolve around some kind of criminal activity is exclusively about prostitution or kink/BDSM shit or "here's another gay guy whose in the closet or fucking us over". It's pathetic. If I see another article titled "How To Select Your Johns" or "My Journey Into The BDSM Leather Scene" or "The Life Of A Hooker" I think I'm going to put my fist through my screen.

We had a tranny murderer in Maine last year...

You know Hwhat? Just like the Finding Prince Charming dude was an escort hired by people working at Logo which "may" have influenced their decision in selecting them to be the bachelor for their show, I'm starting to think that the staff at our media outlets' management teams are just hiring their own hookers to create the content. Hence the massive amount of hooker/sex related articles compared to anything that wouldn't be classified as such.

R50 stop trashing this nice little watering hole with your batshit crazy trans whining. A biological man - no matter which clothing was worn or cosmetic surgery done you CANNOT change sex - has murdered two lesbian women and their son. That's the real story here. Two gay women and a teenage boy were murdered. Those are the people I have sympathy for, not their murderer. No matter how the murderer likes to dress.

[quote]Diambu-Wright was an aspiring nurse who was attending Laney College and working at Walmart. Wright and Reed had been married for over a year and had three children between them.

[quote]People who knew Reed said she was a veteran of the U.S. Air Force and owned a hair salon in San Jose. [quote] Wright also worked part-time at Esperanza Elementary School in Oakland as a computer prep teacher, said John Sasaki, a spokesman for Oakland Unified School District.

[quote]Wright’s principal, Kathleen Arnold said the teacher brought so much to the school.

[quote]“She was a true educator and so excited to work in her community,” Arnold said. “It really was a match made in heaven. She wanted to be part-time, and that’s what we needed. I offered her a job on the spot.”

[quote]Campbell described Rivers as an acquaintance.

[quote]“I knew this woman (Rivers),” said Wright’s son Khari Campbell-Wright, 19. “I don’t know the whole confines of what was going on. I know she (Rivers) was in a motorcycle club. My mom had no part of it. My brother had no part of it. “Wrong place, wrong time,” he said.

So sad.

[quote] About 25 trans people have been murdered in the US this year. That's a definition of vulnerability that even the FBI acknowledges.

Because they are prostitutes. That's the sole reason R50. Almost every single one of those are black tranny prostitutes. It's a dangerous profession.

There is no such thing as transphobia. But homophobia and sexism are deadly.

[quote]"Janet Mock" Hey, perfect name. "Janet" mocks science, biology, the law and common sense.

And women

Dana Rivers, killer of two lesbian women & their son, publicly protested Michfest's intent to have a female only event.

And he was an activist. Says so. Renowned activist.

Oh, God forgive me for doubting and mocking the Womyn. They were right all along.

I'm going to stop referring to them as trans women and start calling them medical experiments.

There needs to be a gay and lesbian organization to protest the fake gay & lesbian "LGBT" organizations that do not even report on the murder of lesbians. Or anything truthful or intelligent about gay & lesbian people. They are anti-gay and lesbian.

Aggressive promotion of transgender hate is in fact Milo's signature issue and a tool he uses to get attention. We see you, we see your neo-Nazi connections, we see a genuinely pathetic human being.

Nothing is more Nazi than the Nazi-like experiments on the human body that that trans represents, born out of homophobia and sick experimentation à la Josef Mengele.

[quote]I'm guessing [R15] was referring to the "does he still have his dick?" question. And the right answer is: it doesn't matter, he's still a mentally ill male!

Uh, yes it does matter. If he still has his equipment he belongs in a male only jail.

I can only see one tool here r73 (your tuck job is slipping).

r73, do you really think this is the time and the place for your lesbophobic propagandizing? Have you no shame, even in the wake of the murders of two lesbians and their son?

OMG, R73 is truly stupid.

Everyone is repulsed by trans, R73. Not just Milo.

[quote]lesbophobic propagandizing

Oh my lord.

I also think that R73 is a tool, but that's just too much "newly-invented-word-speak" at one time for me not to point it out.

Neither of those words are "newly invented," r81.

I think it was an activist. It helped close michfest; why is DL defending it?

R71, in the case of this murderer, I encourage you to refer to it as a FAILED medical experiment.

Male? Female? People who kill like that aren't even human anymore.

