Jane Fonda is 'scared to death' she won't work again

Love her !

I love Jane, but let's be honest: how many interesting roles are there for 88 year olds, male or female.

She also had a big Netflix series when she was in her 70s: Grace and Frankie. She's had more opportunities than most women actresses.

There are other ways to perform her craft. She could do community theater and mentor some younger people. I would imagine she has enough money already.

Come back to Broadway!

Unless they make a vehicle specifically for her, I think she'll likely never have a leading role again. I would think there are various supporting roles for a woman her age. Then again, she might be perceived (right or wrong) as being too pricey for smaller productions.

Ordinarily I'd scoff at that kind of statement being made, but I suspect that she was being sincere. I'm sure the decline of her career is emotionally tied up with her own worries about aging and mortality.

We're all going to die.

This was like Joan Rivers--in A PIECE OF WORK, she had this haunting moment where she paged through a calendar for which she had not lined up dates yet and said, "This is not working! This is death!" and she was by then in her 80s.

You've got to let go at some point.

R7 Fuck you, I was 75 when that was filmed!

Jane hadn't appeared in anything for 15 years when she was married to Ted Turner. If she could do without her craft then, then why not now? Find another craft to occupy your time, Jane.

teach at Vassar for a year

Wikipedia says there were calls in the UK to retitle “Our Souls at Night” because it sounds like “Arseholes at Night,” which, in turn, sounds like a Joe Orton play.

Time for "Book Club Part 3"

How much fucking money does she have? She can’t bankroll a small independent picture herself? You can’t take it with you, Jane. Realize your own passion project and invite all your friends to collaborate.

There are so few people in the world who could make this happen, and she’s oblivious to the fact that she is one of them.

She developed and produced her own films to great success in the 1970s and 80s.

Just find a property you like, Ma’am, or commission one, and do it again!

I'm sorry, Jane, but there is nothing interesting or compelling about very, very old people. Please pass this onto your friend Barbra.

Agree she can self produce a project. She’s worth millions.

Sorry Jane. Some women are more in demand.

It’s not like she needs the money. And the way she looks in her old age, perhaps there’s a role about older women with too much plastic surgery.

What about a proper "Hello, Dolly," shinch I'm no long there to do it?

How about an ancient man-dependent beauty living in a nursing home finding true love for the first time in her life with an old, quirky, homely lesbian?

'Barefoot in the Park,' senior edition?

In my opinion, most of these folks who insist on working past their prime, politicians (Dianne Feinstein), rock stars, pop stars (Frankie Valli), actors etc. aren't doing it for love of craft or those they serve/fans but out of greed, ego, too many bad financial decisions (aka divorces) and family who are leeches. Jane would fall under massive ego.

She's had more than her share of everything. She needs to enjoy her dotage with peace and grace. Let someone else have their turn in the spotlight. Make room for others. Her time has come to an end.

With all known actors - they can work if they want to. It's that their egos make them think they have to be the lead in everything they do - and it has to be in a studio film or a big series.

It's not about acting - it's about power and adulation, press and awards.

Real working actors take what they can get - and they are grateful for it.

[quote]I love Jane, but let's be honest: how many interesting roles are there for 88 year olds, male or female.

If she looked her age, if she had laid off the plastic surgery and transitioned to a character actress, she'd still be working.

Jessica Tandy was working up until her death at 85. Hers were the kind of roles Jane Fonda should be doing today.

But how are you going to cast an 88 year old woman who is trying to look 35?

Because as well cultured and well-read as she is, Jane is still Hollywood at the end of the day. The plastic surgery was beneath her, but that's still the core of her.

Her documentary was an eye opener. She tailored her personality into whatever the man in her life at that time wanted her to be. Her retirement had more to do with Ted wanting his wife around than out of any need of hers.

I suspected she threw herself into her work so much over the last decade because there hasn't been a man with her. And she probably can't fathom just being by herself.

Her childhood really did a number on her.

With Jane’s current look, here’s the solution: RADIO

Carol Burnett is 92 and still working. I do think that TV has more opportunities for older actors than film does.

Carol Burnett also looks her age.

[quote] Let someone else have their turn in the spotlight. Make room for others. Her time has come to an end

What utter bullshit. She’s not stopping anyone from getting work or being in the spotlight. She can do what she wants with HER life.

I’d love someone determining what you should do with your life and when you are over and done you smug asshole.

[quote]Jessica Tandy was working up until her death at 85.

Yes, Tandy won an Oscar at age 80 ("Driving Miss Daisy") and was nominated for a second one at age 82 ("Fried Green Tomatoes") and received a posthumous Emmy nomination for her final role in a CBS movie ("To Dance with the White Dog").

[quote]This was like Joan Rivers--in A PIECE OF WORK, she had this haunting moment where she paged through a calendar for which she had not lined up dates yet and said, "This is not working! This is death!" and she was by then in her 80s.

She died just three months after turning 81. She wasn't 'in her 80s' in the documentary, she celebrated her 75th birthday when it was filmed. She barely touched her 80s.

[quote] 'Barefoot in the Park,' senior edition?

"Orthopedic Shoes in the Park."

[quote]In my opinion, most of these folks who insist on working past their prime, politicians (Dianne Feinstein), rock stars, pop stars (Frankie Valli), actors etc. aren't doing it for love of craft or those they serve/fans but out of greed, ego, too many bad financial decisions (aka divorces) and family who are leeches. Jane would fall under massive ego.

