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Does objectifying muscular black men make me a racist or open-minded?

Musclebound, thuggish looking black guys get me weak in the knees. There, I said it. I just think that these guys are the ultimate in masculinity and hotness. Is my fetishizing racist or does it make me open-minded? I debate this within myself constantly, and I never get a clear answer. What do you think? The guys in the SFW pic are the types I'm talking about.

by Anonymousreply 157Last Tuesday at 8:16 AM

It makes you a fetishist.

by Anonymousreply 106/03/2010

More than likely, it means you have a thing for down low black queens.

by Anonymousreply 206/03/2010

You are spot on OP, black guys are hotter, i get stared a lot at the gym.

by Anonymousreply 306/03/2010

If you wouldn't find the same guy attractive if he was in a suit and tie or a polo shirt and khakis, then yeah, you are a bit racist.

by Anonymousreply 406/03/2010

OP, I know EXACTLY whay you are talking about. In the early 1990's I was robbed on a downtown N train; my wallet was stolen at knifepoint by 3 black guys who cornered me.

I swear to God that night after I called the police and credit card companies I masturbated thinking ofthose 3 guys and I exploded.

by Anonymousreply 706/03/2010

Beefy and muscular and thugish black guys are hot, but the hottest black guys in my book are the lean muscular black guys, think swimmer's build style. If they were glasses and dress conservatively, but hint at meaty thighs and bubbly butts and narrow waists and broad shoulders underneath their threads... ooh lord, my mussy gets moist just thinking about it.

If any of you saw "Chopped" this week, there was a black cheftestant on the show... he was a perfect example of this look.

by Anonymousreply 1006/03/2010

There's nothing wrong with how you are feeling. We all have are "things". What makes you racist is that your ancestors created both the "buck" uber-sexual stereotypes and imagery while emasculating Black men so that attempting to portray a twisted super-masculinity was necessary. That's all, sweetie.

by Anonymousreply 1106/03/2010

42 yr old here. I don't know the answer to your question, can you help me with mine. How do guys keep pants from falling to the ground when they wear them so low.

by Anonymousreply 1206/03/2010

The stupid caps and low-slung jeans make me want to vomit.

The rest of it is [italic]mighty fine[/italic].

by Anonymousreply 1306/03/2010

oh I agree r13, they are good looking men.

I just don't understand why you would wear your pants like that or the logistics of keeping them up.

by Anonymousreply 1406/03/2010

It's just the style. They wear belts sometimes.

OP, would you date any of the black men about whom you fantasize? I think that the response may answer your question regarding whether you may be racist.

by Anonymousreply 1506/04/2010

R15 is correct. OP, if you wouldn't introduce the object of your desire to your friends or take him home to meet the folks because he's too "ghetto," then yes, you are a racist.

by Anonymousreply 1606/04/2010

R16 confuses issues of class with issues of race. This is a damaging reductionism here in the United States, as it is crucial to be clear about one's biases. If I bring a coworker who shares my love of art and travel and fine food home to meet my mother, and he happens to be black, that's fine, I suppose. But if I hesitate to take home a nastay ghetto boy who is covered in tats and who undertakes the character of a dangerous hoodlum, I'm a racist? No, dear, I'm not. I'm exercising discretion in the form of a class bias, or vice versa. If you don't get it, fine. I'm not likely to invite you to meet my mother in any event, for other reasons.

by Anonymousreply 1806/04/2010

I can't believe anyone is still asking about low-riding pants. Did you just wake up from a coma, or what?

by Anonymousreply 1906/04/2010

A classist is just as odious as a racist, r18.

by Anonymousreply 2006/04/2010

Though I lust after them, no, a thuggish guy is not someone I would date or bring home to my family. Neither would a white guy from a similar background. If I were a chubby chaser, a fat person wouldn't be someone I'd necessarily show off either. So as another poster noted, it's probably not really about race as it is about socioeconomic and social status.

by Anonymousreply 2106/04/2010

OP/21 and R18: two elitist and absolutely clueless queens. You two should really hook up. You could make each other blissfully miserable, or even more miserable than you both already are.

by Anonymousreply 2206/04/2010

So you're a snob, r21, and one who slums at that. Congratulations.

by Anonymousreply 2306/04/2010

No, it only means you have very good taste.

by Anonymousreply 2406/04/2010

Most likely, they would have a loveless marriage but they would share lots and lots of tricks, r22.

