U.S. government shuts down

I am sick of winning, op

R1: Stephen Miller

You're fine, OP

[quote] lol

We don't do that here.

I'm afraid the Democrats will weaken and give in making the Republicans look strong and victorious. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to think positive.

R5 = Temu Tokyo Rose

OP - I hate to break this to you, but if you haven't figured it out yet, we're at the beginning of the end of the world!

So just FUCK IT! Have all the promiscuous sex you want, eat lots of pastries, say YES to drugs! All of them!! and have a great fucking vacation!!!

[Quote] We don't do that here.

Lol sure we do

[quote]I'm afraid the Democrats will weaken and give in making the Republicans look strong and victorious.

Because they always do. I hope for once they grow a pair and don't. Somehow the Republicans are sending out messaging that, even though they are in control of everything, somehow it is the Democrat's fault this is happening.

Unfortunately leadership is not interested in getting its shit together because the public would be on their side with this one, if they did a better job at informing people what it means.

Then again, Republicans and their pals control most of the systems used for messaging; social media platforms like Facebook, Instagram and Twitter, newspapers, and many broadcast news outlets.

Every western government is twisting in perpetual crisis these days

And their blinkered populations swim in ever warming pots of discontent

I wonder how Lisa Murkowski feels about her Alaska give aways for her vote on the Big Beautiful Bill of Shit Sandwiches, bring removed in recission?

The shutdown will finally reveal Project 2025 for the Plantation Revenge of the South for the Civil War.

It is the reason the Trump Bible has a US Constitution with only the original 10 Amendments.

That is as far as the Plantation States signed up for doing business. Nikki Haley was right.

We are here because Lincoln decided against punishing the south. We are here because of his bad decision.

He should have slaughtered every fucking Daughter of the Confederacy to be found.

R10, vs. the eastern shitholes like Russia or China. Uh-huh. I am sure living in those hellholes is peaches and cream.... said no one ever.

I checked and thankfully my 80 year old mother that lives off ss will still get her check. Fuck the maga cunts...all to not release the Epstein shit files!

Well, at least I get to sleep in this morning.

R11, what are you talking about? Lincoln survived the Civil War by five days. Blame Andrew Johnson, one of the worst and most consequential presidents ever.

Shuts down? It had been working???

"lol"

Oh, brother

[Quote] [R10], vs. the eastern shitholes like Russia or China. Uh-huh. I am sure living in those hellholes is peaches and cream.... said no one ever.

You mean the eastern shitholes Trump admires? He’s repeatedly said he wants the power of Putin, Xi or Kim Jong Un. Your boy WANTS us to be an eastern shithole.

Defacto, you are so fucked by the simple reality of what’s going on in the country right now. Every time you try to defend it we all get secondhand embarrassment for you.

lol,r17!

Ah, I miss the days when I was a "nonessential" Federal employee and got to stay at home ... only to get paid later for those unworked days.

r15, he said that the country needed healing, just like Ford, then he was assassinated, unlike Ford, and the South-Republicans went on to create destruction.

Does this mean I don't get my food stamps this month?

They're being replaced with Trump Stamps. Redeemable only for collectible Trump merch.

You're gonna die up there.

That reminds me to watch the exorcist ten times this month, r24, so thanks!!! It’s spooky season!

'How Democrats Backed Themselves into a Corner on the Shutdown." (Atlantic)

'Democrats Just Marched into Shutdown Trap." (WaPo)

"A Risky Movie for Democrats: Embracing a Shutdown." (WaPo)

Why are rightwingers so in love with taking healthcare away from Americans that they shut the government down because democrats wouldn’t go along with it?

Why do they hate Americans so much?

My 401k is liking the shutdown so far. It looks like the market believes that after Democrats have had the opportunity to express their displeasure, then government funding will soon be approved, so a short shutdown.

R4 & r17, I know we’ve got to have standards, but you hall monitors need to learn to pick your battles more carefully.

We need new and younger posters here. Stop being dicks.

Just say "why sir I laugh out loud" like the rest of us

Republican Lawmakers Live It Up At Fancy Resort As Government Shuts Down

Now I’ll be able to schedule my anus bleaching.

White House message

Kunt

Is r32 the Cockgobbler?

R34 TOTALLY

no, R10 - it's just yours.

Can you believe that shit?

Day 2. This time next week I can apply for unemployment.

R40, are you the new type of Project 2035 Troll that never mentions the continued destruction of America by de funding programs they couldn't remove?

Funny you mention socialism, when Trump has been absorbing part of Intel, and the Nevada lithium mines.

Nikki Haley was right.

I don't get the Dems going off the shutdown cliff over ACA subsidy extension NOW. It was never going to happen that way as part if the budget, Thune promised (I know, I know) he'd allow a vote on a stand-alone subsidy bill. If they're SO adamantly opposed to the ACA extension, let the R's face the voters with huge premium numbers next year. I just don't see what the Dems have to gain here?

r40 is also:

*Dry Drunk Pete Hegseth Is Embarrassing Us All*

[quote][quote]No, [R1], his plan is just to eliminate non-whites and women from the military. That's why he's been firing them.

