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Fatal Attraction revisited

I'm watching this on Netflix and, my god, Glenn Close was a sexual animal in this. In their sex scenes she looks insatiable, like she's going to literally eat him. At least that's what it seems like to me. She even looks like an animal with that 80's perm, like a lioness.

She was perfect for that role.

by Anonymousreply 21909/07/2017

Vagina dentata personified.

by Anonymousreply 111/14/2012

A lioness! Delightful! That must explain why she chewed the scenery and shit in public.

by Anonymousreply 211/14/2012

Agree R1. She was almost like a succubus and drained his energy. Every time he was with her he came away spent physically and emotionally. No one could keep up with that.

by Anonymousreply 311/14/2012

r3, you just described what it is like to be with a psychopath.

by Anonymousreply 411/14/2012

she's like that in real life

by Anonymousreply 511/14/2012

Glen's sister is schizophrenic....she grew up with Alex.

Anne Archer was so twee.

by Anonymousreply 611/14/2012

Anne Archer has a huge flatulence problem

by Anonymousreply 711/14/2012

Anne Archer was gorgeous!

by Anonymousreply 811/14/2012

[quote]A lioness! Delightful! That must explain why she chewed the scenery and shit in public.

Yes, because the script required subtlety. The writing wasn't over the top, it was Glenn's acting.

Got it.

by Anonymousreply 911/14/2012

Hello! A lioness is going to GET RESPECT and NOT BE IGNORED, DAN!

by Anonymousreply 1011/14/2012

Whom did Glenn lose the Oscar to? Jodie Foster, wasn't it?

by Anonymousreply 1111/15/2012

The scene of Alex turning the light on and off WAS chilling.

by Anonymousreply 1211/15/2012

[quote]Glen's sister is schizophrenic

Actually she's bipolar. And it's "Glenn".

by Anonymousreply 1311/15/2012

Adrian Lyne really wanted to emphasize the physical look and manner of the character. He is such an incredible director!

"You know what you are, Dan? You're a COCK. SUCKING. SON of a BITCH! You are. I hate you. You deserve everything you get."

by Anonymousreply 1411/15/2012

She lost to Cher.

by Anonymousreply 1511/15/2012

This movie set off a tragic outbreak of bad perms across the country.

by Anonymousreply 1611/15/2012

Surprised nobody ever saw fit to compare Carrie Bradshaw to Alex Forrest since both were New York single ladies and the spitting image of each other.

by Anonymousreply 1711/15/2012

Glenn's performance is wonderful--still thrilling to watch. But the rest of the movie is just not equal in quality.

by Anonymousreply 1811/15/2012

I wouldn`t go that far, R18. The little boy was pretty good when he discovers the rabbit is no longer in its hutch.

by Anonymousreply 1911/15/2012

And I agree that her hairstyle is ridiculously dated. But her stylish white wardrobe, and small-scale jewelry, and make-up are spot on. She's rarely looked more attractive in a movie.

by Anonymousreply 2011/15/2012

She was better than Cher was in that insipid film MOONSTRUCK.

by Anonymousreply 2111/15/2012

The little boy was a little girl, although she was weirdly androgynous. Cher's win was absurd that year, especially since this performance was soooo much better. Anne Archer went to my school, a small girls' school, and was either senior class president or student body pres - can't remember - and she always buttoned the top button of our uniforms and no one else ever did, except me. She wouldn't know me if I bit her, but I always felt we were some kind of prude compadres.

by Anonymousreply 2211/15/2012

she always gave me prudish feelings.

Yes, the LIttle uh, "girl" was a weird tom-boy, what was THAT all about?

by Anonymousreply 2311/15/2012

Glenn had a nice tan line on her tits.

by Anonymousreply 2411/15/2012

R19, that was a little girl. She was also in Christmas Vacation.

by Anonymousreply 2511/15/2012

Didn't that little girl grow up to make a video recently where she told Republicans who didn't share her videos to, in her words, "Get the FUCK off the internet"?

I always knew how she'd turn out, tha manly little girl. . .

by Anonymousreply 2611/15/2012

Jesus, how on earth did Cher ever win an Academy Award? And for Moonstruck at that?

by Anonymousreply 2711/16/2012

But of course my dear-heart Cher won because of her friendship and mentorship with ME, the only good thing to come from Silkwood's nuclear waste. By the by, even Stucci, my pet name for my love Stan Tucci, agrees that my oldest pits are more luscious than Glenn's ripest fruits, which have sunk so low they're speaking Spanish.

by Anonymousreply 2811/16/2012

Cher winning over Glenn that year was bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 2911/16/2012

Cher winning over any of the other four nominees that year was bullshit. The other women nominated that year, according to Wiki, were Glenn Close (Fatal Attraction), Holly Hunter (Broadcast News), Sally Kirkland (Anna) and Meryl Streep (Ironweed).

Close, Hunter and Streep all gave much better performances than Cher. I've never seen Anna but even Kirkland can't have been as pedestrian as Cher was in Moonstruck. I wonder what the voters were smoking that year when they voted for Cher.

by Anonymousreply 3011/16/2012

R18, it's a combination of Glenn Close's performance and Lyne's direction that elevate this just beyond B-movie pulp.

I remember seeing it on a weeknight, I think the Tuesday after it opened, at Chicago's Biograph cinema with a sold-out audience and it was like a heart-stopping roller coaster ride. Probably the only time I felt like I was watching a movie with the ENTIRE audience - we were all terrible anxious and quiet at the same time and all jumped out of our seats at the same time.

It's easy to forget the impact it had because it's been copied (and indirectly remade) so many times since it first appeared in 1987 and also ushered in some incredibly dark social undertones to male/female relations as well as capturing the zeitgeist of sexual unease that had finally occurred to conservative heterosexuals in the age of AIDS. Regardless of what the it owes to Henri-Georges Cluzot's Diabolique in its final passage, Lyne packed in many solid, visceral, heart-thumping thrills prior to that in the film, thrills that were emotionally connected to our anxiety over the ease of betrayal...or the adrenaline rush that ran through the bodies of those of us who had been betrayed and thrilled to see our revenge fantasies played out on the big screen.

by Anonymousreply 3111/16/2012

You'd think my bare ass could get one mention on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 3211/16/2012

Adrian Lyne is such a genius, world class director. I can watch Nine and a Half Weeks, Unfaithful, Fatal Attraction, Indecent Proposal and its always like my first time.

by Anonymousreply 3311/16/2012

When it came out I was working at a company full of Type A males, and that movie scared the crap of them like nothing I've seen before or since. They discussed it endlessly for weeks, and I really do think it changed the culture of the office a bit.

