Will Palestinian supporters rise up now…

No Jews, no news.

I wouldnt advise holding your breath OP

They may not rise up now, but they won't forget, like the Iranians.

Trumpian Policy seems to believe that you can pummel people into submission, kill their children, and that they will acquiesce in silence.

Trump is deluded if he thinks that foreign policy is Zero Sum for the losers.

Implying that anyone who cares about the Palestinians LOVES Hamas. You're an idiot, OP. That wasn't true two years ago and it's not true now.

I’m sure Queers for Palestine will get right on that.

I wouldn't hold my breath, OP.

No because they aren’t white

No.

No, they'll wait until there's another election so they can blame the Democrat for not fixing what has been broken for thousands of years. And then watch the Republican make it exponentially worse, with glee.

Love how the apologists for the judeo-nazi mass murder state, like that literal piece of dogshit with legs V8fairy, attempt to always focus on issues with the Palestinians — INFIGHTING! THROWING GAYS FROM ROOFTOPS! QUEERS FOR PALESTINE! — instead of, well, this:

Fuck that image is horrifying R10.

That’s just a small taste of the total annihilation the Israeli mass-murder states rained down upon hundreds of thousands of civilians.

This thread is like the Nazis sneering at the Jewish guerrillas in Warsaw for stealing food — while they go street to street murdering each and every Jewish and Polish partisan they find.

“But but but, the Jews are thieves!”

I see somebody is jerking it to Holocaust photos. Dead Jews make R10/R12 horny as hell!

Oh, every female hostage was killed, huh.

"Or will they rage when they realize that every female hostage was killed because according to Hamas their lives had no value as a bargaining chip?" - is that true? It takes literally 5 seconds to debunk.

All Zionists do is lie and gaslight, aggressively bloviate, then start all over again.

I'm so tired of Zionists and Zionism.

As is most of the world.

[quote]I see somebody is jerking it to Holocaust photos

What does this even mean?

On the other hand...

"The bodies of 45 deceased Palestinians transferred from Israel to the Nasser Medical Complex in Khan Younis have not been identified, the hospital’s forensic department told CNN on Tuesday.

The International Committee of the Red Cross transported the bodies on Monday as part of the exchange of detainees and hostages between Israel and Gaza.

It’s unclear where, when, or how the 45 Palestinians died. CNN asked the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) about the circumstances around the deaths.

The Palestinian Ministry of Health in Gaza said Israel has not provided a list of deceased Palestinians’ names. The ministry has previously suggested that either Israel knows the names but refuses to provide them or that Israel could have recovered the bodies while searching for Israeli hostages and did not determine their identities.

All of the bodies arrived at the facility with their hands and legs cuffed, the hospital said. The remains were being held in refrigerators in Israel and came with numbers marking them, rather than names, according to the hospital.

“Some are blindfolded, and there are signs of gunshot wounds in some cases, while others have been run over by tanks,” Nasser hospital said."

It didn’t take long for r10, r24 to get to the Jew hating part. You must be new to war, because that’s what it looks like.. And much much worse..

I hope Palestinians learned a lesson - Elections matter. Maybe next time don’t elect a Jew hating terrorist organization to represent you - especially if you live right next to Israel.

I don’t know how old r16 is, but I’m guessing not old enough to remember Vietnam or the horror stories. Because the shock and awe of that story fell flat.

Meanwhile Hamas has not returned any of the bodies of the female hostages they killed that were probably brutally raped several times and tortured before they were killed.

[Quote] It didn’t take long for [R10], [R24] to get to the Jew hating part.

How truly pathetic you fascists are — you know what you so ardently support is actually indefensible — horrible and murderous — so you just pretend that anyone who criticizes that is “antisemitic.”

It’s both incredibly lame and incredibly sad.

Look at r18, parroting what his hero Laura Loomer has to say about this. (Yes, THAT Laura Loomer.)

She’s a Zionist, so of course she’s a pathological liar.

Meanwhile, on planet reality:

Draft the little cunts. Let them feel the weight of their vote.

Sure as soon as we put all Zionists on trial for crimes against humanity. You’ve got a deal!

