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"I Love Hitler": Young Republicans Caught Using Antisemitic and Racist Hate Speech in a Leaked Chat

They also seem to wish for "political violence"....I guess they're done pretending to be against that

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by Anonymousreply 265October 17, 2025 2:12 AM

Return their hate to them in spades and in triplicate.

The disrespectful little bitches need to be taught a lesson they'll never soon forget.

by Anonymousreply 1October 14, 2025 5:54 PM

I am truly shocked.

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by Anonymousreply 2October 14, 2025 5:55 PM

Was Charlie Kirk in there?

by Anonymousreply 3October 14, 2025 5:55 PM

The only thing surprising to me is that this was published by Politico... I thought they had become pretty right-leaning.

by Anonymousreply 4October 14, 2025 6:02 PM

I’m so surprised!

by Anonymousreply 5October 14, 2025 6:02 PM

The GOP is now an openly White Supremacist and Christian Nationalist party funded and supported by the rich for purely financial advantages.

While I say “openly” I mean they make no attempt to hide, but most of them will still deny it publicly if confronted because it might cost them some marginal votes from stupid people. Lying is second nature to them.

by Anonymousreply 6October 14, 2025 6:06 PM

Well get my smelling salts

by Anonymousreply 7October 14, 2025 6:11 PM

In case you're wondering what was said without clicking the link:

[quote]They referred to Black people as monkeys and “the watermelon people” and mused about putting their political opponents in gas chambers. They talked about raping their enemies and driving them to suicide and lauded Republicans who they believed support slavery... William Hendrix, the Kansas Young Republicans’ vice chair, used the words “n--ga” and “n--guh,” variations of a racial slur, more than a dozen times in the chat. Bobby Walker, the vice chair of the New York State Young Republicans at the time, referred to rape as “epic.” Peter Giunta, who at the time was chair of the same organization, wrote in a message sent in June that “everyone that votes no is going to the gas chamber.”

by Anonymousreply 8October 14, 2025 6:12 PM

R1, how?

by Anonymousreply 9October 14, 2025 6:13 PM

Reddit posted the photos of some of these losers. Mostly fat, pasty 4Chan/JD Vance-looking types, of course.

by Anonymousreply 10October 14, 2025 6:15 PM

I seriously never felt that young Republicans were so full of hate during my college years in the mid 80s. Or were they and I was just too naive to pick on it?

by Anonymousreply 11October 14, 2025 6:17 PM

Different party then. In the 80s, the GOP was about fiscal responsibility and reducing spending and taxes.

The GOP used to suppress the racists and misogynist in their midst, but Trump empowered them and welcomed them.

by Anonymousreply 12October 14, 2025 6:21 PM

Reagan launched his 1980 campaign from the site of Southern a civil rights massacre. His slogan?

"Make America Great Again."

Also look up "Lee Atwater." Read what he said about the phrase "states rights" and how it was always a racist dog whistle. The Republican party was absolutely NOT a different party then and many of those same people are still with us today. Fuck off with the white washing.

by Anonymousreply 13October 14, 2025 6:29 PM

What all these Nazi Hitler lovers forget is that Hitler committed suicide because HE LOST. He killed millions, and I include all the young men and women who died fighting the war on both sides.

by Anonymousreply 14October 14, 2025 6:32 PM

[quote]In the 80s, the GOP pretended to be about fiscal responsibility and reducing spending and taxes

FIFY.

by Anonymousreply 15October 14, 2025 6:32 PM

Yes, the roots of the Republican party’s decline were planted long ago —by Nixon’s “southern strategy.” They decided to go for the southern whites who felt betrayed by the Democrats’ embrace of Civil Rights. Then they added an appeal to Evangelical Christians. (Obviously a lot of overlap between white supremacists and tge evangelicals since Souther Baptism was founded to defend slavery) At first they used relatively subtle gestures and dog whistles to rile up the base, but the base inevitably seized control and now, with MAGA, they gave purged the old guard entirely.

by Anonymousreply 16October 14, 2025 6:40 PM

Hitler ultimately lost, but there would probably be 2-3 times as many Jews in the world today without Hitler. They consider that a victory.

by Anonymousreply 17October 14, 2025 6:43 PM

Why they all so so fat?

by Anonymousreply 18October 14, 2025 6:46 PM

Behold: the master race!!!

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by Anonymousreply 19October 14, 2025 6:46 PM

Fixed

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by Anonymousreply 20October 14, 2025 6:51 PM

Fat incel fat incel fat incel fat incel fat incel....

Just doing a census of the population.

Fat incel fat incel...

by Anonymousreply 21October 14, 2025 6:58 PM

The people in that chat are all the children and grandchildren of Nixon/Reagan/Bush I&II voters so I don't know how anyone can say it was a different party. What we're living under now didn't just happen. It didn't come out of nowhere. It's been in the works for decades. Authoritarianism, silencing dissent, controlling the media and destroying the left was always the goal. Joe and Joanie Sixpack might not have caught on, or maybe they liked just enough of it to go along, but they voted for this shit for decades. The party just dressed it up in "fiscal responsibility" and "states rights" to make it more palatable but it was always about Christian nationalism and severe economic inequality. Always.

by Anonymousreply 22October 14, 2025 7:04 PM

We have changed from a government that serves the populace to a populace that serves the government..

They burn out. We will prevail.

by Anonymousreply 23October 14, 2025 7:10 PM

[quote] Was Charlie Kirk in there?

Yes. Through a ouija board.

by Anonymousreply 24October 14, 2025 7:13 PM

I see the word incel thrown around a lot. For the longest time I had no idea what it meant. I finally looked it up and I got this picture in my mind of some greasy looking shlub sitting in his mother’s basement playing video games and eating junk food.

Every single one of those guys look just like the incels I pictured.

I’m guessing there’s a correlation.

by Anonymousreply 25October 14, 2025 7:27 PM

Of course it’s literally the same party.

I don’t think if Reagan and Bush knew where their strategy would lead the future, they would have been happy about it. I think it’s largely unintended consequences. Not entirely unforeseeable, but probably not anticipated or desired.

They were the traditional Republicans—pro-business , anti-tax and anti-regulation, but not obsessed with cultural grievances. They thought they could ride the base for political support if they tossed them a few bones like opposing Roe v Wade and affirmative action. They did not expect to lose control to the base or that party itself would rile up the base’s resentments to be the central element of the party. The leadership thought it would be the restraint.

The rise of MAGA is also due to some progressive over-reach on social issues. They could not have foreseen that.

by Anonymousreply 26October 14, 2025 7:38 PM

Today (Oct. 14) is Charlie Kirk's birthday, and they're having a lantern vigil at 6pm in the tiny town in PA where my sister lives. In fact, they're having them lots of places. Look on Facebook.

We should go and disrupt. Take your gas mask!

by Anonymousreply 27October 14, 2025 7:49 PM

[quote]I seriously never felt that young Republicans were so full of hate during my college years in the mid 80s.

The genteel country club Republicans that we grew up with are no longer actively involved in the party. They were run out by MAGA. It's only the Trump loyalists and bigots left. The Bush side of the party still votes for Republicans for economic reasons, but they don't run the party anymore.

by Anonymousreply 28October 14, 2025 7:57 PM

This is why I ran away from the MidWest. These are racist bastards whose every accusation is a cover for their confession.

Yeah, I cheated and copied it from someone online who is smarter than myself, but it’s still true. Please note that I couldn’t decide between Who’s and Whose so I added a bunch of extra verbiage.

by Anonymousreply 29October 14, 2025 8:27 PM

No one was "run out of the party." The country club set still voted overwhelmingly for Trump through three electoral cycles.

Some of you seriously need to wrap your heads around the fact that the average Trump voter isn't some lunatic wearing an offensive t-shirt at a Trump rally. They're your neighbors, co-workers and family. They're the people in the car next to you at the red light. They're the jogger you pass every morning and the nice lady pushing the stroller in the park. They're everywhere, even in blue states, blue cities and blue families.

And they're definitely in the country clubs. What do you think Mar-a-Lago even is?? The "genteel Republican" still exists, and they love Trump even if they never reveal that to you. "Genteel Republicans" want low taxes above all else, which means no social programs whatsoever. They want illegals deported, gays and feminists silenced, and no black or brown people anywhere near them unless they work for or are waiting on them. They are classic Trumpers and always were, they're just more stealth, more careful, and yes, more "genteel" about it than Dee Plorable.

I'm so tired of the whitewashing and wishful thinking. Republicans still have an approval rating of over 80% for Trump in multiple polls. They voted for this. 3 times. And they'll vote for it again and again because this is exactly what they wanted all along.

by Anonymousreply 30October 14, 2025 8:30 PM

[quote]The rise of MAGA is also due to some progressive over-reach on social issues. They could not have foreseen that.

