If Sharon Tate had lived

Charlie Manson could beat you for an Oscar.

I believe if Sharon Tate had lived, she would have become a better actress. I really do.

R2, I do, too. The experience of sharing a life with Roman Polanski and his world would have led to such great things for her. (I know, Mary!). Plus, we may well have been spared the hysteria over his dalliances in the 70s.

Not unless she she had survived the attack and clawed her way back. The Academy loves that triumph over personal struggle shit and issues awards willy-nilly for it.

Oh, or if she had portrayed a famous person and gotten the look and the voice just right. Bonus points if any signing is involved. The Academy REALLY laps that up.

Glenn darling, you really should leave the Oscar discussions to those who know what they are talking about.

Hell, Pee Wee Herman and Pamela Anderson are better actors.

since we haven't really seen enough of Miss Tate's work when alive to know what she could or could not have done, there's no way of knowing.

She was a terrible actress. No depth, no range. Talent does not "rub off" just by being near it, either. She might have gotten better but she was known for being beautiful and nice, not for being a gifted actress. So, I would guess that she would not have gotten any closer to an Oscar than attending the show.

r7, please. There is ample evidence of her work out there to see where she was "artistically" at the time of her demise. Girl needed a near death experience to gain some depth and..well, you see how THAT turned out.

No matter what gets said, she was pretty much universally known for being nice and beautiful and sweet, qualities that made her an anomaly in Hollywood and makes it especially horrific for the way her short life ended.

For Sharon, the jokes stop short with regard to the Manson invasion. Eternally shocking, sad and terribly frightful. Bless her and all those who suffered at the hands of those crazy, evil people.

Sharon Tate need never have WON an "Oscar" to be in the national zeitgeist/conciousness. Manson pretty much sealed her fate in that regard.

No she wasn't a classically trained artiste of the highest caliber like myself.

Who knows? She would have taken some time off to have her baby. Then again, Sharon would have waited years and years to come out and do another film. That's if she had never been murdered by the Manson people.

I don't recall you ever licking your lips to illustrate depth and craziness, Helen.

[quote] She was a terrible actress. No depth, no range. Talent does not "rub off" just by being near it, either. She might have gotten better but she was known for being beautiful and nice, not for being a gifted actress.

Don't you hate when that happens?

If Sandra could beat you, Pia Zadora and Sharon Tate could too, M.

Truth hurts, doesn't it.

"She was a terrible actress. No depth, no range. "

So?

If Sharon Tate had lived... Roman Polanski would never have raped that girl.

Of course he would have! Sharon would have been much too old for him by then.

If Sharon Tate were alive today, right now she would be clawing frantically at the inside of her coffin.

SHaron Tate would have been Hollywood's hottest sex symbols. She has a natral beauty and Raquel Welch could not even measure up to Sharon's standards. WHile Sharon has the natural look in face and body Raquel has to spen $$$$$$$ for plastic surgery and other corrective procedures to make her look like a "sex symbol". In addition Sharon did not appear to be narcisssistic.

She has less acting talent than Farrah Fawcett

She was the next Marilyn. Well, she shared that honor with Julie Christie.

Sharon would be long forgotten if not for the tradegy that befell her and Roman would never have been a good husband or father.

Those couples makes the best looking sons: tall, gorgeous mothers and homely-cute fathers.

I honestly believe that Roman Polanski was involved in her murder. He gave a good performance when he cried during the press conference to talk about the murders, though. Also, my guess is that the baby was not his.

I think Sharon would have put her career on hold and devoted herself to her son. By the late 70s Polanski would have divorced her and given her a nice settlement. She would have reappeared on TV in the late 1980s as a curiosity.

She was a horrible actress.

Is 'The Fearless Vampire Killers' any good? I find the cover to be creepy:

This is so cute!!!

She was probably very naive.

Sharon Tate was a ham!!!

"I can't see myself doing Shakespeare... I would LOVE to do light comedy."

It's a shame that when people think of the Bard, they think of heavy revenge drama with dense dialogue. He wrote some of the funniest plays ever. Obviously, Sharon had never heard of Rosalind in As you Like It.

Next?

Little did Sharon know that the event of her death would be akin to Macbeth or Hamlet.

She would have got the part of Abby in Knots Landing instead of Donna Mills

She was, in fact, a very good actress who could do both comedy and serious roles. I think people can only remember her as beautiful, but she was in fact a gifted actress.

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Agree with r46. Or she could have been one of the original Charlie's Angels. Would have easily bested Farrah as the national poster pin up.

She was a TERRIBLE actress! I knew the minute I saw her in "The Beverly Hillbillies" that something needed to be done.

While some of her performances clearly show her lack of experience, I believe she was on her way to becoming quite a good actress. (Sure, she's terrible in VALLEY OF THE DOLLS but then everyone in that film is, with the exception of Hel - sorry, Susan Hayward.) Her 'debut' performance in the gothic horror EYE OF THE DEVIL is mesmerizing: her (allegedly dubbed) voice makes her sound stiff and clumsy, yet she has undeniable presence, beyond her striking beauty.

She was fine, if not particularly memorable, in THE FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS but her last movies earned her good reviews: she definitely showed a flair for comedy in THE WRECKING CREW (an amusing spoof on James Bond starring Dean Martin) and in her very last film 12+1. Had she lived, she might have become quite a gifted comic actress, in the vein of a modern times Marilyn.