Every one of them looked at that movie and realized it could happen to them, and several of the women in the office were instantly categorized as potential bunny boilers.

by Anonymousreply 3411/16/2012

I don't know, I love Moonstruck and Cher's performance was really endearing.

I think Fatal Attraction holds up well. Glenn looked really good, even the perm was flattering and she was a real beast in the sex scenes. I think she was really trying to overcome her somewhat patrician, yankee persona, and damn did she ever. Considering it was the 80's even the clothes looked good. Anne Archer was gorgeous but as someone else stated twee is the perfect word for her performance, I remember the critics really liked her though. The cinematography was typical of a Lyne film with the overuse of haze, still it looked modern and well produced. I just wish they stayed with the original tragic ending of Alex killing herself and setting Michael Douglas's character up as the murderer but I guess it didn't test well with audiences.

by Anonymousreply 3511/16/2012

Audiences wanted a clear sense of who to root for, because most movie audiences are simply not sophisticated enough to deal with ambiguous characters. If the original suicide ending had remained, I think Dan's colossal failure would have been far more evident and audiences would have looked on him with scorn for bringing this harpy down on his family. However, with the ending they had it made Dan seem like a hero saving the godly American family from the queer threat. As gay men naturally most of us gravitate toward the original ending with Alex killing herself. Glenn Close shares our feelings but only a minority audience could appreciate something as harrowing as that. As people have commented, the melodrama of the changed ending made the film more of a stylized piece.

by Anonymousreply 3611/16/2012

This is how I'd respond to anybody who dared to say that Cher deserved that Oscar over Glenn:

by Anonymousreply 3711/16/2012

I totally rooted for Glenn. It was the typical woman-stand-by-your-man-no-matter-what-he-does bullshit in terms of the wife.

Bunnies. Boiling!

by Anonymousreply 3811/16/2012

I wish Adrian Lyne would do a gay movie thriller next.

by Anonymousreply 3911/16/2012

The party scene and the office scene make publishing look so glamorous. And Alex's apartment in the Meatpacking District--with the now cliche freight elevator--was beyond chic to this gayling in the Ohio suburbs.

by Anonymousreply 4011/16/2012

It was also the typical it's-always-the-woman's-fault bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 4111/16/2012

R30, Cher totally deserved the Oscar for Moonstruck, as did Shanley and Dukakis. It's a terrific film and was a big hit. In order to understand how Cher actually won it, you have to look at everything that came before it and ignore everything she did after.

by Anonymousreply 4211/16/2012

Well, the movie's adamned classic, and Glenn definitely deserves the lion's share of recognition, altho, I do have to praise Michael Douglas.

Back then, I didn't realize this characterization would be a type he would use with variations for years. The moral ambiguous, smart-assed, smug, guy who gets his ass handed to him.

I love to watch this, and I love A Perfect Murder. Michael plays these guys so well. They are also variations on his Gordon Gekko. I mean, I can see all three characters doing the things any one of them is doing in each film. If that makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 4311/16/2012

I remember watching this at a theatre in Washington, D.C. in a very mixed audience, and the Black folk in the theatre started talking back to the screen. It was exhilerating. I felt that oneness with the audience, too.

We were all on the edge of our seats, and when some guy said, "Awe man, you better tell your wife, man..." etc. it was so fun. I can't remember watching a movie at a theatre that was so unifying. I felt like we were all friends with the same guy.

by Anonymousreply 4411/16/2012

"Moonstruck" was just a piece of disposable fluff, as was Cher's performance. It was NOT Oscar caliber. I saw both Cher and Glenn Close's performances and Glenn's was definitely superior to Cher's. Cher's win was just another weird, undeserved Oscar win. There have been many (Whoopi Goldberg, Halle Berry, Tatum O'Neal, Grace Kelly, Marisa Tomei, Gwyneth Paltrow, Nicole Kidman, Juliette Binoche).

by Anonymousreply 4511/16/2012

I loved Glenn's apartment in the Meat Packing District, which at the time was still a pretty sketchy neighborhood, nothing like it is now. That apartment would cost a fortune today.

by Anonymousreply 4611/16/2012

Yes but Glenn's apt was also realistic not over stylized catalog or condo porn.

by Anonymousreply 4711/16/2012

That's true, r47. Back then, Hollywood set designers still did realistic apartments/homes. Today, everything looks like it's out of Architectural Digest, no matter what the character's socioeconomic status is. And don't even get me started on movies/ tv shows set in NYC. It's hilarious how unrealistic almost every apartment is on movies and TV shows.

by Anonymousreply 4811/16/2012

Actually the suicide ending would have made more sense to me as unstable she was and remember her fascination with Madame Butterfly.

by Anonymousreply 4911/16/2012

Ugh, the suicide ending might make sense in theory but if you've seen it you'll know it activates Anne Archer's character and gives her more screen time. There are plenty of loose ends because of the re-written ending and they remain in the final cut. It all hinges on the cassette (?!) tape Alex gives Dan. It's neither interesting in a technological or emotional way and Dan still gets off scott-free and Alex is still dead.

by Anonymousreply 5011/16/2012

I remember at the time thinking her perm wasn't all that flattering and that Glenn was kinda ugly.

by Anonymousreply 5111/16/2012

There was a whole mysterious subplot with Alex's father who died of a heart attack in front of her when she was 6 - I think he sexually abused her.

by Anonymousreply 5211/16/2012

It's all about AIDS

by Anonymousreply 5311/16/2012

She was perfect in Dangerous Liaisons.

by Anonymousreply 5411/16/2012

The best performance was Holly Hunter (Broadcast News).

That was one of the rare times that an actress would sweep all four critic awards (NY & LA, National Board and National Society) and not win the Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 5511/16/2012

Here is the original ending to Fatal Attraction.

Test audiences **HATED IT** and TPTB had to do a re-shoot

Glenn refuses to do the re-shoot calling it a betrayal (her word) to the character. That she would kill herself, instead of being psycho.