R82 : Lesbophobic?

Like homophobic? What would be the term that applies to men exclusively?

Well, considering how many gay men hate lesbians, it is a term in my vocabulary.

r85, I have no idea, but I do know that I have seen the word "lesbophobic" for many years now. Why on earth are you focusing on two perfectly legitimate words when two lesbians are DEAD?

[quote] (And if you do a Google search, most news outlets are referring to Rivers as a "woman.")

Oh hell no! You are NOT pinning this shit on us.

yes, because we wome are known for triple homicide, arson and motorbike theft. We all do it on weekends after our knitting circle. I fucking hate news sites ; they are trying to have it both ways by saying trans and calling him a woman.

I swear to god, if I see this show up on a site (Jezebel) and their main issue is news sites containing his real/old name I am going to lose it.

[quote]the media will avoid it.

Not in the SF Bay Area, they aren't. It's been big news for the last couple of days.

He does have a twat now, or hole in front, in one of the many articles about him it said how he was getting it done and I think he overshared about it with his class and that's why he was asked to leave the school, and then paid for it even though I know many teachers and if they talked about their snatches they'd be dismissed too.

We should take bets on how soon it will show up on Jizzabel, r89.

Hell, I'll go ahead and write it myself, because I know exactly what it's going to say: "While her actions were problematic, that is no excuse for misgendering Rivers, and placing her in a male prison puts her in real danger. In our interview, Rivers laughed when asked about those who were concerned about her being put in a shared space with cis women. 'I've been on female hormones for 20 years,' she said with a shrug. 'I couldn't rape them if I wanted to.' As for the three murders, Rivers points out that the allergy medication she was taking reacted badly with her HRT. 'If cis doctors did their homework before treating trans patients,' she said, 'none of this would have ever happened.'"

I can think of a few teachers I had that I would have been thrilled if they had discussed their cocks with us.

In case anyone was wondering if mental illness goes along with trans.

"He does have a twat now, or hole in front, in one of the many articles about him it said how he was getting it done..."

I'd bet a million dollars he never went through with it, r91.

r92, you know I love you right?

I have been reading that too but all the ones I see simply say 'sex change' and as we've seen - that often just means getting the tits sewn on not the chop-chop. I am curious if he really cut it because he says he's a lesbian and usually the straight guys keep it.

Trans = 21st century Tuskegee Experiment except with gays instead of blacks.

" They said I spoke to students in an inappropriate manner about my transition. The elements of their claim are largely inaccurate and out of context. And besides, I would never do anything to hurt my students. The real reason they are upset is that I am gender-different. I don't fit in to their concept of what a good teacher is. No matter what I did or didn't do last spring, these people would still not want me teaching." - from interview in 99.

IYF: Did you discuss your transition with your students? If so, how did they react?

DR: I can't go there because of the remaining legal stuff.

His pronouns were mandatory, but no-one listened.

R92 sadly I think we're so far through the looking glass it could actually play out like that.

Fucking bullshit in R92 's quote. If ONLY the doctors had done their job.... If he was on HRT for 20 years, shouldn't he already know his own medications and what they interact with? I do.

[quote]yes, because we wome are known for triple homicide, arson and motorbike theft. We all do it on weekends after our knitting circle. I fucking hate news sites ; they are trying to have it both ways by saying trans and calling him a woman. I swear to god, if I see this show up on a site (Jezebel) and their main issue is news sites containing his real/old name I am going to lose it.

Well, if you really want specifics, a white male brutally killed a black family. Or, fine, a white "woman" killed a black family. When trans of color are victimized it's a big deal but now that a trans woman is the butcher, race doesn't matter.

r103, r92 is a parody post, like that's what he imagines the article will say, and I bet he's not far off.

Trans-worshiping Autostraddle calls him a “former” LGBT activist, of course, and goes on to say:

“Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists and other anti-trans activists have seized this opportunity to shout loudly at news outlets and on social media that Dana was ‘really a man’ and should be labeled as such. (In many cases such shouts are unecessary as most media has successfully mis-gendered Dana when discussing her past and used other incorrect terminology.) Although there’s nothing but rage in our hearts towards Dana Rivers, it would be tragic if this case was used to marginalize and stigmatize other trans women, especially if said stigmatization comes from other LGBTQ women…”

The rest of R106's quote:

[quote]especially if said stigmatization comes from other LGBTQ women — historically, cisgender lesbian and bisexual women have also been demonized as murderers, rapists and criminals, with every true story of an actual LGBQ female criminal held up to promote falsehoods about the entire group. We shouldn’t perpetuate that here.