R26 you reminded me of when even on here we were calling out SJWs. I haven’t heard that term thrown about a lot. There was a time when we were being heavily policed by the left.

by Anonymousreply 31October 14, 2025 8:32 PM

In my day young republicans were all hot blond jocks with money.

by Anonymousreply 32October 14, 2025 8:38 PM

Yes, of course most country club Republicans still vote Republican, but they no longer control or even moderate the party. They’re just along for the ride.

And yes, there are many people who support the Republican Party for reasons other than being completely MAGA. Perhaps up to half of them. But most of them are paying little attention to politics and vote out of habit, on the basis of a single issue, or because they are turned off by the left’s politics. In any case they all preferred the lunatic to the Brown Lady.

The point is that who is in charge of the party has shifted. And those in charge are no longer ashamed of the Nazis. They celebrate them.

by Anonymousreply 33October 14, 2025 8:39 PM

[quote]the average Trump voter isn't some lunatic wearing an offensive t-shirt at a Trump rally. They're your neighbors, co-workers and family. They're the people in the car next to you at the red light.

That's my whole county, R33 -- and hell, most of my state as well.

These truths are self-evident. Tell me something I don't know.

by Anonymousreply 34October 14, 2025 8:41 PM

"In my day young republicans were all hot blond jocks with money."

In my day they were ugly, nerdy boys who railed against the sexual revolution because they were jealous of people who actually got laid. And some were self-hating, repressed gays

by Anonymousreply 35October 14, 2025 8:44 PM

They look exactly how I expected them to. Let the karma begin.

by Anonymousreply 36October 14, 2025 8:45 PM

[quote]There was a time when we were being heavily policed by the left.

Ooooh, "policed by the left." Sounds vewwy scawwy.

How long were you sentenced for?

by Anonymousreply 37October 14, 2025 8:47 PM

Here's MAGA rep Mike Lawler with one of these assholes

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by Anonymousreply 38October 14, 2025 8:48 PM

There are people in this country that love to terrorize Americans with "Threats from the Left." They are terrified. They think Capitalism is in danger and that "The Left" will bring Socialism and suffocating regulatory policies to Capitalism. They lie.

by Anonymousreply 39October 14, 2025 8:50 PM

Don’t be disingenuous. The left was very arrogant when it came to punishing people for transgressing progressive dogma. Like the researcher who got run out of Harvard for writing that there are two sexes. In fact, I would argue that going after people who don’t buy the progressive party line was an animating impulse for many activists who believed that they goal should be turning the tables on who was “privileged “ and who was “oppressed,” not in eliminating oppression.

by Anonymousreply 40October 14, 2025 8:53 PM

R39 those people have been brainwashed by right-wing media to consistently vote against their own interests. They believe every lie they're told about socialism, antifa, etc. They're also in this thread and all over DL 24/7. Complete morons, every one. They'll side with billionaires even while facing homelessness and financial ruin. They'll argue against government programs that would greatly benefit them because some talking head on a TV network owned by an evil billionaire told them to. Just Neanderthal-level intelligence. And now they run the country.

by Anonymousreply 41October 14, 2025 8:55 PM

They were always this racist. Their dog whistles had a certain panache though

by Anonymousreply 42October 14, 2025 8:57 PM

Typical...a racist fattie

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by Anonymousreply 43October 14, 2025 8:57 PM

...and another one.

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by Anonymousreply 44October 14, 2025 8:58 PM

Maybe I’m naive, but I can’t imagine the Bushes, McCain or Romney were this racist, misogynistic and nihilistic even in private.

by Anonymousreply 45October 14, 2025 9:00 PM

The one at r44 joked about someone getting chicken, watermelon and kool-aid. Which from the looks of him is his daily midnight snack.

by Anonymousreply 46October 14, 2025 9:00 PM

Maybe just to get attention-Maybe not. Awful just awful.

by Anonymousreply 47October 14, 2025 9:01 PM

"Like the researcher who got run out of Harvard for writing that there are two sexes."

As opposed to running people out of their jobs for not praising Charlie Kirk enough?

by Anonymousreply 48October 14, 2025 9:03 PM

“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.” ― Lyndon B. Johnson

by Anonymousreply 49October 14, 2025 9:03 PM

OMG R44 if that doesn't look like an FTM trans running for Comptroller, I don't know does.

by Anonymousreply 50October 14, 2025 9:10 PM

[quote] As opposed to running people out of their jobs for not praising Charlie Kirk enough?

No. Just like that.

by Anonymousreply 51October 14, 2025 9:12 PM

They used anti-gay hate speech, too (of course):

Hendrix was a communications assistant for Kansas’ Republican Attorney General Kris Kobach until Thursday. He also said in the chat that, despite political differences, he’s drawn to Missouri’s Young Republican organization because “Missouri doesn’t like f--s.”

by Anonymousreply 52October 14, 2025 9:12 PM

This might be very good for the implosion of far right nazi leaning youth contingent. Not for what they said. But for the utter shock of realizing you're aligning yourself with people who look like that.

by Anonymousreply 53October 14, 2025 9:13 PM

R22, you're right. The hatred and bigotry does not come out of nowhere. It is often learned at home. You could just imagine what their parents said. The current imbecile has just made it easier for it to be expressed out loud. Reagan used dog whistles like the "Welfare Queen." Barbara Bush talked about "the little brown ones" -- her own grandchildren. Lee Atwater who got her husband elected was a racist bastard.

by Anonymousreply 54October 14, 2025 9:14 PM

"Assemblymember Mike Reilly has fired his chief of staff [Giunta] due to alleged comments made in a text thread among a group of young Republican leaders from across the country."

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by Anonymousreply 55October 14, 2025 9:15 PM

Great post r30 and very true

by Anonymousreply 56October 14, 2025 9:16 PM

Eet vas joost locker room talk.

by Anonymousreply 57October 14, 2025 9:18 PM

R40 you reminded me of something I heard someone say about why the dems were losing and the republicans gained ground. As a party, two democrats could agree on 9 things but a disagreement on the 10th thing would be a deal breaker. All of a sudden there were a million factions in the party each fighting over who was more apt to represent the party. On the other hand republicans took in people if they just agreed with one thing. They became the open arms party of every grievance. So as long as you agreed on just one of the things they stood for, you were welcome to call yourself a republican.

by Anonymousreply 58October 14, 2025 9:18 PM

[quote] R22], you're right. The hatred and bigotry does not come out of nowhere. It is often learned at home. You could just imagine what their parents said.

That may have true once, but not today. People get radicalized in online communities. They don’t need a parent’s example.

by Anonymousreply 59October 14, 2025 9:20 PM

[quote] Staten Island Republican fires chief of staff over alleged ‘troubling’ comments

I’m sure the comments came as a complete shock 🙄

by Anonymousreply 60October 14, 2025 9:22 PM

"Don’t be disingenuous. The left was very arrogant when it came to punishing people for transgressing progressive dogma."

So which leftist President was it that was planning on waging war on US citizens by sending National Guardsmen into US cities to root out all the "vermin, parasites and untermenschen" that live in them?

Was it JFK? Carter? Clinton? Obama?

No, R40, the US president trying to wage war on his political and ideological opponents is right wing crackpot/convicted felon/child rapist/violent sexual predator Donald Trump.

Could it R40 is just pulling shit out of its prolapsed manhole? Now, that's the height of arrogance.

by Anonymousreply 61October 14, 2025 9:32 PM

And we all know the examples of policing that happens on the left because it happens here on DL all of the time. If you were a democrat who didn't immediately call what was happening in Gaza a genocide or stand up for Palestinians you were shouted down and called a MAGAT. If you didn't agree with the idea of kids being allowed to transition, you were automatically labeled a MAGAT by someone. If you don't agree with 100% of what I believe, even if we agree on 90%, you were on the other side. And after a while, what a lot of people started doing was stepping back and saying, "maybe I am a republican," because I don't agree with that one thing.

and R61, What is happening now is after the vote has been cast, after Republicans won a shitload of people over to their side. They are doing what they wanted to do all along. BUT when they needed the votes to get there, they cast a very wide net to do it, speaking to people in the middle who felt that if they didn't tow the dem party line 100% they were not welcome. Dems made people feel that way. Of course the Republicans never had any intention of upholding anything those people wanted. Ergo, the price of eggs and the shit show we are in now. R40 is right.

by Anonymousreply 62October 14, 2025 9:38 PM

Calm down. I said the progressives went too far in trying to enforce adherence to their point of view, not that Democrats are equivalent to MAGA.

by Anonymousreply 63October 14, 2025 9:39 PM

Everything before Trump to the loudest factions of dems was "literal violence." Now that we have Trump, we have literal violence.

by Anonymousreply 64October 14, 2025 9:41 PM

If you are referring to my post R63, I was saying that on here progressives were very quick to label anyone who didn't agree with a singular point of theres as Maga. Any October 7th thread on DL over the last couple of years will show this to be true. As you say, they went too far. In their need to be right, everyone else had to be wrong.

by Anonymousreply 65October 14, 2025 9:43 PM

I’m referring to r61.

by Anonymousreply 66October 14, 2025 9:46 PM

We know from Muriel that foreign disrupters come to DL to test out their talking points. Those “progressives” on here were likely division agents looking to stir the pot. It’s doubtful 90% of them are Democrats or progressives.

by Anonymousreply 67October 14, 2025 9:51 PM

Former Republican George Conway’s reaction:

“It's really not about politics anymore. The apparatus of the Republican Party has simply become a haven for bad people.”

by Anonymousreply 68October 14, 2025 9:54 PM

[quote] William Hendrix, the Kansas Young Republicans’ vice chair, used the words “n--ga” and “n--guh,” variations of a racial slur, more than a dozen times in the chat.