Do tell - under what category does actress June Squibb, who turns 96 on November 6, fall under ?

At 94, Lois Smith has several film/TV credits from 2024-25, and two upcoming projects. Awesome 73-year career as a character actress.

Tandy could only play irritable and soon-to-be-irritable again.

Ever.

Is Andrew Lloyd Webber still casting for the movie 'Sunset Blvd' ? Can Fonda sing the score ?

R26, Jane must be over that mishegoss, she ended the relationship with Lurch troll Richard Perry years ago.

I figure Jane is bored Get a hobby, bitch.

I thought she had cancer. That would be a problem for her insurance on a film.

I saw the movie she did with Lily Tomlin, "Moving On" (2023) and though a little bland and Lifetime-y it was enjoyable enough.

True, R39. Plus, getting insurance on anyone 88 would be a problem.

I see R23 in a nursing home trying to pick the posies off her smock.

Only Fans - there's an audience for everything.

The chances of Jane getting a leading actress/starring role may be rather slim, but perhaps she could have a supporting role or cameo in any number of the shows now being produced by the many streaming companies. There may be several acting opportunities for something other than the lead role.

Television: Is there a supporting role in any of the regular network's SVU/Law & Order type shows?

What about a supporting role in a limited-run Broadway play? I don't think she would want the lead actress role where the weight and success of the show might rest on her shoulders. Why does "working" have to be in a movie?

Maybe she can join Joy Behar's new comedy "My First Ex-Husband" which is wrapping up its Boston run and heading to a small venue near you !

Ugh r45. Speaking of someone who really needs to retire.

[quote] Carol Burnett is 92 and still working. I do think that TV has more opportunities for older actors than film does.

But Carol is just doing small roles. Jane Fonda would never agree to that.

She could release new exercise videos on YouTube.

I could happily never see another star senior vehicle--old coots living out their bucket list or visiting abandoned children, old hags playing with vibrators and going on blind dates with Wallace Shawn..

The people I know who never retire despire healthy finances are really in denial about death and aging and don't want to give up the prestige and power attached to their identities. It's sad.

[quote]The people I know who never retire despire healthy finances are really in denial about death and aging and don't want to give up the prestige and power attached to their identities. It's sad.

Like the Boomers who are still in the workforce, even though they could retire tomorrow and still be set for life. In my line of work many of the top-level executives are Boomers who should've retired years ago and enjoyed their money but they've kept hanging on because they love the prestige and they have no other interests. It wouldn't be so bad if they adapted with the times but their attitudes are stuck decades in the past and they are clueless about technology. It's very frustrating to work with these dinosaurs.

Barbarella 2 - The Next Chapter.

Working Ninety-Five. She, Lily and Dolly working as Walmart greeters, sharing an apartment.

There you go Jane - you're welcome. Let me know if you need any other help.

"Beloved Wife, Beloved Mother."

"She stopped getting work."

R.I.P

If she's not already on it, Jane should get on social media and speak out about the issues she is passionate: democracy, the environment, workers' rights, women's rights, etc.

She would have a huge following, and it would occupy her time doing good.

There's a lot of confusion about retirement. TV shows us healthy vital people with silver hair who are either on a cruise or at the country club. When it doesn't work out that way, many people get very bitter, Those who can't retire even though they have sufficient means want to pretend the world can't exist without them.

Jane could do so much good with her money and influence.

Poor Jane. I hope I don't feel this way when I'm 88 years old. Which won't happen for another 60 years.

R55- It won't happen to me for another SEVENTY years

Over her lifetime, Jane has probably had four facelifts. With that crazy mug, is it any surprise the phone is not ringing?

[QUOTE] Carol Burnett is 92 and still working. I do think that TV has more opportunities for older actors than film does.

I just finished bingeing “Better Call Saul” (fantastic) and was surprised when Carol Burnett popped up in a small supporting role at the end of the final season. She was fabulous in it.

If the dreary Ellen Burstyn can get work so can Jane.

Interview

It's easy to write a series with new guest stars. Any hospitality or vacation vehicle - AirBnb, Hotel, Cruise, spa retreat.

Have Jane be the proprietor of a weekend spa retreat with some youth rejuvenation treatments - and unload the old actor bus each week.

I don't get why she would ever worry about this anyway.

88 years old. Filthy rich. Produce your own shit. Mikey Rourke is a senior citizens who is also lamenting he can't get a friggen job.

"The Whales of August" is due for a remake.

She should put together a film project on Lillian Hellman when Lil was a miserable old cunt. She did very well playing her in Julia.

I said "most", r34, not "all". Although "many" would have been a better choice of words.

Jane could be the new Jessica Fletcher!

88? and her one time co-star Robert Redford passed away at age 89 a few weeks ago. I am not understanding the anxiety of an 88 year old worried about not working anymore. Mikey Rourke is broke. Broke, broke. He needs income. Fonda is wealthy and was born to a wealthy family!

Has anyone missed her?

She can only get work when I turn down a role. I nicknamed her "Second Hand Rose."

[quote]If she's not already on it, Jane should get on social media and speak out about the issues she is passionate: democracy, the environment, workers' rights, women's rights, etc.