Maybe I've been living under a rock, who are these demonized "cisgender" criminals they're referring to?

Was she charged as a man or a woman ?

"Dana" is a name that can swing both ways ! 😂

I'm with you r107, never heard of lesbians routinely being painted rapists, arsonists, murderers, voyeurs, stalkers, domestic abusers etc. mainly because it is so uncommon as to be a very rare occurrence. These hobbies are primarily MtT activities.

r52 I love you so much !!!!!!

I looked u dl fave Jazz Jennings on GenderTrender and came upon an article about trans kids and was so struck by this:

Ryan entered second grade as a boy testing at a kindergarten level and exited as a girl named Rachel testing at a fourth grade level. Because school administrators would not let Rachel wear a dress to school, Guinan worked to get a dress code of khaki pants instituted so that other girls would at least be wearing the same clothing as her daughter.

This boy's mom fucking changed the grade school dress code so her kid wouldn't feel "left out"? Yeah you guys don't ask for much at all. Fucking meddling parents of special snowflakes. It's kids who have shit shifted around and done for them by their parents and never learn the word "no" who grow up to murder said parents when they do finally say no.

The real crime here is that this proud TRANSWOMAN'S elected gender is being erased by the cis-media.

I want to know why this bitch killed those perfectly nice middle-aged lesbians and their child. I guess helping to kill Michfest wasn't enough to satisfy her.

Someone in the Autostraddle comments section says that one of the victims was "a continual source of support for the trans community with her salon that sub-specialized in gender presentation."

When will these "inclusive" lesbians realize that no amount of bending over backwards for these transwomen (natal men) is ever enough? This woman put aside everything feminism had taught her to devote her life to reinforcing harmful gender stereotypes and she STILL wound up dead.

It's. Never. Enough. There is no amount of validation that will satisfy them because they know, deep down, they are still not natal women and never will be.

Triple murder:

[quote]Why are the T-shills discussing such trivial matters like if he's an activist or not?

I was pointing out that Rivers WAS an activist specifically because that crazy person kept saying this story was being manipulated by the media in a way that hurt all trans people, and part of that manipulation was making it falsely seem like Rivers was an activist.

Except it wasn't false: Rivers WAS an activist. And here we are again with another trans activist and noted trans person charged with a violent crime. It happens a lot. That's why trans and trans supporters don't like it being brought up.

Thanks, Dear R105. I have a really difficult time picking out parody these days, as things have gotten so far out of normal.

Yes, r117. Orwell was off by 32 years.

Pink News manages to cover it without ever using the words "trans" or "transgender." Comments should be very interesting!

The Autostraddle article is fucking disgusting. Those fucking hypocrites.

[quote] Trans = 21st century Tuskegee Experiment except with gays instead of blacks.

Miss Jorgensen's Boys

If Norman Bates were still alive he would have surely transitioned, taken his mother's name, and proposed to Sheriff Romero.

I read the first comment at Pink News and was thoroughly disgusted. I am so appalled with this so-called "post-truth" era, that rejects facts because of "feelz." Please tell me that all this silliness will pass.

There's a psycho called Marti polluting the Pink News comments. He's a know freak.

correction : known not know

If he's a man in womanface then freakdom is a given r124.

Yes, Marti is a tranny

[quote]Even if you account for the fact that trans people are a very small minority, 25 in one year doesn't sound all that high. I've never seen any evidence that trans people are at a disproportionate risk of murder in comparison to the rest of the population.

Because they are delicate helpless feminine female ladies, don'tcha know! That means they're always victims and never aggressors, because it's not in their delicate helpless lady-brains or their feminine female lady-nature!

"unecessary" Geez, Autostraddle.

[quote]I'm guessing [[R15]] was referring to the "does he still have his dick?" question. And the right answer is: it doesn't matter, he's still a mentally ill male!

[quote]>> Uh, yes it does matter. If he still has his equipment he belongs in a male only jail.

