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What makes a relationship crumble more than anything?

I think that verbal abuse takes the cake.

People who constantly, and even occasionally, put their partner down, aren’t going to make it work in the long haul.

Because I grew up with an abusive mother, I fell into that trap, & have done this. It’s NOT good, & I’ve made a commitment to NEVER do that again with anyone in the future.

Slights, put downs, gaslighting, attempting to put a partner down in order to gain leverage isn’t cool. It sucks, & will tear shit down as quickly as going to physical blows against a partner.

Partners should encourage each other 100%.

In healthy relationships, there shouldn’t be any wiggle room regarding this. Partners should use their words carefully, when expressing disagreement or disappointment.

Treating a partner well, even when angry, is a BIG deal.

Sometimes we fail to recognize this, even after it’s too late.

What makes a relationship crumble DL?

by Anonymousreply 28October 2, 2025 8:19 PM

According to clinical and research psychologist John Gottman, it's criticism, contempt, defensiveness, and stonewalling. Of which the worst is contempt. He calls these four "The Four Horsemen."

But... my parents rode astride these four everyday of their marriage and are still together, so ...

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by Anonymousreply 1October 1, 2025 7:55 AM

I mean, it depends. If you behave like an idiot your love should call you out. Like drunk drama. But in every day sober life , never should your partner berate you.

by Anonymousreply 2October 1, 2025 9:06 AM

Apologies make a big difference too. If apologizing doesn't happen then yes, you should leave

by Anonymousreply 3October 1, 2025 9:07 AM

As OP said, emotional/verbal abuse tops the list (for me personally).

by Anonymousreply 4October 1, 2025 9:11 AM

R4 I know someone with a Tammy that is horrid! Where is your Tammy from?

by Anonymousreply 5October 1, 2025 9:16 AM

Vancouver BC r5.

by Anonymousreply 6October 1, 2025 9:30 AM

Thanks R6, the one I know is from the states. But funny that there are numerous Tammy's that are cunts! We refer to her as Tam Tam!

by Anonymousreply 7October 1, 2025 9:32 AM

Under a certain age, for gays, an important factor is a dead sex life with each other. Some of our DL crypt-dwelling PTSD eldergays may not relate to this as they are scarred from the AIDS years and haven't ever had satisfying love lives and sex lives.

by Anonymousreply 8October 1, 2025 10:48 AM

Stonewalling sounds fun. Reenactment of the riot.

by Anonymousreply 9October 1, 2025 10:54 AM

Taking it personally when one's partner doesn't worship the author of one's favorite children's novels.

by Anonymousreply 10October 1, 2025 11:10 AM

My feelings are this: treat the one you are with as beautifully as a 70s love song. Why are you with this human if not to spoil and adore? You can treat strangers or work assholes like shit but not the one that loves you.

by Anonymousreply 11October 1, 2025 11:16 AM

Dirty pillows

by Anonymousreply 12October 1, 2025 4:23 PM

My partner made it impossible for the relationship to continue. Verbal abuse was the least of it. He got us heavily into debt and when I told him we couldn't afford a trip he was planning he started physically abusing me. There was nothing to do but end it at that point.

by Anonymousreply 13October 1, 2025 4:31 PM

Fights about money and career issues.

by Anonymousreply 14October 1, 2025 4:33 PM

Contempt.

by Anonymousreply 15October 1, 2025 4:48 PM

Not having that bussy clean and ready whenever I want it.

by Anonymousreply 16October 1, 2025 4:50 PM

Money issues.

by Anonymousreply 17October 1, 2025 4:52 PM

When they have a separate social life.

by Anonymousreply 18October 1, 2025 4:57 PM

One partner always dragging the other along who wont do for themselves emotionally financially or have enthusiasm for the aspects that make life. Nobody wants an anchor dragging them down. My ex all he did was read books sleep eat and work. He had no juice for life. I cut the anchor chain.

by Anonymousreply 19October 1, 2025 8:05 PM

Black and white rules are pointless. We all have bad days. I’ve probably been guilty of every one of these at some point in 30 years. If you can treat your loved one like a love song every day of your life, you’re a saint. I don’t know many.

by Anonymousreply 20October 1, 2025 9:06 PM

I've learned to ingratiate myself with my in-laws. Husband's mother loves me. His sister is more difficult but he knows I try and is willing to admit she's a bitch. Even his mother says so.

I'm not supposed to repeat that but I can do it here.

by Anonymousreply 21October 1, 2025 9:14 PM

There is so much to say about this topic. I think abuse, verbally or physical, is the outcome of a different root cause. I notice with other couples (sometimes in my own relationship) that the partners lose common courtesy that they would afford anybody else, but not their own partner anymore. They get increasingly impatient with the partner about things that have gone on for a while without getting resolved in time. Once shit piles up it takes a while to resolve it all. And at some point you wonder if it's worth it.

by Anonymousreply 22October 1, 2025 9:22 PM

Loss of trust

Communication breakdowns

Infidelity (physical or emotional)

People who stop putting in the work

by Anonymousreply 23October 1, 2025 9:32 PM

lack of generosity. Nobody wants to beg for attention or be treated liked a doormat.

by Anonymousreply 24October 2, 2025 8:26 AM

When one partner stops fundamentally liking or admiring the other and doesn’t particularly want their partner to be happy…. or when that’s become mutually true. Once that is the way it is, it’s a shit relationship. The dysfunction can then manifest as anything from abuse to cold neglect, but it will manifest.

In a decades-long relationship sex tends to simmer down, but having sustained physical and relational affection and kindness, shared interests, a shared sense of humor are a much better way to slowly get old than having a lack of these things.

by Anonymousreply 25October 2, 2025 8:49 AM

Are you in northern Alberta, r13?

by Anonymousreply 26October 2, 2025 9:40 AM

Indifference.

by Anonymousreply 27October 2, 2025 3:19 PM

Alcoholism and addiction - unacknowledged and untreated.

by Anonymousreply 28October 2, 2025 8:19 PM
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