Tasteful Friends: Johnny Carson's atrium mansion can be yours for $110M
If you can tolerate living in a huge terrarium. The grounds and views are beautiful. I wonder what the kitchen looks like in a place like this. It just doesn't seem like a place to live in as much as a place to host events.
It was sold for $65.2M in 2019, but it doesn't appear that anything has been changed to the property to warrant a near 70% price increase.
I hope that cliff is stable. Apparently, it's no longer permissible to build so close. The listing agent touts that as a feature, not a liability. Surely, they're not charging so much because it's a rarity now?
[QUOTE]The dramatically increased price tag comes with a location that today’s money can’t buy, according to Cortazzo. The 1980s main home is situated closer to the bluff than modern permitting would ever allow today.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 72 | September 27, 2025 2:02 PM
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No thank you. It looks the house where a villain would live in during the 70s You can smell the coke and whores
by Anonymous | reply 1 | September 22, 2025 10:51 PM
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Anything that big and ostentatious is tacky.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | September 22, 2025 10:57 PM
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Only interior shots we got were of the atrium area. Where's the kitchen? What about the bedrooms?
If you want me to fork over $110 million, you've got to show me more than just the atrium.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | September 22, 2025 11:04 PM
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Melissa Rivers, now’s your chance to avenge your mother’s mistreatment.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | September 22, 2025 11:29 PM
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The views and grounds are truly stunning but that house looks like it belongs in an office park in Atlanta.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | September 22, 2025 11:36 PM
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It sure isn’t the one room glass house that Joan always made it out to be in her story.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | September 22, 2025 11:38 PM
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Yeah, r6, but it's close enough.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | September 23, 2025 12:04 AM
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I can't tell if the house is on a bluff overlooking the ocean or on the shore or is it both? It's impressive and I love the tennis courts (grass courts are tough to keep up!) but I'm not sure I'd want trees on the inside of my house and the one bedroom looks rather cramped.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | September 23, 2025 12:12 AM
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I would by it in a heartbeat. I would love to live in a conservatory.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | September 23, 2025 12:29 AM
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It's on the bluff, maybe 20 yards from the house. The second photo is taken from the house. It's not clear if there are stairs for beach access.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | September 23, 2025 12:39 AM
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[quote]It looks the house where a villain would live in during the 70s You can smell the coke and whores
You say that like it's a bad thing R1.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | September 23, 2025 1:03 AM
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I could not find stairs to the beaches even on Google Earth R10. Maybe they’re shared with one of the properties that join?
by Anonymous | reply 12 | September 23, 2025 1:04 AM
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Beautiful views and grounds and I like whatever the big room is that provides all that. The exterior does look like something out of an Atlanta office park.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | September 23, 2025 1:18 AM
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Those photos made me dizzy.
Still, I'd take it if someone gave it to me.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | September 23, 2025 1:24 AM
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It’s worth every penny just for the chance of bumping into Streisand around the neighborhood.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | September 23, 2025 1:28 AM
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Lindsay Wagner would swing from the top of the staircase to fight crimes.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | September 23, 2025 1:30 AM
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That should have read "20 yards from the *edge* not house at r10.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | September 23, 2025 1:32 AM
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Absolutely beautiful grounds and inside/outside living. Feels very early 80s (or late 70s?) and needs some minor updates of course.
But I really love it. Very unique and beautiful.
It's insane that anyone would have $110 million to buy a home.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | September 23, 2025 1:39 AM
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Here's a Town & Country article from when the house was listed in 2017. More pictures (including a bedroom) with furniture. And a waterfall.
None of the articles I've found say anything about beach access, but from the Post: It has "327 feet of ocean frontage." Dang, that's a lot. And none of the articles give sales prices consistent with the sales history information on Zillow or Realtor
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 19 | September 23, 2025 1:51 AM
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I love it but would never live on a crumbling cliff in California.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | September 23, 2025 2:41 AM
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You can see why a hick from Iowa would want a place like this.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | September 23, 2025 2:50 AM
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Elders from Southern California…
Remember when Malibu was nothing but a few restaurants, shops, & small cottages?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | September 23, 2025 3:02 AM
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Here's an aerial view. It's the triangular house. The property is huge. But the beach below really doesn’t look all that usable.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 23 | September 23, 2025 3:13 AM
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It might be high tide during that photo taken at r23. Poor housekeepers, trying to keep all that glass clean. It's an interesting house, party house for sure.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | September 23, 2025 3:36 AM
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I’m a child of the 1970s and I hate that house.