[quote]No, just in leadership positions.

[quote]And combat where women are concerned.

[quote]The inconvenient truth is that white men make better leaders, like it or not.

[quote]And women shouldn't be on the front lines.

[quote]In fact, women shouldn't be in the military unless they can pass the same physical exam as the men.

[quote]But they can't. They modify it for them.

[quote] I don't get the Dems going off the shutdown cliff over ACA subsidy extension NOW.

I agree. The subsidies don’t expire until year-end. The House-passed bill funds the government only through November 21. Democrats could have agreed to the current bill and turned their focus to the October/November fight over the next funding bill. People seem to have forgotten that spending bills are a never-ending cycle. There will always be another one after the current one, and sometimes it’s very soon. The Democrats should have waited instead of bowing to the AOCs on the current one.

R45 George Paton Jr

R44/46 - The subsidies don’t expire till year end, but medical insurance plans have to presume awful restrictions in the Big Ugly Bill will take effect regardless - and they are preparing renewal notices now. Awkward.

But you have a good point.

The ostensible reason for the continuing resolution was that the Republicans couldn’t get their new budgets done on time (surprise, surprise!). They claim they [italic] just[/italic] want another seven weeks to get it all done.

So, rather than wringing their hands over the shutdown, why don’t these Republicans burn the midnight oil, rather than taking endless vacations (excuse me, legislative home work periods), and pass their budgets Now.

Shutdown ends.

[quote]George Paton Jr

Oh, dear.

Democrats’ answer to the sombrero videos is a video explaining their position, but using kittens to do it.

Where’s my crème brûlée?

Ask Bunny Campione...

Hopefully you'll still fly on Friday, OP. I think TSA is working unpaid until it's done.

Of course if it continues through holiday time, shit could get very real.

WHY aren't Dems jumping on every platform available to blast the Republicans?

R54, Democrats are going to give Trumpublicans enough time to show that they don't give a fuck about Poor MAGA. Healthcare Premiums now, Social Security next. SNAP and Medicaid in the rest view.

It will be ugly, it must be ugly, but MAGA will split along economic lines.

According to Trump...

Does anyone have a subscription to the Bulwark and cut and paste or use archive.ph on it? The paywall cuts this off after a few paragraphs and I can't get around it.

Here you go, r57...

Thank you, r59!

It's sad how people like you, R55, still believe MAGA can be reasoned with and will change their minds about Trump.

R60, it's not that MAGA can be reasoned with, but that the poors of MAGA will realize that Project 2025 treats them just like the poors if DEI.

[quote] WHY aren't Dems jumping on every platform available to blast the Republicans?

R54 I’ve linked an example of why I think most of the Dems don’t know how to message effectively in 2025. It might have been a lovely strategy in 2004, but I think it’s nearly useless now.

AOC makes short bullet-like statements, and Bernie spends most of his time mansplaining the supporting details to AOC.

I think the Dems need to learn how to to condense complex issues to one, maybe two, bullet points in 6th grade English on social media posts that clearly convey that a greater number of White Americans will suffer than Black Americans. I think white supremacy is the main or driving issue for core MAGA voters, and they abhor anything that would put them at a disadvantage to Black folks.

This way, the Dems would acknowledge that all races will be affected, but it would also include psychological warfare against MAGAs and their #1 driving issue.

Alas, I think this is beyond the Dems, except perhaps Newsom.

R62 "AOC makes short bullet-like statements, and Bernie spends most of his time mansplaining the supporting details to AOC."

You think this interaction between Bernie and AOC for Instagram wasn't completely rehearsed and made with multiple takes?

I hear you, R62, but what’s sad is when “they’re eating the cats, they’re eating the dogs” resonates. And then you top it off with a media that investigates it like it’s true instead of reporting that it’s being spread by an idiot.

Dee, no food stamps for you from here on out, which means no food. The great news is no food mean you won't need insulin either. It's totally a win win situation for you.

If you think the Dems are bad at messaging, there has never been a time where it has been easier for individuals to shape the national conversation themselves. The leadership is in a weak position, but if you think they should do better, do it yourself. Get a Substack, go viral on TikTok, start a movement.

Check out this official government websites

It’s laughably pathetic

[quote] You think this interaction between Bernie and AOC for Instagram wasn't completely rehearsed and made with multiple takes?

R63 It could well have been, which in my opinion only makes it worse, because that would mean people were paid to write and produce it that way.

R68 I have never worked in advertising so I'm not going to say that the AOC/Bernie Instagram was good or bad. I will say it was cleverly done to appeal to multiple majorly different demographics at the same time. I'm not sure if it reached everyone it intended to, but it probably reached some of them just based on chance.