So freaky to think Tate would be 70 YEARS OLD today - same age as Linda Evans, Stephanie Powers, Holland Taylor, Blythe Danner, Sharon Gless, Judge Judy - you get the idea.

Her child would be .....44

That beautiful face, and body, would long be gone

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It wouldn't be gone, r40. It would be preserved in plastic and botox, just like the rest of them.

She'd be the center square for the win.

She'd be in Paris making nudies! NUDIES!

G,

I understand from Anjelica that Charlie passed you by because you weren't --- worth killing.

And it's very funny that you, of all people, would tell me that anyone could beat me for an Oscar. Among the six of us who have beat you to date, Linda Hunt did it playing a male dwarf.

I guess you should have walked around on your knees in NOBBS - God knows you've had practice.

Come over some time. I've just opened my third awards room in the cottage. It's starting to look like the trophy wing at Notre Dame around here!

OP, please die.

If Sharon had lived, she would have done movies like The Last of Sheila (Raquel's part) or Shampoo or Heaven Can Wait.

'Tony......TONY....Someone......help'

Tony, why does Miriam not like ME?

Tony, WHY does Miriam not LIKE me?

Tony, why DOES Miriam not like me?

Tony, why does....oh fuck it. Let's shoot the scene.

[quote]You can't judge Sharon's talent by Valley of the Dolls. That script and the director were just hopeless, the most talented actress in the world would have sucked in it.

So true. They had to have realized at some point how bad it was. I'm reminded of Dyan Cannon who at the premiere of The Love Machine--an even worse Susann adaptation--was laughing so loudly at her own performance, she had to leave the theatre.

Parkins came off best in Valley. Remember, she was only known for playing the town tramp in Peyton Place on TV. So playing a virgin was definitely a change of pace for her.

But, IMO, only Parkins and Tate came across as human. Hayward and Duke were just ridiculous, due to the script and direction.

What about me ? I just took a dump in my dressing room wastebasket, and stole my sequined pantsuit to wear at my concerts. Who's the loser now?

Here are the actresses who beat Meryl

Maggie Smith

Katharine Hepburn

Shirley MacLaine

Geraldine Page

Cher

Jodie Foster

Kathy Bates

Susan Sarandon

Gwyneth Paltrow

Catherine Zeta Jones

Hilary Swank

Helen Mirren

Kate Winslet

Sandra Bullock

OMG, R40, what you have done is unforgiveable. You have begun the self-destruct sequence for the end of the universe.

R53 Why ???

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She'd be dragging her tits along the sidewalk.

Honestly, I believe that Rosemary LaBianca had a better shot at Oscar gold than Sharon.

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Very few women hold up as well as , say, Raquel, who's 73. If you've ever seen a pic of Tate's mother ( who, granted was a great crusader for victims rights), you'll see what was Sharon's future, physically. Very large woman, with a double chin. The reality is, Tate could easily have been a great grandmother by now, most likely long divorced from Polansky, and probably long retired from acting too, after marrying a movie, or TV executive. Wasn't she discovered by, and the mistress of, producer Martin Ransohoff ?

She was a horrible actress. Had she lived, she would've been as relevant as Kate Capshaw and Rita Wilson.

She had a mannequin quality about her- beautiful but stiff and fragile. A wispy demeanor and a weak voice.

She probably would have done a few more big screen movies. Then some TV work between babies and marriages. But I put her in the category of Alana Stewart and Peggy Lipton: Hollywood Wives.

If she only knew how famous she was going to be..

R58 Cannon's role was loosely based on socialite Babe Paley, so Dyan was out of her element a bit.

I'm convinced The Love Machine was the causes of the Susann-Truman Capote feud. Capote was very close to Babe Paley (until their famous falling- out) and he must have deeply resented Susann portraying Babe as an adultereress.

I love Dyan Cannon in " The Last Of Sheila". Nothing like Sue Mengers (who she was based on), but did that role well, and looked great.

A beauty but horrible as an actor thrust to VOTD by her perv husband, no talent, watch her performance in it , tinny, thin, the only quality is her constantly shedding her pajamas by the pool to expose her body, yes a true vixen , who knows maybe with time and direction she could of maybe became somewhat of an actress , many after her have achieved that, oh well rip st.

Sharon Tate would have been a gigantic movie star in the 1970s, with a career rivaling Jane Fonda's and Faye Dunaway's. She was a breathtaking women, she oozed star power and was a marvelous actress. Her scenes in "Valley of the Dolls" are so touching. Additionally, she had the gift of comedy when she spoke of her bust exercises in Valley of the Dolls. "To hell with them, let 'em droop!" I think, had that lovely lady lived, she would have been one of the finest actresses to grace the screen in the 1970s and 1980s. It's so sad.

She might have been Ali McGraw.

It happened to Ann "Kitten With A Whip" Margaret. Two Oscar noms, Carnal Knowledge and Tommy.

She would be old, ugly, fat and broke.

I've often wondered, if they'd have lived, would Jay Sebring still be her stylist?

Bump

If Sharon had lived then perhaps by now the Tate-Karen Carpenter sex tape might have leaked.

Bump

She was the standout in Valley of the Dolls. The only one who came close to a nuanced performance.

R73 agreed. Perhaps she would have gone the Ann Margret route.

She might have been good in Tess