And yes, he looks exactly as you would imagine.

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by Anonymousreply 69October 14, 2025 10:19 PM

[quote] Bobby Walker, the vice chair of the New York State Young Republicans at the time, referred to rape as “epic.”

And again, this one looks exactly as you would imagine.

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by Anonymousreply 70October 14, 2025 10:21 PM

[quote] Peter Giunta, who at the time was chair of the same organization, wrote in a message sent in June that “everyone that votes no is going to the gas chamber.”

And finally, this one also looks exactly as you would imagine.

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by Anonymousreply 71October 14, 2025 10:22 PM

These guys are the #1 cause of vaginal dryness

by Anonymousreply 72October 14, 2025 10:25 PM

R68 “It's really not about politics anymore. The apparatus of the Republican Party has simply become a haven for bad people.”

I've been basically saying that since at least 2015. George Conway is late to the realization party.

by Anonymousreply 73October 14, 2025 10:26 PM

"The Left" has never had any real power in this country. No Democratic President of the last 50 years could be considered a leftist; even Carter was fairly centrist. The closest we got was FDR and that was over 90 years ago. Clinton and Obama were both well to the right of Richard Nixon. Biden was a centrist President, but his record in the senate, Anita Hill and the Super-Predators b.s. -- that tells a different story.

Whining about "The Left" because someone was snippy with you online or you saw something on Twitter one time or a college professor was disciplined over something a lot more complex than one opinion, and twisting that around to blame the 11% of this country that identify as leftist for the 48% who are full blown fascists, well, that must take a lot of mental gymnastics. I can't imagine.

by Anonymousreply 74October 14, 2025 10:30 PM

[quote]There was a time when we were being heavily policed by the left.

Funny how when the left does it it's metaphorical.

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by Anonymousreply 75October 14, 2025 10:37 PM

Here's Pete Guinta - recently fired for these comments.

Girls - control yourself - he's ALL MAN!

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by Anonymousreply 76October 14, 2025 10:47 PM

I have a friend, whom I dearly love, who has voted for Trump… Three times… Three… Times… He is an elder gay who likes Mike Pence… His justification is two fold, abortion (which he’s had zero chance to even remotely need) and a lesser of two evils take on our candidates (a Republican is always the better option, they are less evil than a Democrat). He parrots the same tired talking points and Herbert Hoover being good, Roosevelt being bad, Kennedy and Johnson being horrible, Nixon being a martyr for nothing and Reagan being the final Christlike figure to save America…

by Anonymousreply 77October 14, 2025 10:50 PM

FDR, TRUMAN, JFK, LBJ, BIDEN were all pretty damn progressive. All did some very progressive things. The Republicans shifted hard right after Nixon. With the media parroting Republican BS narratives since Reagan it forced Democrats to shift more center, but still center/left. Clinton raised taxes on the rich and passed an assault weapons ban. Obama had to deal with the Great Recession that W started, and Biden had to deal with the cluster left after Trump.

by Anonymousreply 78October 14, 2025 10:51 PM

You need better friends, R77.

by Anonymousreply 79October 14, 2025 10:52 PM

I always remind people that it was Nixon who created the EPA.

by Anonymousreply 80October 14, 2025 10:52 PM

I like how Pete Giunta disparages people who are "ten shades darker than someone from Sicily"—gotta keep his own lineage in the white column.

by Anonymousreply 81October 14, 2025 10:53 PM

R77 JFC time to dump that rotten fucker as a friend. He’s a horrible person.

by Anonymousreply 82October 14, 2025 10:54 PM

[quote]He parrots the same tired talking points and Herbert Hoover being good, Roosevelt being bad

Now THAT'S an eldergay.

by Anonymousreply 83October 14, 2025 10:54 PM

This is hardly a surprise about the Republican youth. The US has had a long history of association and approval of Nazism.

Imagine what they say about gay people.

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by Anonymousreply 84October 14, 2025 10:56 PM

My Charlie would be so proud!

by Anonymousreply 85October 14, 2025 10:57 PM

They’re just saying the quiet part out loud out. Except it’s acceptable to say it out loud now. And no Republican will condemn them. More importantly, whoever gathered up all these messages from Telegram needs to gather up the ones where Republicans - young and old - are trading kiddie porn like baseball cards. You know there are a few.

by Anonymousreply 86October 14, 2025 10:58 PM

That's their only post, r82.

by Anonymousreply 87October 14, 2025 10:59 PM

George Carlin: "Germany lost the second World War, fascism won it."

by Anonymousreply 88October 14, 2025 11:02 PM

[quote]I like how Pete Giunta disparages people who are "ten shades darker than someone from Sicily"—gotta keep his own lineage in the white column.

Oh Christ not this again.....

by Anonymousreply 89October 14, 2025 11:02 PM

Makes sense....

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by Anonymousreply 90October 14, 2025 11:07 PM

Do they all live in a van down by the river?

by Anonymousreply 91October 14, 2025 11:09 PM

[quote] Ed Cox, the chair of the New York State GOP, also condemned the remarks made in the chat.

[quote] “I was shocked and disgusted to learn about the reports of comments made by a small group of Young Republicans,” he said. “Just as we call out vile racist and anti-Semetic rhetoric on the far left, we must not tolerate it within our ranks.”

Yet, Ed didn't condemn his former daughter-in-law for looking like a ho the day she married his son

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by Anonymousreply 92October 14, 2025 11:11 PM

Seriously r90?

by Anonymousreply 93October 14, 2025 11:12 PM
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by Anonymousreply 94October 14, 2025 11:15 PM

My governor is all out of fucks to give and I'm so fucking here for it.

by Anonymousreply 95October 14, 2025 11:18 PM

[quote] Whining about "The Left" because someone was snippy with you online or you saw something on Twitter one time or a college professor was disciplined over something a lot more complex than one opinion, and twisting that around to blame the 11% of this country that identify as leftist for the 48% who are full blown fascists, well, that must take a lot of mental gymnastics. I can't imagine.

Again, all I said was that excesses on the left accelerated the radicalization of MAGA and help it attract support. That’s not saying the left is somehow equivalent to the right. And it is certainly not blaming the left for creating fascism.

Your overreaction to my narrow point actually proves it. I made a small and uncontroversial criticism and you attack me as deranged. Exactly what I was referring to. There is a degree of arrogant intolerance on the left that is not helpful to the leftist agenda. I am generally to the left myself, but that won’t matter to you. Any straying from the party line results in ostracism.

by Anonymousreply 96October 14, 2025 11:19 PM

[quote] for looking like a ho

How very dare you, R92! La Catsimiadis is the very epitome of demure good taste!

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by Anonymousreply 97October 14, 2025 11:23 PM

r96 there are a lot of black and white thinkers on this board with no critical thinking skills. It's a constant problem and interferes with discussions.

by Anonymousreply 98October 14, 2025 11:24 PM

It’s cute that Governor Hochul thinks Republicans will denounce these young Republicans. Look for them to get staff positions and other post of power, now. They’ve effectively passed the interview portion.

by Anonymousreply 99October 14, 2025 11:28 PM

Carpetbagging Harvard elitist Elise Stefanik is being drawn into this. I cannot wait to see her response.

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by Anonymousreply 100October 14, 2025 11:28 PM

Division trolls push extreme, patently stupid, positions on the left (as well the right) and some people fall for them for sure which is no help to anyone. Fringier and more extreme is rarely better.

That said the Republican Party is pure filth lately.

And way to go Kathy Hochul. Most of the districts Republicans hold in New York can be flipped. New York women aren’t pro-rape.

by Anonymousreply 101October 14, 2025 11:30 PM

These were the kind of Republicans I grew up around. They were polite and exceedingly well-mannered. MAGA is nothing like the Ewings or the Carringtons of the 1980s.

