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PLEASE STOP USING THE TERM "SELF-ENTITLED."

It is redundant and nonsensical. What phrases or terms drive you crazy?

by Anonymousreply 6306/25/2015

It's not really redundant. Entitlement can either be granted externally or decided by oneself.

by Anonymousreply 109/18/2010

"Entitled" is usually used to describe a person's mistaken belief that they deserve special treatment.

If the special treatment is being granted willingly by a third party, then the belief is not mistaken and you are not describing a sense of entitlement.

Hence, "self-entitlement" is redundant.

by Anonymousreply 309/18/2010

I'm starting to get sick of "boograhmocious." Any one else?

by Anonymousreply 409/18/2010

[quote]"Entitled" is usually used to describe a person's mistaken belief that they deserve special treatment.

I disagree. That is not even the most common use of the word.

In any case, the fact that it could mean several things makes the disambiguation legitimate, not redundant.

by Anonymousreply 509/18/2010

R5 is correct.

by Anonymousreply 609/18/2010

Unless one is using "entitled" in a legal context, almost any use of the term is as a pejorative description of someone who inaccurately believes he or she deserves special treatment. So, for most purposes "self-entitled" is redundant. If you are using the word in a legal (or benefits) context, it is as a defined term and as such is not likely to be confused with the pejorative use of "entitled" in the first place. So, "self-entitled" is redundant. More importantly, it is meaningless. Adding the "self-" doesn't really clarify the writer's meaning. As such it is mere "I like to hear myself use buzz words" language, and reminds me of the hillbilly style of writing in which words are unnecessarily hyphenated.

by Anonymousreply 709/18/2010

When dining at buffets I provide myself with courteous self-service.

by Anonymousreply 809/18/2010

[quote]Unless one is using "entitled" in a legal context, almost any use of the term is as a pejorative description of someone who inaccurately believes he or she deserves special treatment.

I still disagree, though I don't know whether to attribute your conviction about the use of this word to limited experience or wishful imagination.

Adding the "self" clarifies the "mistaken belief" aspect, because the notion of entitlement is self endowed, much like the expression "self-righteous."

The fact that you only use the word in one sense does not mean it can't have other meanings. And if it can have other meanings, clarification is not always redundant.

by Anonymousreply 909/18/2010

The word imagery is confused with 'self-titled': one who claims special status and demands deference based on a fictitious lineage.

by Anonymousreply 1009/18/2010

Game, set, and match for R5/R9!

by Anonymousreply 1109/18/2010

It is already quite clear from context which definition of "entitled" a speaker or writer is using. This is what makes "self-entitled" redundant. How is that complicated?

I'm not sure where you got the idea I'm claiming the word is used only one way.

But in terms of frequency, are you disputing the fact the word is most often used in a legal or benefits context or as a pejorative? Because if that's what you are claiming, then I would have to disagree with you.

by Anonymousreply 1209/18/2010

I want to marry R5/R9. He really has his shit together and is entitled to much praise and adulation for putting the self-important OP in his place.

by Anonymousreply 1309/18/2010

[quote]the notion of entitlement is self endowed, much like the expression "self-righteous."

Please use "entitled" in a sentence where the term is used in a neutral (non-pejorative) way, communicates the idea that a benefit is being conferred by a third party, and is not a legal or benefits scenario.

by Anonymousreply 1409/18/2010

Boograhmocious!

by Anonymousreply 1509/18/2010

I've decided that I'm entitled to my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 1609/18/2010

Good, R16. Step 2: Substitute "self-entitled" for "entitled." See how stupid it sounds?

by Anonymousreply 1709/18/2010

Thank you, R1. Thread closed.

by Anonymousreply 1809/18/2010

Oh, R7, you just don't get it. You are entitled to your opinion (as incorrect as it is), as well as a self-entitled prick.

by Anonymousreply 1909/18/2010

[quote]reminds me of the hillbilly style of writing in which words are unnecessarily hyphenated. WTF? That's definitely the only time I've ever heard 'hillbilly' used in a discussion of semantics. Example, please?

by Anonymousreply 2009/18/2010

Children are entitled to be childish.

You asked for an example where the entitlement is NOT conferred on oneself, so please don't embarrass yourself by calling attention to the fact that "self-entitled" cannot be substituted here.

by Anonymousreply 2109/18/2010

I wish the word "entitled" would vanish entirely from the Datalounge, because it is used so incorrecty, so often.

It's correctly used to describe presumptive behavior, but so many of our snootier prisspots use it to describe perfectly ordinary behavior which annoys them - such as female tourists walking down the sidewalks of New York. That's not using the word to describe bad behavior, it's using it to express snobbery and exclusion.

by Anonymousreply 2209/18/2010

People are entitled to courtesy from their fellow man.