For two weeks she fought it, until finally she relented when the studio said they wouldn't release the film until she did the re-shoot.

by Anonymousreply 5611/16/2012

Yea that ending kind of sucked. I like the Alex as psycho stalker ending better.

by Anonymousreply 5711/16/2012

Eww! That ending was a little over the top! I mean the whole movie was, but Christ, Ann Archer running along side the police car mouth-ing, "I love you, I wanna go with you!" sixty times, and then weeping as she listens to the tape, and then Glenn. You know what? I agree with Glenn. This was a kind of horror movie but that ending deserved to be on the proverbial cutting room floor.

by Anonymousreply 5811/16/2012

Operator!!! I've been trying to get 555-8129. 212.... recording says it's been disconnected???!

by Anonymousreply 5911/16/2012

Why didn't Lyne just COMBINE the two endings - have Alex attack the family home, wound Beth, get into a fight with Dan, run off back to her apartment then kill herself, then Dan get arrested for her murder?

by Anonymousreply 6011/16/2012


by Anonymousreply 6111/16/2012

Unfortunately the suicide ending played to the worst side of Anne Archer

by Anonymousreply 6211/16/2012

I LOVE how naturally the beginning of the affair played out. He notices her at the party, just because she stands out and gives his friend a dirty look. He might think she's hot, but really no intent to do anything. They had a brief flirtation during the office meeting, (the cream cheese on the nose scene) but that's it. They weren't expecting anything at that time either. They run into each other on the street, run out of the rain and get a drink.

During the restaurant scene, the possibility of hooking up is becoming more real, but it's still not a sure thing. But, they are truly intrigued by each other, not only looks, but conversation, personality.

And, then it shifts to Alex making her indirect proposal, and Dan jumps at the chance - because as far as an affair is concerned, it makes perfect sense. He didn't go looking for this, his wife is away, and he honestly believes this will be a "one and done". Even when he meets her the next day, he believes there's nothing more to it.

And, that's why it probably caused a lot of guys to pause. A lot of guys telling themselves that they're not Neanderthals, they don't go out aggressively hitting on women to cheat with their wife. But, they know that if they had an opportunity like Dan's, one they didn't go looking for, they'd do it.

by Anonymousreply 6311/16/2012

I love Glenn in this. I really wasn't rooting for her overall, though she made some good points about being thrown away during her and Dan's walk and talk.

Her line delivery's are great and so are her crazy shift in emotions. "Well, Fuck YOU!!" is a great one as someone pointed out. Something everyone says, but the timing and one are perfect, and of course, "I'm not going to be ignooored, Dan."

Someone upthread said gays were all on Alex's side? I distinctly remember feeling for her at first, but then she went over the line in my mind, so I didn't want her to "win." But at the same time, I never wanted it to work out well for Dan, I just wasn't sympathetic towards him. And, finally, I didn't root for Beth Gallagher, either.

by Anonymousreply 6411/16/2012

Was she really pregnant or just using it as a ploy. I was always fuzzy on that.

by Anonymousreply 6511/16/2012

I think that's something they forgot to address r65. Since she offered Dan the card of her doctor, I assumed she was.

by Anonymousreply 6611/16/2012

There were some really honest beautiful scenes in this movie despite which elevates it to an Oscar caliber movie. The scene wear Dan sees Beth applying her makeup and just completely melting at the site of her..really genuine chemistry and sets up Archer as the perfect wife, who you really actually like. Also the scene of little Ellen rehearsing for her play and Dan watching in the background and realizing how bad he fucked everything up and how much he loves his family. Both scenes are really heartfelt.

by Anonymousreply 6711/16/2012

I like the cinematography- I love the scene when Alex is creeping around their new home in the dark. Beautifully shot.

by Anonymousreply 6811/16/2012

The rollercoaster ride in the fog is also great

by Anonymousreply 6911/16/2012

[quote]my god, Glenn Close was a sexual animal in this. In their sex scenes she looks insatiable

These are words I never needed to see. Night terrors will follow.

by Anonymousreply 7011/16/2012

r70 - piss off Meryl. You think you're masturbating over Clint Eastwood in the bath tub was any less repulsive?

by Anonymousreply 7111/16/2012

What do you think of Glenn's hair on the cover of TIME?

by Anonymousreply 7211/17/2012

I do chuckle at how Douglas made himself into some sort of homme fatale by pairing up with some of the most talented and lovely leading ladies like Glenn, Kathleen Turner, Demi Moore, Sharon Stone and Annette Bening, when in reality, he has never been much to look at.

by Anonymousreply 7311/17/2012

I never thought Alex was in the right in any way. She knew he was married, it was she who approached him, and she assured him that it was only a fling and that she'd be discreet about it. If they really wanted Dan to wrong her he should have hit on her and lied about his wife.

by Anonymousreply 7411/17/2012

Dan slept with her twice. For some people, the physical act trumps any declarations of resistance.

by Anonymousreply 7511/17/2012

He slept with her twice on the terms that she established -- that it wasn't a love affair, just a weekend fling.

by Anonymousreply 7611/17/2012

But during that lunch they had together at her apartment, he said "I don't think it's possible to continue this." Alex was wistful/depressed and said "Just my luck" - cut to them just having had sex again.

To her that was the deal-breaker.

by Anonymousreply 7711/17/2012

r74, the point I got was that there was something mentally wrong with her, but he didn't find out until he was in over his head.

by Anonymousreply 7811/17/2012

Lyne's directing is top notch. There is just an air of suspense that hangs over practically every frame.

The bathtub ending ruined the movie. Close was right in not wanting to film it. It cost her the oscar, as well as prevented the film from winning best picture.

Speaking of which, has anyone actually ever watched THE LAST EMPEROR? It swept the oscars that year, yet you never hear about it or even see it on cable.

by Anonymousreply 7911/17/2012

I really liked the ending. I almost crapped myself when she popped back up out of the bathtub.

by Anonymousreply 8011/17/2012

Cher won because it was her year. She had been snubbed for MASK, and turned in a decent nominated peformance in SILKWOOD. MOONSTRUCK was a big hit that year as was WITCHES OF EASTWICK and SUSPECT. There was a sense that Cher was truly coming into her own as an actress and that she was going to be on the level of a Streep and Lange. Close and her had the biggest momentum going into the race, but Cher had the more family friendly film so to speak.

