Inflation is going to kill Trumpism.

I wouldn't bet on it: If inflation hurts the brown and black colored people as much as it hurts them, they're all in for it.

Inflation is the one unforgivable sin in America and the President is blamed. Always.

R1 wins. Thread closed.

(And in this case he’ll actually deserve the blame.)

We have had almost 10 years of Trumpism (ever since he came down the escalator.)

Covid, January 6, inflation, recession, military in the streets, none of it has mattered and none of it will.

That is what a cult is.

I know a Trumpster who blamed Biden for inflation. Now that it’s not improving she thinks it’s just one of those things that’s cyclical and can’t be controlled.

That’s some grade A Trumpiness.

On the other hand, she’s probably just repeating what she hears in right-wing media.

This chart is deceptive.

The inflation Biden got blamed for was not in 2024. It was in 2021, especially high in 2022, and in 2023. And overall inflation under him was not extremely high, but it had been low for the previous 20 years. The restarting of our economy after a near shutdown seems like the likeliest explanation, but he got the blame.

Trump’s unforced inflation has not yet hit 2022 levels, though it seems like it will. That’s when the tide starts to turn.

It’s not deceptive. It shows that Biden and the Fed had succeeded in bringing inflation down well before the election but it did not matter. People don’t forgive a burst of inflation. Every President in modern times who has had inflation has not been re-elected except Reagan because people still blamed Carter.

Bringing down the inflation rate doesn’t do a lot if prices jumped for three years before. If they’re up 15% in three years and then only go up 3 percent, it doesn’t really feel like relief. That’s why it didn't matter in the election and that’s why the graph is unconvincing. Just like the fact that US inflation was lower than world inflation didn’t matter in the election.

If Democrats want to win, it’s not going to be by flashing gotcha charts that don’t line up with how people actually are living.

It’s almost impossible that there won’t be inflation because of tariffs. Which is what seems so crazy - that they know it will create inflation yet are counting on the MAGA nationalism theme to override people’s discontent at inflation

The whole fight about the Fed chair being replaced with someone who will LOWER interest rates makes it even more insane. Low interest rates CAUSE inflation.

The whole economic policy of this administration seems to be to CREATE inflation. Even for cultists, I can’t imagine that ongoing inflation won’t make them upset. And ultimately, the only voters who matter are only the 3-5% who aren’t decided/independent. Ongoing economic pain may sway them - if Dems can find halfway decent candidates.

Mentioning "Trump" and "seep" in the same post skeeves me.

Here is the original. You will note that it lacks the doctoring up from the OP’s Bluesky link, specifically a crooked line dividing Trump and Biden’s term and each President’s name (in different font sizes).

Inflation should start to hit hard in the next 5 months. Stay tuned....

[quote] Bringing down the inflation rate doesn’t do a lot if prices jumped for three years before. If they’re up 15% in three years and then only go up 3 percent, it doesn’t really feel like relief. That’s

I realize you are probably just stating stupid beliefs that democrats get punished for, but , in case people don’t realize that, you almost never want deflation if it can be avoided (it usually occurs only in a recession), What the chart shows is generally the best outcome. You don’t generally expect prices to go down or want them to once they have gone up. Just wanted to make sure people didn’t mistake you for advocating something stupid.

[quote] Here is the original. You will note that it lacks the doctoring up from the OP’s Bluesky link, specifically a crooked line dividing Trump and Biden’s term and each President’s name (in different font sizes).

So what? When Trump took office is an immutable fact. Pointing it out on the chart does not change the data.

The original chart was published in a Business School setting and the BlueSky poster was using it to make a political point. Nothing nefarious.

Good lord, R11 is being ridiculous. "Deviations from Pre-Tariff Trends" - do you see that chart title in the source you provide? Do you see the downward dotted lines, indicating that price indices were trending downward for a year but started shooting up in early 2025?

No it won't.

MAGAts blame Biden.

[quote]Eventually the truth will seep through to his base.

No, it won't.

It'll be the libs, dems, Obama, or Biden's fault.

It'll energize them into enacting more and more draconian laws to "fix" the problem or prevent the libs from destroying the country even more.