That is what she has been doing for decades in between making movies. In the interview it sounds like she doesn't want to do this exclusively; she needs a balance with being an actress, too.

[quote]It's easy to write a series with new guest stars. Any hospitality or vacation vehicle - AirBnb, Hotel, Cruise, spa retreat.

Let's bring back 'Golden Palace'.

Jane’s global exercise empire made Barbra’s basement mall look like a shtetl pawnshop.

Old lady June Squibb gets work because she looks like an old lady. Unfortunately Jane passed into uncanny territory awhile back.

She should just do more activism. It's not like there isn't a fuck-ton to be protesting right now. Why hasn't she been chaining herself to ICE detention centers?

That said she is 88 and earned her rest on that front too. I don't want to watch Jane Fonda get murdered by some deputized hillbilly

Maybe Jane can reach out to BrendaD.

She could revive her workout videos. Just make them for geriatrics now.

On Golden Pond part 2

I’m reminded of what Linda Ronstadt said when she lost her ability to sing: “I had a long drink at the trough.” Maybe Jane could learn some gratitude.

Linda hated celebrity and fame though. While singing was of course a big loss, she never had much use for performing in concert.

I doubt it's her "craft" she misses, but the attention and adoration.

Seems to me like a total narcissist and bitch. Didn't she badger poor Bridget about her thighs when Bridget weighed about 100 pounds?

She does not meet my DL standard for being a nice person. Perhaps she can sit down and spare us further exposure.

R35 Will always associate her with Aunt Meg from Twister, but she was also fantastic in one of the best episodes of one the most underrated shows in history, The Americans.

All that coin and she’s worrying about getting work? First World, meet problems 🙄

AS long as she doesn't take her clothes off and run naked through a meadow or anything, like Glenn Close did - we're fine.

Jane should do Baby Jane.

She should go into politics-she's the correct age. Then she can just stay there until she dies.

Christ, why would someone want to work at 88?

I would probably want to work at 88. She clearly likes her work.

Can Dolly hire her to star in her new musical ? Can't be worse than what it is now.

R81 did you see her nappy pussy?

Why hasn't she considered voicework? Tim Curry's doing it still even post-stroke.

Most of us are scared to death that she will

Lauren Bacall kept busy in her old age with commercials for High Point Coffee, Arby's and Tuesday Morning. I suppose Jane thinks she's too good for that sort of thing.

R88 Speaking of Tim Curry, yesterday on my way to work, I was listening to my local PBS station in the car. They were talking about the 50th anniversary movies of 'JAWS' this summer, and the one coming up next month for 'Rocky Horror'. One host asked the other if Tim Curry was still alive, and the other host said, 'he's been dead for a while'. First thing I did when I got to work twenty minutes later was Google Curry - glad to find out he's very much alive. I hope the radio station put out a correction.

I watch Single White Female often, a guilty pleasure. Bridget's character wears ten inch spandex miniskirts throughout the film. Every single flaw, every dimple, every stray hair, stretch mark scar or vein can be visible in such an unforgiving swath of material. I am not surprised once BF dipped out the entertainment industry, she gave up starving herself and ruthlessly exercising.

Jane spends her time speaking out about the climate catastrophe.

As for acting, I hope she gets something she enjoys. Older people exist in this world and there's no reason someone her age shouldn't be acting.

I'd fucking cast her in a minute.

I suspect this will be more and more common as Boomers age into their elder years (I realize Jane is not a Boomer, but she’s close and is of their ilk). The whole world was geared to them for so long, and they were told they were the most important practically since birth. They seem less able to relax into retirement than past generations.

Bring back hagsploitation films so all these old gals can work.

[quote] Old lady June Squibb gets work because she looks like an old lady. Unfortunately Jane passed into uncanny territory awhile back.

This. Her energy at 88 is extraordinary but with her reputation and facelifts it's hard to imagine her sinking into old lady roles. Becoming old is hard. I went through more than one dark night of the soul when I retired, thinking I was free and not realizing what that means. You're largely forgotten. It's rough for the average person, I can't imagine what the adjustment must be for the famous..

In June she was on tour in Australia, speaking in Sydney and Melbourne. Ticket prices ranged from $79 to $549.

You could also have a meet Jane experience for $1000.

Paging Mr Murphy, Mr Ryan Murphy to the white courtesy phone

I guess she could tour Vietnam again?

Marrying Ted Turner turned out to be a mistake. How can you wed someone who insists you give up something you love? No pity here.

Jamie Lee Curtis has kinda replaced Jane when you think about it.

She should go volunteer at a soup kitchen and shut the f@ck up.

I have to laugh in the interview when the hostess mentions how Jane's mother passed away. Jane says, She didn't pass away. She killed herself!

No way, r103. Jamie Lee Curtis is a much more versatile actor than Jane Fonda and she also looks like a real person.

???????

I don't know if it was mentioned anywhere above, but in an interview in the past few years, someone asked Jane Fonda if she was interested in dating, because she had retained her face and figure so well. She said, "I ASSURE you, everything below the waist is now closed for business".

A classic line!

And many of us are 'scared to death' she will work again.

She should do more wacky old lady movies like that one about Tom Brady. That's her lane now. Or play an old bag lady like Lucy.