Holly Hunter did minimal press to promote BROADCAST NEWS, which no doubt hurt her chances. Cindy Adams in particular took to her column to complain about how rude Hunter was to the press. And then you had Sally Kirkland......

by Anonymousreply 8111/17/2012

Here's the Musical version - it really accentuates the campy appeal of the movie:

by Anonymousreply 8211/17/2012

r19.. it was a girl.. called Ellen

for years i thought there were calling him Allen..

by Anonymousreply 8311/17/2012

I don't know if you noticed this, but the Gallaghers inherited Kim Basinger's apartment from 9 and a Half Weeks, the one where she and Mickey had their infamous food sex scene.

I wonder if they used the same fridge?

by Anonymousreply 8411/17/2012

That is no excuse r81. Oscars should be awarded to real actors who demonstrate their craft in a profound and artistic sense, not superficial entertainers for the masses.

by Anonymousreply 8511/17/2012

That was really the problem - if Beth had been as sexually adventurous as the previous tenants, Dan wouldn't have had an affair.

by Anonymousreply 8611/17/2012

I love all the posts about the little boy.

[quote]for years i thought there were calling him Allen..

You guys are soooo bad.

by Anonymousreply 8711/17/2012

Again Holly Hunter SWEPT all four major critics awards, and went home empty handed.

by Anonymousreply 8811/17/2012

[quote]I don't know, I love Moonstruck and Cher's performance was really endearing.

I agree. I don't get why people have to shit on Cher and "Moonstruck" to justify why they think Close deserved the Oscar. Maybe she did, but really, what difference does it make? Close was good, Cher was's a crap shoot and based greatly on popularity anyway.

by Anonymousreply 8911/18/2012

Seriously, people? I can't fish one compliment out of you about my buttocks?

by Anonymousreply 9011/18/2012

When you consider that back then the voters were mostly geriatrics then you can understand why Moonstruck won. I agree with R89, but Fatal Attraction took people way out of their comfort zones and gave us a fresh, disturbing take in infidelity.

They were both outstanding movies for their genre, but Cher winning for Moonstruck was predictable given who voted. AMPAS still skews older, but it has benefited from invoting more & more younger artists as voting members in the past 8 years.

by Anonymousreply 9111/18/2012

Glenn Close's hair in this is the only time that awful frizzy perm hairstyle that was everywhere in the 80s actually looked good.

by Anonymousreply 9211/18/2012

I loved this movie but for the obvious casting flaw being Ms. Close...should have been Sally Field.

by Anonymousreply 9311/18/2012

Sally Field would have been interesting as the henpecking wife. Then the affair would have been even more believable.

"Did you have an affair with her?"" "Yes." "What it's got to do with what's happened?" "She's pregnant." "OH GOD, I WANNA WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY? OH LORD, I WISH I COULD UNDERSTAND. NO. NO. NO. IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN THIS WAY."

by Anonymousreply 9411/18/2012

Is it true that Liza Minnelli auditioned for Alex?

by Anonymousreply 9511/18/2012

[quote]Is it true that Liza Minnelli auditioned for Alex?

Yes, to play Alexsh Forresht.

by Anonymousreply 9611/18/2012

Lucille Ball would have made a great Alex.

by Anonymousreply 9711/18/2012

"... he tried... to schay goodbye to me lascht night.. but he couldn't becausche.... he and i feel the same way about each other..... you think I don't know what you're doing? You're trying to move him into the country and you're taking him away from me and you're playing.... happy familische! You're so schelfisch.... you're so scthupid... you're just a schtupid, schelfish bitch!"

by Anonymousreply 9811/18/2012

I "hic" won't re ignored, Dan!

by Anonymousreply 9911/18/2012

So, what can I get you? I've got scotch, I've got vodka, I've got a nice chablis in the---

by Anonymousreply 10011/18/2012

"In Fatal Attraction, Beth fights to regain her idyllic life of homely bliss, but after what has happened, can Eden remain? The fall has occurred through forbidden sexuality. Indeed, there seems little enough sexuality in the marriage itself. The little daughter's innocence has been shattered, her pastoral world destroyed, it would seem (although the film doesn't come to terms with this), by a crazed stranger, who also happens to be her father's lover and potential child-bearer. Her parents are murderers. This, we are to believe, is the ideal family of the 1980s."

by Anonymousreply 10111/18/2012

"Was she really pregnant or just using it as a ploy. I was always fuzzy on that."

I think it was a trick, in spite of the doctor's card, the preg test kit in the bathroom, etc.

The issue of Dan's conversation with the doctor did not ring true. What doctor would give out that kind of patient information, even to someone who claimed to be the baby's father, or the woman's spouse? For that matter, what GYN is even going to TALK to a random guy who calls his office asking whether someone is really pregnant?

That was a strangely specific plot detail that raised more questions than it answered. The storyline would have been much better if Dan did not really know whether Alex was lying to him or not.

by Anonymousreply 10211/20/2012

I would have loved to see Alex played by Richard Simmons.

by Anonymousreply 10311/21/2012

Let's face it R103, the only difference between Glenn and Richard was hair color.

by Anonymousreply 10411/21/2012

I'm watching the Biography Channel's Inside Story about Fatal Attraction right now.

The up front stuff is really interesting. All the studios passed on the movie originally because they didn't see how you can make a movie where you have to root for a character that cheats on his wife 10 minutes into the story.

But then Brian De Palma got interested in and when he agreed to direct it, Paramount gave them the go ahead.

Ten weeks before they were ready to start filming though, De Palma said he didn't want Michael Douglas as the lead because he didn't feel Douglas could play a sympathetic character. So the producers Sherry Lansing and Stanley Jaffe took a risk and stuck with their choice of Michael Douglas which meant De Palma backed out.

They thought losing De Palma would mean Paramount would back out of agreeing to finance the movie, but lucky for them, the studio didn't.

I'm trying to image the movie as De Palma would have made it. It would have been so different - possibly still a good movie though.

by Anonymousreply 10501/06/2013

R98 has me in stitches.

by Anonymousreply 10601/06/2013

To expand a bit on r105, Brian De Palma asked form some script re-writes that would have made the Glenn Close character a more sinister character with some more psychotic behavior.

Also when De Palma stood firm that he didn't want to make the movie with Michael Douglas as the lead, he had another actor he wanted. On the Biography show they didn't say who that actor was. I'd like to know who he liked for the role.

by Anonymousreply 10701/07/2013

In today's Manhattan, you would have to be a prince from Dubai or a Russian billionaire to afford Alex's apartment in the Meat Packing District.

by Anonymousreply 10801/07/2013

One of my all-time favorite thrillers. An homage (some say knock-off) to "Play Misty For Me", which was also very good.

by Anonymousreply 10901/08/2013

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by Anonymousreply 11004/27/2014

I saw Glenn in Dangerous Liasons last week. It was on one of the cable channels.

