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‘It's embarrassing’: Democrats seethe at Harris’ campaign book

Kamala Harris’ media blitz is doing little to temper the frustration bubbling among Democrats over her retelling of the 2024 election.

Over the last 24 hours, the former vice president insisted she isn’t burning bridges in her own party, rejected the idea that her infamous interview on "The View" tipped the 2024 election and didn’t rule out another run for political office.

“In an era where Democrats need all hands on deck in the fight to protect the country and the constitution from the lawlessness of the Trump administration, she had a real opportunity to be a critical voice in the resistance,” said Democratic strategist Michael Hardaway. “This book seems to be unhelpful and divisive in a way that makes it hard for her to be the face of the party as we look to the future.”

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by Anonymousreply 81October 6, 2025 2:45 PM

More than six months after her losing election — and with Harris now back in the spotlight — her book, “107 Days,” has reopened wounds in a party still divided over who or what is primarily to blame for their sweeping losses and President Donald Trump’s return to the White House.

Harris, for her part, argued on ABC’s "The View" on Tuesday that though “there were many factors,” ultimately, “we just didn’t have enough time.”

It’s not the first time a political memoir has prompted eyerolls. Hillary Clinton’s book tour in 2017 triggered a collective groan among infuriated Democrats, including one top donor who told POLITICO at the time “she should just zip it.” Biden, struggling to sell his post-presidency legacy, is expected to release his own White House memoir. Democrats privately worry the parade of scab-picking, backward-looking books isn’t helping the party move on, especially as its brand sinks to new lows in public polling.

“At a time when people are looking for a vision and leadership ... and want to see leaders rise to the level of threat facing the country, it's pretty crazy she chose to write a gossip book that prioritizes the pettiness of her politics,” said an adviser to a potential 2028 candidate granted anonymity to discuss the issue candidly. “It's embarrassing for her, and for all Democrats, considering she was the leader of the party less than a year ago.”

On Biden, Harris told co-hosts of "The View" on Tuesday she has a “good relationship” with the former president, who she praised as a “highly capable president who accomplished great things.” She described her own refusal to criticize Biden in a now infamous appearance on the same show in October 2024 as “symbolic of the issue.”

“I’m a loyal person, and I didn’t fully appreciate how much people wanted to know there was a difference between me and President Biden,” she said. “I thought it was obvious, and I didn’t want to offer a difference in a way that would be received or suggested to be a criticism.”

In an interview with ABC’s "Good Morning America" on Tuesday, Harris said she regretted not confronting Biden over his decision to run for reelection, calling it “reckless.” Harris made a similar assessment in her book, when she said “the stakes were simply too high” and it “should have been more than a personal decision” for Biden.

When asked about her own future political ambitions, the former vice president demurred, “I’m not focused on that right now, I’m really not.” A member of Harris’ inner circle told POLITICO last week that her book was not intended as a “burn the boats” exit from politics.

For some Democrats outside of Harris’ orbit, the book suggested otherwise.

“If this was intended as a campaign launch, I don’t think it got off the pad,” said David Axelrod, a longtime senior adviser to former President Barack Obama. “If it was intended as a catharsis, only she can know if it was successful.”

A former Biden and Harris campaign staffer, granted anonymity to discuss the issue candidly, said that if voters, like those watching her round of media interviews this week, “start seeing her as a sore loser,” that’s “the risk” for her politically. Some recent public polling found the former vice president’s favorability rating has dropped since October 2024.

Harris is not without supporters. Mike Nellis, a Democratic strategist who worked with Harris on her 2020 presidential campaign, praised Harris for her “speak[ing] her truth,” even though “that truth is uncomfortable for people.”

“I think if we had had more difficult conversations as a party over the last couple of years,” he said, “we would’ve been in a much stronger position to win the election last year.”

by Anonymousreply 1September 24, 2025 6:07 PM

Totally self centered . A money grab. Does nothing but hurt Democrats. F** her.

by Anonymousreply 2September 24, 2025 9:44 PM

As long as you can live comfortably, all that matters.

by Anonymousreply 3September 24, 2025 10:01 PM

I don’t think she has any intention of trying to be “the face of the party going forward.”