Didn’t take long to unhinge the freaks… And it’s exactly what I said in another thread. The Pro-Palestinians screaming “ceasefire” will NEVER be able to let the fight go when there is an actual ceasefire because their anger is their entire personality. So the next step is them screaming for every Zionist to go on trial. That’s what’s going to be spray painted in all the buildings now “JAIL BIBI”

At the heart of it I just think they love a cause more than they actually love any Palestinian.

^ it’s something they love to do - co-opting other people’s misery just so they themselves can feel alive. There is no honesty in that. It’s just another form of colonization.

They have other things on their minds. Like nuclear winter.

What was the name of that female Israeli hostage who was released during the genocide, the one who claimed Hamas "raped her with their eyes" and then, after her release, was raped by her Israeli gym trainer with his penis?

The Hamas lovers will continue their Jew hatred pretending that Jewish people weren't eradicated (kind of like a "genocide") in every country in a thousand mile radius around Israel and replaced with radical Islam, and any number of active terror groups, but still, the worst thing any person could ever be is a "Zionist".

Oh, ok.

The pro-Hamas contingent has a bone to pick with Nazi Germany. Their issue is that they took too long and that there were survivors.

They're killing off rival factions basically, so no huge loss to the world. The pro Palestinians will blame Israel regardless.

R26, you have google. Why do you find out for yourself and come back and tell us.

And the Hamas supporters claim Hamas is just killing traitors, not an unusual post war activity. They will not look at how rotten Hamas is.

When there are no Jews to murder, they murder each other. Savages.

Didn't the Jews just murder hundreds of thousands - estimates now approach 680.000 - women, men and children in a genocide where the Israelis, supplied by the US military, used the explosive power of 13 Hiroshima bombs and destroyed 90% of every structure in Gaza?

Skewering History: The Odious Politics of Counting Gaza’s Dead

The answer is yes, if you were wondering

R30 it was Mia Schem

Untouched by Hamas, raped by an Israeli

You're welcome

680,000?

Gurl, please.

R37 how many dead Palestinians do you think? How many are too much?

How many are you ok with?

If it is 680,000 dead, how would you respond?

Would you give a shit? Would you change your mind about Israel if 680,000 Palestinians are dead?

Honest answer.

What about 400,000.

300,000.

200,000.

Men, women, and mostly children civilians.

Don’t start a war you can’t win.

[quote]Would you give a shit? Would you change your mind about Israel if 680,000 Palestinians are dead?

What will make you change your mind about the terrorist group who started the war by raping, kidnapping and murdering young people at a peace concert, then went door to door and kidnapped fathers, mothers and children, or set parents on fire in front of their kids, sadistically murdered over a thousand civilians, then called their own moms and bragged about how many women they had raped, held hostages for over two years, and who laughed all the while they were torturing people? Then they embedded themselves among their civilian population to ensure collateral damage and that people like you would end up blaming the country they attacked. Everyone's blood is on Hamas' hands. And here you are, defending terrorism, and without any sympathy for the people who were brutally attacked.

* so that

In semi-tangentially related news, Indonesia just did something very stupid. They're the 2025 hosts for the World Gymnastics Championships and they revoked the Israeli athletes' visas just days before the competition. It has created a shit-storm of epic proportions, and Indonesia likely shot themselves in the foot -- nobody will ever trust them to host a big sporting event now.

[quote]They may not rise up now, but they won't forget, like the Iranians. Trumpian Policy seems to believe that you can pummel people into submission, kill their children, and that they will acquiesce in silence. Trump is deluded if he thinks that foreign policy is Zero Sum for the losers.

Are you hoping for revenge? Is this a warning or a threat? Sounds like you want Hamas to join Iran and be an ongoing terrorist threat to the world. And, again, where's the outrage toward Hamas for embedding themselves among civilians? For starting the war?

r38, isn't Trump attributed with killing 400,000 Americans with his fake Pandemic crap?

It would be so fun if they just gave Jared Kushner the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize. As the ultimate fuck-you to Trump.

R38, let’s presume your made-up figure of 680,000 is correct. Palestinians killed over 1,200 people on October 7, 2023. If Israel killed 1,200 per day, that would be 876,000 over the course of two years.