I hadn't seen it it years. My God she was fantastic in that as were Malkovich and Pieffer.

The only weak link was the disasterous Keanu.

I believe Dangerous Liasons is my favorite movie of Glenn's.

by Anonymousreply 11104/27/2014

R108 or how about Billy Crystal's "bachelor pad" loft in When Harry Met Sally? The size of thhat living room alone looked to be about 1500 or 2000 sq ft. Insane.

And what did he do for a living sgain? Nothing particularly lucrative.

But back to FA - I know everyone talks about the original ending, but I've checked it out on YouTube and its even worse then the one we got. Not the idea per se - it had the potential to be good - but the way it was executed and acted was one of the most laughable things I've ever seen. But then again it's Adrian Lyne - has he ever made a good movie?

Listen, I enjoy it as a guilty, campy pleasure, and Close is good (though I hardly think she was "robbed" of the win), but basically, let's face it, the movie is kind of crap.

by Anonymousreply 11204/27/2014

Glenn Close was never going to win an Oscar for this. The film itself was such a lightening rod not the least because of the depiction of Alex Forrest, the profiling of women as "bunny boilers," the way the film disposes of her protecting the life and considerable personal assets of its male lead who was portrayed in such a sympathetic manner. The film had an amazing impact, socially, but though Close's unexpected re-invention was universally praised the monstrous depiction of a woman scorned was highly controversial. It would've been like giving an Oscar to Sharon Stone for Basic Instinct. Just unpalatable. It was something of a surprise when the film pulled nominations for Best Picture and Best Director (7 in total, I believe) but it was an acknowledgement of what an undeniable success it was, not that it was especially high brow but that it was such a cultural talking point.

The big surprise came the following year when Close was passed over for Dangerous Liasons. Most observers thought that would be the make up Oscar for Fatal Attraction but it wasn't to be.

by Anonymousreply 11304/28/2014

R31: it was like a heart-stopping roller coaster ride. Probably the only time I felt like I was watching a movie with the ENTIRE audience - we were all terrible anxious and quiet at the same time and all jumped out of our seats at the same time.

Agree - this movie at the time was SHOCKING! I was a teen and we were terrified. Yes I think Married men across America kept it in their pants for about a year after this came out.

I would have never considered Glenn Close as a sexual being before this movie, but in this she was on fire!

I hated the kid, Anne Archer was beautiful but boring.

by Anonymousreply 11404/28/2014

Check out this hilarious trivia (most of it likely bullshit) from IMDb's trivia page on "other actresses who were considered for the role of Alex Forrest":

Morgan Fairchild, Beverly D'Angelo, Bette Midler, Tracey Ullman, Olivia Newton-John, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Alison Doody, Helen Slater, Demi Moore, Jennifer Grey, Jennifer Beals, Catherine O'Hara, Rosanna Arquette, Kate Capshaw, Cher, Ellen Barkin, Carrie Fisher, Linda Hamilton, Daryl Hannah, Barbara Hershey, Holly Hunter, Amy Irving, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Heather Locklear, Madonna, Lena Olin, Annette O'Toole, Michelle Pfeiffer, Miranda Richardson, Mary Steenburgen, Meryl Streep, Raquel Welch, Tuesday Weld, Debra Winger, Jane Seymour, Cybill Shepherd, Susan Sarandon, Kim Basinger, Kelly McGillis, Melanie Griffith, Kathleen Turner, Geena Davis, Christine Ebersole, Mary Gross, Kay Lenz, Jessica Lange, Diane Keaton, Sissy Spacek, Sigourney Weaver, Candice Bergen, Goldie Hawn, Farrah Fawcett, Christine Baranski, Jamie Lee Curtis, Jodie Foster, Ally Sheedy, Annie Potts, Stockard Channing and Isabella Rossellini were all considered for the role of Alex Forrest.

Gilda Radner auditioned for the role of Alex Forrest.

Elisabeth Shue was originally considered for the role Alex Forrest but was forced to turn the role down, because she was signed to the Disney movie Adventures in Babysitting (1987).

Who would your favorite Alex be?

by Anonymousreply 11504/28/2014

R115 Beverly D'Angelo because I would have loved to see her call Michael Douglas "Sparky."

Actually, I kid because she's a good actress who never got many chances to shine. Gilda Radner is the most hilariously absurd one mentioned on that bullshit list ; ONJ would have been funny to see, too.

And thank you for reminded me that an actress named Alison Doody ever existed. She was supposed to be some big dead after "Last Crusade" came out - I've literally never seen or heard her name mentioned since.

Yes, r113, you're totally right.

by Anonymousreply 11604/28/2014

M. would have been a good choice as well. Jodie is an excellent actress, but would have been too young to play the role.

by Anonymousreply 11704/28/2014

I heard Debra Winger was to have played Alex, but dropped out because she was pregnant. Debra Winger as Alex, with her wild hair and intensity...that would really have been something. I think Winger would have been perfect in the role. Her natural craziness would have made the ultimate Alex.

by Anonymousreply 11804/28/2014

Debra would have been a great choice. Theresa Russell, Veronica Hamel, Jane Seymour, Sigourney Weaver, and a few others would have been great.

by Anonymousreply 11904/28/2014

My favorite scene is when Alex poses as a prospective buyer for their apartment and toys with Dan. Dan is confronted with how far she'll go and is forced to pretend in front of his wife. Sinister and perfectly directed. Close is truly genius in the scene, playing to both Archer and Douglas in different ways.

Douglas is in many ways an underrated actor. He often makes things look easy because he never does the showy type of roles that people like Daniel Day Lewis go for, but he's never given a bad performance. He should have been nominated for this, after all he's the audience's guide through the movie, giving them cues how to respond to Alex.

by Anonymousreply 12004/28/2014

"i will not be ignored, Dan" - best line.

by Anonymousreply 12104/28/2014

I should have played Alex!

by Anonymousreply 12204/28/2014

Part of the antisex conservative hysteria of the 80s. A propaganda film masquerading as entertainment.

by Anonymousreply 12304/28/2014

R123 is a sex-positive pansexuelle.

by Anonymousreply 12404/29/2014

I was also approached for the role of Alex.

by Anonymousreply 12504/29/2014

[all posts by tedious, racist idiot removed.]

by Anonymousreply 12604/29/2014

[quote]Ten weeks before they were ready to start filming though, De Palma said he didn't want Michael Douglas as the lead because he didn't feel Douglas could play a sympathetic character.

