Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is gearing up for presidential run

Love her. About time to have somebody FEARLESS running.

Good Lord, no.

She's not even very popular in her own district going by vote totals.

Her achievements so far are.....what?

She’ll never be the candidate.

I am impressed by her growth, but way too soon for that.

Maybe the greens will have a chance this time. They could run on ending carbon burning. I was thinking today while surrounded by traffic and aero planes, how the thing that is going to get humanity out of its malaise is climate change. You may not think it is a problem or even real but that isn’t going to save you. We are in for a horror show of a future. I’m so glad I’m old.

Not the right time, AOC.

The next face of perpetual victimhood.

Look for her to run every four years, get creamed in the primary every time, and then spend three years begging for coin because she was “robbed.”

I think she can win. The voters want somebody young and exciting. She’s learned and pivoted away from a lot of the extra-woke stuff.

Sorry, but no women need apply.

Yeah, but SHOULD she win?

Does she have the chops to manage an agenda through a hostile Congress? Can she project strength and diplomatic judgment on the world stage? Could she resolve a 3am crisis in the Situation Room? Could she heal a nation more divided than during its own civil war?

There’s a shitload more to being president than simply having a cute message on the campaign trail.

[quote]There’s a shitload more to being president than simply having a cute message on the campaign trail.

No, there’s not.

“Make America Great Again!”

“Build The Wall!”

She's under the delusion that there is going to be an election in 2028. Silly her.

Everybody seemed to unofficially launch their campaigns this week. Pete B., Chris Murphy, Josh Shapiro and Gavin Newsom have been extremely active on social media the past few days.

Yes. By all means let’s keep running people who have no chance to win.

Does anyone actually believe that disillusioned Trump voters will cross party lines to vote for her? How many mainstream Republicans will she get.

Let’s save time and just throw in the white flag now.

These nitwits need to ditch the fucking egos and rally around someone who really can’t cross the aisle.

[quote] And she has major support in the party.

The party that doesn't know how to win.

Socialists are children who can't differentiate between Utopia and real life. They're really naive about what people will and will not tolerate that's being imposed by the state, which in their views should be just about everything. She's a good person who's filled with impossible ideas.

AOC's policies--yes. But her--no. I like her and would want her to be president or Senate majority leader, but the country will not vote for a liberal woman, at least not now unfortunately. And I want a Democratic winner. We cannot lose this time.

I’d vote blue no matter who, except for this person. If the GOP advanced a moderate candidate, a non-felon under 80, I’d probably switch parties. And I’d never admit it to anyone. Sorry.

She's already a lightning rod for every deliberate misconception and exaggeration they can throw at her. Let her spend more time where she is. She's effective thete. Maybe in ten years.

I also really like her, and have been impressed by her recent leadership in a rudderless party. However, there is no way she will win a national election. Not in 2028 at least (will leave future predictions open).

She would kill it in NY, CA, the northeast and other blue areas, but gain nothing in red state or areas. She's simply been branded as too leftist/liberal, and a "Squad" founder. Sheds be creamed in the Electoral College.

It will have to be a centrist Dem this time. Male or female, doesn't matter, but must be very moderate/centrist. Think Clinton in '92, anti-crime, pro-police, pro-growth.

R15 is right. We really have to build our bench.

[quote]Does anyone actually believe that disillusioned Trump voters will cross party lines to vote for her? How many mainstream Republicans will she get.

Many in her district voted for both Trump and her.

[quote]It will have to be a centrist Dem this time. Male or female, doesn't matter, but must be very moderate/centrist. Think Clinton in '92, anti-crime, pro-police, pro-growth.

That’s Shapiro. Very popular Governor of a swing state.

This bitch.

As it stands now, SC and Super Tuesday feature a few states with a majority of black primary voters. Is she what they'd want?

R18 You're not alone despite what being on the DL may lead you to believe.

She’s too cute to be taken seriously yet.

I think she's running for VP. Even she must know that Democrats aren't about to nominate another woman for the top of the ticket anytime soon.