by Anonymousreply 2506/04/2010

R16, but is it any different than some hetero guy who wants to fuck a blond bimbo? I'm sure he wouldn't want to bring her home to mom. Why is that not bigoted? If the OP wouldn't want to bring home a well-educated black man, that's a different story.

by Anonymousreply 2606/04/2010

Today she's a bimbo, tomorrow she's arm candy, r26. Straight guys aren't ashamed at bagging bimbos, dear; they show them off. The exception might be Blue Blood types, but the ailment there is obvious: the same paralyzing snobbery that is on display among some of the posters chiming in on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 2706/04/2010

I'm black and I wouldn't date a eminem type. Embarrassing!!! Imagine me sitting at the dinner table with family with some white wanna be black thug.

by Anonymousreply 2806/04/2010

Find sex hot with someone you think is beneath your social status has been around forever.

by Anonymousreply 2906/04/2010

So have misogyny, exploitation, and abuse, r29. It doesn't make them less lousy.

by Anonymousreply 3006/04/2010

"If I bring a coworker who shares my love of art and travel and fine food home to meet my mother..." Yes, that walk up the stairs from the basement you mean.

by Anonymousreply 3106/04/2010

both OP and R17 posted hot pics. mmmmm

by Anonymousreply 3206/05/2010

OP, its too bad thugs only want other thugs!

by Anonymousreply 3306/05/2010

You know who is an incredibly fine-looking black guy?

T.I/

by Anonymousreply 3406/05/2010

Since you use the word 'objectify', OP, I would say you swing more toward racism than open-mindedness. And quite a bit.

by Anonymousreply 3606/05/2010

Oh, I dunno, R36. I think that human turd at R18 and OP are in a neck and neck race to the bottom of the barrel.

by Anonymousreply 3706/05/2010

[quote]If any of you saw "Chopped" this week, there was a black cheftestant on the show... he was a perfect example of this look.

He was quite cute and he won!

by Anonymousreply 3906/05/2010

I've always been drawn to the black male stereotypes seen in movies from the thirties and forties. My favorite is Snowflake.

by Anonymousreply 4006/05/2010

[quote]What makes you racist is that your ancestors created both the "buck" uber-sexual stereotypes and imagery while emasculating Black men so that attempting to portray a twisted super-masculinity was necessary. That's all, sweetie.

Black Mary!

by Anonymousreply 4106/05/2010

Just another gratuitous black man photo. Carry on.

by Anonymousreply 4306/05/2010

There sure are a lot of name-calling posers here who think that anything other than white guilt or pretending class issues don't exist makes a person a racist. And they're hypocrites, because no one believes they don't get off on objectifying black guys into something they themselves wouldn't recognize. Terrible tendencies, and they'll be spending years alone wondering why.

Good.

by Anonymousreply 4406/05/2010

Guess what? Some black guys objectify white guys too. And some Asian guys objectify latinos who objectify native indian who objectify ,,,,,,

When it comes to sex, a little objectification is not necessarily such a bad thing. Go ahead treat me like a sex object. Just don't make me write bad cheques.

by Anonymousreply 4606/05/2010

OP, I love handsome black men. Not necessarily thugish. For me there is NOTHING hotter than a hot, black man. I don't care what it's called or how it's judged. I LOVE THEM!

by Anonymousreply 4706/05/2010

I'm hot for 50 Cent

by Anonymousreply 4806/06/2010

"Though I lust after them, no, a thuggish guy is not someone I would date or bring home to my family. Neither would a white guy from a similar background. If I were a chubby chaser, a fat person wouldn't be someone I'd necessarily show off either." Do the guys you're having sex with care that you're only interested in them to the extent that you find them dangerous/unsuitable/a secret vice? That seems like a more important question than what we think about it.

by Anonymousreply 4906/06/2010

bump

by Anonymousreply 5006/07/2010

A hot black guy dropped trou in the locker room just as I was slowly passing by him the other night. He timed it perfectly for me to get a good look. OMG, at least eight inches long, thick, and semi hard. I wonder if he got it half erect because he knew I wanted to see it? Whatever the case, I've been thinking about that perfect dick of his ever since.

by Anonymousreply 5108/22/2010

Maybe you should just forget about race. I am black and the guys you describe are incredibly hot to me but I just think of them as hot guys and not hot black guys. It's not like you're attracted to every single black guy. Hot is hot, that's all there is to it.

by Anonymousreply 5208/22/2010

For R10:

by Anonymousreply 5308/22/2010

Thanks for that link (r52). There's nothing hotter than the kind of man in that video. Wow!...

by Anonymousreply 5408/22/2010

correction: thanks for the link (R53)

by Anonymousreply 5508/22/2010

Why do you need to ask?

by Anonymousreply 5608/22/2010

Neither. It just means you want to fuck muscular black guys.