R102 yeah she was foolish to give up acting in some of her prime years and cave into his ridiculous demands. But she was still in her partner pleasing mode in the early 90s. With two huge egos the marriage was always destined for failure. I’m surprised she hasn’t been offered any role, but with so many streaming movies and tv shows she may not just be trying hard enough. And as some posters have said there’s always Broadway.

[quote] I saw the movie she did with Lily Tomlin, "Moving On" (2023) and though a little bland and Lifetime-y it was enjoyable enough.

I liked Moving On a lot, it was darker than expected. I thought it would be more “Lifetime-y” than it was.

Didn't Lilian Gish work till the end of her life? But she wasn't trying to look like Rita Hayworth at 26. She could also work on her French. Saw her interviewed on French TV and she obviously has not kept it up. Jody Foster is staggering. But also a lot younger.

R105 That's why we love Jane.

Sounds like she needs a new agent. And whoever said she should put exercise videos on YouTube was genius. Simple routines for the elderly could be a big hit. Then come sponsorships and so on.

But I’d really love her as a committed political influencer. She needs to join Tik Tok.

R74 R115 In 2011, when she was 74 Jane did a Prime Time series of 4 exercise videos for people over 50. Her best-selling book titled "Prime Time: Love, health, sex, fitness, friendship, spirit; Making the most of all of your life" was published in 2012.

I heard she’s auditioning to be the next Jessica Fletcher!

R115 Jane does have a large social media presence on Instagram, TikTok, X, and Facebook. Check it out. As R93 mentioned, her current focus for political activism is climate change. Just do a search for [italic] Jane Fonda climate change [/italic] and you'll find many results that demonstrate her devotion to making positive changes in this area.

Several years ago an acquaintance joined one of her protests in DC and they were arrested together. He said he got a hug from Jane for his efforts.

June Squibb is 95 - her latest movie is Eleanor The Great - if June can do it then Jane can too!

Maybe they could team up and have a senior themed 'Sista's 'til The End' movie where to old, cantankerous sisters living together get into constant squabbles and eventually end up killing each other!

Jane had her day in the sun decades ago - the clouds started rolling in the late 90's, night has fallen and her final curtain will soon fall. So Jane, if you're listening, make that call to June and get that movie into production - time's a wastin'!

If she was a painter or writer she could work till she dropped. As an actress, she relies on outside sources for work. It’s not about money or fame which she already has. She wants to continue her craft which hurts nobody else. Good luck to her.

r106 Hi Jamie!

The Whales of August is due for a remake, a perfect opportunity for two senior actresses to shine in leading roles appropriate for their ages.

In the radio interview she tells the tale of urging Alan Pakula to cast Faye as Bree Daniels instead of her. But here says Kaye instead of Faye.

[quote]This. Her energy at 88 is extraordinary

Someone is posting from 2017, since Squibb will be turning 96 in November.

[quote]As an actress, she relies on outside sources for work.

Maybe she could put on a show in her garage!

[quote]How can you wed someone who insists you give up something you love? No pity here.

Sounds like you've never been in love before. This has been going on forever. Spouses / committed partners make sacrifices for each other since the beginning of time.

The only part Jane can play now is a rich elderly woman who has had a ton of plastic surgery. She created her own career demise.

Ego, ego and more ego. Not having the bright lights, the custom gowns and the movie interviews hits directly at her life purpose. Fame, constant attention and her legacy status as a Hollywood star is her drug addiction.

All that fame and money, not 1 person in 100,000 is as blessed as Jane is, and at age 88 she can’t handle it? Can’t accept what even a child knows: there comes a season when your life reaches its end.

She says being married to Ted was a full time job with no room for making movies.

R131 A lot of spouses feel that way - especially when one has so much going on in their lives.

Let's not forget this question was posed to Kamala Harris' husband Doug a year ago. Was he willing to give up his successful law career and everything else in his life to take a backseat to his wife if she became President - he said 'absolutely'.

She’s an idiot. I saw her on tv two years ago talking about Latinx and holding up books which were teaching her about them. She’s a throwback stereotype from the 1970s. She’s basically Maude. A privileged white person trying to learn about the poors from her gated community.

Fuck off, pendejo R133.

R67, Robert Redford DIED, he didn't ‘pass away’ like one of you relatives.

Frankly, Jane Fonda looks so plastic from all that surgery, she can’t be seen in close up. Of course she could produce something or get a job in a supporting role, but she wants to be the STAR.

Meh. At 88, I wouldn’t want to be working. Fuck, I don’t even want to live to 88. Think of how many people are drooling in their food trays at some shitty nursing home by that age, Jane.

Both Faye Dunaway and Kaye Ballard were suggested for the coveted role of Bree Daniels.

You must know what all of this means, people. Jane is lonesome and bored because her own family keeps her at arms length. Old Granny is unwelcome at her children and grandchildren’s houses 65% the time, she HAS to find something to do with her time.

Jane Fonda should do what most washed up actresses over 65 do - write children’s books and paint bad paintings. I suggest watercolor because by the time she mixes the oil, she could be dead.

I thought it was Danny Kaye or Stubby Kay but both were dead.

She should've taken up photography.

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Liza works in clay.

Why does this claim remind me of Bette Davis' newspaper ad in the 1960s?