And who would wash all those windows inside and out each week?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | September 23, 2025 4:03 AM
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I love all the light and airiness. I’d live there happily.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | September 23, 2025 4:10 AM
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The pool area reminds me of the little plastic habitats they used to sell with turtles in the 60s and 70s, before they were outlawed.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | September 23, 2025 4:11 AM
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With a constantly rising ocean, undercutting the cliff, I give that house a maximum of 10 years before the cliff erodes and tumbles down, taking the house with it.
Ocean views are great, but unless a house is built on a very sturdy rock outcropping, I wouldn't feel safe there.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 28 | September 23, 2025 4:22 AM
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[quote]R1 It looks the house where a villain would live in during the 70s You can smell the coke and whores
It’s very [italic]Boogie Nights.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | September 23, 2025 4:29 AM
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Who knew - Carson was a damn hippie. That's like a walk back into the 1960's!
by Anonymous | reply 30 | September 23, 2025 4:40 AM
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I would buy it but then I’d have to put newspapers up in all the windows.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 31 | September 23, 2025 5:12 AM
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[quote] The pool area reminds me of the little plastic habitats they used to sell with turtles in the 60s and 70s, before they were outlawed
I had one!
It’s the two palm trees that make it look like that.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | September 23, 2025 7:49 AM
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it’s gorgeous, but too close to the bluff. it will be sliding down as global warming advances.
i can’t imagine what the maintenance cost is per month either. a 500k mortgage is big enough, but the maintenance could be almost as much! and property taxes!
i guess if you have a 300 billion dollar fortune, it’s all very affordable, even if it’s only habitable for another decade.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | September 23, 2025 7:57 AM
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Amazing location (for now), but the house does have conference center look to it.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | September 23, 2025 12:41 PM
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It's STUNNING. I mean... wow!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 36 | September 23, 2025 1:04 PM
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Keeping that place clean looks like it would be a nightmare.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | September 23, 2025 2:36 PM
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I would fuck fat cute if he took me there - and there were snacks.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | September 23, 2025 3:28 PM
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“And the answer is: Here today and gone tomorrow.”
“What’s the name of Carson’s house?”
by Anonymous | reply 39 | September 23, 2025 4:31 PM
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All the vegetation is the only thing stopping the ocean from taking a few dozen more feet.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | September 23, 2025 4:46 PM
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Could be fun as a day camp with multilevel environments, play areas, adventure, in all the tall spaces. It needs a snack bar.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | September 23, 2025 5:18 PM
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[quote]Keeping that place clean looks like it would be a nightmare.
Anyone who would have the money to purchase that house would have a team of cleaners, gardeners, chefs and assorted assistants to do everything R37.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | September 24, 2025 6:07 AM
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[Quote]And who would wash all those windows inside and out each week?
Yes, I'm sure Johnny Carson was washing his own windows.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | September 24, 2025 6:44 AM
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[QUOTE]And who would wash all those windows inside and out each week?
Why Joanna, of course, all those times he woke her up in a blind drunk rages in the middle of the night and ordered her to CLEAN!
by Anonymous | reply 45 | September 24, 2025 8:39 AM
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Shit's gonna fall off that cliff. There goes your $100 million motherfucker! Whoaaa!
by Anonymous | reply 46 | September 24, 2025 8:41 AM
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5 bedrooms…..ELEVEN bathrooms?!
by Anonymous | reply 47 | September 24, 2025 10:39 AM
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That price will likely come way down before that place sells.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | September 24, 2025 11:18 AM
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R5- Exactly. It looks like the interior of an upscale medical building. It does not look like a private house. I want the interior of my house to look like a home, not like a medical building.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | September 24, 2025 12:19 PM
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One can refresh a Mediterranean villa, an English Tudor, a faux French chateau. I dont know how this can look anything but dated and of its era. 1980 university campus art gallery, vacation home built by a modern, minor mid-eastern prince, or a big Hollywood star, avish community building for a Lutheran church in a wealthy suburb, James Bond Set.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | September 24, 2025 12:29 PM
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There are few houses after 1935 that I could contemplate living in. This is perhaps the only one from one lifetime (b. 1960s) I might include in the list. The setting and views are extraordinary, and the house is...curious, but it seems a house that would be a pleasure to live in for a few years at least -- to collect the furniture and art that fit the house and setting (though not the date, 1980.)