I’m a moderate and she wouldn’t be my choice but I think she’s great. She’s stood up to these motherfuckers like few others. I hope she runs. Even if she’s not the nominee, she’ll be an important voice.

I don't think she can win the nomination through the primary season (Newsom, Shapiro and probably others seem stronger), but if she did somehow win the nomination, it would be Kamala 2.0.

Meaning, AOC would get all the attention, celebrity endorsements, money and momentum, and then she can't win the electoral college.

Democrats need to remember that we have run women two out of the past three cycles, and they lost both times. The country doesn't want a woman president, and with all the recent gerrymandering, it's going to be even harder for Democrats to win up and down the ballot. Please run a man who can win.

I’m done with moderates and status quo faction of the Democratic Party. There’s a reason why the party’s approval is in the drains even with Trump’s also low. The moderates suck as an opposition party and dragged their feet for years leading to our current crisis.

She needs to build up her candidacy with other elected positions first—maybe Senator and/or Governor.

I’d vote for her in a second

The only way a woman will become President is if she’s a conservative.

If we don’t run a straight, white, Christian male we will lose. I don’t know how many times we have to lose big for us to realize that.

[Quote] The moderates suck as an opposition party and dragged their feet for years leading to our current crisis

Absolutely agree! Moderate means “we’ re not fixing much”

Stupid trump is turning avllthe women conservatives away. I won't be surprised is AOC wins. He destroyed the go.

[quote] Moderate means “we’ re not fixing much”

It used to mean that. Not anymore in the MAGA era. There will be plenty to fix and staying centrist will mean stability.

Then again, things could go so wholly awry that a complete turnaround will be necessary. I don't see it happening though.

She will never be president.

More likely she’ll run against Schumer.

[quote]but if she did somehow win the nomination, it would be Kamala 2.0.

She’s not an ineffective communicator like Kamala who’s afraid of speaking to the media.

"Does anyone actually believe that disillusioned Trump voters will cross party lines to vote for her? How many mainstream Republicans will she get. "

She'd have to get a huge influx of young, progressive voters who are frustrated with what they see as a stale party AND older "I'll vote for the Democrat no matter what" voters (at a high turnout rate). She's not going to get once-Dem-now-Republican voters to come back or get a lot of otherwise swing voters. T

give her time. She is solid and can accomplish

If you actually watch and listen to her, she is spot on. Which Democrats in Washington are stronger?

And for those freaked out about Socialism (!), the government we have now is far more extreme than anything proposed by any Democratic Socialist has dreamt up.

My guess is she runs an electric campaign and ends up as VP or Senator.

She works hard for her constituents

Spencer Cox also launched his 2028 campaign this month.

She's a twit, and I would never vote for her.

If that's the best her generation can do, god help us.

R43, are you joking? She’s famous for ignoring her district.

[Quote] staying centrist will mean stability.

And yet, the Dems being the centrist party made them lose all branches of government.

So much for stability

[quote] I was thinking today while surrounded by traffic and aero planes

Are you posting from 1943?

Oh Gawd no

R47, they latched on to progressive shit like trannies, open borders, defund the police, etc. Biden was not centrist at all and running that moron Kamala, the sex change for prisoners candidate, was the final straw.

I'd be happy to support her in a Senate run.

I don't think she should run for president. Nothing about her specifically, just that a president should have the experience of either the Senate or as a governor of a state.

[quote] She'd have to get a huge influx of young, progressive voters who are frustrated with what they see as a stale party

The majority of the country does not identify as left wing. It’s a center-Right country now.

[quote]These nitwits need to ditch the fucking egos and rally around someone who really can’t cross the aisle.

That's the kind of talk only Russian Trolls like to post.

Keep loving in the past r47

The Presidential election now is all about personality. She's got it.

Unless the republican MAGAts can steal another election they are toast.

They will never fairly win the mid-twrns given how poorly they have handled the economy. Most people would say I understate the case.

Bye

I expect a time out.

Stealing is what we do best R56 - MAGA

[quote]but if she did somehow win the nomination, it would be Kamala 2.0.

but if she did somehow win the nomination, it would be Dukakis 2.0.