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by Anonymousreply 102October 14, 2025 11:31 PM

Bobby and Pam were not Republicans.

by Anonymousreply 103October 14, 2025 11:32 PM

Be kind to Andrea Cats, she needs to distract from the nose.

by Anonymousreply 104October 14, 2025 11:33 PM

[quote] or a college professor was disciplined over something a lot more complex than one opinion

What a strange way to describe someone who was hounded out of her job (as an evolutionary biologist) for this:

“In 2021, Hooven participated in a television interview in which she stated that while gender identities should be respected, there are only two biological sexes that are "designated by the kinds of gametes we produce".

by Anonymousreply 105October 14, 2025 11:33 PM

This story is getting legs. Even Chuck Schumer is tweeting about it.

by Anonymousreply 106October 14, 2025 11:42 PM

Fascinating to see the end results of generations of Southern inbreeding.

Luckily none of them having working sex organs, so not much chance of them reproducing.

by Anonymousreply 107October 14, 2025 11:46 PM

Not all Southern, R107; some of the worst offenders are NY Young Republicans.

by Anonymousreply 108October 14, 2025 11:48 PM

I stand corrected, R108.

I stick to my conviction that no functioning sex organs are present.

by Anonymousreply 109October 14, 2025 11:50 PM

"[R96] there are a lot of black and white thinkers on this board with no critical thinking skills. It's a constant problem and interferes with discussions."

There are a lot of pseudo intellectuals on this board who think pushing the "both sides" agenda makes them deep thinkers. It's a constant problem and interferes with our shoving right wing/neo-fascist talking points down peoples throats and patting ourselves on the back for being so damned smart and clever.

by Anonymousreply 110October 14, 2025 11:53 PM

R110 I agree with this statement wholeheartedly.

by Anonymousreply 111October 14, 2025 11:57 PM

And we're back in the "dUMBOCRATZ aRE tEH rEEL nAZIS!!" portion of the evening.

*long sigh*

by Anonymousreply 112October 15, 2025 12:01 AM

William F. Buckley purged the Birchers and other outright freaks from the Republican Party and gave racism and bigotry a more respectable face. That's why there was always intra-party tension with the wing represented by Pat Buchanan and his ilk.

Gore Vidal had Buckley's number.

by Anonymousreply 113October 15, 2025 12:02 AM

Whoa, the grocery heiress has lost a lot of weight. It also appears she's had the Greek schnozz whittled down, too. Or is r104/EL referring to damage from what passes through it?

by Anonymousreply 114October 15, 2025 12:03 AM

William Hendrix is serving some Lea Delaria realness.

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by Anonymousreply 115October 15, 2025 12:07 AM

[Quote] I seriously never felt that young Republicans were so full of hate during my college years in the mid 80s. Or were they and I was just too naive to pick on it?

It’s the Fox News effect.

Fox set out to make conservative-minded white people hate democrats, immigrants, and people of color. They did this to drive poor whites to the polls to vote against democrats.

They succeeded. They’ve created a vast chasm in our culture.

by Anonymousreply 116October 15, 2025 12:11 AM

Are they all Latinx? Why are they all riding so hard for wipipo?

by Anonymousreply 117October 15, 2025 12:17 AM

Here's William Hendrix. Control yourself.

I'm seeing a pattern.

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by Anonymousreply 118October 15, 2025 12:18 AM

Nah, there have always been racist and bigoted conservatives - remember all the vile shit Nixon said on those tapes - but Trump taught them that you don't even have to bother with dog whistle racism, you can just openly say racist shit (They're eating the dogs!) and still get elected

by Anonymousreply 119October 15, 2025 12:18 AM

R118, who wore it better?

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by Anonymousreply 120October 15, 2025 12:20 AM

R120 - Lea - and it's not even close. Lea is talented, funny, charming and has a beautiful voice.

Mr. Hendrix has...the Young Republicans. And triple cheeseburgers.

by Anonymousreply 121October 15, 2025 12:25 AM

[quote]William F. Buckley purged the Birchers and other outright freaks from the Republican Party and gave racism and bigotry a more respectable face.

In the 80s he proposed that in order to combat AIDS, gay men should be tattoed on their asses if they were HIV positive. He was a real piece of work.

by Anonymousreply 122October 15, 2025 12:26 AM

After looking at the photos, I expect the only battle these incel pseudo-fascist "militant" losers ever will see is the one over the last piece of Lee's Chicken at the bottom of the last greasy barrel.

by Anonymousreply 123October 15, 2025 12:44 AM

They’re all fat, smug little fuckers. Superior race, my ass.

by Anonymousreply 124October 15, 2025 12:45 AM

R123 - problem is - look at Steve Cheung and Miller and Patel and the other ugly dorks and losers in Trump's cabinet.

They're dangerous - and they're truly trying to seek revenge for not being perceived as cool or hot.

by Anonymousreply 125October 15, 2025 12:46 AM

R74

Most people would consider LBJ liberal, excluding Vietnam.

by Anonymousreply 126October 15, 2025 12:54 AM

R136 No Democrat wanted to look weak on foreign policy after the successes of Wilson, FDR, Truman, and JFK. He fucked it up, sadly.

by Anonymousreply 127October 15, 2025 12:59 AM

Hmmm...maybe, just maybe, the Vice President should/could have said that both parties are wrong?

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by Anonymousreply 128October 15, 2025 1:28 AM

State leaders shut down Kansas Young Republicans chapter.

Why are they acting all shocked? This is their party to the core.

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by Anonymousreply 129October 15, 2025 1:44 AM

[quote]Again, all I said was that excesses on the left

What do you consider excesses, r96?

by Anonymousreply 130October 15, 2025 1:51 AM

This is a water is wet story.

by Anonymousreply 131October 15, 2025 5:01 AM

R130, see, e.g. r105.

by Anonymousreply 132October 15, 2025 5:11 AM

R132, in a great big huge fucking effort to act so concerned in regards to "women" and "gender," I'm sure R105 is perfectly fine with abortion being banned in red states, resulting in ob/gyns leaving in droves, and a skyrocketing increase in coat-hanger abortions and sepsis deaths. Welcome to the 1950s. You're a real regular Susan B. Anthony. Cunt.

by Anonymousreply 133October 15, 2025 5:22 AM

But can they do a proper Nazi salute like me?

by Anonymousreply 134October 15, 2025 5:23 AM

Wrong.

by Anonymousreply 135October 15, 2025 5:23 AM

R19 I bet they all have cinder blocks holding up their beds.

by Anonymousreply 136October 15, 2025 5:30 AM

Is that first guy in r20 a trans man?

by Anonymousreply 137October 15, 2025 5:57 AM

All you fuckers have my underwear in a bind!

I love you dearly, but you are hurting my heart. I’m logging off.

We should be gathering this weekend; I’lll pour all my love over you if you show up for NO KINGS weekend.. I’m kind of stinky, but I’ll give you hugs in Seattle!!

by Anonymousreply 138October 15, 2025 6:26 AM

Indeed. So many captions, so little time.

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by Anonymousreply 139October 15, 2025 7:05 AM

R138k, I will hug the shit out of you. ‘Where will you be in Seattle? I promise to stalk you if you are willing!

by Anonymousreply 140October 15, 2025 8:47 AM

You're all drunk. Get some help.

by Anonymousreply 141October 15, 2025 9:11 AM

R141, drunks are fun. We hug. And we protest! I will be the Loewe dressed homosexual hugging random strangers in Seattle if you are interested. I’ll be wearing a blue shirt with their emblem printed on it. They produce the best long cotton! Love them and you., R141

by Anonymousreply 142October 15, 2025 9:32 AM

Why are they all so ugly and fat?

by Anonymousreply 143October 15, 2025 9:36 AM

R143 That’s what real maga Republicans look like. And effete Gunther Eagleton daintily eating a banana with a spoon the complete opposite of his Twitter profile image.

by Anonymousreply 144October 15, 2025 10:48 AM

[quote]to blame the 11% of this country that identify as leftist for the 48% who are full blown fascists, well, that must take a lot of mental gymnastics. I can't imagine.

R74 it doesn’t take a lot of mental gymnastics when you realize that republicans were able to convince most of the country that that very local 11% actually represented 90% of the Democratic Party. Trans rights, which affects .001% of the population was a major platform the republicans ran against the democrats very effectively simply by saying we are against men in women’s sports. Most people agree with that, so most people didn’t side with democrats.

by Anonymousreply 145October 15, 2025 10:58 AM

R145 Those people are fucking idiots. One VERY minor issue is all it took? They were just looking for a reason. If it wasn’t trans it would’ve been something else. Kamala rarely spoke about trans. If the 99.999% of what she said didn’t matter she, and Democrats, were/are not to blame.

by Anonymousreply 146October 15, 2025 11:01 AM

When you throw in lower egg prices with any other argument, you have half of the country. And it’s not a matter of not speaking about it, it’s the inability for the dem party to hold both positions on a small issue (I agree/disagree) and still be considered a democrat.

by Anonymousreply 147October 15, 2025 11:13 AM

R129 - I’m genuinely surprised that they shut the group down and condemned the rhetoric.

by Anonymousreply 148October 15, 2025 11:20 AM

[quote]That’s what real maga Republicans look like.