So, it looks like Israel was proportionately less bloodthirsty than your average Palestinian “civilian”.

Hope this helps!

It’s just like I said, the Pro-Palestinian supporters would not be able to let this go or course correct with their “but, but, buts….”

The total estimate of those killed according to the Gazan Health Ministry is 70,000. And as a poster said above, don’t start a war you can’t win. Palestinians elected a terrorist origination that didn’t want peace, OR a two state solution, but wanted a Holy war. Their goal as stated from the beginning was death to Israel and death to all Jews. They were hoping with their attack that other Muslim nations would join in. What they didn’t account for is that the only people they’d get support from were purpled haired picket warriors thousands of miles away with now means to fight.

Now they, for all intents and purposes, have broken the ceasefire agreement by not turning over all the hostage bodies (which they knew at the time they couldn’t find) and not laying down their arms which they are using to execute Palestinians fighting back.

So as a nation, what is Israel suppose to do when you have a neighbor who constantly says they want to murder all of your civilians and then actually attacks you and murders 1200 people (the equivalent of 44000 Americans population wise)?

What do you think Mexico would look like now if cartel members snuck across the border and murdered 44000 Americans in the most heinous ways possible?

Let’s call a spade a spade. We are not dealing with the best and the brightest when it comes to Palestine.

You have a people who elected a government that thought it could take on one of the strongest militaries in the world based on the word of some ancient text. Instead of spending billions in aid to help their people they prepared for battle, building tunnels, to fight a war they had absolutely no way of winning. They didn’t even shore up support from allies, just went in guns blazing.

And in my opinion, they played right into Israel’s hand. I think Bibi was fully aware something like Oct 7th was going to happen. The Egyptians even wanted Israel. Instead Israel gives Hamas enough rope to hang themselves by providing Palestinians with unprecedented access to Israel through work permits and relaxed boarders in the years leading up to Oct 7th. it was like catnip to Hamas and impossible not to take advantage of. Bibi wanted to be done with them once and for all.

And now here we are.

^the Egyptians even WARNED Israel.

And now here we are again with Hamas playing right into Bibi’s hands by agreeing to terms in a peace deal Netanyahu knew they couldn’t hold up. Now he has the moral high ground, which he had lost, to go back in and fight. I’m not saying he will continue bombing. But he can say he has every right to take over the area, dictate its future. One thing Israel will never do again is allow a terrorist organization to exist right on its border. If there are two states, the Palestinian side will be under the direction of Israel.

There will never be peace. Islam is rife with Jew hatred. Their fucking prophet massacred a Jewish tribe, raping the women then killing the men. The women and children were taken into slavery. Does this all sound familiar?

How did the Palestinians manage to breed like rabbits if they've been suffering from a genocide, and why do all of the refugees from there have like 30-50 family members?

Also, why is having a family member who's been "martyred" bragging rights for them? I've seen Palestinian parents pleased as punch when one of their 14 children ends up dying via a suicide bomb or some other terrorist activity.

Cynthia Nixon must be FURIOUS!

[quote]There will never be peace. Islam is rife with Jew hatred. Their fucking prophet massacred a Jewish tribe, raping the women then killing the men. The women and children were taken into slavery. Does this all sound familiar?

R51 true. History doesnt necessarily repeat but it rhymes

But to be fair, not ALL Muslims. The majority of them, but some, in the US and elsewhere rise above it

r55, Islam used to be peaceful for centuries and coexistent until the Christian invasions.

Just like Nixon fucking up Iran, Evangelical Christians, The Catholic Knights, have fucked up our relationship with Islam. Add the Petroleum companies causing invasions for capitalistic reasons and no wonder we are the Blue Eyed Satan.

R56, how do you think Islam spread across North Africa and the Middle East?

And what do you think happened to the people who resisted?

Are the Christians currently being murdered in masses in Nigeria somehow mixed up in whatever apologetic babble you’ve spilled out?

Complete lie R56. Islam has been extremely violent since their crazed prophet.

R46 your premise is entirely illogical.