R1-I LOVE HER

What do you love about her? The fact that she scared off Amazon from opening up one of its headquarters in New York City and took with 25,000 high paying jobs.

I am sure MAGA and all Republicans would be thrilled if she were the next Democratic candidate.

[quote] Unless the republican MAGAts can steal another election they are toast.

Think again.

She’s even dumber than Harris, if that’s possible.

Yes r59, Amazon is so famous for its “high paying jobs”.

Here’s the thing. I think we are fucked and that we will NEVER have another free and fair election, this last one was rigged. So in these circumstances, I’m a high-rolling gal, I say let *anyone* run, and let’s just see how people respond. Isn’t that the test of a democracy anyway, we flush out the trash/weak candidates in the primary? Let AOC and anyone get in the race, let’s hear them debate and see who can keep their shit together. Why not??? The Dems are going to just fuck it up, so I trust the voters more than them right now.

The Dems have started their suicide attempt early this election cycle.

Thanks OP brilliant strategy for keeping the MAGATS crapping their depends on this thread. Keeps them off all the others.

Great assuming that the Supreme Court actually upholds the 22nd Amendment and limits cheeto to two terms, then we'll have a President Vance or, more likely, someone even worse.

AOC was right about Amazon. Look at how it worked out in Virginia.

Kamala Harris is what happens when you don’t have a primary.

Let AOC and anyone else take their chance in the primary and let’s see who the voters like. That’s how the other side got Trump after all.

Of course she was right about Amazon r67! Americans are (rightfully) so distrustful of politicians that they fail to recognize when a politician is actually protecting them from corporate rape and greed. Bezos has helped destroy this country down to ashes.

Honestly, R68, had there been a 2024 primary she would've likely been nominee due to incumbency (assuming Biden resigned).

[quote]Yes [R59], Amazon is so famous for its “high paying jobs”.

They weren't freaking delivery jobs, you freak. It was going to be a major hub with jobs averaging 125G a year, you know, middle class in NYC!

This "achievement" was one of the most dunderheaded of performative Socialist garbage which can and will be easily demagogued to death should she run for higher office. I'd squeeze every drop out of it were I her opponent.

R71 is right. So many cities prepared economic development packages with tax abatements to drive economic development. They competed to attract that business unit to their region (and still do).

At that time, constituents were led to see that favorable tax incentive as taking money from schools, services and affordable housing, and “giving it” to a conglomerate instead. But by voting it down, they lost a lot of good jobs for the region.

It's going to be a no from me, dawg.

No, her public image outside of people who pay attention to liberal politics, she’s seen as crazy and unhinged.

Republicans and MAGA would EASILY tear her apart.

Image is important. It doesn’t matter her policies. Even I could create a meme of her looking crazy saying something crazy. That’s not a good candidate.

What was that photo op of her at the wall? I mean that alone is damaging.

Don't forget the goofy blunder of the "Tax the Rich" dress...at the Met's Costume Gala, hardly a photo op at the local soup kitchen.

That appearance at the most 1% event of the year will get her torn to shreds, the ultimate "Limousine Liberal" move.

Does she seem like the kind of person the US would vote for President these days? I really don't think so.

Mamdami's success or failure as NYC mayor will help/sink her chances.

She'll bring out new voters, outside of the typical Democratic and Republican bases, who aren't usually politically active. Much like Dump did.

Is she going to do something about her voice?

Ugh, if this overly annoying loud banshee ever got elected to the White House, I’d seriously consider siding with Barbra and pretend to move out of the United States after the Inauguration!

[quote]They weren't freaking delivery jobs, you freak. It was going to be a major hub with jobs averaging 125G a year,

That's where you are wrong, I don't know where you got that number from, but most of the complaints about working at Amazon was not the delivery jobs, it was the fulfillment jobs at those big warehouses. Low pay, long hours, poor management, revolving door of hires and massive layoffs. No Unions. In terms of annual salary, full-time warehouse associates typically make in the ballpark of US$35,000-$50,000/year. - Glassdoor

R79. Her voice, and the way she phrases things like an impressionable and idealistic 3rd grader at recess break. It's all got to be an act at this point, right?