Yes, you're absolutely correct R144. Repulsive creatures.

by Anonymousreply 149October 15, 2025 11:23 AM

R126, "a liberal" is not a leftist. They are 2 different points on a spectrum but they are not the same thing.

Keep up, hon.

by Anonymousreply 150October 15, 2025 11:30 AM

Of course. They are heinous trolls. No surprise here

by Anonymousreply 151October 15, 2025 11:31 AM

R13, right, lee Atwater is the reason the US is the racist monster it is now

by Anonymousreply 152October 15, 2025 12:13 PM

I finally read the article in its entirety and it gives me hope, actually. I've been saying for some time that these people, left to their own devices will cannabilize each other. It seems that most everything they say or do comes from a position of reflexive hostility and their posture to everything and everyone, including their GOP brethren, is adversarial. I can only hope something similar is going on with their elders. Apples don't fall far from trees.

by Anonymousreply 153October 15, 2025 12:16 PM

Their elders get money to grease the wheels and keep them from killing each other.

by Anonymousreply 154October 15, 2025 12:20 PM

R150 the nuances of the party, what we know to be the truth, does not matter at all when the other side can successfully paint all democrats with one brushstroke. That is the point, while we are arguing what’s radical leftist, what’s leftist, what’s liberal, what’s centrist - dividing ourselves from each other - republicans accepted one and all no matter what. They were able to say “if you disagree with them on just one point, then you’re one of us.” That is what worked for them, even if they had to lie through their teeth. They didn’t really accept them - just long enough to get their vote.

by Anonymousreply 155October 15, 2025 12:26 PM

R152? [quote]R13, right, lee Atwater is the reason the US is the racist monster it is now

What I wrote at R13 is about the Republican party, and it's in response to the posters in this thread saying the Republican party has only recently become openly racist. The US has been racist since 1619 and nothing that I wrote contradicts that, so I have no idea what your obscure attempt at sarcasm is referencing.

by Anonymousreply 156October 15, 2025 12:33 PM

Water is wet!

by Anonymousreply 157October 15, 2025 12:46 PM

The US didn’t exist in 1619.

Blanket statements like the above that specifically paint the US as uniquely evil while being patently inaccurate are certainly part of the unhelpful treasure trove of division troll messaging.

Actual leftists should give them wide berth if they want to be effective.

by Anonymousreply 158October 15, 2025 12:47 PM

And has anyone from the democratic party said one thing about this in the media? Hell no. They should be screaming about this to the high heavens so that people know what the Republican party has become. Nothing more than a 21st century version of the NAZI party.

by Anonymousreply 159October 15, 2025 12:53 PM

R144

[quote]And effete Gunther Eagleton daintily eating a banana with a spoon

That was him?! 🤭 people were going in on “progressive” Seattle men when that came out, and I wondered if that man was even aware what was being said about him online. He definitely was.

by Anonymousreply 160October 15, 2025 12:55 PM

Well, Republicans are generally authoritarian personalities so of course it is easier to enforce uniformity. What’s important to them is belonging to a tribe, identifying its “enemies” and smiting them. Policy is secondary, except for the “glue” policies—opposition to abortion and lip-service to “Jesus.” The rich at the top look out for themselves and the poor and middle class at the base are not smart enough to think about economic policy, so they just keep quiet. That’s what’s interesting about MTG’s split from the party on health care. A very, very rare phenomenon.

Most on the left are more individualistic, are concerned with policies and see diversity as a strength. And dissent is not generally suppressed, notwithstanding recent progressive attempts at demanding a party line.

by Anonymousreply 161October 15, 2025 12:59 PM

Of course the US has always been racist because people are, for the most part, inherently racist. Valuing diversity is new. Liberals see embracing diversity as a crown jewel of American identity. The right sees it as an unnatural mistake.

by Anonymousreply 162October 15, 2025 1:02 PM

[quote] And has anyone from the democratic party said one thing about this in the media? Hell no

Wrong. It’s all over the media and all sorts of Democratics are speaking out. It’s political manna from heaven.

by Anonymousreply 163October 15, 2025 1:04 PM

And R162 has just normalized racism by making it an inherent and unavoidable human quality, while tying it especially to being an American.

R162 has turned the disgusting racist Republicans filth fest into all-American honest folk saying what everyone believes and everyone deploring their behavior into at best hypocrites and at worst un-American hypocrites.

It’s an object lesson in counter productive messaging.

by Anonymousreply 164October 15, 2025 1:14 PM

You were saying, r161? Funny, I had copied this bring it here before I read your post.

[QUOTE]None of this is remotely surprising. If you're at all familiar with young MAGA culture, this kind of conduct is common. It's a matter of in-group signaling. You show your commitment to the cause in part through your disregard of basic decency and morality.

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by Anonymousreply 165October 15, 2025 1:16 PM

You misread me. Saying it is human nature to be racist does not mean everyone is racist or that racism is somehow “normal.” People can and should learn to be better than tribal instincts. Surely you accept that racism against the native population and imported Africans and various anti-immigrant hysterias, including the internment of Japanese American and the current panic have been key driving forces in American history?

by Anonymousreply 166October 15, 2025 1:20 PM

Curious what you think the source of racism is, ElderLez, if not human nature? Some alien virus infecting much of the population?

by Anonymousreply 167October 15, 2025 1:23 PM

[quote] it is human nature to be racist

No: you have to be carefully taught.

by Anonymousreply 168October 15, 2025 1:25 PM

I think history and what is going on in the world teach us that tribalism is the baseline. What needs to be taught is tolerance. Living in a successful pluralistic society makes it easier to learn to genuinely value diversity, but most people outside the metropolitan areas tend to live in racially segregated communities.

by Anonymousreply 169October 15, 2025 1:29 PM

"Vice-signalling"

by Anonymousreply 170October 15, 2025 1:34 PM

"Human nature" is a made up concept that has been weaponized against gay and lesbian people for centuries. Hilarious that some troll is trotting it out here in an attempt to explain this away.

by Anonymousreply 171October 15, 2025 1:36 PM

[quote] Today (Oct. 14) is Charlie Kirk's birthday, and they're having a lantern vigil at 6pm in the tiny town in PA where my sister lives. In fact, they're having them lots of places. Look on Facebook.

I was in Arizona last week visiting relatives for a couple of days. A relative and I went for a walk in a park and there was a flyer for some Charlie Kirk birthday vigil event.

by Anonymousreply 172October 15, 2025 1:40 PM

^so humans have no innate social characteristics, r171.?

The fact that some people use a false concept of “human nature” to attack gay people (homosexuality is also a part of human nature), does not mean that there is no such thing.

by Anonymousreply 173October 15, 2025 1:41 PM

I don’t understand how someone can look around the world and see all the CONSTANT conflicts between ethnic groups and religious sects and not see that tribalism is a deeply-rooted part of human nature.

What do you think accounts for all the constant conflict?

by Anonymousreply 174October 15, 2025 1:45 PM

I don't think "tribalism" is as strong a force as some think it is. It's people who have figured out fanning the flames gives them power and influence. The interesting thing is how many of those provocateurs aren't even true believers but know if they keep us at each other's throats they can make a mint.

by Anonymousreply 175October 15, 2025 2:06 PM

You can fan all you want, but you need fuel for flames.

by Anonymousreply 176October 15, 2025 2:09 PM

Why do you think the Republican base constantly votes against its own economic interests? Is it because they have a true commitment to naked capitalism and reject socialized medicine or food support on principle? Or is it because their leaders have convinced them that a stronger social safety net benefits Black people who are lazy and undeserving?

by Anonymousreply 177October 15, 2025 2:17 PM

Even if it's not true, chances are a good number of them do and the paranoia gets ratcheted up. This is fun.

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by Anonymousreply 178October 15, 2025 2:20 PM

[quote] Or is it because their leaders have convinced them that a stronger social safety net benefits Black people who are lazy and undeserving?