Next!

by Anonymousreply 5708/22/2010

r33 he is very hawt!

by Anonymousreply 5808/22/2010

r43's pic is awesome.

by Anonymousreply 5908/22/2010

^ I meant, all gay white men.

by Anonymousreply 6108/22/2010

Why don't you ask him while he is pile driving you on his long, thick-as-a-baby's-arm uncut cock and the large, orange-sized balls slapping your ass?

Between your screams of ecstasy, of course.

by Anonymousreply 6208/22/2010

No, r60/r61. Plenty of white gay men on here have made it perfectly clear they do not desire black guys.

I think they are narrow minded, personally, but to each his own.

by Anonymousreply 6308/22/2010

OP, it means you have superior taste, dude.

by Anonymousreply 6406/15/2012

yep

by Anonymousreply 6507/01/2012

Last week these two big muscular black guys delivered my new parlor furniture. My hole was twitching the entire time. I wanted them to spit roast me like nobody's business.

by Anonymousreply 6607/01/2012

R48 = timberlake

by Anonymousreply 6707/01/2012

What about Eric, the Black Russian OP?

by Anonymousreply 6807/01/2012

When your pants are so low, like they are in OP's pic, why bother even putting them on?

It's like putting a dress on, over your head, then just stopping when it's wrapped around your neck.

by Anonymousreply 6907/01/2012

It depends what you mean by "objectifying"? If you are merely saying that you have a strong sexual response to muscular black men, it has nothing to do with objectification, and is merely having a turn on - like a turn on some people have for blonde men in their 20s or silver haired guys in their 40s. Or hairy white guys with beards, or Italian guys, or Asian guys, or guys with bubble butts. It has nothing to do with a feeling of superiority or dehumanization or with being open-minded.

It's just sex.

by Anonymousreply 7007/01/2012

pics please

by Anonymousreply 7107/13/2012

Fitness guru Shaun T has married a dude!

by Anonymousreply 7210/22/2012

dd

by Anonymousreply 7311/21/2012

People need to learn the difference between what is race-related and being a racist. It's a world of difference.

by Anonymousreply 7411/21/2012

Stay away from the brothas, you piece of white trash. They belong to us.

by Anonymousreply 7511/21/2012

it makes you horny, OP

by Anonymousreply 7611/21/2012

It depends OP do you objectify Bieber? If not then yes you are a racist.

by Anonymousreply 7711/21/2012

Dd

by Anonymousreply 7812/08/2012

more pics please

by Anonymousreply 7912/18/2012

RACIST. If you base something on race you're a racist.

by Anonymousreply 8012/18/2012

My desire for them transcends any judgment anyone can make. There is no one in the world hotter than a hot black man.

by Anonymousreply 8212/18/2012

I don't think people are racist for finding a particular ethnic group or feature attractive. However, such people should be careful how they express their attractions. Using words like "black meat," "black d***," "hot tamale," or "black buck" are widely viewed as offensive and racist. They reflect blatant objectification of a person's race or ethnic background in a most offensive manner.

by Anonymousreply 8312/18/2012

Most buff muscular dudes who spend lots of time in the gym are exhibitionists who desire some level of objectification.

by Anonymousreply 8412/21/2012

My friend only dates black guys. I think he prefers the Wall Street type, but he is currently dating a trainer with a body to die for. He says black guys equal less drama.

by Anonymousreply 8512/21/2012

I think it's only racist if your ONLY interactions with black people (besides dealing with service personell) are through "thug" hookups. If you're uncomfortable around black people and make no attempt to treat them as equals and get to know some of them on a deeper level, then yes, you are fetishizing an entire race, and in the embodiment of one of the worst and most threatening incarnation (a "trashy thug" as opposed to just black guys in general). If you like black men sexually, it stands to reason that you should have respect and affinity for black people in general (manifested in non-sexual situations and relationships). If you don't, and you just like them as sex machines, you're really not treating them any better than a convenient sexual aid.