I look forward to NOT voting for her. Bill Maher just mopped her up on Real Time last night.

r78, people say that about a wide swath of candidates running in elections tear after year and other than maybe for Trump, it never happens.

Millions of Americans have fast and hard traditions of not voting. It isn't the candidates they don't like it's just the voting that turns them off.

Oh goodie. AOC!! Another candidate who will cower to GLAAD and the TRANS. Because that worked out so well for Kamala?.

Do you want to lose in 2028? What if Trumps replacement is a worse MAGA? It ain't gonna be Vance.

[quote]I look forward to NOT voting for her. Bill Maher just mopped her up on Real Time last night.

The only ones who still watch Bill Maher these days is MAGA. Bill could not mop the floor with anyone even with his own spooge.

R18 "I’d vote blue no matter who, except for this person. If the GOP advanced a moderate candidate, a non-felon under 80, I’d probably switch parties. And I’d never admit it to anyone. Sorry."

We must be twins. I feel exactly the same way. I could never bring myself to vote for her. That's an election I'd have to just sit out. Please, please, please, let's get a Democrat that can be elected next time. Preferably, someone that's still too young for Medicare. Hopefully, someone leaning left on social issues without being extreme leftwing and totally unelectable.

And just who would that magical Unicorn person be r87?

It's easy to put out a laundry list of your dream date, it's a whole different thing to live in the real world and work with what you got.

R88 It's a process of elimination at the beginning.

This country will not elect a woman, two terms of Trump proves it. It would be foolish for the Dems to run a woman.

Squad member = automatic no vote from me

No one on the fringe will win a general election, IMO. She'll raise lots of money, but won't win.

No women, No gays, No people of Color, No Liberals. Again I ask WHO DO YOU WANT! NOT WHO DO YOU NOT WANT. - Crickets. chirp, chirp.

R78 No she won’t.

AOC is absolutely someone that can motivate people to get out and vote. Unfortunately, it's the Republican right wing that she will motivate.

During the first two years of the Biden administration what member of the House Democratic caucus voted with the Republicans more than any other?

Guess!

[quote]AOC is absolutely someone that can motivate people to get out and vote. Unfortunately, it's the Republican right wing that she will motivate.

Again I ask, WHO DO YOU WANT TO RUN INSTEAD?

Andy Beshear is the only hope.

If she gets the nomination, it will be a Dukakis level loss.

She’s a lightweight and not strong enough. She ain’t Hilary, nor Kamala. Gen Z and the other kiddies will not turn out enough to make a difference even if she could win the nomination.

If she is the Democratic nominee, it would be a honest pick, being someone who represents where the Democratic Party is today. On the Republican side, they nominated in 2016 a person who did represent Republican voters' views, despite the Never-Trumpers falsely claiming that he didn't. However, in 2020, the Democrats openly selected someone based on his electability instead of how well he represented the party. It would be refreshing in 2028 to have the Republicans select someone who best represents their views and the Democrats do the same and then let's have an honest contest with voters selecting which ideology they want to go with.

[bold]Childless Bartender Lady is an expert on sports and gentics! She wants to tell straight people how their children should play sports!! [/bold] = "TRANSgirls are girls!! Let them play sports!!"------------this nonsense ain't gonna fly anywhere but NY, Oregon, Washington, and California. Good luck in Nevada, Indiana, Pennsylvania and Michigan.

Mamdani is running away with the NYC mayor's race because he has been laser-focused on affordability. Everything costs too damn much, and he wants to fix it. It's quality of life. The economy, stupid.

If a Democrat expects to win nationwide, they have to make that their primary emphasis.

Oh god, no! Her head is so far up her own ass. No one from that "squad" is electable.

FUCK NO.

enough with putin funded candidates.

Not a chance in hell.

Good for her.

She has a snowball's chance in hell, but I've grown exhausted with the snotty-ass so-called "centrists" wagging their finger in my face all the while licking Liz Cheney's asshole.

I hope she triggers them.

Well, she'll have to fix the gummy smile, first.