Repeating an action over the course of two years daily is an extremely more violent action than one single day of violence. The suffering that the Palestinian people endured for two full years is far more damaging than one single day. Israel killed approx 60 times (number guaranteed to rise) more Palestinians than Hamas killed Israelis. To try and make that a favourable comparison for Israel is just mind blowing levels of stupidity sorry.

FAFO, R59.

R60 saliva rolling down your chin typing that out.

Nah, just a hearty laugh at you. Isn’t it time to pick up more Manic Panic purple dye and go scream at Kamala Harris?

R62 honestly and I mean this with good intentions, you should spend less time online. You’re just repeating low end twitter slop.

R59, then don’t go around for decades chanting death to your much more powerful neighbors. That’s just plain stupid. Don’t celebrate martyrdom for killing Jews. Again, if any country or group of people killed 44000Americans (the equivalent of 1200 Jews to the population of Israel) what do you think would happen to them? Who you vote for to lead your nation is important. Palestinians had a choice. They made the wrong one.

R64 Israel stole their lands and broke many international conventions. Israel illegally took lands which grants the Palestinians a legal right to recourse. If Mexico was expanding into the southern US, kicking Americans out of their homes and taking their lands, and then sending in militias and police onto American soil and imprisoning hundreds of thousands of Americans illegally in Mexican prisons what would your response be?

[Quote] Didn’t take long to unhinge the freaks…

Don’t know who needs to hear this, but if you’re a fierce advocate for stealing other peoples’ land, and committing mass murder against them if they refuse to leave, you’re the freak.

[Quote] Again, if any country or group of people killed 44000Americans (the equivalent of 1200 Jews to the population of Israel) what do you think would happen to them?

Over 134,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israel since 1948, and that’s using the most conservative estimate of the death toll in Gaza.

If any country or group of people killed 8,500,000 Americans (the equivalent of 134,000 Palestinians to the Palestinian population) what do you think would happen to them?

I, for one, will continue to be completely, blissfully indifferent to the plight of both groups.

[quote]R59 Repeating an action over the course of two years daily is an extremely more violent action than one single day of violence. The suffering that the Palestinian people endured for two full years is far more damaging than one single day.

It was "one single day" because Israel fought back. Do you think Hamas was going to stop after just one day? They declared war, and they continued firing missiles at Israel, and they took hundreds of hostages. Israel had every right to fight back after what was done to innocent people, and try to get the hostages back and to defeat Hamas. And the "two full years" the Palestinians "endured" was due to Hamas 1) starting the war 2) embedding themselves within the civilian population 3) keeping the hostages and 4) not surrendering. It's all on them. They could have ended the war at any time, but they chose allow the suffering on both sides to continue. And now they're torturing and killing Palestinians. But you don't seem to care at all about those Palestinians.

R69 so yes you agree Israel’s actions over the last two years have been cumulatively more violent than those of Hamas’.

[quote] was due to Hamas 1) starting the war

This ‘war’ did not start two years ago are you that stupid?

[quote] 2) embedding themselves within the civilian population

Israel flattened the entire city of Gaza, every building. They just said this “embedding themselves in the population” and you dickheads recite it bc you have no critical thinking skills

[quote] 3) keeping the hostages

Israel has always had more Palestinian hostages than Hamas ever had of Israelis.

[quote] 4) not surrendering

Hamas agreed several times to peace talks and ceasefires, they offered to return all the hostages in the immediate weeks following Oct2023 and Israel said no.

Dont do that completely dishonest thing of not accepting Israel’s responsibility for the actions they directly take. It’s intellectually weak and embarrassing, and everybody sees right through it.

At least now, the whole world hates Israel and understands that in their current form they are a disgusting genocidal ethnostste.

Can't believe there's actually a Hamas supporter here. Wow. I'll just ignore your posts from now on because terrorist fanboys/fangirls aren't my thing.

R71 I have never supported Hamas, can you point to what I said that indicates that I do? You guys are like ancient 12 year olds.

And let’s remind ourselves what you are supporting.

Re the story above;

[quote]Out of its 500 members, 28% took part in the vote and 86% of those who voted supported the resolution.