I think fetishizing a particular race is worse than excluding one from your potential sex partner pool. I'm far more suspicious of a white guy who dates another race exclusively, than one who admits he's not into a particular race. The former seems like more of a deliberate effort with a (possibly convoluted) motivation behind it, while the latter just seems like typical social conditioning to gravitate towards people that you likely share common experiences and associations with.

by Anonymousreply 8612/21/2012

Only a little.

by Anonymousreply 8712/21/2012

no such thing as race in humans, what we think of as race is a social and cultural construct.

I think the conundrum OP refers to is, 'if I don't prefer The Other, I'm considered racist, if I DO prefer The Other, I'm fetishistic and also racist.'

I'm 'mixed race' but was raised in rural white america and can't recall any prejudice coming my parents. it was only when I moved away to an urban area that I began to encounter different 'races' and the accompanying prejudice and to this day resist internalizing them.

it's like some giant advertising campaign, so-and-so's eat/drive/are hung like/act like this that is reinforced and echo chambered at us constantly every day

and because of our constant search for validation, whenever we encounter something that fits these programmed biases, it reinforces it.

I harbor more prejudice and stereotypes now than when I left home, and being aware of how that came to be keeps me from turning into a bigot.

by Anonymousreply 8812/21/2012

What I find funny is when people say only dating white men isn't racist and that it's a preference. Oh please. To discriminate by race is the definition of racism.

by Anonymousreply 8912/21/2012

It is funny how people who say they are only attracted to one race usually also have views that are racist or bigoted, although usually disguised.

by Anonymousreply 9012/21/2012

[quote]What I find funny is when people say only dating white men isn't racist and that it's a preference. Oh please. To discriminate by race is the definition of racism.

I've no problem with that as long as you also agree that Asians who date only white men (or women) are also racist as per your definition. I often see only whites get condemned as racist for wanting to date other whites, but not Asians, many of whom will only date white people.

by Anonymousreply 9112/21/2012

Actually [R92], what you said about black women only dating white men for more reasons doesn't make it any less racist, there's probably some self hate involved. It applies with everyone, if you discriminate against someone SOLEY on their race, that is the definition of racism regardless of if it's friendship or more in my opinion. Mainly because you're basically writing off an entire group of people based on what? Melanin in the skin? It's crazy that people think excluding a race doesn't make them prejudice against one....how does that make sense?

by Anonymousreply 9312/21/2012

yeah bro

by Anonymousreply 9405/07/2014

H

by Anonymousreply 9505/09/2014

Day-yum. Thanks for that r94!

by Anonymousreply 9605/09/2014

I'm still cherry, but I want my first time to be with a big dick black man. He won't be too rough will he?

by Anonymousreply 9705/09/2014

The first answer was on target -- you're more a fetishist than a racist. Though many will disagree with the definition, "racist" usually means the person is an active participant in the race-based negative discrimination and oppression of a non-dominant race (relative to the culture at large).

Me, I'll confess, I am a white guy with a few "types" of my own and one of them is a handsome, well-put-together man of color with a fit body, tight sense of grooming/style, and a distinctive sense of fashion. The antithesis of thug. Something about the aesthetic of unusual good looks and a face/race/skin that is very different from my own. Fortunately NYC has quite a few hot men who fit this description. Every other day there's someone on the subway like this and I want so badly to come home with him and slide his clothes off... slowly... as we start to make out...

by Anonymousreply 9805/09/2014

Being attracted to dark skin or African features doesn't make you racist. It doesn't make you special, enlightened or more evolved, either.

Fetishizing black men for being "thuggish" most definitely is racist.

by Anonymousreply 9905/09/2014

No, Alexander. He'll be perfectly kind and gentle. I know this because I'm psychic. How lucky for you that I was here to answer your question.

by Anonymousreply 10005/09/2014

R100, Thank you sooooo much, today WAS my lucky day, you are the best!!!!! Are you the resident psychic here at DL.

by Anonymousreply 10105/09/2014

I wish there were more interracial gay porn. Unfortunately, most gay porn is white-white or black-black.

by Anonymousreply 10305/09/2014

Go to my gym OP

by Anonymousreply 10405/10/2014

hawt bro

by Anonymousreply 10507/27/2014

I wish there were a site devoted exclusively to these types of guys who escort!

by Anonymousreply 10607/27/2014

OP = Timberlake

by Anonymousreply 10707/28/2014

They're not my type at all. I like muscular black men, but the thug type is just not for me.

by Anonymousreply 10807/28/2014

OP, if you like them how can you be racist?

by Anonymousreply 10907/28/2014

R35 - i hope you are joking on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 11007/28/2014

I objectify and I like being objectified. I find it's an essential element of sexual attraction. Not the only element, mind you. It's a necessary but not sufficient condition for a relationship IMHO.

by Anonymousreply 11207/28/2014

Muscles are hot

by Anonymousreply 11307/28/2014

How about this guy?

by Anonymousreply 11407/28/2014

ONLY on DataLounge does even NOTICING that someone is NOT WHITE make you a virulent racist! If you then observe behavior different from your own, then you are HITLER.