I appreciate her candor.

by Anonymousreply 4September 24, 2025 10:05 PM

[Quote]Mike Nellis, a Democratic strategist [bold] who worked with Harris on her 2020 presidential campaign[/bold]

He writes in support of her? REALLY?

by Anonymousreply 5September 24, 2025 10:35 PM

[quote] ‘It's embarrassing’: Democrats seethe at Harris’ campaign book

Seethe, cunts!

by Anonymousreply 6September 25, 2025 1:46 AM

I think it is good to get it out now. No surprises later, and is old news by the time of the next potus election cycle.

by Anonymousreply 7September 25, 2025 1:49 AM

Fuck Democratic leadership and Democratic strategists. It's because of them and their shitty fucking advice that we're in this mess in the first place. They're lucky Kamala doesn't read them for filth in her book.

by Anonymousreply 8September 25, 2025 1:53 AM

Harris genuinely believes her book will inspire young women just as the works of Hillary Clinton, Madeleine Albright, Condoleezza Rice, Nancy Pelosi, Sandra Day O'Connor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and others have done.

by Anonymousreply 9September 25, 2025 2:07 AM

[quote] “In an era where Democrats need all hands on deck in the fight to protect the country and the constitution from the lawlessness of the Trump administration, she had a real opportunity to be a critical voice in the resistance,” said Democratic strategist Michael Hardaway.

Exactly what [italic]is[/italic] the resistance, so-called "strategist" Mr. Hardaway?? Exactly who the fuck are you? And exactly [italic]where[/italic] is this alleged resistance you speak of, that mustn't be undermined?

Nobody knows who the fuck you are, and the same pretty much goes for our invisible, feckless party chair, what's-his-name from the endless carousel of establishment suits. It's fuckwads like YOU who got our party and our country into this mess. You had ONE job and you fucked us. Seriously, fuck ALL the way off.

by Anonymousreply 10September 25, 2025 2:08 AM

its not embarrassing but it's not what is needed

by Anonymousreply 11September 25, 2025 2:10 AM

She'll never be elected to anything, and she knows it. So why not just write a book and make some money.

by Anonymousreply 12September 25, 2025 2:15 AM

Charlamagne tha God threw cold water on former President Joe Biden’s legacy, claiming it’s “over” following the release of former Vice President Kamala Harris’ book about her failed run for president.

“It’s over for the Biden legacy,” the radio co-host said during Tuesday’s episode of “The Breakfast Club” while chatting about Harris’s memoir “107 Days,” which was released Tuesday. “I always thought the Biden legacy was trash anyway. This definitely confirms it.”

Charlamagne tha God, whose real name is Lenard Larry McKelvey, went on to point to CNN’s Jake Tapper and Axios journalist Alex Thompson’s book “Original Sin,” which claims to uncover details about Biden’s aides’ efforts to cover up Biden’s physical and cognitive decline from the public, as more damning evidence against Biden’s legacy.

Charlamagne then mentioned a forthcoming insider account about a “broken White House” under Biden’s administration from former White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, which could further tarnish Biden’s image.

“To me, nobody was closer to [the Bidens] than the vice president,” he continued of Harris. “So it’s very damning what she says about Biden in the book, to me. I think the Biden legacy is trash.”

Elsewhere in the episode, Charlamagne praised Harris for “holding herself accountable” in the “fantastic read,” which he said he read “cover to cover.”

“She does hold herself accountable in the book,” Charlamagne said of Harris’ loss to Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election. “I think people are acting like she’s just out here saying all types of stuff about the Bidens. But no, she holds herself accountable as well.”

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by Anonymousreply 13September 25, 2025 2:18 AM

Democrats no longer understand loyalty.

The understood the value of loyalty back when Clinton was impeached for lying about being sucked off by a fat groupie.

President Biden's admin delivered.

Don't have to like the guy, his policies but he delivered.

DEMOCRATIC PARTY MEMBERS ELECTED PRESIDENT BIDEN AS THEIR NOMINEE FOR 2024 AND IT WAS A BLOW OUT IN HIS FAVOR.

How did the Democratic leadership and the donor class repay the President's leadership?

By removing him as the nominee AFTER HE HAD WON!

until the democrats fall in line and remember to support high ranking party members who have delivered for the party, "dems in array" is the tune we will hear sung.