And what's worse, becoming a member is .... all too easy as this screenshot demonstrates. There were a number of others like this

IAGS is not reliable

Hamas did offer to return all the hostages in the immediate weeks following Oct2023 and Israel said no - primarily because they wanted to exchange them for several thousand Hamas soldiers/ terrorists that Israel had captured

Israel should have taken up this deal, but put tracking chips in them all to deal with as soon as they had the hostages back

I'm assuming this thread has finally solved the riddle that is the Middle East turmoil?

And that it was done with respect and a thorough, exhaustive look at all sides?

R73 All that it takes to become an official "genocide scholar" in this organization is a $30-$90 annual membership fee. That's it. No other qualifications. You or I could join the ranks of the "world's leading genocide scholars" tomorrow if we chose to be.

R77 thanks for that additional detail, forgot about that

BRB gonna grab my credit card and become a "world leading genocide scholar". Shit I've had takeout meals that cost less

Incredibly they still havent closed that loophole I mentioned at R74

R66 Mexico isn’t going around screaming death to America, at least not publicly. And America DID steal their land. What do you think Texas is? It’s just REALLY stupid to go to war with an adversary 10x stronger than you. Hamas wanted Palestine to be flattened. The leaders even said the price of all of those deaths was worth it just to get the world against Israel. So all of those deaths, the “genocide” was worth it to them.

And Hamas is who Palestinians overwhelmingly elected as their governing body. And you are defending Hamas by not once speaking out against them and only blaming Israel for the situation. According to you, what role did Hamas play in all of this?

The U.S. (stupidly) installed its current leadership.

We’re on the verge of invading Venezuela, after unilaterally killing boaters Hegsbeth claims, without evidence, are drug dealers.

IF Venezuela and allies were to start sinking cruise ships filled with Americans, could they rightly say it was the fault of Americans for electing Trump?

R79 so land stealing is ok by you? Should there be no repercussions?

[quote] It’s just REALLY stupid to go to war with an adversary 10x stronger than you.

Baffles me that you guys have no regard for any question of right or wrong, no ethics, no principles. Israel steals land illegally, kills Palestinians at a regular frequency, had ten thousand Palestinians illegally held in Israeli prisons before Oct7th, that Palestinians ability to travel or trade internationally was being controlled by Israel, that Palestinians living in Israel were subject to apartheid, as far as separate roads to use etc. and you think they were somehow outrageous to even think of fighting back. Were the Jewish people in the Warsaw ghetto “REALLY stupid” to fight back and stage an uprising against the Nazis?

Hamas were elected decades ago. Idk what your point is? The Israelis have elected Milosevic or whatever he calls himself repeatedly, so this makes them worse by your logic.

I’ve spoken about Hamas and October 7th before you can check my posting history, I don’t know why its beholden upon everyone that criticizes Israel to make a statement condemning Oct 7th before they are allowed to to so. You haven’t criticized the IDF or Israeli prison services yet?

And one more for those ehh….engaging in genocide denialism?

Hamas was elected in 2005 at a point where Israel had completely pulled out of Gaza. That was their opportunity of peace and self governance R81. BUT what you fail to realize is that Palestinians don’t want to live next to Israel. They don’t want Israel to exist at all. You act as if they are just trying to live in peace. They are not. They want Israel gone. And if the power dynamic was reversed, every Jewish Israeli would be dead.

This goes back over 100 years. And even back in 1936 the goal at the time for Arabs (Palestinians) uprising was to kill every British Person and Jew. Peace is not their goal.

Do your research. The entire Jewish / Palestinian conflict started when Arabs attacked a Jewish settlement in 1920, later burning it to the ground. All the land Israel had taken was to create buffers from their insane neighbors who wanted to exterminate them.

[quote] BUT what you fail to realize is that Palestinians don’t want to live next to Israel.

Tbh I don’t think anyone wants to live next to Israel, it has attacked 5 of its neighbours in the last year alone, and it’s been conducting a genocide on its weakest neighbour for two years. And it’s backed by a superpower that gives it permission to break as many international laws as it wants with no consequence.

[quote] All the land Israel had taken was to create buffers

lol listen to yourself.