How right you are, R177. They also believe Mexicans come here to kill and rape women, Haitians will eat their pets, all Muslims are terrorists, and the list goes on.

by Anonymousreply 179October 15, 2025 2:29 PM

R177, yes, this is why Republicans are trying to justify cutting Medicaid by saying it helps "the illegals"

by Anonymousreply 180October 15, 2025 2:55 PM

"Division trolling" = "people who disagree with my own divisive posts all over DL."

by Anonymousreply 181October 15, 2025 3:18 PM

Honestly most rational people realize that the trolls criticizing Dems for being "too woke" or being ruled by the "extreme left" are determined to sow division and fracture progressive support. But wanting access to affordable healthcare, and being concerned about the environment, and wanting access to a quality public education system for all, and wanting to be inclusive, and stopping ignorant assholes from shitting on the LGBTQ community, and wanting voting rights, and wanting to end to discrimination in the workplace, and a decent living wage that doesn't exploit workers, and access to decent, affordable housing is not "woke. "It's about building an inclusive society where everyone is welcome. It's about makin g sure we do not waste people. Yes. Waste people. When you have a well educated society when you build a community of inclusivity you are making America stronger. We don't subscribe to conspiracy theories about vaccines and we don't mock scientific research. We like clean, breathable air, and drinking water. So fuck all the people who say I am too woke and I'm not giving enough attention to the mean spirited, selfish, fearful assholes out here.

by Anonymousreply 182October 15, 2025 3:33 PM

Careful. R182. You don't want to be labeled "divisive" by a troll who refuses to see the United States in a critical light and attacks anyone who dares to deviate from that.

Some of the worst trolls here do it under the guise of "centrism" that chills any discussion or acknowledgment that strays to the left of Meghan McCain.

by Anonymousreply 183October 15, 2025 3:53 PM

These were 25-40 years olds. Pretty horse shitty to call them young

by Anonymousreply 184October 15, 2025 4:00 PM

What do the Republicans think will happen? Will people stop getting sick if they take away heathcare subsidies?

by Anonymousreply 185October 15, 2025 4:02 PM

R185, they want them to die. They don't care. Republicans know exactly what will happen, they're making it happen. They believe poor people are poor because of their own faults, and they believe sick people are sick for the same reason. Look up MAHA. They want to cut all government programs so they can have lower or no taxes. If you get sick or lose your job or your home, tough titties for you. "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, loser."

I really wish people would let go of the fallacy that republicans are incompetent and stupid. They are anything but. They are callous, scheming, and shameless, and everything they're doing is intentional. They want to cause harm, to poor people, black and brown people, women and gays. It's their goal.

by Anonymousreply 186October 15, 2025 4:09 PM

Why, yes, R185! As soon as we get the artificial dyes out of the Froot Loops!

by Anonymousreply 187October 15, 2025 4:09 PM

George W Bush sent a package of legislative proposals on Immigration Reform to his Republican controlled Congressin2007 and t hey refused to even have hearings. Repeatedly they have said they need it as a political issue, they don't want a solution. So now we have this monster sending ICE and National guard and a whole lot of bullshit, chaos and spectacle, and the Republicans in Congress do not even have the capacity to feel shame. Our government is shut down. There are troops in our cities, and this shit mess is something to be proud of?

by Anonymousreply 188October 15, 2025 4:09 PM

You really imagine that anyone who criticizes progressive ideology is on a mission to divide Democrats and is probably a hostile bot? Do you have no self-reflection? Do you really imagine everyone on the progressive side is sunshine and benevolence and therefore any criticism of them is inherently illegitimate?

And you say others are being divisive?

WOW.

by Anonymousreply 189October 15, 2025 4:19 PM

For the record I am an LBJ loving liberal. I am neither a centrist, nor a progressive although I probably have more in common with progressives than centrists.

Humans are hard wired to create in groups and out groups. We all do it. These groupings can be be based on race, religion, language, caste, political affiliation, sports team fandom or just about any other way to categorize people. These in group and out group can be relatively benign (yay for Olympic gold medals!) or they can be the impetus for the wickedest of wicked behavior; like concentration camps, terrorism and chattel slavery. How the in groups and out groups are structured is grounded in their cultural context. For example if I were a Hindu in Sri Lanka I might hate Buddhists in Sri Lanka, but if I then moved to Staten Island I might decide to live in a mixed Hindu -Buddhist neighborhood because they are more “like me” than the other Staten Islanders.

The thing about belonging to a group is that you incorporate perceived things about that group into your self identity. If I were a Mets fan I might see myself as a scrappy underdog because the Mets generally don’t win.

And the thing about most people is we want to see themselves as good people; as heroes even of their own stories. And most people, present company not excepted, get angry and defensive when we perceive that we are being criticized.

And one of the ways people deal with the discomfort of that criticism is to decide that they are being criticized for is actually a virtue. Hence, the proudly racist MAGATS.

There is an immediate sense of moral righteousness in some ways of phrasing things that is counterproductive to accomplishing the goals we want to achieve.

by Anonymousreply 190October 15, 2025 4:51 PM

You can always count on Jaydine to have the worst possible take on any given situation. Of course, he sees nothing wrong with their chat since he is no different from them.

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by Anonymousreply 191October 15, 2025 4:54 PM

Once a hillbilly, always a hillbilly

by Anonymousreply 192October 15, 2025 4:56 PM

JD is not a genuine speaker. He’s programmed to spout superficially clever (but ultimately empty) diversions to avoid accountability. This is the perfect example: Some Democrat once said something that sounds bad, so nothing to talk about. Next!

by Anonymousreply 193October 15, 2025 5:00 PM

Once trailer park trash, always trailer park trash.

You can take the boy out of the trailer park, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy.

by Anonymousreply 194October 15, 2025 5:01 PM

Vance is a fake hillbilly who didn’t grow up in a trailer park.

He’s just a pro-Hitler asshole having chosen to be VP to the man he himself called American Hitler.

That should be the focus of the response to his comments, not badmouthing large demographic groups of Americans by a (mostly false) class association.

by Anonymousreply 195October 15, 2025 5:09 PM

R189 we have shown we are perfectly willing to seek common ground and compromise as evidenced by the watered down Gun safety legislation that was passed when Biden was in the WH. As someone who has actually worked in government for more than 20 years both Federal and Local, I can tell you that without compromise nothing would get done. If you're looking for intransigence you need only look at today's news. Government shut down. Congressional majority hiding so they don't have to seat a new member, etc. In fact the Affordable Care Act is a result of compromise. There were some hardliners who wanted to hold out universal healthcare. Medicare for all was another battle cry. At one point Bernie tried to sink the whole deal. He went on a tear introducing his own legislation at the last minute. And somehow, we worked it out, and it got done. Pelosi who really wanted Medicare for All, was willing to compromise to get the act passed . We have shown repeatedly that we can compromise both internally and externally. I have seen nothing like it on the GOP side.

by Anonymousreply 196October 15, 2025 5:09 PM

If these boys hit the gym hard, lost weight, and practiced better grooming rituals they could possibly be attractive to women and once they got laid they'd give up this pathetic incel shit.

by Anonymousreply 197October 15, 2025 5:11 PM

R197, these humuncula couldn't even hack Ozempic side effects

by Anonymousreply 198October 15, 2025 5:24 PM

R196, My comment was not “all progressives are intolerant.” I was referring to the ones (like you) who insist that I MUST be a MAGA bot here to sow division because it is impossible for a genuine liberal to criticize the left.

Nor was my comment that progressives are unwilling to seek compromise to enact legislation.

Gun safety legislation is not “progressive” simply because progressives support it. It is the position of 75% of the public. When I criticize progressive extremism I mean congratulating Hamas and blaming Israel for October 7 and attacking an evolutionary biologist for saying in terms of biology there are two sexes with different toes of reproductive organs. That kind of hysterical “you stand with the oppressed or you’re an oppressor” thinking.

by Anonymousreply 199October 15, 2025 5:31 PM

Jaydine follows "race scientists" like Steve Sailer who believe whites are superior

by Anonymousreply 200October 15, 2025 5:36 PM

Jaydine has no fixed ideology. He’s just about saying whatever will get himself more power. At the moment that means siding with White Supremacists even though he married an Asian woman. It also means siding with Christian Nationalists who hate Catholics even though he is (for the moment) a Catholic. He’s a mess. Fortunately, everyone can see it. He has no charisma.

by Anonymousreply 201October 15, 2025 5:40 PM

[quote]JD Vance Dismisses 'Pearl Clutching'

Did he get that term from DataLounge? This is the first place I remember encountering it.

by Anonymousreply 202October 15, 2025 5:52 PM

It's time to learn some new terms to understand what is going on in politics, especially among younger people.

Accelerationists. This group wants to burn it all down. They don't think things can be improved using current institutions. They come across as messy, antisocial, and predisposed to violence, because they are all those things and worse. Accelerationists can be on the left or the right, but OP's example describes right-wing accelerationists. If 4Chan has a political wing, this is it.