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by Anonymousreply 14September 25, 2025 2:25 AM

THEY understood loyalty back when Clinton was impeached.

by Anonymousreply 15September 25, 2025 2:25 AM

According to Tapper's book, Schumer went to see Biden and told him he was pissing away his legacy by insisting on running for a second term. He visited him in Delaware to tell him to drop out and Biden laughed in his face and said, "You have some balls coming here to say that. " End of discussion. So apparently a lot was going on behind the scenes, but Kamala could not be a part of it because it was self serving and it could hurt her long term.

by Anonymousreply 16September 25, 2025 3:03 AM

People assumed no one was going to bitch about this?

lol, ok.

by Anonymousreply 17September 25, 2025 3:04 AM

She obviously hit a nerve. Fuck those people. They were the same fuckers who wanted Hillary to just go away, disappear. They wanted to erase her too. Fuck them.

by Anonymousreply 18September 25, 2025 3:22 AM

I don't think Biden was to blame as much as his power-hungry wife, DOCTOR Biden. She sure is quiet these days.

by Anonymousreply 19September 25, 2025 4:07 AM

R16 I don’t think Biden was ever really meant to be president. He wasn’t a strong candidate and struggled in the polls until the Black vote in the South Carolina primaries turned things around. Support rallied behind him not because of policy, but because he carried the Obama name and was seen as a familiar figure who could appeal to average voters tired of Trump.

He was chosen as the “safest” option to beat Trump—the same way Hillary Clinton had been framed as the inevitable choice before him.

Honestly, I don’t think Democrats have had a leader the public truly trusted since Obama. And Kamala? She never would’ve been elected on her own.

by Anonymousreply 20September 25, 2025 4:28 AM

I don’t owe loyalty to a man who put himself above party and country.

He managed to get away with it in 2020 because COVID gave him an excuse to limit the campaign, but by 2024 it was abundantly clear that he was incapable of running another grueling campaign. Then, only afterwards: By the way, he’s got cancer. Did we forget to mention it? Oops. Fuck the Bidens.

by Anonymousreply 21September 25, 2025 4:36 AM

[QUOTE] She obviously hit a nerve. Fuck those people. They were the same fuckers who wanted Hillary to just go away, disappear. They wanted to erase her too. Fuck them.

Why shouldn’t Hillary have gone away and disappeared, R18? Her loss to Trump was far more embarrassing than Kamala’s. Who the fuck runs for president and doesn’t make a single campaign stop in Wisconsin?

by Anonymousreply 22September 25, 2025 4:49 AM

[quote]Democrats privately worry the parade of scab-picking, backward-looking books isn’t helping the party move on

They're right. Scab-picking is our job here at Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 23September 25, 2025 5:07 AM

I wish there’d be a publishing moratorium on memoirs. They debase their authors while offering readers very little that is insightful or even interesting. Memoirs also exacerbate narcissistic tendencies among the reading public and their mental hygiene suffers a great deal for it.

by Anonymousreply 24September 25, 2025 5:41 AM

I would release it and shut up about it.

by Anonymousreply 25September 25, 2025 6:39 AM

She can hold her head high.

by Anonymousreply 26September 25, 2025 7:35 AM

Uhh, no, R26. She lost a perfectly winnable campaign. All of this “She never had a chance” is nothing more than a copout.

by Anonymousreply 27September 25, 2025 11:53 AM

Hindsight is always 20/20 and it is convenient to blame the candidate. But Republicans have demonstrated that you can run a pile of shit for President and win. Kamala ran an almost flawless campaign. I know. I used to run campaigns and worked on four Presidential campaigns, three statewide governors races as well as Congressional, county wide and state legislative districts. I did it for a living. And I worked in government. It has always been my passion and my career. The Corporate Media fucked the Democrats royally. They were never on our side. The fix was in even before Joe dropped out. It would not have mattered if Jesus Christ ran for POTUS with 9 month to plan and build an organization and come up with strategy. The media framed the agenda, and as usual gave Trump a free pass. There's a huge difference between reporting a news event and covering a news story. they never really covered Trump. He got a free pass again. Where was the outrage at a man who planned and instigated an insurrection to overthrow the outcome of an election and defile the Constitution breaking laws. When the media t urns on someone they couldn't get lunch from a street vendor. But they have never ever turned on Trump. Every news report was framed by illegals, crime and inflation. The press was aware of Project 2025 but they never really covered it. Their dishonesty and manipulation of voter behavior is the yet to be told story of the 2024 campaign and unless we figure out a way to break through that wall we are going to keep losing.

by Anonymousreply 28September 25, 2025 12:25 PM

R14, Kamala doesn't owe Biden anything. It's his selfishness and ego that got trump elected this second time. He literally tried to sabotage her campaign. And, yet, she's still acting far more gracious than I would.

