Which Christian denomination is the most homophobic?

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I'm not sure Mormons are really Christian.

Mormons are not Christians.

Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian denominations.

Jehovah's Witnesses consider themselves Christians. I used to be one.

The 7 million or so Jehovah's Witnesses think they are Christian.

I don't know of any major denomination that considers Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses as Christian other than themselves.

And who made them arbiters, R7?

JW are the most homophobic but Mormons are by far the most dangerous enemies we have (SBs are completely ineffectual).

The bible is the arbiter r8

Which version R10?

I'm the son of a Southern Baptist minister.

The SBC--formed, by the way, from Baptists in the 19th century who believed slavery was justified because Blacks were descended from Noah's son Ham and God had doomed them to a life of servitude--is the most evil corrupt Republican machine you can imagine.

Then again, I don't know much about Mormons other than the prop 8 stuff. But if Southern Baptists were big in CA the way they are in the south, you can bet your sweet gay ass they would have poured more money into it than the Mormons ever could.

And when the issue eventually comes up in a southern state, they will be out in full force.

The list was badly composed. As was noted above, Mormons and JWs are not Christians. I would have added Pentecostals to the list. Believe me, they and Baptists would have us executed if they could.

Why are so many people here saying that Mormons and Jehova's Witnesses aren't Christians? Of course they are! I'm Jewish myself, and even I know that. (You'll find the JW under "5.3 Bible Student groups".)

Catholicism is not a "Christian denomination." It is the world's one true church and true faith.

some Christains are not homophobic, they just dont want gays and what they do push into their faces, like 2 gays getting married etc.

Christan means you accept the Nicene Creed. The basics of the Christian faith are there. Mormons believe that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are all physical beings that have sex and procreate... three separate 'gods', living on planets somewhere. They believe all Mormon men are gods who will get their own planets to populate. Women go to the planets of their husbands. Your wife has to follow you wherever you go in the afterlife. The JWs also do not believe in the Trinity or accept the Creed. Both are cults.

Southern Baptists

JWs believe in Christ. Therefore, they're Christians.

Ask one the next time they're at your door.

There is no church more gay-friendly than the Catholic church. Well, maybe the Episcopalians.

R17 is right. Any religion can have Jesus as it's central deity, but unless they accept the Nicene Creed they are not considered part of The Church and therefore are not Christians.

I can't choose. PLEASE don't make me choose!!!

While some protestant Christian denominations do hold to the Nicene Creed (e.g., Episcopalians and United Methodists), there are others which do not (e.g., Southern Baptists). One could make a distinction between holding to the doctrines set out in the Nicene Creed, as opposed to the Nicene Creed itself. Most "orthodox" Christians (note the lower case "o" in the word "orthodox") consider LDS and JW to be cults. While they may believe in Jesus Christ and therefore are arguably "Christian" to that extent, they either add doctrines which have no basis in the Bible, or they take away doctrines which are accepted by orthodox Christians. Many also consider the Church of Christ to be cultic. I would have to agree that the most homophobic denominations are independent Baptists, followed by Southern Baptists.

I didn't know the Southern Baptists did not accept the Nicene Creed... wow, what a surprise.

Southern Baptist theology is violently evil. But the church itself is decentralized. Individual congregations have some leeway (thus Carter and Clinton were SBs). And beyond that, disorganized. Mormons are much more dangerous despite their small numbers for several reasons. One is that they follow orders from SLC. Second is that they have no professional priesthood. Third is that they enforce a strict tithe. While Catholics and SBs garner 1.5 - 2%, Mormons gather more than 10%, but not having to pay any priests, their outflow is much lower, so every year they have to think of what to do with billions of dollars rolling in. By now they have the largest single block of capital in the country. Yes, Catholics have real estate and so on, but the Mormons have MONEY and they use it to control companies, media, and groups like the Boy Scouts, as well as to put down gays.

The Catholic Church is a cult of Pedophiles, ruled by an ex-Nazi with billions of dollars in hard cash, constantly replaced, by 20% of the world population. How can any other denomination out-corrupt that?

A Christian in my family posted this on FB. There are more and more Christians who feel this way.

Since we did this thread, Mormons have gotten better, a little; and Russian Orthodox have totally gone off the deep end.

And Mormons are still not Christian. I do t know about JWs.

Mormons seem to be rather new to Homohate, as they discovered "The Homosexual Menace" can be a great recruiting tool $$$.

Don't forget all those Eastern Orthodox Xtians, e.g., Greek, Russian, Bulgarian, Ukrainian, Romanian, Syrian, Armenians, Serbian, etc. 300+ million VERY conservative Xtians far more homophobic than any of the Western Xtian rites.