R66, okay, Jan.

Trump needs to be tossed.

R71: He's entering the diminishing returns stage for them, behind the scenes I feel they're either waiting out his medical end (more serious than they publicly admit), or Article 25 soon where the few hard-core dead-ender MAGA are outnumbered by those who honestly feel that's for the best.

R71 right into a pit of vipers.

Apparently, Project 2025 author Russ Vought who runs the government personnel office and seems to be the point person for this shutdown, has removed any reference to the law guaranteeing back pay to furloughed employees from the website…

There is something seriously damaged in that man.

R75, he is a son of the plantation who believers America owes the South reparations for losing the Civil War. We stole their livestock, gave them citizenship, gave them the vote and Vought is hell bent on giving them healthcare and an education.

He was seriously damaged by The Lost Cause, which was never a lost cause to generations of evil, hateful Evangelical mothers who once owned slaves.

The Daughter's of the Confederacy should be designated a terrorist organization.

The law is the law. Employees will get paid

I thought they were going to layoff people, instead of furlough, to avoid paying the people who aren’t currently working.

The pukes want more power and they see this stunt as a way to get it. Democrats and Repukes are not as opposed as is commonly presumed. They both have the same goals in mind but they differ slightly on how to get there. Their goal is power and the electoral system has selected for these type of people to run it. Those who seek power are almost impossible to re train and they will do anything for power.

According to the NYT, delayed flight arrivals are starting to roil some airports (i.e. Burbank) as more and more ATCs call in sick.

The fast way for the shutdown to end is for ATC to coordinate a job walk-off.

The other fast way for the shutdown to end is for the Republican Congress to just go ahead and finish the overdue budgets they claimed they needed the seven week Continuing Resolution to do.

No excuses

They couldn’t even get a CR passed. In what world are they actually going to pass budget resolutions?

Ahhh, then why do they need a seven week CR ?

Because they can’t govern. .

I was thinking about buying a basic bitch ticket to Boston for next week, but I’m going to let ATC have this one. Walk away, friends. Same for TSA. Walk.

Democrats need to keep adding BBB adjustments needed to end the shutdown

1) claw back for ACA premium subsidies.

Next

2) reduction in funding for HSI and ICE

I agree with the goal R87; but I think they need to do it strategically.

Dems demanded your first item for the CR because it is almost universally popular - even many Republican members want it. It shows the public that Democrats are fighting for something almost everyone wants, over the White House’s objections. (It’s also possibly explains why Republicans are mostly getting blamed for the shutdown despite the WH’s “bully” pulpit.)

My guess is that enough Republicans senators will eventually cave and a health care compromise will be reached to allow the government to reopen, and they will tackle the outstanding budgets.

A conservative pundit who himself doesn't want the increased subsidy extended said soon the Rs will be forced to give in on it.

Air traffic control about to go down. . . .

I think the Republicans may end up changing the rules to pass some spending if the shutdown goes on much longer. Of course, if they do that, the Democrats will be in a much worse position regarding their spending priorities, because with a rules change, there's no more brake on the spending cuts.

The GOP will happily get rid of the filibuster

"I can't stand this indecision, married with a lack of vision... everybody wants to rule the world."

[quote]How about we pay the people that keep planes from colliding and don’t pay congress during a shutdown!

It feels strange to not have to wake up at my usual 6:30 am to get to work at the base by 7:30. I’m just getting so lazy because of the shutdown. I may be unable to go on my planned HAL cruise to the Canal Zone.

"The Canal Zone"? Are you posting from 1965?

It’s pathetic watching right wing commentators pretending that this shut down is about giving healthcare to illegals.

Just pathetic.

Democrats need to start adding adjustments to the BBB, like removing funding from ICE/HSI...

All in good time

A part of me wants premiums to go up so that we can say, "Told your dumb asses." The other part says just because you can afford it doesn't mean you should be THAT petty.

What I don't get is why people like Jefferies, AOC, or some of the younger reps don't go on the Joe Rogan, Andrew Schultz, and Theo Von podcasts to get that information out there. Drives me FUCKING crazy.

Marj has gone off the reservation again:

“The Republican controlled Senate used the nuclear option today to override the 60 vote rule in order to confirm over 100 Trump nominees, yet continues to claim Democrats are causing the shutdown.

Spoiler alert, the Republicans in the Senate can also use the nuclear option to reopen the government and override the Democrats just like they literally did today to confirm Trump nominees.”

I find it interesting that MTG is Rich MAGA, but her children are Poor MAGA.

Who elected this kwazy kunt?

Re: Air Traffic Controllers, wasn’t there an airport that shut down because none of the controllers showed up for work? Threatening not to pay back pay for furloughed employees is gonna work great as an incentive!

Burbank, r103.

I wanna get back to work. Better file for unemployment in the morning.

"It's the Democrats fault."