Groypers. This is a movement started by Nick Fuentes, because, believe it or not, he didn't think Charlie Kirk was enough of a right-wing bigot. Groypers' goals are to move US society more to the right, and more towards traditional christian values. They claim to eschew racism, but the statements of many of their members betray the lie. They define traditional values as pre-1960s white european values. Groypers accomplish their goals mostly through agitation, heckling, asking provocative questions at conservative event Q&As, and otherwise confronting people and movements they don't believe are conservative enough.

T.J. Robinson, Kirk's alleged killer, was probably neither of these. From current accounts, he appears to be a young person raised in a very conservative and religious environment with lots of guns, who was still discovering his beliefs and political identity, as well as his conscience.. He made various comments that current right-wing politics were too hateful, particularly towards LGBT people.

These groups are rarely mentioned in mainstream media because IMO the media chooses to ignore that which it cannot control.

by Anonymousreply 203October 15, 2025 6:09 PM

These guys should be exchanging messages about going on Wegovy/Ozempic or Zepbound rather than spewing out racist bile.

by Anonymousreply 204October 15, 2025 6:14 PM

R202,

A 2022 Grammarphobia article says:

You won’t find any of these relatively new pearl-clutching expressions in the Oxford English Dictionary, standard dictionaries, or general slang reference books—at least not yet.

But you can find them in some works on gay slang, including Speaking in Queer Terms (2003), edited by William L. Leap and Tom Boellstorff, a collection of essays about the globalization of gay men’s English.

So did these pearl-clutching expressions originate among gay men?

Well, Speaking in Queer Terms gives several examples of gay men using them in the sense of shock, surprise, and awed admiration, but it doesn’t include any dates.

However, a gay character on the Fox TV show In Living Color is responsible for the earliest example of the usage mentioned in discussions over the last six months on the American Dialect Society’s Linguist List.

In an April 15, 1990, sketch, the flamboyant cultural critic Blaine Edwards (played by Damon Wayans) gushes over how daring the producers were to cast a male actor as the female lead in Dangerous Liaisons.

When told that Glenn Close is actually a woman, Edwards squeals in mock shock and says, “Well, clutch the pearls! What a sneaky thing to do.”

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by Anonymousreply 205October 15, 2025 6:46 PM

^Sorry, should be 2012

by Anonymousreply 206October 15, 2025 6:47 PM

IR199 since you are attempting to clarify, I will too. I never accused you of being a MAGA. If someone did, look further. I was referring to those posing as Dems or Indies who suggest we must lean more to the Right because we are too progressive and they criticize "wokeness." And yes as "unfair" as it seems, I am accusing them of trolling. I will also add that the current iteration of the Republican Party is indefensible. Anyone who self identifies as a Republican, today, has to accept responsibility for the cruelty, and the excesses and the literally un Constitutional actions of this outlaw band that has hijacked the name of the GOP. I cannot name one single thing that benefits the American people, that they have done or even proposed. In 2017, I gave people benefit of the doubt. I will no longer do that. Extremists have taken over the party. It is up to voters to tear down this monstrous fraud and rebuild. As former Republican Governor and Political Analyst, Michael Steele aptly put it, it starts at the state level. Too many people suggest we have to change or compromise our platform in order to win. But underneath their facade or "toughness" the Republicans are crumbling, and it took fucking around with our healthcare to do it. Good. Healthcare affects everyone. They were foolish and as they always do, they want us to compromise and shoulder the burden of the shut down. Fuck them.

by Anonymousreply 207October 15, 2025 6:47 PM

Maybe Peter Thiel taught Jaydine all the gay slang

by Anonymousreply 208October 15, 2025 6:49 PM

[quote] I never accused you of being a MAGA.

Well who else would “trolls . . . determined to sow division and fracture progressive support” be?

Anarchists?

by Anonymousreply 209October 15, 2025 6:52 PM

Jonathan Alter just posted this on X:

[quote]Vance's hypocrisy is mind-blowing--and a sign of thinks to come. Fortunately, he has zero charisma

Is he a Datalounger?

by Anonymousreply 210October 15, 2025 6:57 PM

R202, "pearl-clutching" was a term I heard here first, too. As R205 suggests, it may have originated with Black gay men. A few years ago, though, it escaped into the wild: I started seeing it pop up online in random discussion groups.

by Anonymousreply 211October 15, 2025 7:15 PM

Of course now that Jaydine has used it, it’s RUINED.

by Anonymousreply 212October 15, 2025 7:18 PM

Of course (as somebody pointed out somewhere today) young Democrats at places like Harvard and Columbia get kicked out of school and their university's federal funding cut off for saying mildly left-wing things, but when the Young Republicans say neo-Nazi things Jaydine's response is to shrug his shoulders and say "Boys will be boys."

by Anonymousreply 213October 15, 2025 7:29 PM

And now they're all getting fired from their jobs, one by one. LOLOLOL

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by Anonymousreply 214October 15, 2025 7:34 PM

[quote]These groups are rarely mentioned in mainstream media because IMO the media chooses to ignore that which it cannot control.

100% These groups don't fit with the media's "both sides" narrative, the one so many here suck in like opium. When the media claims that Democrats lost for being too woke, they can't pivot to a story on Groypers or Nick Fuentes. There 's nothing on the left that rivals those groups so the "both sides" narrative that claims "wokeism" is the worst of two evils will be revealed as a lie.

Bari Weiss, Jeff Bezos and their ilk wouldn't allow that so those groups aren't mentioned. Instead we get sensationalist bullshit over "Antifa" and people being deported for criticizing Charlie Kirk.

It's the same bias that always covers Republicans differently than Democrats; the sane-washing of Trump, the disappearance of the slain Minnesota reps from the news while we're on month two of Charlie Kirk coverage, etc.

by Anonymousreply 215October 15, 2025 7:54 PM

Insane how unsurprising this is

by Anonymousreply 216October 15, 2025 9:05 PM

Kids !

by Anonymousreply 217October 15, 2025 9:14 PM

R216, I can’t speak for you, but I’m related to these dipshits and I moved across the country to avoid them. They like the idea of torturing brown folks. I’m from the Chicago area and Markham is known to have had the “No Blacks After Sundown” road sign on route 30. It is now a 100% black suburb.

If you knew how much this drunk-assed queen used whiteness to skate on alcohol charges, you would rightfully stab me in my eye. I’m white and I’m willfully adorable - ok, in perhaps an autistic way.

by Anonymousreply 218October 15, 2025 9:17 PM

[quote] Of course (as somebody pointed out somewhere today) young Democrats at places like Harvard and Columbia get kicked out of school and their university's federal funding cut off for saying mildly left-wing things

I don’t think that is remotely true.

by Anonymousreply 219October 15, 2025 9:28 PM

[quote] Jaydine has no fixed ideology. He’s just about saying whatever will get himself more power. At the moment that means siding with White Supremacists even though he married an Asian woman. It also means siding with Christian Nationalists who hate Catholics even though he is (for the moment) a Catholic. He’s a mess. Fortunately, everyone can see it. He has no charisma.

Jaydine probably married Usha for money and he probably doesn't care if anyone uses racial slurs against her or his mixed race kids.

There are also probably far right wing Catholics who probably loathe Jaydine for being married to a Hindu woman. I was raised Catholic and I knew far right wing Catholics who didn't like Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, and I knew one person who didn't like Jews.

by Anonymousreply 220October 15, 2025 9:28 PM

Such a fat and ugly group. Wine moms hate them, Boomer Grandparents humor them, and real men treat them like shit.

How many republican cunts have you ejected from your company? We have visible abs, man titties, and biceps. JD does not make the grade.

by Anonymousreply 221October 15, 2025 9:48 PM

I will never understand why the trumplicans don't own it? Your racist, sexist, homophobic, white supremacist, christian nationalist etc. OWN IT. Immerse yourself in your hate. FUCKING OWN IT YOU CUNTS! trump could use every racial slur and treat Women like garbage. trump could lock up minorities, gays and whoever and whatever.

And they(trumplicans) still would give him the presidency.

The Japanese for millennia have known they are the chosen ones and the rest of us are GaiJin( Barbarians). The Japanese OWN IT.

Other East Asians such as ethnic Chinese and Koreans residing in Japan are not referred to as GaiJin, but by their nationality directly. Japanese refer to foreigners of non-East Asian ethnicities as GaiJin privately. And China calls the Japanese GaiJin?

by Anonymousreply 222October 15, 2025 11:38 PM

[quote]I don’t think that is remotely true.

Do you not watch the news? Here's what happened at Columbia.

"Columbia University disciplined dozens of students this week after its Judicial Board investigated pro-Palestinian demonstrations at the university’s largest library this year and at another campus location last year – as the school tries to get millions in federal funding restored."