When things go to hell, people tend toward more and more authoritarian and draconian measure to "fix" the problem. They tend to be more susceptible to platitudes that promise a return to prosperity.

However, I don't think the opposite is true. When things are good, I don't think people have more time to ponder what freedoms they've lost. I don't think they say to themselves, let's move up Maslow's hierarchy now that the bottom level is covered or worse, the self-actualization at the top leads to even more selfish choices.

The first round of stimulus that Trump signed in March 2020 was very much needed and probably should have been more. The economy was absolutely on its knees. It should have been followed up with another one in summer/fall 2020, but by then Rethugs had reverted to their “don’t help poor people” holes and only passed a minimal second stimulus in December 2020, by which point it was already too little too late.

By 2021, the economy was solidly rebounding. Timing is everything, and in March 2021 Biden signed the biggest stimulus package of the three. But it was too much combined with a rebounding economy. Too much too late. It did contribute to inflation in some manner, though how much is up for debate. But it is fair to say that Biden owns some of that.

Today’s inflation however can lay100% of the blame at Trump’s feet. The Biden inflation effect had long faded away, and Trump policies are the singular cause of it. It’s a complete unforced error of incompetence.

However, these facts will have zero impact on ignorant MAGAt cult voters. They see things solely through the prism that their overlords tell them.

Dream on, OP. We're never going back. I'm glad I'm old.

[quote]It’s almost impossible that there won’t be inflation because of tariffs. Which is what seems so crazy - that they know it will create inflation yet are counting on the MAGA nationalism theme to override people’s discontent at inflation

Truth, R12.

Off and on the last two days I've looked through my Purchases list on Ebay and my Track and Manage Your Orders on Amazon because I wanted to re-purchase quite a few items that I've had for a while, really like, and want to lay in a store before they go out of production.

The today's prices vs the original purchase prices made me gasp. The large bottles of fragrance dupes I used to buy on Ebay, and the 10ml glass roll-on bottles I bought from Amazon into which I decant the fragrances, both have gone up 50% in less than three years. Several dresses I'd bought on Amazon for my sister and my Dad's caregiver have almost trebeled in price. And pet beds I bought for $8 at Dollar General last year were $15 yesterday, so I bought only one instead of the two I'd wanted. A cheap, basic formerly $5 Frisbee for my dog is now $12.

This is all very stressful for those of us who are either retired or low-mid salaried. But they don't give one loose dog shit.

America is prepared to go down with the MAGA ship if it means fight against the woke. The entire country is completely brainwashed. They’ll blame China for this, not Trump.

They'll blame whoever Trump tells them to, which will be Biden and the Dems.

Anyone remember those stickers that had a picture of Biden pointing at something and saying "I did this" that people would stick on gas pumps at stations? Can we get that with a Trump picture to to stick on grocery prices, etc.?

I think it highly unlikely that we will ever see valid inflation data from Trump’s Bureau of Labor and statistics. The low-ball data will reduce COLAs for those on SS/SSI/SSDI; Federal employees’ wages and retirement benefits, and other federal financial assistance. Whereas independent inflation data will be available, those data will not affect government COLAs.

The US economy post COVID has become the envy of all the other countries , in big part thanks to Biden's economic policies. However, enough people were still complaining about inflation, even though it was very much under control by 2024. Thanks to the MAGA echo chamber, they had unrealistic expectations that prices of goods should return to pre-COVID era, which could only happen if the country was in a actual depression. Prices of goods never go back down.

I'm not sure. It's a cult. They don't care about anything else - just their God. There's no one coming to help. We are doomed. I just glad I'm closer to the end of my life than the beginning.

Gas prices could rise to $25.00 a gallon, and Trumpers would still never vote Democrat. Ever.

[quote] Prices of goods never go back down.

I beg to differ.

R31 Yes, I mentioned that it would mean an economic depression. The best one can expect is a marked slowdown of cost of living prices.

Biden’s policies really didn’t contribute much to inflation. Inflation was worldwide after Covid, so how were Biden’s policies contributing to it? Biden’s policies did contribute to the USA taming inflation better than any country and building one of the best, most solid economies in US history. We were in the verge of an economic renaissance with his economic policies, but that’s gone forever.

If it’s a cult, they are very hard to keep sustainable after the death of their leader.