Actually, he STILL belongs in a male-only jail no matter if he's got a front-hole or a "ladystick", because he's still MALE.

Fee-fees and hormones do not a female make. Biology is real.

Look, we all know that the T train is about to hit the wall. Now we are in Trumptown, we all have much, much bigger concerns than these screeching ubervictims and their science-denial and violent tantrums.

Trump doesn't understand the difference between gay and trans, like a lot of straight people.

There is a possibility that gay rights could be taken away, while homophobic parents go on making their kids "transgender."

I think r132 has hit the nail on the head. The general public think the T are gay. I have lost count of the people who've told me that T is a sexuality.

In reality the closest it comes to that is being a fetish but of course the shrill T whiners deny that any of them are merely fetishists, they deny that they get herections when pulling on their bizarrely overly feminine lingerie when we've all SEEN the fetish pics. Just being plain old men who get their kink on by dressing in womanface doesn't fit the eternal victim status.

We really need to separate the T from the acronym and make it very, very clear that playing dress up is NOT a sexuality and neither is having a personality disorder or four.

I am beginning to think a lot of straight people are very dense, R133. That's too complicated for them, and no media, school, or anything is explaining it to them. Even the "educated" do not get it...at all. It seems straight people didn't even get gay or androgynous, or tomboy it seems. T is a horror for gay rights/existence, and I think this horror is just beginning.

True, R130, and this pig is violent as fuck. No way he belongs in any kind of protected environment. Let him go to the worst prison they can find and fend off all the thugs.

R133, you just described Bruce Jenner. He has no plans to cut that thing off. His only interest is in playing dress up. It's a fetish, nothing more.

I don't think we should rush to judge Dana Rivers until we find out who she voted for first.

Dana, had sexual-reassignment surgery, meaning she had the dick cut off and a vagina sculpted. By all accounts SHE is a trans-woman. I am not in favor of transitioning to another gender and believe you are born the way you should be BUT she did go through it all and I think if you do the bottom surgery and what have you, you can use the pronoun. And be referred to as a Trans-woman.

But having said that, what makes someone snap like that.

Calling him "she" is only a matter of courtesy r138, what with him being a biological male with biological male violent tendencies and I don't feel like extending that courtesy to a triple murderer.

Regardless of which surgeries Rivers got, there are people who use SRS to refer to boob jobs, not the genital surgery

[quote]But having said that, what makes someone snap like that.

You already answered that question, R138. Trans are by definition deeply disturbed.

People with neo vaginas are always a bit incontinent. This is the main reason why transwomen choose not to chop off their dick. They just shrink it and hope the het men they sleep with will be content with anal sex.

r142 is right, this guy botched one tranny so badly she finally killed herself after all the incontinence and constant infections.

It could be the most perfectly "sculpted" front hole ever, the most convincing boob job and Adam's apple removal but these confused creatures will NEVER be a "she."

Search "Dana Rivers-- Female". He's being held as a woman in a women's prison. Goddamn them!

UGH! DOUBLE UGH!

r145 I bet some of those actual, cis dykes won't take too kindly to Dana and I know that chicks can be way fucking meaner than dudes. We'll see how he fares with them.

"...and I know that chicks can be way fucking meaner than dudes."

Actually... no. For example, they don't usually do things like-- oh, let me think, let me think-- MURDER THREE PEOPLE with guns and knives, then set their home on fire as they're gasping for their last breaths, then attempt to flee, covered in blood, on a stolen motorcycle while brandishing steel knuckles.

But yeah, I'm sure the "dykes" will be just fine. *massive eye roll*

Erotica by Dana

r149 Taboo age play? Wow. They made the right call in firing this fucker.

it might also be a plagiarist, based on the reviews

Oh dear god in heaven this thread was a disgusting, disappointing mess. I miss the DL threads about mocking Mitchfest. They were at least somewhat clever and insightful in their trans-bashing. (Ha!)

But let's not take this tragic event to pretend to act like you all even give a good goddamn about the family that was brutally murdered because really we all know this was just an excuse to froth at the mouth about trannies and their insanely high rates of murder, arson, jaywalking and general psychopathy across the board.