Jane's pretty much in a league to herself. Who else has ever been above the title for 65 years? Maybe Shirley MacLaine, but I can't think of any other actress who's accomplished that.

If she were really scared to death, the problem would solve itself.

R123, I can’t imagine a remake of The Whales of August now. These actresses today look so artificial. I’d never believe Jane Fonda lived a quiet life with her blind sister in Maine while also making time for dermatologist appointments and nips/tucks in Boston.

R142, in clay or with clay?

R136- Can I have your stuff?

Jane seems in denial about her age. At 87, she should be scared to death of death, not being out of favor for show biz. Haven’t you received enough attention Jane?

Those of us who saw either BOOK CLUB movie or 80 FOR BRADY are scared to death that she WILL work again.

She always sounds hysterical when she speaks.

Maybe Jamie Lee Curtis will put her in her new 'Murder She Wrote' as a killer, or a corpse. Angela used to do it all the time with her friends.

[quote]R151 She always sounds hysterical when she speaks.

Why don’t you go put a meat cleaver up your twat?

Thank you.

Get off the fucking stage and, more importantly, stop fucking whining about your vanity and your fears.

It's unseemly to be 88 years old, to have started in 54 films, won a library full of major awards, and to have a couple hundred million in the bank only to measure your worth by what leading actor roles you are offered in major films. Do I look pretty? Do I look younger than my years? Should I do more plastic surgery? Does the public love me? Who's directing the picture? Will my name appear first?

Get a fucking hobby. Read. Start a foundation or three to support writers of great roles, or support women directors, or whatever cause she wants to champion. It's that or underwrite the insurance policy to provide that she lives long enough to finish filming a role.

I have yet to hear a good reason why a woman her age should give up acting. She's an older woman. She's not going to be taking roles from young starlets who haven't had a chance. The bias actually works the other direction. And older women exist and should be, and sometimes are, represented in movies and TV, so someone needs to play those roles.

And she has found a good cause and has been working for it regularly for years now. She wants to do some acting on top of that. Why is that so bad?

R153: Jane speaks!

The Jane haters on this thread are very clearly MAGA-adjacent. It’s obviously. MAGA loathes Jane Fonda.

It’s not bad, R155, it’s delusional. She not getting job offers for whatever reason, could be her advanced age. Go talk to them, not us.

*obvious

Take off the wig and make-up and look your age and roles will come. A remake of "On Golden Pond" with DeNiro would be nice.

Hispanic families are being arrested in Chicago's loop, The administration wants to send the guard to Portland. The Secretary of Transportation has clawed back the necessary funds to finish California's high speed rails and has announced the funds are available to states with high birth rates. We had a nother mass shooting today.

And Jane Fonda is scared she won't act again. Sorry, she's a narcissist and not very interesting at that.

Yes and you probably voted for all of that, R161.

I have never voted for anyone but Democrats in my life. Nice try.

Jane is among the most politically involved in Hollywood, R161, as has been the case for decades. She's constantly participating in protests and fundraising.

She was responding directly to a question from Amanpour and stayed on topic.

You’re still a cunt, R163.

Warning - MAGA at R157

She is now a.valuable institution. Marbled as well. Doubly difficult to cast, throws things off kilter in a lesser part.

That’s cute, R166.

Honestly, since she has so much experience as a producer, that’s one way she COULD make a difference in the final chapter of her life.

The world doesn’t necessarily need another Jane Fonda vehicle, but there are surely female historic figures of all ages that deserve to have their stories told. She could spearhead those.

Her health must be in excellent condition if that’s what she is scared of. I don’t know, I hope I don’t alarm or scare you elders when I make these comments. My ultimate fear is death. Not any pain associated with dying but the thought of nothing. What if atheists are right. I know they’re wrong though. I just can feel it.

What this is about is that she wants film fans to respond with OH NO, WE WANT YOU BACK! She has no delusions about getting a part at age 87-88. Has there been any fans saying this? Asking this? She’s waiting for it.

R157, nice try, asshole.

CNN by journalist Christiane Amanpour

She has the dulcet voice of a funeral director.

There will be a few tears, but overall she will be fine. She is better off protesting.

R170 The nice thing about it is If you're wrong about an afterlife and the atheists are right, you'll never know.

I'm worried what will happen when I turn forty in seven years.

When was the last time that Jane gave a good performance? She’s put out so much crap in her golden years.

I’m surprised it’s not obvious to the people on this thread, especially since I assume most are close in age to Jane, but it’s not really the fact she can’t find roles she wants that’s eating her, but the fact she knows she’s approaching the end of her time on this mortal coils

One thing you can say about about Dump and crew is they make leaving planet Earth more appealing, R177 .

The original 1967 NYT review of the movie Barefoot In The Park- they gave her a really bad review and did not like the movie in general.

When was the last time that Jane gave a good performance?

R176 - I liked her in Grace and Frankie until her face became unwatchable after all the tinkering.

Does she regret that hiatus when she was Mrs. Ted Turner?

No.

She says in the interview Ted is her favorite former husband. But the other two are dead.

The other two openly cheated on her.

