Justice Samuel Alito says he is not calling for same-sex marriage ruling to be overturned

Bullshit posturing became he signed on to a decision in which Thomas said that Oberfell should be reevaluated.

Plus Dobbs reasoning would be the act same used to overturn Obergefell .

In other words: I’m not seeking to do it per se, but if the opportunity were to drop into my lap then who am I not to seize it?

Oh, great. I'm sure we'll ALL be sleeping better now.

What a fucking liar. 🙄

At his Senate hearing, he swore up and down that SCOTUS precedent is so Important

But he'll be VOTING for it to be overturned when a case makes it to the SC.

Pure bullshit. Sounds like Barrett and Rie, settled law lying cunt.

The reversal of Roe already shit canned the Right to Privacy. Flipping Obergefell is just an affit9.

Bunch of fucking cunts.

Sweet Jesus how I hate Android spell check...

No lifetime terms - why was this ever considered a good idea? Serious question.

L U I G I ! We got another one for you. Actually, six. The 3 decent ones can stay, and you know who they are.

Thanks sweetie!

Instead of Americans' being so obsessed with electing a "Papist" as POTUS for almost 200 years they should've been more concerned with "safe" Protestant Presidents' putting reactionary Catholics on the Supreme Court.

They cannot be reasoned with.

I sometimes wonder if the Reactionary Six (they are not small-c conservatives) can even read. And if the legal precedents are read to them by their clerks, they actually understand what they are hearing.

If they aren't illiterate and haven't understood settled law, then they must just be sociopathic political hacks. And even the dumbest MAGA slob could do what they do.

Watch it, bitch!

R1 That is incorrect. Alito wrote the opinion, specifically saying “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”

Thomas wrote a concurring opinion that referenced that referenced this, but no other justices signed onto that. Thomas stood alone.

It should also be said that even in the extremely unlikely event the Supreme Court did overturn Oberfell, it would change nothing. Same Sex marriage is enshrined in federal law precisely because of Thomas’ provocative opinion. This was passed by a 61-36 vote in the Senate, and 258-169 in the house. Even in these divided times, that went through.

Is repeal in Project 2025?

That will tell you what they plan to do.

Obviously, to anyone who is even vaguely familiar with bills and laws - R14 is lying. R14 is a repeat lying troll who posts the exact same thing in every thread on DL which addresses gay marriage and SCOTUS.

Any existing, enshrined law can be amended or completely overturned by a new bill being introduced to Congress proposing the existing law be overturned or amended.

The proposed bill is introduced to Congress. If approved by Congress, it is sent to the Senate for approval. If approved by the Senate, it is then sent to the POTUS who signs it into law and the previous law is overturned or amended. [quote]To do this, the Republicans would require a majority in Congress and a majority in the Senate and for there to be a Republican President to sign it into law.[/bold] Which is what they currently have.

This has been explained to R14 over and over and over again and yet he still pretends and continues with his lying.

Yes the repeal is addressed in Project 2025 where they speak of "traditional family values" and "traditional marriage" R15. It's a regular theme which goes through the entire 992 page manifesto.

And after abortion, gay marriage is second on the list for MAGA christians. They have constantly spoken for years about how they want to get rid of gay marriage and send it back to the states like they did with abortion.

R16 Yes, it’s true, the federal law could of course be overturned. Given that it passed in even these unstable times, it would be highly unlikely. Regardless, if SCOTUS overturns Oberfell, it is a simple fact that it would change nothing, as I stated. If that happened and THEN both houses of congress repealed the Defense of Marriage Act, THAT would change things.

Also, it would require a 60 vote margin in the Senate to overcome a filibuster, not a simple “majority” as you state. And yes, they could vote in the senate to exclude this bill from being filibustered. Also possible, but that adds yet another very high hurdle to clear.

Who is the one with issues of facts?

[quote]R14, posting on this topic for the first time here.

Sure, Jan...

R16 and R18 Aren't we overlooking that SCOTUS could rule in a way that finds both Obergefell and the law passed by Congress are unconstitutional? Remember, these guys "legislate from the bench."

SCOTUS rulings can usurp laws passed by Congress, as well as executive actions and programs taken under the primer of Congressional legislation. One example: Biden used elements of the 2003 HEROES Act as his basis for student loan forgiveness. Our vile 6-3 extremist SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional.

I don't think marriage equality is safe from this SCOTUS. We cannot stop the fight until we have a balanced composition of SCOTUS justices and the right is enshrined in a Constitutional amendment. I've thought for a while that we need a bold Democratic candidate to take up the platform of a 21st Century Bill of Rights that would include marriage equality, right to health care, right to information (i.e., unbiased non-propagandized news), right to join organized labor unions, right to education, right to housing, right to employment, etc. Dare to dream...

Oops, sorry R18. You did acknowledge the law could be overturned. Read too quickly.

R19 Even if I had responded before to one of these threads, which I haven’t, who cares if I am posting facts and not disinformation?

R20 Overturning Oberfell cannot go so far as banning gay marriage. That was not the issue being tried with Oberfell. So these are two entirely different issues.

I do appreciate your clarification in R21 though.

It’s important people understand the laws and political process. If we are going to defend our rights, we need to understand the facts and not what people like R16 throw on the fire.

Sounds like wishful thinking.

MY HUSBAND IS CORRECT!

I have always gotten a gay vibe from this guy.