Thank fuck she wasn't black because I would then be having the pleasure of reading a thread in the spirit of "APE-LIKE MAN DRESSED AS WOMAN KILLS LESBIAN FAMILY", followed by 200+ posts about how no one is surprised because black men are generally known to be the most violent group of people and highest perpetrators of crime this side of the solar system despite all the BLM malarkey and bullshit statistics of black transwomen being murdered and general victimization they clamor on about. Thank fuck for that.

Don't get me twisted. That creature deserves absolutely no sympathy. I hope they give her ass the death penalty. But the difference is I'm calling Rivers a creature because she FUCKING MURDERED A FAMILY, not because I have an almost psychotic obsession with hating trannies like 98% of the diseased vermin in here.

What is taboo age play. Because I am not clicking on one of her books.

Looks like adult baby fetish stuff.

Yeah, I clicked on "Lori's Big Day", here's the description:

"Lori's Big Day (Taboo Age Play Erotic Romance)

Eighteen year old Lori loved being the Man of House's special little one. She loved being surrounded by the warm clean scent of powder, diapers, and a strong man's firm hand. But today was different. Today they would be going out. Can Lori still be a good girl when she's tested by her strong and dominating Man of the House?"

And the list of similar books are all tagged ABDL, which I just learned stands for Adult Baby Diaper Lover. *shudder*

I see what you mean, R155.

[quote]Alexis has been an upstanding student all throughout college yet he just can't for the life of him gain the attentions of the illustrious Professor Hunter. And it is driving him crazy. But soon he is given the golden opportunity to become the Professor's favorite pet. But can he handle the terms of the offer? Diapers. Spankings. And the firm, demanding hand of the educated and powerful man.

"Diapers, spankings" <-- JFC.

If this is the same person, this is possibly one of the WORST people that could ever consider themselves part of [italic]any[/italic] community.

I can't even imagine what Lisa Vogel (the founder of Michfest) is going through right now.

I take a night class with a guy who worked with one of the victims.

This is why trump won

Well r159, I hope Trump does one good thing and protects actual women by taking MtT's out of women's prisons, but I'm not counting on it.

I haven't heard of any FtT's demanding to go to men's prisons. Make a separate facility for the whole lot of them, so no one else has to deal with them.

r160, I saw the separate facility suggested elsewhere. Know what the jezzies said? They hoped that the MtT were separate from the FtM because men can be dangerous. GUESS how much irony they saw in saying that?

In case I wasn't clear and because you are likely not insane, let me make sure you get that they were worried about the 5ft FtM's raping and beating the 6ft MtF's. Because men are violent.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Another "woman" in the news.

R164 That story is FUCKED up!!!

People are going to read the headline, and think it's a woman. Or, if they read the article, they will think "I am sick of this gay stuff."

Is arson a thing with them, too? I remember the case of a transsexual who burned a building down, killing a fireman.

Why has the gay community allowed these gross straight men with fetishes allowed in?? These trannies are obsessed with lesbians and hate lesbians more than right wing conservatives. This unfortunately is going to happen more given the rhetoric that real lesbians are evil for not wanting their penis.

r168 there are transgender people-they do exist. It's just that they are in much smaller numbers than the current media coverage would suggest. The news has turned into a fetid, clickbait cesspool. They are pushing this as an issue because it is tentpole clickbait, i.e. it gets a wide cross-section of the public angry for different reasons, thus guaranteeing high page hits.

The fetishists have, like the SJWs, jumped on this cause in order to heighten their own SM profiles to make them look popular and important. A small minority of the autogynophiles are also using this as a chance for sexual gratification and general harrassment of women.

In the beginning, before people really understood the difference between gender and sexual orientation, genuine Ts were lumped in with the LGBs because they were seen as drag queens, who are e-fem gay men. It made sense that a) they needed protection and an advocacy group, and b) this was the best place for them.

Now that transgender has become the new autism, it makes no sense to have them with us. I do feel sorry for all the genuine Ts who are trapped in the middle of all this bullshit.

You're right r169. I've spoken here before about two trans women I know who are both horrified beyond belief at how things are going. They both have lived for a long time completely as women since their twenties, now one is 60 something the other 50 something.

They both accept that they are not biological women and have made peace with that. They both accept that the problem is in their head not their physicality. They both have walked a hard road, lost jobs and been disowned.