R179 you rang! I can see his point but nonetheless I enjoyed the film and thought Fonda and Redford had chemistry in this film. The same year NYTimes' critic Bosely Crowther also disliked Stanley Donen's Bedazzled and Bonnie and Clyde

Evidently it was discovered that Miss Fonda couldn't do much of anything too well, except for hurling herself into the arms of her astonished husband, played by Robert Redford, and planting violent stage kisses on his paralyzed lips.Thus much of the early part of the picture, including a prologue honeymoon in the Plaza Hotel, is taken up with scenes of Miss Fonda osculating and running around in scanty attire.

So voracious is her ardor, it's no wonder that Mr. Redford, who originated the role of the husband in the stage play and seemed reasonably relaxed in it, plays most of his scenes in a state of tenuous terror, as though fearful of being attacked—all of which makes one wonder how such a normal and nervous fellow could ever have got himself hooked up with this kookie kid

R100 That’s an excellent idea!

She could do a Playboy layout, to prove to Hollywood she’s still around. And vital.

We can do Monster-In-Law 2! Call me!

I appreciate her politics but never liked her acting.

Not in Klute where she was TV Movie of the Week adequate, certainly not in Barefoot in the Park, not in They Shoot Horses..., Coming Home, Julia, On Golden Pond, The Morning After, and not in the comedy ensembles of her later career.

It's simply that her acting falls short for me. And that I appreciate more the people who, at 88 or so, don't measure their worth by their spotlight wattage directed at them (whether CEOs or actors). I never found Redford a very good actor, but I very much respected his long second act in which he sought to spotlight others and support independent filmmakers.

It must be terrifying to have your mind still sharp but your body is dying around you. There's nothing you can do.

So many people aged 87 - 89 have died lately. It must be an age where the body just can't do it anymore.

I loved her in Silkwood - that black wig she wore did wonders for her receding chin.

Kaye Ballard's sensual, searing performance in The Mothers-in-Law convinced Jane that Kaye was meant to play Bree in Klute and that Jane would be nothing but a pale imitation.

The New York Times review of Barefoot in the Park was pretty bad. Despite that it was an immediate hit and played Radio City for months making it one of the biggest hits to ever play in that 6,000 seat theater. Then it went wide and it was huge. Neil Simon very stupidly sold it for a lump sum and got no points on the film. I don't believe he got any points on the stage play either. Which has been playing somewhere from when it opened in 63. He had a horrible agent and lost a ton of money on the play. He also did not participate in the profits of the film of The Odd Couple. or the TV show. Another ton of money lost. He still kept the rights to the stage play so whenever it is performed he shares in the royalties.

I guess I should say Elaine Joyce shares in the royalties.

Will Jennifer Aniston give Jane a role in the remake? Maybe even make her the bad boss??

of 9 to 5, I meant.

Maybe Jane has seen enough of what happens as you age and a once-active life slows down for you, starting with her father (although she has outlived him by a decade). Keeping active keeps you young - and I bet she's afraid her aging will catch up to her.

I had to laugh when Jane says at 60 she started thinking about death and decided she wanted to die in bed surrounded by loved ones. So she had to get some loved ones.

I wonder how many of them are dead now, R198

Strange how some people think retirement means sitting at home alone doing nothing all day, which is probably why some keep going and going in jobs they've become unsuited to.

[quote]Evidently it was discovered that Miss Fonda couldn't do much of anything too well, except for hurling herself into the arms of her astonished husband, played by Robert Redford, and planting violent stage kisses on his paralyzed lips

Redford's lips were always paralyzed.

Jane's last stepmother is five years older than she is.

Jane Fonda is an actress who has been good, very good, even Oscar-winning. But I'd be hard-pressed to call her brilliant (as I would call her father, in The Grapes of Wrath. 12 Angry Men, and a few other things). Or a "genius." There aren't too many movie actors any more one could call a genius, but, anyway, she is not one of them. She's gone plodding along, without ever being truly great, for decades. No reason someone shouldn't let her continue.

She's good in both Barbarella and The China Syndrome

go tend to your flowers Jane....

Maybe Jane should consider starting the day smoking a 'fatty' then she won't give a nickel's worth about getting back in front of the camera.

Or, Jane and Suzanne Summers could promote a Workout program including the Thigh Master for seniors edition!

Martha Stewart and Jane are in the same age group - they should team up.

Suzanne's thighs have gone from flabby to positively skeletal!

In my uninformed, nasty, ageist opinion, most of these folks who insist on working past their prime, politicians (Dianne Feinstein as a single offered political example as I ignore John Quincy Adams, Nelson Mandela, and Konrad Adenauer), rock stars (ignoring the superb work of the Rolling Stones in their latest albums), pop stars (Frankie Valli), actors etc. aren't doing it for love of craft or those they serve/fans but out of greed, ego, too many bad financial decisions (aka divorces) and family who are leeches. Jane would fall under massive ego.

I think Jane is absolute perfection in “They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?” Especially in that grueling second derby sequence. The moment when she realizes that Red Buttons has died and she still has to bring him across the finish line is just wow. She should have won for that.

She was adorbs in Tall Story w/Antony Perkins - it was downhill (FAST!) after that disastrous attempt at cinematic entertainment.

Of course Tony was in her prime and went on to bigger and better roles unlike Jane who's career (such as it was) floundered for years.

I feel sorry for these actresses that are older now and never took the time to raise their children properly or cultivate long meaningful friendships that would give them a fulfilling life in the lean times or even retirement.