Listen to yourself r84. Why do you think NOT ONE of Palestinian neighbors wanted to take them in? Most of the Arab world doesn’t want anything to do with them. Trump couldn’t build a wall but Egypt sure did. Why do you think most the Palestinian neighbors didn’t come to their aid but are signing accords with Israel? Everyone in That region wants to move on and do business with the west. On the low, knowing how they think, they were not too displeased with what was going on.

ALL of the neighboring regions benefit from a weakened Iran and Israel taking out the garbage when it comes to terrorist organizations. They couldn’t do it themselves but they definitely didn’t balk when Israel did.

[quote] This goes back over 100 years. And even back in 1936 the goal at the time for Arabs (Palestinians) uprising was to kill every British Person and Jew. Peace is not their goal.

[quote] Do your research. The entire Jewish / Palestinian conflict started when Arabs attacked a Jewish settlement in 1920, later burning it to the ground. All the land Israel had taken was to create buffers from their insane neighbors who wanted to exterminate them.

R83 it goes back further than that even

The first recorded pogrom against Jews in what is now Israel was in 1517

[quote]They have other things on their minds. Like nuclear winter.

The Middle East is going to be the death of us all.

[quote]Why do you think NOT ONE of Palestinian neighbors wanted to take them in? Most of the Arab world doesn’t want anything to do with them.

Look what they did to Lebanon. Lebanon used to be a relatively civilized country, as far as Arab nations go.

This is a lot of respectability politics / acceptance of propaganda and apartheid for you all to avoid the question of the genocide. And dance around illegal land stealing. Not a single one of you will acknowledge this. Sure a weakened Iran is a good thing, but that shouldn’t be a tool to gloss over the murder of 25000+ children. This is the central and most acute point.

Are any of you willing to acknowledge this?

And would you look at that, Israel bombed Lebanon today. They just can’t help themselves from bombing their neighbours.

Hamas was elected 20 years ago and everyone who voted for them died a day later! Gaza is inhabited only by precious little babies! All of the Jews who died on 10/7 were bloodthirsty IOF (yeah, nice propaganda there) soldiers doing a war dance and they were all killed by Jews anyway, not by the precious Palestinian babies! Jews never lived there until 1937 and they’re all European! Genocide! Genocide! Genocide!1!!1!

[quote] Hamas was elected 20 years ago and everyone who voted for them died a day later

You think you come across as smart on this, but simple maths will tell you that the voting population has changed ≈35% since then. Also policy of 20years in the future is not reasonable to be determined or predicted. Makes you seem stupid, and very out loud. But you do you. And also, another one that won’t answer any of my questions lmao.

"Israeli tanks ran over bodies of Palestinian hostages. Forensic teams in Gaza documented clear tank track imprints on returned Palestinian martyrs, alongside corpses missing heads, limbs, eyes, and internal organs, and others showing signs of being crushed under heavy military vehicles. Since the ceasefire took effect, 120 bodies have been sent by the Israeli occupation authorities to Gaza in deplorable condition, many blindfolded, bound, hanged, shot at close range, or bearing signs of prolonged torture to death.

Authorities and medical teams raise strong suspicions of systematic organ theft, including corneas and livers, from bodies handed over by the Israeli occupation. These findings point to deliberate war crimes and field executions, and demand immediate international investigation and prosecution at the ICC, the ICJ, and other courts worldwide to hold the occupation, its leaders, and other countries that supported them accountable."

R94 What is your source for that quote? The use of the word "martyrs" gives me pause.

Just Googled R94's quote. Source: Al Jazeera News

Lmao

R90 you sound like an anti-abortion activist. The exact same mentality - with huge poster boards of vacuumed out baby parts to let you know abortion is murder.

It’s crazy the lack of self awareness these people like r90 have. They are rending their clothes over Palestine but couldn’t explain to you the actual Islamic genocide of Christians in Nigeria. They are misery colonizers. Their personal lives have no meaning so they must take on the pain and suffering of others as their own. But they are very selective. Africans don’t register and are not as trendy as Palestinians. They only adopt causes that reflect their personal narrative. Like typical RACIST colonizers.

Yes R90, you are a racist.