They both have never experienced hatred and threats like they have in the past two years, all from other trans. They are attacked as "tru scum", they have been doxxed and have both been put in fear for their lives by crazies that don't like being told the truth. Men cannot become women. They both don't understand why this is now being taught as gospel that you are whatever you say you are regardless of reality and anyone who doesn't want to be forced to play along is a bigot.

If you are truly dysphoric the best you can hope for is some measure of comfort from living as a woman but that isn't a cure all. A very small number are truly dysphoric. The majority are autogynephile and that is NOT the same thing. The autogynephiles are just plain old fetishists and they've tricked the public into thinking it's OK for them to impose their fetish on other people and force them to take part.

The transtapo grayed out OP. More proof that they are aptly named.

She told them THEN so she wouldn't have to tell them NOW!

Any updates?

If Rivers had been killed-- for any reason whatsoever-- it would have been a "hate crime." But it's never a hate crime when women/lesbians are murdered. It's just business as usual.

Exactly r174. When a trans is exposed as a violent criminal it's all about "the most important thing is to be imprisoned in the prison that matches gender presentation for this poor soul who has been driven to extreme action by a transphobic society". For the victims? Crickets.

This thread has me thinking about the Michfest dykes.

Yes, they were kooky, but all they really wanted was a little patch of land for a few days to be left alone from men and all their bullshit.

The disturbed individuals from DL who would go onto Michfest message boards to troll, mock, and harass them should be ashamed. Then there were the actual trannies who went to the MichFest to talk about how much fun it is to use their penises in sex abuse workshops to harass vulnerable women.

If women in general (and lesbians specifically) don't stand up to trannies, they should be prepared to have yet another set of MEN take away their rights and lives.

[quote] Now that transgender has become the new autism, it makes no sense to have them with us. I do feel sorry for all the genuine Ts who are trapped in the middle of all this bullshit.

T has been used as an excuse to effectively sterilize people on the autism spectrum.

r176 Me too. I'm missing Michfest now so I don't have to miss it then. In fairness though, people here were mocking but not in a mean way, I don't know what they did on the boards but here it was just lovingly making fun of nutloaf recipes and fat womon on garbage detail. Now that Michfest is gone it makes me very wistful. They were fucking right!

[quote]fat womon on garbage detail

lol. And yes, they were right.

The world is getting darker by the moment. It's so much worse than 20 years ago

This POS is another dangerous predator - registered sex offender as juv, then changed name and gender.

This blog has new details

Way back machine contains this gem

danarivers.net

Anyone met Rivers? All over in 2000...

But...But...R183, how can it be? The page, created by Dana, says "activist", but the Ts say it aint so.

Fuck this fetid front hole.

From r183's link I love the pic of Leather Tuscadero.

Not sure if you've heard but there's been a change to the Canadian Human Rights Commission

[quote]This enactment amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression constitutes an aggravating circumstance that a court must take into consideration when it imposes a sentence.

Referring to someone with the wrong pronoun constitutes a hate crime. Google Jordan Peterson for more info about this since he's notorious for refusing to accept preferred pronouns at the the University of Toronto.

So this means that a straight man can accuse me of a hate crime if I refer to him as "she"?

R186 it means a straight man can accuse you of a hate crime if you refer to him as "he".

The trans need to rein in their abusive "activists"ie. trolls, and stop them promoting hatred and inciting violence against lesbians eg "Die in a fire terf!" "Kill a terf!" etc. It was utterly predictable that it would start happening in real life.

It would "start" happening? R188

Here's a long list of "trans women" who have already attacked or murdered real women.

r186, we have an excellent thread about Peterson:

The mind boggles

Spread this info, part I

Share this info, part II

Part III, people need to know this info

Crimes by T just in 2016

Thanks for links R189 . Yeah I've been aware that MtTs attack women but not so certain if any or how many have been specifically motivated by the "Kill a terf!" mentality.

Environmental activist Lierre Keith confirms: "The two murdered women were MichFest sisters."

Funny how the motive is a complete "mystery". I guess it's mere coincidence that he's a Camp Trans activist who just happened to go into a murderous rage and kill two (real) lesbian Mich Fest women and their son.

I guess the only good thing I can say is that the boy will never have to go to brother Gulag camp again...

Being forced to play non-competitive Frisbee is not *quite* as horrific as being stabbed to death, r199.