by Anonymousreply 29September 25, 2025 12:34 PM

She was put in a difficult situation. Let her vent in her book.

by Anonymousreply 30September 25, 2025 12:34 PM

R29 He didn’t sabotage her campaign, he sabotaged the election by selecting her in his resignation letter. Even Obama and Pelosi were fuming over it.

by Anonymousreply 31September 25, 2025 12:48 PM

No, he literally sabotaged her campaign. He called her before her debate with Trump and said "my brother told me you've been trash talking me!". How childish and petty is that? Why would you do that minutes before she's about to debate with Trump? Also, he told her "no daylight" when it came to criticizing choices he made during his presidency. If Biden genuinely cared about the country, he would have told her "do whatever it takes". But his ego was just too big. I say that as someone that voted for him without hesitation in 2020.

by Anonymousreply 32September 25, 2025 12:57 PM

It's time for the Dems to forget about the past and move on; that includes re-hashing what happened and the players. Harris is old news-a symbol of defeat, warranted or not.

by Anonymousreply 33September 25, 2025 1:04 PM

Where are you getting that from, R32? Kamala’s book?

by Anonymousreply 34September 25, 2025 1:07 PM

[quote]He called her before her debate with Trump and said "my brother told me you've been trash talking me!".

If she was thrown off her game by that, she would have hated being president.

by Anonymousreply 35September 25, 2025 1:10 PM

It all - like most of these full length political memoir books - would have been much stronger as a long-form magazine piece in the NYT or Atlantic. But she really was mistreated by the Biden camp in some critical ways, and she's fully entitled to tell her story. For example the Biden admin should have been fighting back for her 100% when Fox and the like kept smearing her very personally as the so-called "Border Czar" at fault for the torrent of migrants in 2021-22. She was NOT at fault at all, and had zero power to increase funding or hiring or to marshal resources. Biden's people let it keep happening, she was a convenient scapegoat for them.

If you don't want shit written about you in a memoir, don't treat people like shit.

by Anonymousreply 36September 25, 2025 1:10 PM

#TEAMKAMALA

by Anonymousreply 37September 25, 2025 1:18 PM

[quote]“In an era where Democrats need all hands on deck in the fight to protect the country and the constitution from the lawlessness of the Trump administration,

So say the soft-on-crime Democrats, who refuse to prosecute/incarcerate violent criminals, because they're mainly black and they don't want to be seen as "racist."

The truth is, Democrats are the ones being lawless. Blue cities are practically a war zone.

Dems turn a blind eye to crime and won't report it anymore, which gives the illusion that crime has gone down, but that doesn't mean it's not happening or has not gotten worse.

Instead, they project all of their failures and misdeeds onto Republicans, which doesn't work anymore in this social media age where the liberal MSM is no longer influential.

People can see in real time for themselves what is happening around the country and don't need the legacy media (TV, radio, newspapers, magazines) to spin things to the left's benefit.

by Anonymousreply 38September 25, 2025 1:20 PM

There's a convicted felon occupying the Oval Office, R38, and he's a Republican.

There's a rapist/sexual predator occupying the Oval Office, R38, and he's a Republican.

There's a traitor who led a violent, armed insurrection against the rule of law in the Oval Office, R38, and he's a Republican.

There's an egomaniac who wipes his fat, white, entitled ass with the US Constitution on a daily basis occupying the Oval Office, R38, and he's a Republican.

So don't try to tell me, R38, with a straight face no less, that Democrats are soft on crime.

If you want respect for law and order, it has to apply to everyone and start at the top, R38, including fat, white rich men. Law and order isn't just for black and brown and poor people.

by Anonymousreply 39September 25, 2025 1:32 PM

No, this is embarrassing:

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by Anonymousreply 40September 25, 2025 1:42 PM

R35, she wasn't thrown off by that. But the point is Biden's behavior. He didn't provide his full support to her when he should have since he was the one who ultimately put her in that position in the first place. I'm realzing that this is characteristic of Biden. HIs two dogs actually attacked secret service agents several times. His second dog alone attacked agents 24 times. One attack was so severe it left the agent with an open wound on his hand. But the Bidens didn't put the dogs down as they should have. Instead, they relocated them. That's completely irresponsible behavior and shows a terrible lack of judgement. I know that Trump is the bigger threat, obviously, but the Bidens show an extreme lack of judgement.

