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Meet the support group for gender-critical gay men: ‘We gather in secret’

Times “A park, a police car, and a bunch of gays — this feels familiar!”

So quips Alan, a 45-year-old trainer for a software company, to laughter from the group of men he is spending the afternoon with. Members of a new social network for gay men in Scotland, they are gathered in the greenery of Gayfield Square in Edinburgh on a drizzly Saturday, for a photoshoot frequently to a soundtrack of sirens, wailing to and from the nearby police station.

We have spent the last hour or so in the backroom of a bar, hired for one of the group’s regular social events. This is the Scotland chapter of Human Gay Male (HGM), a UK-wide network founded in London 18 months ago by James Roberts.

Roberts, 46, formerly organised networking and social events for gay professionals while also volunteering with charities including Stonewall. Over the past decade, he has grown steadily disquieted as these organisations added the “T” for transgender to their formerly LGB-only agendas, alienating many gay men in the process.

A generational split has since formed. Now, young gay men who “want to be part of the battle” that older gay men experienced “are being told you have to fight for this new team: Team LGBTQ”, Roberts explains, when I speak to him before the Scotland meet-up.

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by Anonymousreply 38September 24, 2025 1:41 AM

Meet you fuckers at CC Bloom’s afterward?

by Anonymousreply 1September 22, 2025 9:13 AM

I'm in!

by Anonymousreply 2September 22, 2025 9:19 AM

This is what happens when independent thought comes with a jail sentence. Scotland is a woke hellhole.

by Anonymousreply 3September 22, 2025 10:03 AM

I support Human Gay Male and I don't hate trans people.

If trans people can have social groups for themselves, I don't see why gay men, lesbians and bisexual people can't have their own groups.

by Anonymousreply 4September 22, 2025 10:09 AM

Unfortunately inclusion has been so fetishized that anything exclusively anything is seen as bigotry, including anll gay, all male or all female spaces . Making our community inclusive is one thing, but turning it into the land of broken toys in another.

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by Anonymousreply 5September 22, 2025 10:18 AM

Is it really so bad that it needs a "support group"?

How many UK gay men can honestly say they've been propositioned by a trans man for sex? And, of those, how many of the trans men got rude, violent or insulting when rejected?

by Anonymousreply 6September 22, 2025 10:25 AM

R6 "Straight women really don’t understand gay sexuality..."

by Anonymousreply 7September 22, 2025 10:46 AM

We need this in the US.

by Anonymousreply 8September 22, 2025 10:54 AM

OP: What are 'gender-critical men'?

by Anonymousreply 9September 22, 2025 4:06 PM

R9 Men that know that men don't have vaginas. Are you being intentionally obtuse?

by Anonymousreply 10September 22, 2025 4:09 PM

OP there is BOGO on shells at Amo Hut.

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by Anonymousreply 11September 22, 2025 4:10 PM

I feel like anyone who wants to have a private group based on specific demographics should be allowed to. You don’t see gay men forcing themselves into lesbian spaces, and look how much of our community segregates based on attractiveness. I once went to a gay men’s book group with one woman who said she identified as male and it was weird and awkward. I can’t even imagine women showing up to a sex party like that. I’d leave.

by Anonymousreply 12September 22, 2025 6:48 PM

Of course it would be from a Murdoch-owned paper.

by Anonymousreply 13September 22, 2025 8:08 PM

I think gay men are tired of getting their identity and spaces co-opted by bronies, trans, and every other misfit toy who claims to be gay because they recognized another man as attractive. It’s not that they don’t have the right to be who they are, they don’t have a right to require everyone to include them in everything because they decided to be gay this month.

by Anonymousreply 14September 22, 2025 9:13 PM

Transphobic trolling thread #5,299,503

by Anonymousreply 15September 22, 2025 11:06 PM

Why isn't this a thing in the US? The gender-critical movement is much more advanced in the UK.

by Anonymousreply 16September 22, 2025 11:18 PM

Where is the group for knobby-headed bald men?

Because that guy in OP’s picture definitely needs his own club.