Heterosexuals are scum, plain and simple.

R201 was the murderer straight? I can't remember if he claimed to be a lesbian or not.

yes, he was a straight male who sometimes claimed bi

Most Ts are straight males.

Thanks r203. Sick fuck (him, not you).

Oh look, someone's trying to grey out the OP. I wonder why that is.

Let's bump this. Any news on this fucking creep?

I just did a quick search for "Dana Rivers" and nothing shows up since he was charged with the murder in mid-November. I assume he'll need to file his plea next, right?

HOw much you wanna bet this murderer of women will be jailed with women?

Where is the lesbian press?

I'm a gay guy, so I seriously don't know and have to ask. Back in the day, gay media like The Advocate at least covered a few stories by/for lesbians. Now, it's just gay men and trans. Too bad. This is a compelling story that really should be reported.

R210, the Indigo Girls, who owe their decades long career to lesbians, boycotted MichFest and participated in the Transparent show that compared rad fems with nazis.

All lesbians and allies should in turn boycott the Indigo Girls. Let the transbians buy their records and concert tickets.

r211 Seriously? Those fucking cunts! I used to love them.

Yes, r212.

I wonder what they think of Dana Rivers, their fellow MichFest hater.

Such hypocrites. For all of their fake activism...they wasted no time throwing women and girls under the tranny bus.

We should put them out of business. Just like they did MichFest

Burn in hell Dana Rivers!

[quote][R210], the Indigo Girls, who owe their decades long career to lesbians, boycotted MichFest and participated in the Transparent show that compared rad fems with nazis.

Now I can finally admit I can't stand Judith Light in anything where she's not the villain. She's like one of those women whose pussies freeze men's dicks off, or like your least favorite person at the synagogue.

I'm curious. Rivers was arrested on the same night he killed them, and confessed to police. What's the point of delaying every step of the legal process since then? It's been well over a year now. Does playing up "mentally unfit for court", better his chances of Not Guilty by reason insanity? Or is he hoping to wait until people have cooled down their anger, grief and shock, for jury reasons?

Good question r216. I can't see any possible defense here. I'm guessing the courts just can't figure out WTF to do with Rivers once convicted so they're dragging their feet for that reason.

This will be a very messy case once it goes to trial that will open up a huge Pandora's Box that I think a lot of people would prefer stay closed. That's very unfair to the victims and their families but I doubt they have the money or power to do much about it.

Maybe they're considering an insanity defense.

Oh I assumed all along he'd be going for "NG:RI". What else has he got? Are there any elections coming up? I ask because maybe the fact that with multiple murder, he qualifies under "special circumstances" to possibly face a death penalty. Is anyone running with a policy of banning capital punishment? Could his defence be delaying with this in mind?

Sorry, that, R219, was me, R216.

[quote] Maybe they're considering an insanity defense.

They better reject that. He knew damn well what he was doing.

Update.

CBS: Transgender Activist Ordered To Stand Trial For Oakland Triple Murder

A transgender activist and former teacher was ordered Wednesday to stand trial on three counts of murder for the shooting and stabbing deaths of a teenage man and two women in East Oakland in November 2016.

Rivers, a former Sacramento schoolteacher, gained national attention when she had a sex change operation and became a woman in the 1990s.

In addition to the three murder charges, at the end of a preliminary hearing Alameda County Superior Court Judge Allan Hymer ordered Rivers to face a jury on the special circumstance allegation that she committed multiple murders and on charges of arson of an inhabited structure or property and possession of metal knuckles.

She’s accused of killing 19-year-old Toto M. Diambu, who was also known as Benny Diambu Wright, 57-year-old Patricia Wright and 56-year-old Charlotte Reed.

Dana Rivers, 63, of San Jose, is scheduled to return to Alameda County Superior Court on March 21 to have her trial date set...

A motive for the three homicides wasn’t disclosed during Rivers’ preliminary hearing but prosecutors said it will be revealed at her trial, which may not take place for several years since she could face the death penalty and the attorneys in the case need time to prepare...

[the shooting and stabbing deaths of a teenage man and two women...]

Odd wording. How about "the shooting and stabbing deaths of two women and their teenage son" or a "married couple and their teenage son" rather than making them sound like they are all random people.

And "teenage man"?