The self entitled baby carriage pushing frau thought she could park her said carriage in the middle of the grocery aisle.

by Anonymousreply 2309/19/2010

R22, when the dishwasher is done running, why don't you pull out your clean, warm dildo and put it to good use-- you really need to lighten up.

by Anonymousreply 2409/19/2010

R7 is entitled to my disdain.

by Anonymousreply 2509/19/2010

I think OP's dildo has been stuck up his ass for some weeks now.

by Anonymousreply 2609/19/2010

So, that term would be "self-shitted."

by Anonymousreply 2709/19/2010

Arrogating a sense of entitlement to one's demeanor is pretty much implied by the context, so I agree that describing someone's behavior as "entitled" is the same as the redundant "self-entitled," unless we're talking about the bestowal of knighthoods.

by Anonymousreply 2809/19/2010

Please stop typing headlines in all caps. It's redundant. The fact that it is a headline is obvious by its position at the top of the post.

by Anonymousreply 2903/10/2012

OP is a stay-at-home mommy from Williamsburg Brooklyn.

by Anonymousreply 3003/10/2012

"False equvialency."

by Anonymousreply 3103/10/2012

I hate "nonsensical". It's like "misogynistic". People trying to sound smart by contorting words only show the limits of their vocabulary.

by Anonymousreply 3203/10/2012

OP, you're quite self entitled to be the DL hall monitor, aren't ya hon?

by Anonymousreply 3303/10/2012

Preternatural.

by Anonymousreply 3403/10/2012

Beating a dead horse to death. That one has annoyed me off-and-on. I hyphenate freely too, and my people are from ... non-urban areas of the western parts of of central-east-coast states. Suppose that's why?

by Anonymousreply 3503/10/2012

"Ish Kabibble"

My oldest brother isn't musically silly or entertaining.

He's half-blind, nearly deaf, and fat with moobs. He rightfully deserves the title 'Sack of Shit' - not "Ish Kabibble".

by Anonymousreply 3603/10/2012

R35, just so you know, when you hyphenate unnecessarily, it makes the phrase feel as if it's stopping and starting again in those places. It breaks up whatever you're saying, makes it choppy, and distracts from your meaning.

by Anonymousreply 3703/10/2012

[quote]it makes the phrase feel as if it's stopping and starting again

Perhaps the point, Polly Prissy-Pants

by Anonymousreply 3803/10/2012

This thread is making me HORNY as HELL

by Anonymousreply 3903/10/2012

R14 Hows this?

Because I spent over $100 on my on-line order, I was informed I was entitled to get free shipping.

by Anonymousreply 4003/10/2012

that warn't me

by Anonymousreply 4103/11/2012

"Have a good one!"

by Anonymousreply 4203/11/2012

So what the OP is saying is that the mistaken use of "entitled" by clowns like him, when actually he means "self-entitled", should be the basis for now using the term entilted to mean self-entitled.

Entitled = deserving Self-entitled = having baseless or unfounded sesne of being deserving

I can't pronounce ask, I keep saying aks. Genetic metathesis or something. So lets just stop the use of ask.

by Anonymousreply 4304/23/2012

I wonder what you would be criticizing, if your math grades were high enough to get into a real post secondary program. If use of the word "Self-Entitled" bothers you, you're likely a self-entitled bitter asshole/ English major.

by Anonymousreply 4411/17/2012

Somebody's got a case of the Mondays :( frowny face!!

by Anonymousreply 4511/17/2012

Irregardless and I could care less - my two pet peeves! Think about what you are saying dumbbells!

by Anonymousreply 4611/17/2012

``Please stop using...``

by Anonymousreply 4711/17/2012

Wrong, R32. "Nonsensical" is in the dictionary, and it's perfectly acceptable as a different form of the word nonsense. Compare "That statement is nonsense" to "That's a nonsensical statement." Both phrasings are acceptable.t

by Anonymousreply 4811/17/2012

OP's post was intentionally ironic...right?

by Anonymousreply 4911/17/2012

"Misogynistic" is in the dictionary as well. The word has been in existence since 1821.

by Anonymousreply 5011/17/2012

OP is confused because so many people say "entitled" when they mean "self-entitled". So it seems redundant. But those people are wrong. "You should know by context what they mean" isn't a license to just be wrong. Wrong is still wrong.

If I said "That guy just cut in line! What an important asshole!" would you know by context that I really meant that he's a self-important asshole? Probably not. "Entitled" and "self-entitled" work the same way.