by Anonymousreply 41September 25, 2025 1:54 PM

Exactly R41 — she tells the story not to say Biden messed up her debate performance (he didn’t; she performed very well) but to say Biden could be disturbingly selfish, messy and unaware of his own bad behavior at times. Harris’s imminent debate with Trump should have been the #1 thing on Biden’s mind that day. Either it wasn’t, or it was and Biden actually wanted her to stumble.

by Anonymousreply 42September 25, 2025 3:01 PM

R42, that's what's disgusting to me. And then for Jill Biden to say how "upset" she was that Nancy Pelosi's daughter referred to her as Lady Macbeth and how Biden was "betrayed". Jill, you and your husband are lucky you weren't hounded out of office by the other Dems for the way you behaved. Seriously, can you believe that Biden actually had a meeting with Jill and HUNTER to discuss whether he should stay in the running or not? Example of bad judgement, number1,565.

by Anonymousreply 43September 25, 2025 3:39 PM

Of course the "Democrats seethe" at the revelations (be they ever so minor) in Kamala's book. The reality is that the Democratic party suffered catastrophic failure when Joe Biden reversed his promise to be a one-term president. It does not matter that he was capable and had a mastery of the office; what matters is that he let his hubris and ego dictate his decision, and not what was best for the nation. And I say this as someone who thinks very highly of Biden (in fact, he was one of the best presidents we've ever had) but was felled by the decision to run again.

In a way, I can understand Biden's position. He has never had the respect he was due, even while he was in office. I have never heard a Republican POTUS say the things about his vice that Obama said about Biden (the one that burned was Obama saying "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up"). This clearly played a role in Kamala's allegiance to Biden and her very careful effort to not say anything negative or that could be construed as a criticism, a flashpoint for Biden as demonstrated in the quote (if it proves accurate) that he called Kamala just before her debate with Trump to ensure that she didn't say or do anything to tarnish his legacy.

But the party division neither began nor ended with Biden's flip-flop on re-election. There were those in the party that didn't want Biden to get the nomination in 2020; hell, there were those in the party that didn't want Obama to select him as his running mate in 2008. The reality is that there is no party unity among Democrats and it's not like Democrats have won anything but rather the Republicans lost. The country would have elected a rock in 2008 after W's utter failures, lies, and fecklessness; the same goes for Trump in 2020 when the entire world was on its knees, and my fear now is that the Democrats are counting on Trump's utter destruction of our standing in the world, our economy, of what little racial harmony we had — I could enumerate his failures for days — to propel us back into power, and are already underestimating the will of the radical right.

Bringing this back to Kamala's book, the reaction reveals that the Democratic party has yet to do the hard work and soul searching necessary after a loss as catastrophic as the 2024 election. If she's more than ruffled feathers, good.

by Anonymousreply 44September 25, 2025 4:02 PM

[quote] No, he literally sabotaged her campaign. He called her before her debate with Trump and said "my brother told me you've been trash talking me!". How childish and petty is that? Why would you do that minutes before she's about to debate with Trump? Also, he told her "no daylight" when it came to criticizing choices he made during his presidency. If Biden genuinely cared about the country, he would have told her "do whatever it takes".

[quote] Where are you getting that from, R32? Kamala’s book?

I'm not R32, but it's in "Kamala Harris: Gov. Shapiro wanted to be co-President" thread.

The op of that thread linked an ABC article which told that story.

[italic]Harris details a head-scratching moment for her before her high stakes first -- and only -- debate against Donald Trump. Moments before she walked on stage, she was told that Biden had called for what she assumed was pep talk. He offered her good luck, albeit "with little warmth in his voice," she writes, and assured her she was going to do "fine."

Philadelphia-area "power brokers" were hesitant to support her because she had been bad-mounting him privately. Biden told Harris he didn't believe those rumors but wanted to make her aware -- though she was blindsided as to why, of all times, he would reach out to bring this to her attention mere minutes before this high-pressure moment.

"I couldn't understand why he would call me, right now, and make it all about himself. Distracting me with worry about hostile powerbrokers in the biggest city of the most important swing state."

Harris said her husband, Doug Emhoff, noticed she was angry and disappointed at the call.[/italic]

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by Anonymousreply 45September 25, 2025 5:43 PM

Link to above mentioned thread.