All caught up?

by Anonymousreply 11507/28/2014

Singe?

by Anonymousreply 11707/30/2014

[quote]But thuggish behavior is a real turn-off

Says you!

by Anonymousreply 11807/30/2014

hot

by Anonymousreply 11907/31/2014

Well i like low pants mens and tattoos see i have one and he do too and yes i would take him home to meet mother stop hateing cause you can't be like thim

by Anonymousreply 12008/09/2014

Huh

by Anonymousreply 12108/09/2014

gurl...

by Anonymousreply 12208/09/2014

You have great taste, OP

by Anonymousreply 12308/27/2014

If objectifying them is a crime, then let me do the time!

by Anonymousreply 12408/27/2014

More pics bruh!

by Anonymousreply 12511/19/2014

Hot

by Anonymousreply 12601/11/2015

I'm impressed that this thread has survived this long.

by Anonymousreply 12701/11/2015

It needs pics

by Anonymousreply 12801/14/2015

d

by Anonymousreply 12901/14/2015

Pics please

by Anonymousreply 13101/27/2015

Black dudes are hellahot

by Anonymousreply 13202/14/2015

It just means you have great taste and know what sex is supposed to be like.

by Anonymousreply 13302/14/2015

Black dudes are hellahot

by Anonymousreply 13402/14/2015

OP you can look and admire a black man. Just don't push yourself on them. It's simple to figure out.

by Anonymousreply 13502/14/2015

Trio

by Anonymousreply 13602/21/2015

Dominican

by Anonymousreply 13702/27/2015

curls

by Anonymousreply 13802/27/2015

d

by Anonymousreply 13905/05/2015

I think the short-lived UK series "Sirens" would be relevant to your interests, OP. Game of Thrones star Richard Madden plays a gay character that shares your fetish. The show did a pretty decent job of showing how problematic race fetishism is.

Anyway, the good bits start after the 1 minute mark.

by Anonymousreply 14005/05/2015

interesting

by Anonymousreply 14105/05/2015

press play, bruh

by Anonymousreply 14205/05/2015

ok

by Anonymousreply 14305/15/2015

The people objectifying Black men are the ones saying it's fetishist to be attracted to them.

No, you like what you like and they're the ones obsessed with boxing people off. It's even hotter that it pisses-off the identity politics, self-obsessed drama queens.

Notice how this ends-up about them, their interpretation of YOUR sexual preferences and they don't even allow you to have a say in your own tastes and opinions?

So sick of these Fascist, attention whores, who pretend bullying people into homogeneous styles and opinions is for the good of everyone.

by Anonymousreply 14405/15/2015

I kind of want Tyler Perry to take me, dressed as Madea. Is that fetishist?

by Anonymousreply 14505/15/2015

I objectify all day every day, race irrelevant. All I see are bodies that I want to twist into all sorts of different position and bang repeatedly. I am perfectly normal.

by Anonymousreply 14605/15/2015

i think it shows a progressive open minded view. good for you op keep up the good work

by Anonymousreply 14705/15/2015

R146 It's these asexual Social Justice! types. They're obsessed with horny-shaming men.

by Anonymousreply 14805/15/2015

It makes you a Kardashian.

by Anonymousreply 14905/15/2015

Speechless

by Anonymousreply 15005/15/2015

Oh my goodness! Look at that butt!

by Anonymousreply 15206/25/2015

hottest men on the planet

by Anonymousreply 15306/25/2015

It makes you have great taste, dude.

by Anonymousreply 154Last Tuesday at 7:58 AM

OP, sweetie, its not that complicated. You're a dinge queen.

by Anonymousreply 155Last Tuesday at 8:02 AM

You're a whore, darlin !

And you want to roughed up, don't you ?

by Anonymousreply 156Last Tuesday at 8:14 AM

How about a little Hershey Kiss? šŸ’‹

by Anonymousreply 157Last Tuesday at 8:16 AM
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