Charity cuts ties with Sarah Ferguson over message to Jeffrey Epstein

Good. Grifter slag.

Give me a break. So anyone who ever knew him is now persona non grata?

I just hope her children don't suffer for the sins of their parents.

[quote] So anyone who ever knew him is now persona non grata?

No, just his “supreme friends”

Epstein was only able to do what he did with people like Fergie running cover for him.

This woman is nuts and was a big mistake for the RF. She just won't go away despite being divorced for almost thirty years.

The two daughters seem okay, considering how awful their parents are.

[quote] Give me a break. So anyone who ever knew him is now persona non grata?

No, just someone who was a patron of children's charities and continued the relationship after he was convicted of sex trafficking of minors. Someone who cut ties with him publicly to save her fat ass and then apologized to him and said she didn't mean it.

She's a pretty terrible person. I used to like her, but she's made so many ethical lapses over the years. She was a terrible choice to be a duchess--were I Charles, I would remove her title.

[quote]R3 I just hope her children don't suffer for the sins of their parents.

They probably already suffered via Epstein molestation in the home.

When she first came on the scene back in the 1980s, the media painted her as a fun-loving, down-to-earth type who was madly in love with her handsome sailor, Andrew. Those were the days. Princess Diana was viewed negatively in comparison to her new sister-in-law.

She always seems awkward and ungainly to me, but the media described her as a natural beauty. When she started screwing up, they went after her like predators to their prey, and once they got their hooks in her, they never let go. It was relentless, and I did feel sorry for her for a while.

In hindsight, she was an awful person with terrible judgment and poor taste. The kids must have been raised by nannies.

I laughed out loud during that miniseries with Michael Sheen when staff carrying Andrew’s breakfast tray upstairs is stopped by Fergie so she could pick out a quick snack.

You could tell the actress was having a ball.

Like R10 says she was popular in America, seen as less formal and more down to earth. The first negative press she got was for leaving newborn Beatrice to go on a royal tour with Andy. Even the Brits, not known for sentimentality about children, said it was extraordinary, and that she was not a 'committed' mother. Fergie later said she wanted to bring the baby with her but Andy refused. She said he needed attention after Andy had to look at her fat ugly self for nine months. No doubt that was when Andy started calling her the cow and never stopped. Lovely couple. She's been following Andy's lead and eating his tossed scraps from the table ever since.

R12, that sounds pitiful and completely true given what we know now.

What sad people.

Andrew made fun of her weight? Well, she wasn't the thinnest bride when he married her. And then he blew up in size himself.

Fun Fact:

She's godmother to the actor Harry Haddon-Paton who played Bertie Pelham (Marquis of Hexham) in Downton Abby and was also in The Crown.

Her doppelganger in "The Windsors" was hysterical.

She wore hideously mismatched clothes, drove a shitbox car that farted blue smoke, lived in something called a bed-sit, and used the hours between her benefits hearings to flog a juice machine on QVC. She always lusted after that idiot Andy, though, despite his constant physical abuse of the servants - "Oh, get up, Bates! It's just a flesh wound!"

"Daddy, you're missing Christmas joy.

Pretending to be British trade envoy.

You clocked up loads of air miles.

You used to hang around with a paedophile!

Daddy, buy us stuff for Christmas!

Or even just some cash for Christmas!

Bring us festive cheer,

'cause you have no idea what shoes cost over here!"

she isn't very bright, either >eyeroll<

Her toes are delish.

Oh come on, it was 2011. He lent her money.

Sticking with Sarah, Duchess of York.

I love seeing this slag publicly shamed.

…left selling feet pics on OF

Every new royal fiancee is regarded as a 'breath of fresh air' and 'just what the royal family needed,' this goes as least as far back as at least the Queen Mum (Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon).

I feel sorry for her. She is a retard and a glutton, but she has never said a single word against the royals. She is loyal to andrew, which she should be. She didn’t know who the fuck Epstein was. She just needed some money from some rich business guy.

[quote]Give me a break. So anyone who ever knew him is now persona non grata?

No, it's just that someone who is doing work for a children's charity...can't be running around talking about her best friend the child rapist. You just can't.

I will say this woman has taken a lot of hits in her life and keeps on keeping on. When Sarah was just a young teenager her mother abandoned the family, moved to Argentina, and was decapitated in an car accident at 61. Her father left most of the caretaking of Sarah and her sister to others as he was busy with polo and having 3 more kids with his new wife.