Because of Gordon Gekko?

by Anonymousreply 12704/29/2014

R121 I like that one too. This is another favorite of mine-

ALEX: Why? Because I won't allow you

to treat me like some slut...

you can just bang a couple times

and throw in the garbage?

by Anonymousreply 12804/29/2014

Anybody been to see the stage version in London? Natasha McElhone plays Alex and Kristin Davis plays Beth.

by Anonymousreply 12904/29/2014

R120 Douglas got his nomination (and win) that year for WALL STREET, instead. You can't be nominated in the same category for the same film. In 1993, a similar thing happened when Anthony Hopkins got good notices for both REMAINS OF THE DAY and SHADOWLANDS, but in the end he got his nod for REMAINS, while his SHADOWLANDS co-star Debra Winger was nominated for that movie.

I was 7 when this movie came out and living in another country, so I didn't get to see it until over the weekend. Pretty good thriller, for the most part, although it seemed cliched at times. That may just be, as another posted already noted, because the movie and elements from it have been parodied ad nauseam.

One thing I had to REALLY suspend disbelief for was Glenn Close. I mean, she was great in the acting department, but she was not attractive at all, especially with that ridiculous perm that did her no favors. Her very first scene where Dan's friend spots her and says "Hubba!" (or something like it) I had to chuckle, because by his reaction she was supposed to be a stunner, but then you get to first glimpse her from their POV and she looks like Vincent from BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.

BTW: I too thought the little girl was a boy for most of the movie. Why did they make her so androgynous? Was that a thing in the mid-'80s? I can't recall.

by Anonymousreply 13008/22/2017

Re Cher vs. Close, people have to remember that Cher had quite a banner year in 1987. She starred in two Top Ten grossing films of the year (MOONSTRUCK, THE WITCHES OF EASTWICK), the former was especially a blockbuster. Sometimes that's all it takes. See Sandra Bullock in 2009 (THE PROPOSAL, THE BLIND SIDE) and Jennifer Lawrence in 2012 (THE HUNGER GAMES, SILVER LININGS PLAYBOOK). Yes, it's unfair, but the Oscars are very political and politicized, like most things.

by Anonymousreply 13108/22/2017

R130, this whole subject was covered, ad nauseam, a few months ago >>

by Anonymousreply 13208/22/2017

I've always liked Fatal Attraction, and honestly think Glen was great. Everyone was great. It's a good sexual suspense film; entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 13308/22/2017

R132 oh, thanks. Sorry. I did a search and this was one of the first threads that popped up. I didn't realize there was a newer one.

by Anonymousreply 13408/22/2017

R132 just checked out that thread, and it appears to be a game thread and not about discussing the film.

by Anonymousreply 13508/22/2017

they do discuss the film - every single detail, as it goes along.

by Anonymousreply 13608/22/2017

Cure for fatal attraction:: don't wash, don't brush teeth, wipe poorly, wear old, dirty clothes, refuse to pay the bills on dates, and be verbally obnoxious and berating. Also, ask her if she will fuck your fat friend you bring along. The bitch will stop. Better yet, Trans.

by Anonymousreply 13708/22/2017

R136 I take it back. I've been reading that thread and it is informative, as well as hilarious. Thanks again for the link. :-)

by Anonymousreply 13808/22/2017

Fat dog didn't come out very well in that thread, did he, R138?

by Anonymousreply 13908/22/2017

R139 funny about the dog. I didn't even notice him much of the time. He was just there -- a living prop. But he certainly made an impression on a lot of people. Now that I think about it, he WAS pretty useless. haha

by Anonymousreply 14008/22/2017


by Anonymousreply 14108/27/2017

I don't get why some DLers can't understand that people hook up even if one or both isn't super hot. I thought it was very realistic that Dan would have an affair with Alex. She was intriguing at the party, she was flirtatious in the office. And, while maybe no beauty queen or super hot, Alex was by no means ugly. Plus, she's leading him on at the restuarant for what he thought was a "free" fuck. Plenty of guys would have gone through with it, no matter if Alex wasn't a Maxim cover girl.

by Anonymousreply 14208/27/2017

I really like the movie but I do think Jacob's Ladder is Adrian Lynne's best movie. It's apparent Lynne doesn't have the greatest talent for endings, though.

by Anonymousreply 14308/27/2017

Close acted "sex" like she acts intelligence, kindness, confusion and anger. With a hammer-like precision and a thrown brick's sensitivity.

But of course that angular-yet-bloated mannishness of hers, combined with the snarl she applies to show any emotion, really sold the character to undiscerning and easily fooled viewers. As with the OP.

by Anonymousreply 14408/27/2017

[quote]She even looks like an animal with that 80's perm, like a lioness.

OP, lionesses don't have manes.

by Anonymousreply 14508/27/2017

“A lioness! Delightful! That must explain why she chewed the scenery and shit in public. —M”

Oh, Dear M!

You needn’t be jealous.

Now, I know you wer having a…moment.

I have always appreciated your work. It was always so…assuring.

When you played the frigid, celebate Beth in “Ordinary People,” Robert Redford knew the role was a suitable fit for you. You were so…natural.

It’s always been a blessing, for your fans, all five of them, to not see you try to be…sexual.

You always did what people were willing to believe in you.

You have never defied anyone’s expectations—including your own.

Always be you, M!

by Anonymousreply 14608/27/2017

[quote]When you played the frigid, celebate Beth in “Ordinary People,” Robert Redford knew the role was a suitable fit for you. You were so…natural.

Oh no. I think dementia has set in for G. Anyone know what the deductible is on SAG insurance? I'd like to cover it as a gesture of good faith.

by Anonymousreply 14708/27/2017

'Twas Mary Tyler Moore who was nominated for ORDINARY PEOPLE.

by Anonymousreply 14808/28/2017

Someone on the other thread proposed a trans version of Fatal Attraction.