If someone says "I could care less" when they meant "I couldn't care less", I shouldn't be expected to pick up through context which meaning they ACTUALLY wanted. They should say the one they mean.

by Anonymousreply 5101/26/2013

OT and R7 get their definitions from The Valley Girl Dictionary.

by Anonymousreply 5201/26/2013

"Entitled" means entitled–as in "deserving of" or "having a right to"—for god's sake.

Persons whom DLers describe as "self-entitled" can be more clearly and less awkwardly described as having a false sense of entitlement.

by Anonymousreply 5301/26/2013

There's nothing sadder than an "oh, dear" troll who can't even do it right.

Poor OP.

by Anonymousreply 5401/26/2013

Closure, "reach out", "literally" when something isn't necessarily literal, ironic, "going forward" for "from now on"

I would also like to encourage people who attend concerts of classical music to try and restrain themselves from giving a standing ovation unless the performance really and truly deserved it. When I hear and/or see that a performance has been given a standing ovation these days it really means nothing anymore because audiences do it all the time now, whereas in more discerning times standing ovations were doled out judiciously and everyone in the audience understood this; it's more about estimation and less about emotion, not the other way around.

"My 'child' is a star/genius/record poopshooter/singular jizzbag, etc. etc. etc. at such and such school" bumper stickers.

Straight guy hugs constantly at base/foot ball games among the team members--I would rather see the staid handshakes of old than that fake, phony shit.

"Baby on board"--what the fuck does this mean?

Anyone who uptalks should be severely bitch-slapped.

by Anonymousreply 5501/27/2013

This thread has certainly become boograhmocious. Bartle du?

by Anonymousreply 5603/22/2013

Dear OP you are not the boss of me.

by Anonymousreply 5703/22/2013

Just because self-entitled is a buzzword doesn't mean it can't be used properly. Also the reason it's envogue now is because there are so many people that are self-entitled and unaware of the fact! The Neo-Tea party comes to mind ...

The proof is in the pudding and I breezed through the thread and noticed or failed to notice anyone using it in a sentence to compare and decide.

"She appeared entitled to another piece of pie since she was best friends with the owner of the pie shop."

"She appeared self-entitled to another piece of pie since she was best friends with the owner of the pie shop."

Clearly the addition of "self" denotes calling into question: authenticity, sincerity, or at the very least propriety or lack thereof. I agree it is kind of a clunky word combination, not as velvety self-entitlement to be sure, but colloquially, use it up! If you find yourself to be, the type of person who has an inherent fear of slang words and gentle colloquialisms, you may possibly suffer from syntactical constipation. You may benefit from a few hours with an analog book, maybe something about Hunter S. Thompson or a few choice words by Sylvia Plath or James Baldwin.

by Anonymousreply 5802/28/2015

[wuote]"Nonsensical" is in the dictionary, and it's perfectly acceptable as a different form of the word nonsense. Compare "That statement is nonsense" to "That's a nonsensical statement." Both phrasings are acceptable.

"Nonsense" is a noun.

"Nonsensical" is an adjective.

by Anonymousreply 5903/01/2015

With compliments of Merriam-Webster, Online Dictionary, and Free Dictionary, please enjoy the following definitions of "entitle."

verb (used with object), entitled, entitling. 1. to give (a person or thing) a title, right, or claim to something; furnish with grounds for laying claim: His executive position entitled him to certain courtesies rarely accorded others. 2. to call by a particular title or name: What was the book entitled? 3. to designate (a person) by an honorary title.

transitive verb 1: to give a title to; designate 2: to furnish with proper grounds for seeking or claiming something This ticket entitles the bearer to free admission.

1. To give a name or title to. 2. To furnish with a right or claim to something. The coupon entitles you to a $5 discount. Everyone is entitled to the equal protection of the laws.

Please pay particular attention to the phrase, "to give (a person or thing) a title, right, or claim to something." Now, without hurling pejoratives, please explain how a person self-entitles a thing.

Kurt Vonnegut: “There’s only one rule that I know of, babies—God damn it, you’ve got to be kind.”

by Anonymousreply 6003/13/2015

Cis anything.

Now that's entitled.

by Anonymousreply 6103/13/2015

[quote]Persons whom DLers describe as "self-entitled" can be more clearly and less awkwardly described as having a false sense of entitlement.

Exactly. "Self-entitled" is just a lazy way of saying that someone has a false sense of entitlement, and it sounds idiotic.

by Anonymousreply 6203/13/2015

Word choice matters. "Self-entitled": you're emphasizing and criticizing the fact the person granted himself a special right. "False sense of entitlement": you're emphasizing that the person's belief in having the right is false and delusional. Depending on which character flaw you're attacking, you should choose your words appropriately. To do otherwise is "lazy".

by Anonymousreply 6306/25/2015
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