[quote]A motive for the three homicides wasn’t disclosed during Rivers’ preliminary hearing but prosecutors said it will be revealed at her trial, which may not take place for several years since she could face the death penalty and the attorneys in the case need time to prepare...

Wow, it's like they're shelving the trial to protect him and by extension the T movement from the bad press they deserve. If I ever murder three people in a violent homicidal rage and face the death penalty I'll have to remember to use the Trans Plea because that'll apparently buy me "several years" before I even have to stand trial. SMDH

Justice for Benny, Patricia, and Charlotte!

This is disgusting OP. No different than racist trolls on Fox who try to give as much publicity to every murder of a white person by a black person as possible to increase racial hatred in the world. No different than someone trying to elevate stories of young gay men on drugs or living on the streets. A truly morally bankrupt person you are OP. It's never too late to change but you are doing evil work trying to increase hatred and drag people a part. I sincerely hope you see that one day.

r226 WTF are you talking about? Are you aware these murders happened 16 months ago and got virtually no press coverage or publicity even at the time they happened? Since then the case has been delayed at every turn until last Wed. with Dana Rivers finally being ordered to stand trial for the murders but now even that might take a few more years. Where's the justice in that?

I'm really not seeing the hateful voices trying to divide people that only seem to exist in your own head.

These two innocent women who were also part of the GLBT community themselves were brutally murdered along with their young son.

Did you miss the part that they were LESBIANS and, if you read between the lines, they were also MichFest participants where Rivers was one of the transwomen protesters demanding to be let in and angry because they were denied by bio women? It will be very interesting to see what sort of motive the defense attorney can spin out of that.

In what possible way can you compare this to racist trolls on Fox who try to give as much publicity to every murder of a white person by a black person as possible to increase racial hatred?

Neither mainstream media or GTBT media want to touch this with a ten foot pole and I suspect r224 has the correct reason why.

So now he's been ordered to stand trial, what penalties are available in California for a man like him? A man who beats up, stabs, shoots and kills a family of three, then tries to burn down their home with their bodies inside.

[quote]And "teenage man"?

Media/PR spin. "Man" elicits far less public knee-jerk sympathy, is not as emotionally manipulative as "son", "boy" or "child".

Nevermind, I've been told that multiple murder puts his offences within "Special Circumstances", meaning he could face death penalty. Or, I assume, the rest of his poxy life in a prison.

Now watch Twanztastic activists spin this as evil cis-lesbian terfs deliberately "provoking" poor vulnerable twanz girl , therefore deserving to be shot & stabbed, and can now be blamed by everyone on the Right Side Of History for the tragic death of a trans woman!

Not sure whether the arraignment hearing scheduled for March 21 took place. There's nothing in the news about it. I used the Alameda County Inmate Locator to find that an "Attorney and Plea Hearing" will happen on April 16 at the Alameda County Courthouse. I hope soon there will be justice for Benny, Patricia, and Charlotte.

Plea Hearing for Dana Rivers at 9am on Monday, April 16. These are the charges:

PC1170(H)(3)-F tSPEC ALLEG-NOTICE OF STATE PRISON ELIGI PC1192.7(C)(23)-F tSERIOUS FLNY/PERSONALLY USED A DANGEROU PC12022.5(A)-F tSPEC ALLEG-USE OF FIREARM (12022.5 & 12 PC12022.53(B)-F tSPEC ALLEG-PERSONAL USE OF A FIREARM PC12022.53(C)-F tSPEC ALLEG-PERSONAL AND INTENTIONAL DIS PC12022.53(D)-F tSPEC ALLEG-PERSONAL AND INTENTIONAL DIS PC12022.7(A)-F tSPEC ALLEG-GREAT BODILY INJURY PC12022(B)(1)-F tSPEC ALLEG-USE OF DEADLY WEAPON PC187(A)-F tMURDER PC187(A)-664(A)-F tWILLFUL, DELIBERATE, PREMEDITATED ATTEM PC190.2(A)(3)-F tSPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE - MULTIPLE MURDER PC21810-F tPOSSESSION OF METAL KNUCKLES PC451(B)-F tARSON OF AN INHABITED STRUCTURE OR PROP

I'd appreciate any local news updates at all about the case after the hearing. The mainstream media is keeping eerily silent about this vicious triple murder and arson.