Nope.” I’ve got to produce that movie. I’ve got to go to that protest. I’ve got to marry this guy because I’m only 50 and I am still very sexually viable! My kids will understand one day. My dad was a cold bastard, my mother killed herself and look at what I did with my life!”

I know she tried to make things right with her daughter. The one who made the remark about Jane being a chameleon. I hope that worked out. I just think it’s ridiculous that at 88. She doesn’t understand why producers aren’t tripping over themselves to hire her.

Also, that interview was about Redford and of course she made it about herself because she’s just as rapid as the rest of them. Just because we like her and she’s been in some classics does not mean she has any more sense than your normal Hollywood bimbo.

R210 along with Barbra Streisand and Faye Dunaway, Fonda was one of the was one of the biggest female stars of the60s/ 70s'/80 she received Oscar nominations for They Shoot Horses Don't, They? Julia, The China Syndrome, On Golden Pond, The Morning After and won Oscars for Klute and Coming Home. Films like Cat Ballou, Barefoot in the Park and Nine to Five were Box Office Hits.

[quote]There aren't too many movie actors any more one could call a genius, but, anyway, she is not one of them.

Thank you for saying this. I've been telling her this for years, but she won't listen to me.

[quote]I feel sorry for these actresses that are older now and never took the time to raise their children properly

Reminds me of what Diana Ross said in one of her later interviews on 'Actors Studio' (I miss that show). When Lipton asked why she turned away from movies after the 1970s, she explained it was because of her three little girls. She wanted to be part of their lives growing up and not thousands of miles away for months at a time, shooting a movie on location (she realized that while she was in NYC filming 'The Wiz' in 1977, and they were on the west coast in LA). Though she continued to get plenty of movie offers in the 80s and 90s, she chose to stay put and be home for her kids (she had two more sons in the late 80s). She could still manage her recording career (she lived in CT and her recordings were mostly done in NYC in the 80s), and did her concert tours in the summer and on school breaks. At 81, surrounded by her children and grandchildren, it certainly paid off.

Maybe she has a mortgage. Bills need to be paid.

R211, those who stayed home and let their acting career go are full of, oh no, I gave it all up for these brats!

[quote]I feel sorry for these actresses that are older now and never took the time to raise their children properly or cultivate long meaningful friendships that would give them a fulfilling life in the lean times or even retirement.

Add Barbra to that list, who just a couple of years back was complaining that she was unhappy with her career and felt she still had more to do. I don't think her son has much to do with her at this point, as she's devoted to playing happy Grandma with her stepsons' children and her cloned dogs.

And it pains me, but Cher as well. Two kids with issues, and she's chasing 30 year old men.

At some point you have to accept things as they are, and these women have had A TON of success and opportunities that a majority in their field will never get. But it's not enough. It's never enough.

I admire entertainers like Tina and Barbara Mandrell who walked away when they felt they had enough. Or women like Diana who still get opportunities but turn them down because they want to be with their families. And they never looked back.

Oh please, BARBRA was so fucking driven, nothing would stop her in the 1969s. Her son was not going to create grandchildren, so she has few regrets in that regard.

“She was so driven, nothing would stop her in the 1969s”

That seems like a line one would say in a Christopher Guest movie.

[quote]Add Barbra to that list, who just a couple of years back was complaining that she was unhappy with her career and felt she still had more to do. I don't think her son has much to do with her at this point,

Complete bullshit. She never said such a thing and you don't know anything about the relationship with her son.

Do you think Jane and Jeff Bridges are still together for The Afternoon?

Jeff is 12 years younger than Jane, but you would never know it in "The Morning After."

[Quote] Of course Tony was in her prime and went on to bigger and better roles unlike Jane who's career (such as it was) floundered for years.

Actually R210, after Psycho (1960) Perkins career floundered. Jane went on to Cat Ballou, Barefoot in the Park, Barbarella and They Shoot Horses, Don't They

Can no one in this industry retire gracefully?

Jane stuns on the runway.

[quote] she’s just as rapid as the rest of them.

Glad she's not constipated at her age.

Sorry Jane but that is not a good look for you.

she cant walk a straight line in that stretchy sheath and foundation garment "gown"

This thread makes Jane Fonda seem very interesting (beyond the politics). I just bought a copy of her autobiography of 20 years ago. Luckily this I can’t get a job at 88 shit will not be in it.

R225 - Jane seems to have some mobility challenges during her 'strut' in that ghastly enclosure she's wearing. As R227 noted, this is not a good look for her or anyone over 30 who isn't rail thin.

That old Hose Bag Martha Stewart was featured in a SI issue wearing a bathing suit while lolling on the beach - she was (at least) 80 - and looked it. Kinda reminds me of a beached Walrus.

Why would anyone with any self esteem expose themselves in such a degrading way just to say 'I've still got it' when it's been decades since they ever did. Maybe it's the med's they're taking that makes them 'think' they're still hot.

[Quote] She can only get work when I turn down a role. I nicknamed her "Second Hand Rose."—Barbra Streisand

Jane and Barbara worked with many of the same leading men: Kris Kristofferson, James Caan, Michael Sarrazin, Robert Redford, George Segal, Yves Montand, Jeff Bridges, Robert De Niro

She wore a jacket when she was in Australia in June so maybe that was hiding a chemo belly.