The photos are insufficient, but the lushness of the greenery and the views are quite special. Most Malibu houses I fail to see any appeal at all in the architecture or the location.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | September 24, 2025 10:33 PM
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The sound of the waves crashing against the cliffs would annoy me.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | September 24, 2025 10:51 PM
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[quote] 5 bedrooms…..ELEVEN bathrooms?!
R47 Lots of johnnies for Johnny.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | September 25, 2025 6:07 AM
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The pool house looks massive. Of course in a house for entertaining, one has many bathrooms.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | September 25, 2025 10:17 PM
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[quote] Of course in a house for entertaining, one has many bathrooms.
Which is an odd thing because by all accounts that I've read, Carson was an incorrigible recluse when he wasn't in front of a TV camera performing as a talk show host.
Ed McMahon, Carson's ex-wives, Freddie DeCordova all to a person said Carson was aloof and distant and wanted his alone time. That's one of the things that caused his marriages to break up, besides his drinking.
The thought of him wanting that house to "entertain" strikes me as counter to all of that.
Maybe he had a bathroom fetish.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | September 25, 2025 10:40 PM
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True r56. Carson was a miserable alcoholic who liked to be alone much of the time. He was not a warm or friendly person in his private life.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | September 25, 2025 11:06 PM
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He would've been 100 years old this year.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | September 25, 2025 11:06 PM
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[Quote] There are few houses after 1935 that I could contemplate living in.
Smell Miss r52 already
by Anonymous | reply 59 | September 25, 2025 11:15 PM
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R56 If he was married at any time that he lived there, it may have been his wife or wives who were doing the entertaining.
I just finished reading a biography of agent extraordinaire Sue Mengers and learned how important socializing at people’s homes is at the upper echelons of the entertainment industry. I think Carson would have never played that game unless he had a wife who did it for him.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | September 25, 2025 11:39 PM
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[QUOTE]The thought of him wanting that house to "entertain" strikes me as counter to all of that.
Keep in mind this is a home/property he could easily and effectively disappear within and keep his whereabouts unknown back then when people didn't carry cell phones.
Look at the aerial photo at r23. He could easily decamp to the tennis pavillion guest house. At first, I couldn't spot it with its 2 bedrooms because it's so far away.
Carson engineered his surroundings.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | September 26, 2025 8:19 AM
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Sue Mengers was a legend in her own mind.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | September 26, 2025 5:44 PM
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If I had the money I'd fill it with monkeys and ocelots and lock the door behind me before I drove away forever.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | September 26, 2025 5:48 PM
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Is this the house where Barbara Walters interviewed him?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 64 | September 26, 2025 5:50 PM
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If you read Henry Bushkin's book on Johnny you'll know why he had so many bathrooms in his house. It was because he was full of shit.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | September 26, 2025 7:39 PM
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Walters has such a hard on for Carson in that interview. Girl sure loved power and status and it showed.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | September 26, 2025 10:06 PM
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Terrarium is the perfect description for the white box/glass/no curtains look.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | September 27, 2025 7:09 AM
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If he was a closed-off man, the bright, lush cheery home could’ve have been a salve for him. He did quit drinking and mentioned that with guest Jonathan Winters who was also a heavy drinker.
I liked Johnny—I liked his guests and I liked how he was with them. His show brought me comfort for some reason. His interest in magic and the drums also endeared him towards me.
Too bad he smoked so much…
by Anonymous | reply 69 | September 27, 2025 7:47 AM
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We made terrariums as an arts and crafts project in 5th grade in the 70s. We used gallon wine jugs, but I can't remember how we got the plants in. That's what made me think terrarium the moment I saw the first interior pictures. I wonder if it gets really humid in there especially with a running waterfall.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | September 27, 2025 8:01 AM
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Those approaching ocean waves behind Carson and Walters at r64 scare me!
Anyway, that interview makes me like Carson. He's a man in at two simultaneously happening moments- the apex of his popularity and career power while also going through a marital divorce.
And now that I remember it, that divorce really was getting headlines which is probably why he agreed to be interviewed by Walters.
Carson manages to come across as honest and real by both reserving the truly personal but revealing some vulnerabilities.
Wayne Newton bragged that he physically threatened Carson if he didn't stop ridiculing him during his monologues and Carson. According to Newton's version of it, they were business competitors in a Las Vegas venture and that's why Carson was picking on him.
I've never seen anything about Carson confirming or denying Newton's story.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | September 27, 2025 1:59 PM
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^ and Carson backed down, I meant to write at the end of the Newton bragging sentence.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | September 27, 2025 2:02 PM
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