I'd also like to see a black version with Lisa Nicole Carson (Ally McBeal among other things) as Alex. LNC has struggled with mental illness in real life.

by Anonymousreply 14908/28/2017

Do we know for sure that Alex Forrest was mentally ill? I think someone upthread posted a recent TV interview with Glenn Close, and she said that Alex was not conceived to be mentally ill, but that's how shes' perceived by modern audiences (because everyone is over-medicated now). Okay, the sentence in brackets is my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 15008/28/2017

[quote]Do we know for sure that Alex Forrest was mentally ill?

You doubt it?

by Anonymousreply 15108/28/2017

It's rarely mentioned that the GC character was pregnant when slain.

by Anonymousreply 15208/28/2017

I'm not pro life, so I don't care.

by Anonymousreply 15308/28/2017

I'm pro-choice myself, but pretty much when it's the choice of the pregnant woman! I just find it interesting that Middle America didn't care!

by Anonymousreply 15408/28/2017

R153 don't you mean you're not anti-choice?

by Anonymousreply 15508/28/2017

I don't think she was mentally ill. If she were mentally ill, she would have thought that Dan was also in love with her. She knew this wasn't the case, and she became extremely angry when she didn't get what she wanted.

Now was she pregnant? I don't know. If she were pregnant, would she have gone on a rough, bumpy roller coaster ride and risked injury to the fetus? I suspect that she was not pregnant. Therefore, for the next several months, she was going to have to wear fake padding on her stomach (a la Beyonce five years ago), and then she was going to murder a nearly-due pregnant lady, remove the fetus (with THAT knife) and then pretend the baby was her own. And you know she would have done that, too.

by Anonymousreply 15608/28/2017

R156 I've heard of a couple real-life cases like that. One desperate woman answered an ad with the intent of killing the pregnant young woman and cutting out the baby and pretending it was hers. I think that one happened in 2012-2013 in the heartland somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 15708/28/2017

R150 I think it's clear she had borderline personality disorder. Which, technically, is a mental illness, but not like, say, schizophrenia or bipolar disorder (although sometimes symptoms may be the same).

by Anonymousreply 15808/28/2017

R19 that is a little girl....

by Anonymousreply 15908/28/2017

What are Ellen's pronouns?

by Anonymousreply 16008/28/2017

Why didn't they just make Ellen a boy? That's what everyone thought, anyway.

by Anonymousreply 16108/28/2017

R158, if I understood your post I wanted to clarify this as an important point about the character of Alex. Borderline is indeed a very serious mental illness, sitting between bi-polar and schizophrenia on the spectrum.

An aside comment:

Alex was mentally ill. This allowed her character to become intensely enraged at being callously cast away. Her pathological emotional imbalance allowed all the normal feelings of being tossed aside from an affair to be amplified to the point of madness and murder.

Everyone's nightmare, just like Dan's.

by Anonymousreply 16208/28/2017

r162, AND YOU GET OUT!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 16308/28/2017

I admittedly am unfamiliar with the new DSM 5, but in the DSM IV, borderline was Axis II; schizophrenia and bipolar were Axis II. There was a considerable difference between personality disorders and Axis I diagnoses., esp. in the ways they were treated.

by Anonymousreply 16408/28/2017

*schizophrenia and bipolar were Axis I

by Anonymousreply 16508/28/2017

Not to question your knowledge, r164. You're correct. I was speaking from how I understand these severe personality disorders in action. I think more pychosis happens with borderline disorder. It's very serious. Anyway, don't mean to pick this apart.

by Anonymousreply 16608/28/2017


by Anonymousreply 16708/28/2017

"Dan," huh? They're all the same.

by Anonymousreply 16808/29/2017

R168 I read that as Betty Buckley at first ... and thought, "She would have made an awesome Alex."

by Anonymousreply 16908/29/2017

If Betty B. is not Buckley, then who is it?

by Anonymousreply 17008/29/2017

Mo'Nique would've been so much better in that role.

by Anonymousreply 17108/29/2017

R170 Broderick, I assume

by Anonymousreply 17208/29/2017

r169, I think she was a bit long in the tooth for the role of Alex but she could definitely pull off the personality type as evidenced here:

by Anonymousreply 17308/29/2017

R172 ah, yes, The "Dan" thing now makes sense. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 17408/29/2017

R173 Betty Lynn is four months YOUNGER than Glenn Close.

by Anonymousreply 17508/29/2017

r175, well she looked too old for the part.

by Anonymousreply 17608/29/2017

They left me off of that list. I was cast as Alex, but had to drop out because I was doing a production of SWEET BIRD OF YOUTH in the U.K. Barbra Streisand saw to it that I was taken out.

by Anonymousreply 17708/29/2017

He should have known she was a fucking psycho from this scene alone

by Anonymousreply 17808/29/2017

LOL, this article is funny!

[quote]I was convinced I had seen a masterpiece. I hadn’t, but 20 years later I still keep coming back to it. Maybe it was because I shared the same first name as the female protagonist. God knows why a 12-year-old boy would identify with a 36-year-old female psychopath, but I loved Alex Forrest (Glenn Close), even as she did increasingly terrible things.

by Anonymousreply 17908/29/2017

R51, I always thought the same thing. Her hair was awful.

by Anonymousreply 18008/29/2017

I think Glenn's appearance is interesting and brave int he film. She is sort of attractive in the early seduction scenes and then becomes subtly uglier as it proceeds.

Glenn has said she worked with psychologists to determine what the character's illness was.

She was upset with the change in ending when the character becomes a monster and attacks the wife in the tub and then is shot and rises up again like some horror movie Michael Meyers character.

Her research said that a character like that would harm herself first before others. They had to force her to shoot the new ending.

by Anonymousreply 18108/29/2017

Glenn cashed her check. Her pussy needed to STFU and film the scene like they wanted. The play's the thing, G!!!!

by Anonymousreply 18208/30/2017

Both endings of the movie were crap. The Madame Butterly ending was too psychological for audiences and provided no payoff and the bathroom ending was too much like a horror film and felt like a different movie attached to another (Alex just left her apartment bare foot carrying a knife and made it all the way from Manhattan to upstate New York?). Someone on youtube called 'Messylin' wrote their own ending in the comment section of this video and I think it's brilliant:

[quote]A better ending would have been if Alex had turned up at the family home when Dan had not been there, and stalks Beth and Ellen through the house (who are hiding in terror). Once Dan arrives home and intervenes, he attacks Alex and they fight, causing a candle to be knocked over and a massive fire to begin. As the fight rages on, Dan gets out of Alex's clutches and looks for his wife and child. As Alex chases Dan through the now burning house, he finds Beth and Ellen and the family desperately navigate their way out of the house. As Beth begs Dan to stay, he is overtaken by rage for Alex and goes back into the house to confront her but she intentionally goes to where the fire is most ferocious, trapping herself. Whilst trapped, Alex's personality transforms from a psychotic woman to a terrified little girl and Dan's fury changes to pity. Finally, he tries to rescue Alex, but she tells him to leave her alone. As the fires flare up around her, Dan is forced to give up on the rescue and is forced to save himself. Beth, thinking Dan has died, screams in agony, only for him to emerge from the house for an emotional reunion with his family. Together, they watch it burn and the last shot would be their family photograph in the hallway wreathed in flames.

by Anonymousreply 18309/02/2017

"That she would kill herself, instead of being psycho."