I don't agree with her half of the time but I admire her longevity. I honestly thought she'd be gone by now, but nope, she's still here and she's still sticking to her guns. Good for her.

I dislike her and find her demeanor abrasive. The socialist mindset she has backfired ( remember how she pushed Amazon out of her community) and negatively impact the lower middle class and poor in the area she represents.

That being said, there's a ground swell of anger with the Democrats who are far left polarized. She might have a chance if she seeks advice from more moderate Dems and adjusts her platform especially with 18 to 40 white male voters.

Oh no we have to get someone much more electable, like Merrick Garland. Oh right, his name is Andy Beshear.

[quote] That being said, there's a ground swell of anger with the Democrats who are far left polarized.

It is so very irritating that Democrats feel that they either need to fall into either one of the A). Joe Lieberman camp of do-nothing centrism or the b). the AOC camp of progressive, unelectable bullshit.

When the VAST majority of Democrats fall somewhere in between those two extremes.

[quote]I look forward to NOT voting for her. Bill Maher just mopped her up on Real Time last night.

You gotta wonder why Republican-apologist clowns like Bill Maher are so scared of her.

[quote] Merrick Garland.

Disgusting, do-nothing pig.

I am actually glad that he never made it to the Supreme Court.

When I think of "centrist," Merrick Garland is the first person I think of.

[quote]Andy Beshear is the only hope.

Andy Beshear will repress voter turnout so badly they won’t even need to count ballots.

It all comes down to whomever Clyburn anoints in spring 2028.

She’s shown an ability to moderate some of her positions over the years, while maintaining a populist economic message. I suspect we’ll see her distance herself from the Squad over the next two years.

Ultimately, she’s the only Democrat with the name recognition, fundraising ability, and social media savvy to pull off a win against the Republican machine.

She will probably inherit the Bernie Bro vote as Bernie has pretty much anointed her as his successor. That’s a voting block that triggers a lot of people, but it’s nothing to sneeze at.

R117 No she’s not.

She has name recognition because outside of the Democratic base, she’s famous for being nutty and crazy.

That’s like saying everyone knows Lindsay Lohan. Ok but not the way it makes her a famous movie star actress.

Beshear and Shapiro are the best choices but they’re fucked if they don’t promote themselves to the public.

R118 No she won’t and the Bernie Bros are smart enough to know she’s a loser.

The same people supporting AOC in this thread are the same people who supported Kamala and Clinton despite their bad reputations and bad image perceptions to people outside the base.

R118, good for her.

AOC is still around years after many here predicted that she would be gone.

I often don't agree with her, but I won't attack her in the way that I see Democrat centrists attacking her in a vitriolic way that I never see them attacking Republicans.

[quote]Ultimately, she’s the only Democrat with the name recognition, fundraising ability, and social media savvy to pull off a win against the Republican machine.

The Democrats: “the only reason Kamala lost is because she’s a woman and black”.

Ok then, in 2028, let’s go with AOC!

I wish "Centrists" attacked Republicans with the same level of vitriol that they attack progressives with, btw.

"Centrists" seem to save up all of their piss and vinegar for "progressives." And yet when a tried-and-true Republicunt like Liz Cheney throws them a pathetic bone, they lap it up. It's pathetic.

I thought more people voted for her, but the Republicans cheated and "stole" her rightful inauguration? Or so I see many Democrats insisting ...

[quote]It is so very irritating that Democrats feel that they either need to fall into either one of the A). Joe Lieberman camp of do-nothing centrism or the b). the AOC camp of progressive, unelectable bullshit.

The Joe Lieberman camp doesn't exist anymore. Democrats fall into the 1) AOC camp or 2) the camp of people clinging to the memory of something that no longer exists.

The only thing I like about her is her hot ginger bear boyfriend!

[quote]The Democrats: “the only reason Kamala lost is because she’s a woman and black”.

"The Democrats" are saying that because they refuse to see the failure of their messaging and the deep economic frustrations facing voters. AOC is the only one who is living in reality and understands how to connect with voters.