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by Anonymousreply 46September 25, 2025 5:44 PM

Biden calling her before the debate to call her out for talking about him, I don't know how anyone could spin that as a positive or even a neutral for Biden. That was a low move and leaves me wondering if at least part of him wanted to sabotage her. There is no way he couldn't see how that call right before she went on stage could potentially shake her up before the biggest performance of her life. At best his dementia was already clouding his judgment, but no matter the reason, he's a fucking prick for doing that.

by Anonymousreply 47September 25, 2025 5:50 PM

[quote] DEMOCRATIC PARTY MEMBERS ELECTED PRESIDENT BIDEN AS THEIR NOMINEE FOR 2024 AND IT WAS A BLOW OUT IN HIS FAVOR.

This is laughable to me. It's not an impressive victory when you win against no one (unless you count Dean Phillips and let's not even bother). The ONLY reason Biden won a fucking primary is because Democrats were LOYAL TO A FAULT and refused to challenge him. The fact that they finally spoke up after that DISASTER of a debate didn't make them disloyal--it made them not members of a fucking CULT like the Republicans.

Biden should never have run for a second term in the first place and the only fault of the Democratic leadership was being TOO LOYAL FOR TOO LONG to a geriatric egomaniac and his megalomaniac wife.

So please fuck right off, Hunter @ R14.

by Anonymousreply 48September 25, 2025 6:28 PM

And yet, R48, mighty Joe Biden remains the ONLY DEMOCRAT to have defeated Donald Trump at the polls. You can't change history no matter how hard you try.

None of the other great white Democratic party hopes can say that.

by Anonymousreply 49September 25, 2025 6:49 PM

[quote]The truth is, Democrats are the ones being lawless. Blue cities are practically a war zone.

Oh BULLSHIT. I live in a very blue city, and feel perfectly fine walking the streets, at any time. When visiting my cousins, however, in their Deep Red southern city, we never go out past sundown unless in a group due to the HUGE amount of crime in the whole area, including a sky high carjacking and murder rate. Multiple times higher than that in my city.

The highest crime rates are in deep red state cities, such as New Orleans, Memphis, St Louis and Birmingham AL. Chicago and Baltimore are up there as well, but the red cities out pace them.

And don't bleat about Dems being "soft on crime" when the Republicans PARDONED blatant J6 bloodthirsty criminals, who looted our capitol and injured/maimed cops, causing death and destruction.

by Anonymousreply 50September 25, 2025 6:57 PM

[quote] Joe Biden remains the ONLY DEMOCRAT to have defeated Donald Trump at the polls.

So? That 's like saying because Obama won it proves we should run a black person every time...and yet Kamala lost. You can't extrapolate jack shit from Biden's single victory. Biden was incredibly unpopular at the end of his term, was perceived as weak and feeble, and polled worse against Trump than Kamala. Deal with it.

by Anonymousreply 51September 25, 2025 7:20 PM

[quote]Joe Biden remains the ONLY DEMOCRAT to have defeated Donald Trump at the polls.

Covid fatigue and liberal outrage over George Floyd paid a huge part. Being immersed in Trump's first term was also a motivator. Democratic unity was at a high point in 2020.

Biden lost after he was in office. A run for a second term is a referendum on the first. He lost for myriad reasons, but his rapidly progressing dementia, which was not as advanced in 2020, and his milquetoast handling of Netanyahu and genocide, were the biggest factors.

Biden won in 2020 because the incumbent was an abysmal failure. He lost in 2024 for the same reason. The fact that people chose the previous abysmal failure over him is a testament to how poorly he prosecuted Trump, both rhetorically and literally.

Biden was a failed President. He failed to serve his base who wanted Trump prosecuted and the genocide stopped or at least the US's financial support for it stopped. He failed on all of that and too much of his base stayed home in protest and disgust. That's why he lost.

by Anonymousreply 52September 25, 2025 7:31 PM

"Biden was incredibly unpopular at the end of his term, was perceived as weak and feeble, and polled worse against Trump than Kamala."

That's the way Biden was portrayed by Republican operatives and like lemmings, that's the way back-stabbing Democratic party "leaders" perceived him. The great Democratic Party brain trust are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

But I will say they sure know how to beg for money. My email inbox is full of desperate pleas from losers like Colin Allred and Sherrod Brown requesting I contribute to them. For what? Your new Escalade?

by Anonymousreply 53September 25, 2025 7:59 PM

[quote]Biden was incredibly unpopular at the end of his term, was perceived as weak and feeble, and polled worse against Trump than Kamala

[quote]That's the way Biden was portrayed by Republican operatives

That's what all of us saw with our own eyes, R53. For months and months before his disastrous debate -- weird non sequiturs, rambling speech, getting lost exiting a press conference. His decline was readily apparent to anyone who wasn't -- isn't -- a delusional sycophant..