She was psycho for most of the movie!

by Anonymousreply 18409/02/2017

[quote]Her research said that a character like that would harm herself first before others.

Tell that to the bunny rabbit.

by Anonymousreply 18509/02/2017

R183 that sounds like an amalgam of the endings of "The Hand that Rocks the Cradle" and "Elmer Gantry."

Was the original ending supposed to be her killing herself and pinning it on Dan? That's also a rip-off of "Leave Her to Heaven."

by Anonymousreply 18609/02/2017

I'll never let go, Dan. I'll never let go.

by Anonymousreply 18709/03/2017

The ending that R183 quoted is as bad as the other two, IMO.

I'd vote for leaving it open ended. Alex stalks the family at their suburban home, makes more threats to Dan or shows up somewhere again; and another scene of her alone with her psychological torment. And, the last scene is Dan and Beth and Ellen going somewhere or eating dinner together, or Dan simply having a drink looking out the window. Regardless, a close focus on Dan's face to show his inner turmoil over creating the situation and anxiety about when Alex may make another move.

Of course, no studio would go for that. The ending they chose isn't perfect, but it doesn't ruin the movie for me.

by Anonymousreply 18809/03/2017

Anne Archer was so twee in this. (plus she spawned a top Scientologist leader)

by Anonymousreply 18909/03/2017

It is amazing how similar this movie is to "Play Misty for Me." Even down to the pulling the knife and screaming that was used so much in trailers.

Did anyone sue for plagiarism ?

by Anonymousreply 19009/03/2017

douglas can't dance worth a this movie or in the one with sharon stone at the disco. zero sense of rhythm.

by Anonymousreply 19109/03/2017

basic instinct...that was the other one......

by Anonymousreply 19209/03/2017

They should have had a dance double.

by Anonymousreply 19309/03/2017

As well as a butt double.

by Anonymousreply 19409/03/2017

R195 seems like a lame comment to make but he was just SO bad......

by Anonymousreply 19509/04/2017

I think Beth and Alex should have gotten together and ran off with Elaine.

by Anonymousreply 19609/04/2017

r188, let's see you write a better one, bitch?

by Anonymousreply 19709/04/2017

Who's Elaine?

by Anonymousreply 19809/04/2017

Ellen Foley, yes THE ELLEN FOLEY, had a supporting role in this film; her character, "Hildy," was a "best friend" of the Gallaghers.

by Anonymousreply 19909/04/2017

Loved this baby!

by Anonymousreply 20009/04/2017

How did Alex sneak into the house with a knife at night while the whole family was at home?

by Anonymousreply 20109/04/2017

They left the door unlocked. They are home from the hospital for a few minutes and Anne Archer goes upstairs to take a bath. Douglas then goes and locks the front door after they have already been inside for a bit. (sort of an unbelievable thing to do if you've just had your kid kidnapped and know you are being stalked but that was all part of the messy tacked on ending.)

and that is the loudest tea pot on earth. As a kid I always wondered why ours wasn't that loud. It only slightly whistled when boiling. Douglas' is loud enough to block out two women screaming and battling on the upper floor.

by Anonymousreply 20209/04/2017

"[R188], let's see you write a better one, bitch?"

Why the hostility? I can't not like a hypothetical ending? I don't think I was overly bitchy about it. I simply said I didn't like the ending at R183. And, I did propose an alternate ending. Fuck. do people here get a hard on for starting arguments.

by Anonymousreply 20309/04/2017

Ain't Elaine the daughter???

by Anonymousreply 20409/05/2017

You know she's a psycho when she has wine and ice cream at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 20509/06/2017


by Anonymousreply 20609/07/2017

"You know she's a psycho when she has wine and ice cream at the same time."

She's channeling a Cathy comic.

by Anonymousreply 20709/07/2017

I scene I love where Close is just so good is when she takes their kid to the amusement park and she just sits there expressionless on the roller coaster. Even though she is there on a thrill ride her mind is still on Douglas and her quest to hurt him.

The scene where she is looking at buying there apartment is also great.

by Anonymousreply 20809/07/2017

although, in watching it again it is sort of stupid how the Anne Archer character is just driving around looking for the kid when she should have been calling the police but that always happens in these films.

by Anonymousreply 20909/07/2017

I still don't get how Alex got Ellen from school. But, 80s small town, maybe they just trusted that she was a family friend.

by Anonymousreply 21009/07/2017

[quote]I still don't get how Alex got Ellen from school.

That part is probably pretty accurate for the time. I was a kid in the early eighties in suburbia and we would just leave school and walk home. Sometimes neighbors and other kids friends would pick us up if they were passing. I don't know how it works now. Do they parents have to sign the kids out or something.

The part I hate about the school scene is how Anne Archer asks another kid "where's Ellen" and the kid says so ominously and sinisterly "she's gone." A real kid would just say she left or something but not so melodramatically.

by Anonymousreply 21109/07/2017

That "other kid" was Alycia.

by Anonymousreply 21209/07/2017

Saw it again recently, as well. Glenn Close has never been "perfect" for anything. She does a workable job.

by Anonymousreply 21309/07/2017


by Anonymousreply 21409/07/2017

R214 Huh?

by Anonymousreply 21509/07/2017

r215 must be new

by Anonymousreply 21609/07/2017

R213 how do you mean?

by Anonymousreply 21709/07/2017

I thought G was very convincing in Albert Nobbs. I really truley believed she was a man when I saw that film. (and on numerous other occasions too)

by Anonymousreply 21809/07/2017

R217 I just find her to be a try-hard. The effort is obvious and to diminishing returns.

by Anonymousreply 21909/07/2017
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