I’m done with this thread as long as everyone ignores the fact that AOC’s image is known for being crazy, radical, and unhinged by the American public outside of people who follow Democratic politics.

This is the type of things they ignore. It’s why we have Trump doing a second term.

If you think they hated Hillary, wait until you see how they hate her... she stands no chance in a national election. None. In NY, maybe, but I'd be on a Republican beating her. Nassau/Suffolk and Westchester can carry a democrat, but not her! Queens and Brooklyn will not win her the state. So she wins a primary but loses to the republican in the statewide election. Yay us! The middle of the road republicans went full MAGA, but the middle of the road dems have not gone fully to the left outside the major urban cores. Sorry to say, but it is reality.

[quote]AOC’s image is known for being crazy, radical, and unhinged by the American public

Look at the current President. Americans have shown repeatedly that they love a crazy person in charge.

I used to think that progressives were the most obnoxious know-it-alls within the Democrat orbit.

And then I met "centrists." And every single fucking thing that they do or say or breathe involves deep-throating a 12-inch Republican dildo or bending over and taking Trump cum.

Thank god that neither of them represent actual Democrats.

R130 Trump is not crazy, he’s immature and an asshole. That’s different from sounding padded wall crazy like AOC.

Turns out you are the most obnoxious know-it-all, r131. Congrats!

That little girl voice... yikes.

R133, aww, are you triggered? Poor snowflake.

She seems to have the Mouth of Sauron's teeth in OP's photo.

[quote]Beshear and Shapiro are the best choices

Shapiro is out, it's in the same group of no gays, women and people of color.

[quote]And then I met "centrists." And every single fucking thing that they do or say or breathe involves deep-throating a 12-inch

Did you called? - Kyrsten Sinema

If we don’t have the midterm election, why would Miss Thing’s fantasies even matter?

[quote]I suspect we’ll see her distance herself from the Squad over the next two years.

Yes because trying to distance yourself from your actual ideology in order to get elected worked so well for Harris. People see through that.

R131 = Democrat delusion.

[quote]Yes because trying to distance yourself from your actual ideology in order to get elected worked so well for Harris. People see through that.

It’s not the ideology. I just see her distancing herself from Tlaib and Omar because they’re widely seen as crackpots who have foot-in-mouth disease. Corrie Bush already took herself out.

R142 Bowman was ten kinds of batshit, too.

The entire group was nuts, and not merely because of their politics. They were crass little fame-whores, just like MTG and that Colorado Cooze.

R132 Name two real examples of times when AOC said or did anything 'padded walls crazy', please.

I guess the democratic party loves losing presidential elections.

[quote]I don't agree with her half of the time but I admire her longevity.

She was first elected in 2018, and began serving in 2019 not during the Carter administration.

[quote]No she won’t and the Bernie Bros are smart enough to know she’s a loser.

No, the Bernie Bros weren't smart enough to know Bernie was a loser....and still is.

r131 = Democrat Derangement Syndrome.

The only people attacking "Centrists" (I guess Sheldon Whitehouse, Ron Wyden, Tammy Duckworth?) are the do-nothing Squad and Berners who have accomplished precisely nothing and hate real Democrats with every breath they take!

Their whole schtick is riling up those who've never actually voted and endowing them with their patented "Purity Above All", giving them every reason to never participate unless it is to vote for them personally or some third-party mountebank.

AOC spends nearly $20 million each election cycle to run in her D+28 district to win fewer votes than nearly every winning incumbent in NY state. Speechifying is "sassy", but legislation changes lives and so far she is woefully short on everything other than voting against her own caucus.

[quote] She was first elected in 2018, and began serving in 2019 not during the Carter administration.

For someone 35-years-old, that is quite a long time, especially in a sea of octogenarians.

Straights aren't voting for MEN in women's restrooms and changing rooms. They aren't voting for MEN taking girls sports medals. They aren't voting for medicare paid tits when medicare won't even cover dentures. I'm sorry. But it's as true as Kamala saying America won't support gay Buttigieg being veep.