Trump is a horrible president and an evil man, but we also deserved better than a doddering old man who didn't have the stamina to mount an effective offense.

by Anonymousreply 54September 25, 2025 8:06 PM

On his worst fucking, most senile day, Joe Biden was and would still be a better fucking president than Donald Trump, R54.

Why? Because unlike Trump, Biden didn't surround himself with cabinet members who are a bunch of psychotic, antisocial, backstabbing, narcissistic alcoholics and other miscreants whose only concern is how much money they can stuff in their pockets while they're in office. Biden had capable people running the government. FDR was half dead the last year of his life, but we managed to fight (and win) a two front world war because of the depth of FDR's cabinet members knowledge and experience.

You want to talk about delusional sycophants, R54? You think the likes of Pam Bondi and Pete Hegseth were hired for their scholastic achievements and prior accomplishments?

by Anonymousreply 55September 25, 2025 8:20 PM

This reflexive "how DARE you criticize Biden when we have Trump" (R55) is unhelpful.

Yes dear, Trump is the worst. WE KNOW.

by Anonymousreply 56September 25, 2025 8:26 PM

[quote]On his worst fucking, most senile day, Joe Biden was and would still be a better fucking president than Donald Trump, [R54].

I am so tired of this stupidity any time Biden is criticized. Blue MAGA at its finest. Don't criticize Dear Leader because The Bad Man is worse. It's the exact same script. Dystopian Mad Libs on the left and the right.

We all deserve so much better than this nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 57September 25, 2025 8:35 PM

[quote] That's what all of us saw with our own eyes, [R53].

Thank you! The idea that Biden's decline was some kind of psy op by Republicans or the media is ridiculous and insulting. We all fucking saw his decline with our own eyes and people were expressing concern for 2 years while being ignored and told to shut up and fall in line. If anything, it's the *lemmings* of the Democratic establishment who propped him up for too long, gaslighting the public by saying he was great behind closed doors and that there was "nothing to see here." Even after that fucking *meltdown* during the debate, they still tried to gaslight us with nonsense about Biden being sick and being jetlagged--despite him having been back in the country for ELEVEN DAYS before that debate. But I guess we all should have just pretended he did great and regaled him with praise like "You answered every question!"

by Anonymousreply 58September 25, 2025 8:40 PM

I suggested in the fall of 2023 that Biden should consider stepping aside and letting the Democrats have an open primary in 2024.

I was attacked by what felt like the entire thread and f&f'd into oblivion. I think the ban lasted close to a week. This was the same period when those ridiculous "Mighty Joe Biden" threads appeared daily. It was surreal.

by Anonymousreply 59September 25, 2025 8:54 PM

[quote] He lost for myriad reasons, but his rapidly progressing dementia, which was not as advanced in 2020, and his milquetoast handling of Netanyahu and genocide, were the biggest factors.

Gaza was not a big factor in the election loss. I personally think Biden made a massive mistake at the beginning by getting mostly Warren staffers to staff his White House. He was elected to be a moderate, but that's not how he governed.

by Anonymousreply 60September 25, 2025 9:55 PM

R56 and R57 are the reason Democrats lose elections.

Trump has been on the scene since 2015. A lot of Republicans couldn't stand him. Party officials ostracized them and effectively neutered them. They now sit on the outside looking in. Republicans held their noses, got behind their man and stood behind their man every damn step of the way. If they didn't support Trump 100%, they had the balls cut off by Republican party leadership.

Democrats need to do the same damn thing, unite behind their man, instead of looking for candidates who check off ALL the boxes on R56 and R57's various and assorted purity tests.

Today's Democrats find themselves in the same boat Germany's prewar Socials/Communists and Spain's Nationalists did: taking on water and sinking fast.

by Anonymousreply 61September 25, 2025 11:20 PM

They got behind Trump because he was winning, dumbass. Biden was projected to get crushed and take down all the down ballot candidates as well. Not even remotely the same.

by Anonymousreply 62September 25, 2025 11:35 PM

I just got my Kamala book and I will start it tonight. I am very glad I ordered it.