And a bag over his head.

by Anonymousreply 17September 22, 2025 11:41 PM

Paper or plastic? ^

by Anonymousreply 18September 22, 2025 11:45 PM

R15, every opinion that does not meet your approval does not constitute trolling.

by Anonymousreply 19September 22, 2025 11:50 PM

This is not a gay kickball group that happens to have zero trans people, this is a group formed explicitly to exclude trans people. I'm guessing the people in this group are not very fun to be around.

by Anonymousreply 20September 23, 2025 12:08 AM

My own experience is that trans people tend to be a little humorless, maybe because they're too busy looking for microaggressions. This group is probably more fun without them.

If this were a kickball group formed explicitly to exclude trans people, or black people, yes, I'd be outraged. But it's not. It's basically a support group, and support groups are traditionally designed for people who share the same experience. Gay men and trans men do not share the same experience.

by Anonymousreply 21September 23, 2025 12:28 AM

It's a support group for 50+ gays who don't like trans people. Fun!

by Anonymousreply 22September 23, 2025 12:32 AM

R22 doesn't like gay men who prefer to be around other gay men. Adorable!

by Anonymousreply 23September 23, 2025 12:36 AM

R22 showcasing the anti-gay animus so common among trans sympathizers.

by Anonymousreply 24September 23, 2025 12:57 AM

I would not insist a trans group accept me. However, trans folk can sense a group without a trans person from 500 miles away. A beacon is sent out to the trans borg to find it and join it.

by Anonymousreply 25September 23, 2025 2:08 AM

The LBGTQIA community exists for solely for trans people now. They should remake this Twilight Zonr episode but call it To Serve Trans. Only in this episode, our community gets taken over and cannibalized for the exclusive benefit on one demographic.

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by Anonymousreply 26September 23, 2025 2:48 AM

The LBGTQIA community exists for solely for trans people now. They should remake this Twilight Zone episode but call it “To Serve Trans”. Only in this episode, our community gets taken over and cannibalized for the exclusive benefit of one demographic.

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by Anonymousreply 27September 23, 2025 2:56 AM

R20 It's a group for men, the people it excludes are women. I bet most women wouldn't give a shit, sorry if some mentally ill ones do.

by Anonymousreply 28September 23, 2025 3:00 AM

Resist!

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by Anonymousreply 29September 23, 2025 4:17 AM

So they don't want this chick at their parties? What assholes!

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by Anonymousreply 30September 23, 2025 2:08 PM

And one of the "men" in that reddit sub is named DaddyWantYourAsshole. That's fucking ridiculous and offensive. Just fuck off. No shit men don't want these yaoi fetishists in their groups. The only bad thing is that they actually have to apologize for it.

by Anonymousreply 31September 23, 2025 2:14 PM

My pussy stinks!

by Anonymousreply 32September 23, 2025 2:19 PM

I've read that post at R30 before and I thought then and still do that girl's "queer friend" set her up. I feel bad that it upset her so much but let's be real, who wants a woman at an orgy?

Some of you will think I'm cold-blooded but I think what's really cruel is to lead young people on like this.

by Anonymousreply 33September 23, 2025 4:26 PM

I agree R33. It was the only way he could show her that she wasn't a gay man, period.

by Anonymousreply 34September 23, 2025 7:19 PM

These people are the biggest drama queens in history.

by Anonymousreply 35September 23, 2025 7:38 PM

What’s gender-critical?

by Anonymousreply 36September 23, 2025 8:42 PM

If your son asked you for a pink tutu to frolic about would you scold him or get it because it's just a dress and thinking your personality defines your sex is stupid. The latter is being gender-critical.

by Anonymousreply 37September 23, 2025 9:05 PM

The latter along with saying, "you can wear whatever you want, you don't have to define your whole life by it. When you grow up, maybe you'll want to wear pants instead. Either way, you're still a male, there's no one way to do it." Whereas non gender critical people think that if you are a boy who likes pink, plays with dolls, and wears mom's old clothes, you are now a girl!

by Anonymousreply 38September 24, 2025 1:41 AM
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