Andrew and Sarah separate but Sarah's supposedly the slag for not knowing that everything she does henceforth will be photographed. She did not even seem to enjoy getting her toes sucked.

Sarah agrees to a paltry sum in the divorce, a monetary sacrifice that will come back to haunt her, as we shall see. This is also why Andrew feels some guilt and continues to feed, house and abuse her, the other reason being he can't get any woman to fuck him unless he pays for it or they are underage and sex trafficked.

Trying to help her ex, who is failing in his sham position as Trade Envoy, Sarah is caught in a sting selling access to Andrew, as if this was her idea, although it might have been, even dumb people have initiative now and then. Maybe Andrew had no idea this was going on, and Sarah just wanted some pocket money for the snacks Andrew denied her.

Recently her emails to Epstein have been uncovered to reveal a truly sickening, groveling apology to plead that she only repudiated her supreme friend/convicted sex trafficker because she was FORCED to, being a public advocate of children, including TEEN rights.

Naturally this valuable, true friendship was due to a loan from Epstein, and I'm the first one to say I like people who lend me money. Unfortunately Sarah takes money from all the wrong people.

She’s been publicly shamed since the 90s @R21

They did that breath of fresh air for skankle and we saw how that ended

Yes, R27, and I’ve been enjoying it since the 90s.

Why would a reputable charity have ties to her in teh first place? Obviously very messy.

I don't understand why these charities are doing this now. This isn't fresh news. It's a well known fact that Epstein gave Fergie money to pay off her debt & that she never cut ties with Epstein. Neither did Andrew.

" Good. Grifter slag."

A perfect description of her. She also looks as if she never bathes.

[quote]Sarah agrees to a paltry sum in the divorce, a monetary sacrifice that will come back to haunt her, as we shall see. This is also why Andrew feels some guilt and continues to feed, house and abuse her, the other reason being he can't get any woman to fuck him unless he pays for it or they are underage and sex trafficked.

She was an idiot for asking for nothing at all in her divorce. I think she only asked for the Queen's friendship. What a joke. The Queen was no one's friend. Fergie pathetically thought the royals would take care of her, even though she's seen the royals treat so many people, including her own father badly. The royals have ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS only cared about themselves. Period. Full stop.

R32- Yes, but God knows what all dirt the RF had on her. Maybe that is why she didn't ask for more, idk.

She was dismissed as the spokesperson for UK hospice for similar reasons relating to Jimmy Savile.

A piece of interesting lore.

This charity used to have its headquarters at the top of one world trade. Sarah was actually in a cab in manhattan on her way to a meeting at the tower when the first plane hit. Had she been early, she would have been a victim of the attacks, as everyone above the impact zone died.

Sarah and the mother yikes they look the same age

Surely a beggar, but undoubtedly, she wasn’t raping children.

Let’s shift the focus back on to those who were & continue to do so.

Wasn't she caught on camera selling access to Andrew? Prince Phillip loathed her.

Here's a thread about the DM exclusive. The language in her letter to Epstein is really, really awful and stomach turning. Treacly suck up.

R39- That is stomach churning. Makes one wonder just how young Andrew really liked little girls. Or boys.

I will always love her, though, for providing Katy Wix with the funniest recurring bit on "The Windsors," where she always shows up as Fergie in front of Eugenie and Beatrice at exactly the wrong moment: "Hullo, guhls..."

Leave Sarah alone. It was 2011. She was trying to survive when she accepted the money and wrote the thank you notes. She was trying to keep her head above water during challenging times. I realize that Sarah is is no longer technically royal, but she's royal adjacent with patronages and all the obligations that come with the association. And her former husband was a deadbeat. Sarah hustles despite it all.

The royal family frowns on its members working, which is why they all have to do so much work for charity. But these "adjacent royals" are basically thrown to the wolves to survive. They can't work, but they are still expected to make a living, make appearances, dress well and not ask the king for money. It's a goddamn scrutinizing life with no real assets upon which to draw. I know that Sarah has screwed up in the past, but I'm only offering another perspective on this expensive lifestyle with no foundation unless you have a direct line to the throne with a nonstop flow of money from the taxpayers.

Focus on Trump and his association with Epstein.

Sarah "keeps going" because she's a grifter and she needs CASH. I don't know what she does with her money, but she never has enough.

She makes MeAgain Markle look like a goddamn singing nun by comparison.

[quote]Sarah agrees to a paltry sum in the divorce, a monetary sacrifice that will come back to haunt her, as we shall see. This is also why Andrew feels some guilt and continues to feed, house and abuse her, the other reason being he can't get any woman to fuck him unless he pays for it or they are underage and sex trafficked.