R20 The Catholic Church is friendly to gay...priests. And that's about it.

I'd say the Scienos are pretty awful.

Many fundie Christian churches don't even believe Catholics are true Christians.

Southern Baptists do believe in the Nicene Creed. The Southern Baptists are squarely within orthodox, historic Christian theology. They are conservative evangelicals, whose beliefs are definitely within the Creed.

I's say Roman Catholic is the least particularly with the Pope doing what he can to drag religious views into the 21st century. Also having grown up Catholic I never met anyone who was very dogmatic. Everyone just wanted to make it through church on Sunday's and go back to doing whatever it is they do. After all if you fuck up just go confess, say a few prayers & you're good.

Pentecostals!!!

S baptists don't believe homosexuality is real, they say gay kids are confused because of some past experience (usually in relation to father or father figure) and they just need to pray more and harder to resolve the confusion.

Church of Christ is the worst of any I've been around.

(Before anyone gets their bowels in an uproar, this is not the same group as United Church of Christ, a liberal Christian denomination.)

The Mormons are homo-haters-come-lately types. They probably always hated us but they're fairly new to the "get 'em at the ballot box" strategery.

The Southern Baptists and all their fundie christer pals are the ones who've been trying to pink triangle us at the ballot box for lo, these many years. They, in concert with Republican swine, put all those hate the gays measures and anti-gay constitutional amendments on state ballots. The Republicans were just playing their usual dirty politics, most serious politicos don't give a fuck about anyone's sexual orientation. They'll use it if it gets them votes. It's the christian fundamentalists who make common cause with their Taliban fundie brothers and sisters and actually want us dead.

A couple of very earnest Mormon missionaries in starched white shirts drove up and came to the door last Wednesday morning. They asked if I had any questions about the LDS church, and if they could discuss the election results with me.

I was really, extremely, creeped out. No! No!

They got in their SUV and split.

Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians

Christian Borle.

Those who didn't pick JW haven't investigated this cult thoroughly enough. They've also been accused of covering up pedophile behavior among church elders. Worse they are against higher education, especially for women.

I will agree JW don't have the financial resources nor the expansive growth of the others on OP's list.

When you think of the Christian right you think of those fucktards the Southern Evanglicals (Baptists). I don't see how there can be another answer.

The Southern Baptists send missionaries to African nations to preach death to gays.

The Mormon cult spends millions of dollars to campaign against equality for gays.

Most Protestant denominations and non demoninational types are very homophobic more so than Roman Catholics. I think Anglicans/ Episcopalians are the least homophobic.

Having said that, they are all pretty homophobic in some sense.

Russian orthodox clergy are extremely homophobic and have played a major role in the increase in persecution of and violence towards gays/lesbians in Russia.

Mormon beliefs are not based on the Christian bible, but rather what the pedophile Smith dreamed up and wrote down, partially to bring acceptance to his pedophilia. They believe Christ came to the New World, and that when you die you go to a planet in outer space. Def not Christian beliefs.

I have always been interested in both Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses. (Yes, I think they're both cults.)

The Jehovah Witness Bible is purposely mistranslated in placed to support their weird theology.

Southern Baptists do not recite or subscribe to the Nicene Creed because they don't believe in having creeds. But their stated beliefs are firmly with the tenets of the Nicene Creed. Crazy but that's how it works. Catholics officially oppose homosexuality but at least in the US on a family level it's largely no big deal. Polls indicate strong acceptance of gay marriage among US Catholics. Of course there are the Trads in Catholic Church who homophobes. Finally, I think the E. Orthodox got a low vote because people don't know who they are.

Just in my personal experience, Southern Baptists. I work with several Jehovah's Witnesses who know I'm gay, and they're very warm and kind to me. When we've ended up sharing some personal info, they've reminded me that they didn't agree with homosexuality, but again, they've accepted me as a friend, despite our differences. I've only experienced actual meanness to me for being gay from Southern Baptists. And, growing up as a Catholic, I received a lot of meanness from Southern Baptists for being Catholic.

[quote]Both are cults.

ALL religions are cults. When you grow up, you'll figure that out on your own.

Eh ... religion is a bit more nuanced than that, r52

My experience with Southern Baptists jibes with R51. They can be personally hateful to gays AND Catholics.

Are Southern Baptists a strictly American thing? Do they have a presence in Europe or other parts of the world?

Southern Baptists were the Baptists of the Confederate States! They were formed because they supported slavery when they broke away from Baptists in the northern states. Ironically, they send missionaries to Africa, R55. Also I am certain there are small numbers elsewhere. I know there are Southern Baptists in Russia where they are persecuted by the Russian Orthodox.