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by Anonymousreply 223October 16, 2025 2:09 AM

R223, you are smarter than me. Explain what these people are saying and Please be slow for Me, a moron. I do appreciate you.

by Anonymousreply 224October 16, 2025 2:35 AM

R223, I’m a news addict and I didn’t see that story. Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 225October 16, 2025 2:39 AM

Do you think we are morons? Occupying the library and interrupting classes is not “saying mildly pro-left things.”

by Anonymousreply 226October 16, 2025 3:15 AM

All of the political violence is coming from the vermin on your side...and we're going to fabricate a report to prove it!

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by Anonymousreply 227October 16, 2025 3:54 AM

[quote] The ring leaders of the conversation are two years younger than Vance.

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by Anonymousreply 228October 16, 2025 3:57 AM

Not just kids

Senator Eric Schmidt (@ r227 LAST MONTH:

[quote] In the speech, titled “What Is an American,” he proclaimed that America is not “a proposition” or a shared set of values, rather it is a country for white people descended from European settlers, whose accomplishments should not be diminished by acknowledging the people that some of them enslaved, the Native Americans they killed, or anyone else denied equal rights at the founding.

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by Anonymousreply 229October 16, 2025 9:16 AM

R205 it’s a literary trope that dates back at least to the beginning of the 20th c. It was not first originated by staff writers on In Living Color. lol

by Anonymousreply 230October 16, 2025 9:56 AM

And which group of people is most likely to pick up on and use an early 20th century literary trope in everyday life? 🤔

by Anonymousreply 231October 16, 2025 10:02 AM

English Lit grad students

by Anonymousreply 232October 16, 2025 10:21 AM

Haha they all talk like they're hot young frat boys. But they're all 30+, probably closeted, fatasses.

So disgusting on all levels.

by Anonymousreply 233October 16, 2025 10:57 AM

[quote] Curious what you think the source of racism is...? Some alien virus infecting much of the population?

Fear and insecurity regarding difference. Difference is not affirming. People experiencing difference as offensive.

by Anonymousreply 234October 16, 2025 11:27 AM

Even if they were “frat” aged, their speech would be disgusting. Any college with an ounce of integrity would kick them out. But here’s Vance excusing them because he agrees with it. Did we expect anything less? These are people who probably idolize Miller. They are all one and the same. And not a peep from establishment Republicans saying this is not who the party is.

by Anonymousreply 235October 16, 2025 11:33 AM

Hitler endorsing Vance considers pro-rape, racist, anti-Semitic and pro-gas chamber views grown-up.

Will Trump fire his traitorous VP before Vance can destroy America?

by Anonymousreply 236October 16, 2025 12:11 PM

Jaydine is a shapeshifter who would throw his whole family over a cliff for a job.

by Anonymousreply 237October 16, 2025 12:55 PM

I thought they weren’t allowed to be fat now

by Anonymousreply 238October 16, 2025 12:56 PM

I'll post it just once more for reference and consideration:

On the morning of February 4, 2025 I woke up at 6am with the direct message "History is repeating." Further fortifying that claim, I simultaneously saw via my third eye the image of a swastika.

by Anonymousreply 239October 16, 2025 1:02 PM

That is horrifying, R229. But thanks for posting it.

Know your enemies.

by Anonymousreply 240October 16, 2025 1:02 PM

We had peaceful sit ins during the Anti War in Vietnam days. That shit is unremarkable. Unless the Republicans highlight it and hype it. Antifa isa non existent organization. There is no Antifa. Yet they want the public to believe it. They use "woke" which was street slang for being aware, and make it seem like a cuss word. I'm frankly shocked at the number of uniformed people who accept this bullshit. I am not shocked that this stuff becomes talking points promoted by the MAGA type trolls.

by Anonymousreply 241October 16, 2025 1:16 PM

R229, nice to know we have openly white nationalist Senators

by Anonymousreply 242October 16, 2025 1:52 PM

[quote] “America doesn’t belong to them—it belongs to us” says German-American Republican Senator.

Well, Senator, how do you suppose it came to “belong” to you? (silly question since he no doubt believes without evidence that it was given to white people by God)

You stole it from the people who were here before you by immigration and violence.

History doesn’t stop at the point in the past you choose.

It continues

by Anonymousreply 243October 16, 2025 1:58 PM

One of the chief perpetrators is actually married. Here he is with his shapely wife who was in on some of the chats.

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by Anonymousreply 244October 16, 2025 2:01 PM

The entire Republican Party is openly Christian Nationalist and white supremacist.

And anyone who thinks they are only concerned with expelling “illegal” immigrants is deluded.

People like this don’t stop. Remember history.

by Anonymousreply 245October 16, 2025 2:02 PM

Fun as it is...these guys can't help their looks.

But they absolutely can help their fucking repulsive opinions.

by Anonymousreply 246October 16, 2025 2:59 PM

They are no “opinions.” They are “jokes.” You can say anything you want as long as you call it a joke.

by Anonymousreply 247October 16, 2025 3:01 PM

The Holocaust was a long elaborate prank. I was just kidding, you guys!

by Anonymousreply 248October 16, 2025 3:11 PM

NY trash. What else is new.

by Anonymousreply 249October 16, 2025 3:20 PM

What’s on her dress at r244!?

by Anonymousreply 250October 16, 2025 3:21 PM

The pair at R244 are positively svelte compared to the others.

by Anonymousreply 251October 16, 2025 3:44 PM

What does Whiskey Pete think of these strapping young Nazis?

by Anonymousreply 252October 16, 2025 4:09 PM

[quote] I’m sure the comments came as a complete shock 🙄

It probably came as a legitimate shock that the moron would put it in writing, in a group chat that clearly identified him. That is stupidity.

by Anonymousreply 253October 16, 2025 5:22 PM

[quote] The people in that chat are all the children and grandchildren of Nixon/Reagan/Bush I&II voters so I don't know how anyone can say it was a different party.

Social media has enabled them to shed decency. I think a Reagan or Bush Republican would have corrected their children and admonished that they could not say patently offensive stuff in public because it would reflect poorly on them, their families and the party. The 80s were just 20 years away from the shocking brutality of (generally) poor white southerners. No one in Republican party leadership wanted any association with those people.

by Anonymousreply 254October 16, 2025 5:28 PM

I wonder if any of his Kansas brethren make fun of him behind his back for his uncanny imitation. This was retweeted by Rick Wilson who has two lesbian sisters.

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by Anonymousreply 255October 16, 2025 6:38 PM

The Vermont state senator's wife is fug is very unnattracive.

Sometimes ugly people have the ugly soul and personality to match.

Years ago, I worked as a social worker at a home health care agency. One of the nurses on staff was a racist and Islamophobic. She attended a Potter's House church and the denomination has a bad reputation and has been called a cult by former members. This nurse was unattractive and mannish looking. At time I worked with her hair was a dark grey. She friended me on Facebook and she would constantly post pictures of herself at church on Facebook. She always wore dresses to church, but she looked a grey haired hippy guy in a dress. Her husband and adult children were all unattractive. My former co-worker passed away in 2018 and she and her family were huge Trump supporters in 2016. Her husband died of covid in 2021 and her kids are still Trumpsers.

by Anonymousreply 256October 16, 2025 7:01 PM

All of these people were and are social rejects. They resent the cool kids. They're vile.

by Anonymousreply 257October 16, 2025 7:03 PM

JD Vance says that their comments shouldn’t ruin their lives. That’s only reserved for people who commented against Charlie Kirk

by Anonymousreply 258October 16, 2025 7:07 PM

The MAGAs who are into fitness probably shit talk the obese/overweight or unattractive MAGAs behind their backs all the time.

I

by Anonymousreply 259October 16, 2025 7:19 PM

[quote]No one in Republican party leadership wanted any association with those people.

Bwahahahahaha!

by Anonymousreply 260October 16, 2025 7:55 PM

[quote]All of these people were and are social rejects. They resent the cool kids. They're vile.

I think this is true of most Republicans today. Their whole agenda is revenge on everyone else.

by Anonymousreply 261October 16, 2025 8:02 PM

So true r261. They're total losers and have an axe to grind with the world. Nasty, vindictive people.

by Anonymousreply 262October 16, 2025 8:56 PM

[quote] “Deplorables” was a scandal for years and she wasn’t even in the government yet. This is the White House Press Secretary, whose salary is paid by the American public

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by Anonymousreply 263October 16, 2025 10:12 PM

Boom! Bam! Of course this asshole would be from Ohio....

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by Anonymousreply 264October 16, 2025 11:18 PM

[quote] The MAGAs who are into fitness probably shit talk the obese/overweight or unattractive MAGAs behind their backs all the time.

Like Pete Kegseth. A rotting liver and pancreas from his alcoholism but he said fat troops were disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 265October 17, 2025 2:12 AM
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