Bette Davis worked until she dropped dead. She said she couldn't ever imagine not working as an actress.

[quote]Why would anyone with any self esteem expose themselves in such a degrading way just to say 'I've still got it' when it's been decades since they ever did.

Please say this louder, so those old crony colleagues of mine can hear you. They all think they've aged gracefully and naturally like I have, and can pull off being a sexy goddess in their 90s like me.

I think it's admirable that Jane Fonda still wants to work. I hope that I'll still have that zest for life when I'm 88, which won't be for another 56 years.

[quote][R35] Will always associate her with Aunt Meg from Twister, but she was also fantastic in one of the best episodes of one the most underrated shows in history, The Americans.

Incidentally, Lois Smith first film was EAST OF EDEN, which was James Dean's first starring role and the only one released while he was still alive. It came out in March 1955 and he died in September. REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE was released one month later in October and GIANT over a year later in November 1956. He received back-to-back posthumous Oscar nods for EDEN and GIANT.

Anyway, here's Lois' screen test with Dean:

[quote]Bette Davis worked until she dropped dead. She said she couldn't ever imagine not working as an actress.

She also said in her 1987 memoir that she needed the money. An example of a project she said she took only for the money was Burnt Offerings (1976). When she tied in 2989, her estate was valued between $600,000 and $1M, lending some plausibility to the stories of her needing money.

*died in 1989

True, r237. Bette supported her leeching family members for most of her life and they really drained her finances.

Though she died at 74, Agnes Moorehead was another actress who said she would have to be carried off the set of a project before she ever retired from acting. That almost came true - she was at the end stages of uterine cancer, but still took the role in the Broadway musical 'Gigi' just months before her death. She finally left the production at the end of January, when she knew she no longer had the strength to leave her NY apartment. She was hospitalized in mid-February, and lingered for 10 weeks until her death. Yet she left her legacy as a 'working actress' - no a retired one.

[quote]Jane seems to have some mobility challenges during her 'strut' in that ghastly enclosure she's wearing. As [R227] noted, this is not a good look for her or anyone over 30 who isn't rail thin.

R230 reminds me of the ever useful quote from Samuel Johnson.

[quote]"Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all." --Boswell 'The Life of Dr. Samuel Johnson', 1791

She's an odd duck. Jane's a political activist but she'll also turn up to model at Paris Fashion Week.

Jane looks like a walking beluga whale in that.

Lillian Gish kicked me in the balls when I asked her if D W might have been a racist. She screamed at me 'It's Mr. Griffith!'

Lillian Gish at 88 was stuck on Love Boat and supporting Kate Jackson in TV movie drivel.

she should be “scared to death” as she’s pretty damned close to it......

[quote]R242 She's an odd duck. Jane's a political activist but she'll also turn up to model at Paris Fashion Week.

Yes, she has to be just ONE THING, people!

Either madonna or whore - pick a lane, or men get confused.

R230- Most older gay men too

R242, odd duck? You should be on the “things old people say” thread.

Jane reviving dad’s First amendment club is too little too late but will be entertaining as we await the gas chamber.

The documentary "Jane Fonda In Five Acts" is on HBO and it's excellent.

[quote] Why don’t you go put a meat cleaver up your twat?

Take your meds, Jane.

[quote] Either madonna or whore - pick a lane, or men get confused.

Nice try, frau.

Jane is a rich white lady who continues embarrassing herself with her little stunts to get daddy’s attention.

It's funny that Jane went from being scared to death because she wasn't getting work, to forming a committee (which is a perfectly fine activity for a senior, but funny that she makes it about herself). Now she is back in the limelight. She's the kooky senior who can't turn off the camera.

She SHOULD be scared to death of slipping and breaking her hip in the bathtub!

Hasn't she worked enough? Does she need the money?

She got a settlement from Ted Turner in her divorce. $70 million in stocks and a ranch worth $200 million.

Both her hips are titanium

Greedy bitch should sit down and stop inflicting her fucked up face on the public.

There are REAL actresses who need the work!

I deserve to work! I’m my father’s daughter! I have a career! People need me! I’ve always advocated for the little people! I’m a liberal!

When did DL turn into a MAGA cesspool?

Never forgive her for visiting Hanoi 55 years ago, r261.

R263, my original response timed out…

That being said… Those boys were sent to a meat grinder. They were drafted or signed up. They engaged in guerilla warfare, which the US really had little experience with it. Some went because their number was called. For others they joined because their number was early on. My dad was a very low number, so he joined. He left the person my mom married, he came back someone else. I am privileged to know the latter… I love my dad… With all of the flaws and frustrations and not knowing why he acted like he did. Also, not knowing how I could have done something different. I wouldn’t trade him for anything.

Go to DC… Take a walk along the wall… Look at the names… When you come out of the memorial, please be so flippant…

Fuck Hanoi Jane. I don’t care if the old bitch ever works again.

She says in the interview that the gun she sat on was not being used but she still did consort with the enemy to get information on the dams that Nixon planned to bomb. So I guess she was being Mata Hari.

Jane has apologized many times and explained the context, but that's not good enough for the old dogs growling and snarling with their desiccated bones.

It got a lot of press, but what one movie star did in Vietnam was totally inconsequential to anything that happened in Vietnam. It was a stupid stunt and should have been immediately forgotten.