Andrew doesn't feel guilt regarding anything. He's truly unable to feel guilt. If he did, he'd stay at home and not show his face (for the sake of his daughters, if nothing else). But he has NO SHAME and loves to appear with the royals on holidays & any chance they allow him to appear with them.

[quote] Trying to help her ex, who is failing in his sham position as Trade Envoy, Sarah is caught in a sting selling access to Andrew, as if this was her idea, although it might have been, even dumb people have initiative now and then. Maybe Andrew had no idea this was going on, and Sarah just wanted some pocket money for the snacks Andrew denied her.

Oh puh-leaze. Do not be so naive. 1. I doubt that Fergie was smart enough to come up with that on her own. 2. In order to sell access to Andrew, she had to have his cooperation. He's a piece of shit who only cares about himself. He wouldn't give 2 minutes of his time to meet someone she asked him to talk with. Selling access to himself was all his plan. He was just doing what other members of the royal family have been doing for years. The entire family are grifters. Sophie Rhys Jones was caught doing the same thing right after her marriage. She tried to sell access to the Queen. I think most of the Queen's children sold access to the Queen. How else would her 3 other children support themselves? Anne lives on a fabulously, grand estate & so does Edward. The Queen gifted the home to Anne, but it costs probably a minimum of £300, 000 a year for just maintenance fees (not including homeowner's insurance). A new roof on her mansion would cost £200,000.

In order to sell access to the Queen, you at least have to have some cooperation from her. In order to understand this fully, you have to realize that in this family, they don't even call themselves up and talk to each other. Unless it's a life or death emergency, If Charles wanted to talk with his mother, he (or his personal secretary) would have to call the Queen's personal secretary and schedule an appointment, in advance for the phone call.

That's just for a phone call. It's even more involved for a personal meeting.

They could creep into her room at night through a window, like that intruder did.

There’s always a way.

Wish she had cut all ties to Epstein, but of course she is FAR from being the one in that family who should've done that first and foremost.

As for the grifting and selling access, bitches please. Courtiers and royals and minor royals have all been selling access to royalty for a thousand years, no more like 2000 years, and no, nobody needs to sit home and sob about that. It's the whole damn point of being close to royalty, selling access and exchanging favors and whispering in ears and the whole damn thing. Spare me the crocodile tears that Fergie dared to get in on an act that has been going on forever.

[quote]She was an idiot for asking for nothing at all in her divorce.

She was loyal to the royal family and presumably felt guilty about the poolside photos.

The 60 Minutes Australia interview she did when her book came out was fun. She walks out of the interview at least twice and they show every moment of her extreme dudgeon. But in the end flogging the book is why she's there, so she returns. It's on YouTube.

I love her gleeful air at a funereal event!

what was that ridiculous game they all played on TV? Wasn't Fergie the ringleader?

At one time Americans loved fatty Fergie. she co-hosted with Regis Philbin a few times and acted all shocked and aghast about BARENAKEDLADIES appearing the next day.

Regis had to reassure her it was just the name of a band and that no naked ladies would disgrace her presence.

*snort*

She's been a joke since day one. A complete shitshow. The monarchists here bash Diana left and right but Fergie was 100X more embarrassing to the RF.

She's always been a mess.

A Royal Knockout

The Duchess of Pork

She's always been a wacko.

R53 "The Windsors" made repeated references to that special nearly bringing down the monarchy. Was it really THAT influential?

Sarah has justified her apology to Epstein. It was for the safety of her children. She said that after she labeled him a pedophile Epstein called her and in a "Hannibal Lector" voice said he would ruin her and her family.

As if Andy hadn't already accomplished that.

Charles or William won't touch her unless she does something outrageously egregious, she knows too much and she's crazy enough to go rogue if pushed enough.

What could she know about William? He was 11 when she divorced Andrew.

And what could she know about Charles that wasn't already divulged a million times by now? She only had close access to him for a few years during his marriage to Diana. I can't imagine there are any skeletons left in that closet. What's she going to threaten him with? Revealing his extra-marital affair with Mrs. Parker-Bowles? I think that might fall flat since she's called Queen Camilla now.

I hope Sarah survives this go-round.

I want to read a news story that Sarah Ferguson broke into Balmoral and has been squatting there during the off season.

Vulgar woman.

R60: Survives what? She will never stop yammering and scamming. There's no need to worry about her.