One bit of gossip I had from the Obama Administration: Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel and Michelle did NOT want Barack to choose Hillary for Secretary of State. And neither did Joe Biden.

by Anonymousreply 63September 25, 2025 11:59 PM

If Rahm Emanuel was against it, you know it's the right thing to do.

by Anonymousreply 64September 26, 2025 12:31 AM

OR - with Elon's help, the Republicans cheated well enough to get away with it AGAIN! None of the other reasons are relevant!

by Anonymousreply 65September 26, 2025 12:45 AM

The people who are bitching are the very ones who caused the problems. They sense a huge shift and feel like they might be losing their influence or power. Fuck them. And fuck that weird little fellow who is the new DNC Chair.

by Anonymousreply 66September 26, 2025 12:55 AM

[quote] One bit of gossip I had from the Obama Administration: Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel and Michelle did NOT want Barack to choose Hillary for Secretary of State. And neither did Joe Biden.

Obama had no choice.

He had to make a deal with her, to stop her from challenging him at the convention AND to get her endorsement.

It was Secretary of State Clinton, or nothing.

by Anonymousreply 67September 26, 2025 1:34 AM

More power to her, it's her life. She may as well get something out of it. Sell the movie rights and have Zoe Saldana star.

But I'm going to miss Cole.

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by Anonymousreply 68September 26, 2025 2:17 AM

R67, uh, no. It doesn't work that way. At least it didn't back then. He did not choose Hillary until well after the election. He asked her to come to Chicago. Joe was advising against it. He wanted John Kerry. Axelrod was always contemptuous of Hillary. Axe is not a nice person and honestly not very bright when it comes to political analysis. He thinks he is, but basically he is a PR Hack. And Rahm who was pushing and positioning himself as Chief of Staff, was also a hater. Ironically it was Bill Clinton who gave Rahm his main chance. Fact is, Obama could have fallen into the same trap Biden did with a tight overly protective inner circle who tried to isolate him. But he was no dummy. Anyway in the Transition period between the election and the Inauguration he was vetting and interviewing and meeting with potential cabinet officials. He felt, after serving on the Senate foreign relations committee, that after Bush, and with the full blown financial crisis with its international implications, he need someone of stature who could reassure our allies and who was respected. Hillary, his rival in the primary campaign filled the bill perfectly and she served him with distinction. They were very close. He admired and respected her. The deal they made, was his willingness to support her full throttle if she chose to run for President in the future. He was never going to support Joe. He felt Joe was going to retire after 8 years as VP.

by Anonymousreply 69September 26, 2025 2:54 AM

Actually, the book is good. Especially if you're a political junkie. Her style is conversational. She's very down to earth, not a dry, nerdy policy wonk.

by Anonymousreply 70September 26, 2025 3:44 PM

[quote] She's very down to earth, not a dry, nerdy policy wonk.

But I was told that Kamala was incoherent and wasn't relatable?!

by Anonymousreply 71September 26, 2025 4:17 PM

She’s over.

by Anonymousreply 72September 26, 2025 9:22 PM

Put Harris on The View. It would antagonize Trump to no end and would make for some good watching!

by Anonymousreply 73September 27, 2025 3:50 AM

I can smell her nappy pussy.

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by Anonymousreply 74October 3, 2025 4:54 AM

[Quote] But I was told that Kamala was incoherent and wasn't relatable?!

she just wasn't electable

by Anonymousreply 75October 3, 2025 4:59 PM

Compulsory voting in Australia is the way to go.

Of those enrolled, about 10% refuse to vote and are usually fined. Between 5-6% vote informally by purposefully or accidentally filling in the ballot incorrectly. And there is an unknown number of people who avoid being listed on the electoral roll.

Most of those who are over 40 and abstain from voting or who vote informally tend to be idiots. There can be a rare exception.

by Anonymousreply 76October 6, 2025 1:38 AM

Not exercising a right should not be punished.

by Anonymousreply 77October 6, 2025 2:29 AM

Michael Hardaway is he being paid by Rahm Emmanuel?

by Anonymousreply 78October 6, 2025 2:39 AM

This thread should have been titled "Democrats" Seethe at Harris Book says paid republican consultants.

by Anonymousreply 79October 6, 2025 2:42 AM

R79, Or Biden's Inner Circle Seethes.....

by Anonymousreply 80October 6, 2025 1:04 PM

[quote] HIs two dogs actually attacked secret service agents several times. His second dog alone attacked agents 24 times. One attack was so severe it left the agent with an open wound on his hand. But the Bidens didn't put the dogs down as they should have. Instead, they relocated them

I would have shot them.

by Anonymousreply 81October 6, 2025 2:45 PM
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