What about the people who slept with Epstein's slaves? The ones who visited the island?

Cancel Fergie and Andrew, but name and shame who those women had to sleep with.

Fergie?

Who would have guessed that all oxen are gelded male bulls?

R32, she got at least $3 million in the divorce. There was nothing else to get. She could only ask for a settlement based on what Andrew had.

Doesn't she have melanoma?

Stretchy pants.

R8 she has no title for Charles to remove. She may call herself "The Duchess of York" but she's not. "The Duchess of York" is the wife of The Duke of York, which she hasn't been since 1986.

She's styled as "Sarah, Duchess of York" as the ex-wife or widow of The Duke of York.

It's a clumsy wording but has always been in use in the British aristocracy because, not being constrained by middle class values and always on the lookout for someone to produce an heir with, Dukes, Marquesses, Earls etc have never had a problem with divorcing. Thus when they die they will often have a number of ex-wives plus widow who unless they remarry have to be called something other than "The Duchess of Wherever", hence, "Sharon, Duchess of Wolverhampton" or whatever.

If Andrew were to remarry today (I know, unlikely) his new nineteen year old wife Tracee would be "The Duchess of York".

The only possible change for Fergie would be if King Charles did strip Andrew of his ducal title - I'm not sure what they'd call her then. But for now, as for the past thirty years, she clings on to the York name for all it's worth. It's all that she has, sadly.

^^^ correcting myself - the Yorks divorced in 1996, not 1986.

Leave Sarah, Duchess of York alone.

I like her.

Yes, we know, R71 - you might want to change the wording every time you post instead of just copy/paste.

She's an old whore dear.

She was a beautiful bride and her dress was prettier than Diana’s.

They were both ghastly

R59, i am sure there are plenty of skeletons even if maybe not extremely exciting. Sarah has been divorced for years but remains close to Andrew (and her daughters). Pretty sure she is well informed, specially now Andrew surely feels like he has been a victim of great injustice for being moved to a “cottage “!

Wait. Was Andrew finally heaved out of his mansion?

R76 certainly . There's a reason Andy let her live rent free above his garage for 30 years.

R59, she knows too much about alot of the royal family shenanigans to be dangerous, not specifically about William. Andrew, definitely.

[quote]As for the grifting and selling access, bitches please. Courtiers and royals and minor royals have all been selling access to royalty for a thousand years, no more like 2000 years, and no, nobody needs to sit home and sob about that. It's the whole damn point of being close to royalty, selling access and exchanging favors and whispering in ears and the whole damn thing. Spare me the crocodile tears that Fergie dared to get in on an act that has been going on forever.

The ROYALS are the ones who sell access. They use their courtiers to do the dirty work. The courtiers of course, get in on the act too. Andrew has used Fergie to be his go between for years. That's why he kept her around all these years.

Charles had a grifter on the public payroll named Michael Fawcett. For many years Charles had him privately sell really expensive gifts that were given to the royals during state visits (and that the royals are forbidden from selling). An antique's dealer revealed to a tabloid reporter what was going on. It was a scandal, charles denied it all and Fawcett took the entire blame. And then Charles REFUSED to get rid of him. Of course because he was doing all the dirty work for Charles.

Finally after lots & lots of bad press, Charles put him on his private payroll (and even had the nerve to give him some kind of award/honour).

A few years later Fawcett (Charles) was caught selling knighthoods. Fawcett "supposedly" resigned, but I guarantee you he's probably still grifting for charles. Or maybe Charles inherited the Queen's personal grifter when she died. The Queen & Prince Phillip did this too.

Inheriting 1.8 Billion - taxfree, from his mother just isn't enough for Chuckles. William is up to the same thing. All the royals do it. They've been doing it for years. The entire family has done this for centuries. The family regularly rents out the palaces to their rich friends. The beckhams spilled the beans. When a reporter asked a courtier if the royals have done this before, he couldn't deny it. He did say that no money was exchanged .

Maybe that's the truth. But why would Prince Andrew be hosting a little girl's birthday party? What is the relationship between Prince Andrew and Harper Beckham? Who even knew Andrew was friends with the Beckhams? And their little daughter?

Why would the beckhams have Prince Andrew host their little girl's birthday party?

Does Prince Andrew regularly throw parties for other little girls?

He has 2 of his own daughters and he's throwing birthday parties for someone else's little girl????

R80 you’ve really given this a lot of thought haven’t you.

R79 it's not easy to take seriously any input from someone who thinks that "alot" is a word.

R80 is a lunatic.