Running on the "Trump is Bad" ticket doesn't work. Just ask Hillary, Biden, and Kamala. Using political jibber jabber (like Democracy is at stake) doesn't do it. What WINNING platform is AOC going to run on? Have you heard her speak? She comes off WomanSplaining everything. Men will not vote for this.

r149 that is complete gibberish.

2019 was the same very few years ago, regardless of one's age.

It’s only a matter of time before the far-left woke wing splits from the Democratic Party. Most moderates never signed up for defund the police, cashless bail, DEI, reparations, or lax border and sanctuary city policies. The break will end the ugly infighting once and for all. I see it here on DL all the time.

[quote] It’s only a matter of time before the far-left woke wing splits from the Democratic Party.

That would be like the non-Trumpists saying that the Trumpists would leave the Republican Party. It would be nonsensical since the Trumpists control the party just like the Democrats who you call “far left woke wing” control the Democratic Party. (They certainly don’t call themselves far left-wing.) It’s the non-Trumpists who are pushed out of the GOP, and those you are calling “moderates”, who are the minority, who will be pushed to the outskirts of the Democratic Party.

Trumpists are just “Republicans” and the people who you say are far left-wing are just “Democrats”. It’s the others who are the odd men and women out.

R153 Yes. While I believe police need to be held accountable, I was never in favor of defunding them. A certain degree of affirmative action I'm if favor of, but I'm over obsessing about DEI. I'm am very much in favor if immigration, but not completely open borders. I live in a notorious sanctuary city, but admit to a certain amount of schadenfreude when the border cities sent a bunch if immigrants to us. We deserved it!

Democrats are not nominating another woman anytime soon. People forget how misogynistic the Bernie Bros were against Hillary.

Another day, another random "BUT THE TRANZ" loon hijacking an irrelevant thread.

NO to Shapiro, Newsom, Beshear and Pritzer. We don't need the "hetero white man" savior act again after Biden ruined everything for us.

Pete, Kamala, Jasmine Crockett, AOC, Wes Moore, are all great choices. I would even suggest running Hillary Clinton again. Biden ran three times before winning a single state. We can give Hillary one more attempt.

We can win with diversity as long as we focus on the economy and healthcare.

R158 I miss Hillary Clinton’s pragmatism very much. I really wish the Party learned more from her, and built on both Clintons’ leadership and legacy better than we have. I know of their imperfections, but really admire them just the same.

R158 drunk already, are we?

AOC will flop in Dem presidential primaries, she isn't appealing to voters in various states, especially battleground states. Moderate and liberal Democrats still exist aren't going to vote for AOC in primaries.

If AOC is smart, she will observe what happens in the 2026 midterms. I think many of the progressive Bernie backed candidates running for Senate or Congressional seats will flop hard in primaries.

Here a couple of predictions for the midterms regarding progressive brat wannabe politicians

-Bernie Bro Abdul El-Sayed is running for the Dem nomination for a US senate seat in Michigan. El Sayed has never served in elected office. In 2018, he ran in the Democratic primary for Michigan gubernatorial race and lost to Gretchen Whitmer. El-Saye's US senate run will flop hard because he's facing two women who have more experience than him in political office one is Michigan state senator Mallory McMorrow and the other is Congresswoman Haley Stevens. He will lose to one of those woman and it will likely be Stevens. El-Sayed will go back to his lame podcasting career. If Stevens gets the Democratic nomination for the Senate seat, I will laugh my ass off because many progressives in Michigan are very triggered by her and othter moderate Dem women like Elissa Slotkin and Hillary Scholten. The progressives in the Grand Rapids area have pretty much made a hobby of constantly trashing Hillary Scholten for any little thing she tries to do for constituents.

-TikTok Gen Z progressive brat Kat Abughazaleh, is running in a primary for Congressional seat in Illinois , the brat moved to the district she's running in and people aren't going to back her in Democratic primary.

AOC and her mentor Bernie are going to see El-Sayed and Abughazaleh flop hard and maybe AOC will realize that progressives still aren't loved in many areas of the US.

The anti-Clinton voters I knew best were all women, FWIW.

If Bernie Sanders were younger, he would win in 2028. He has surprisingly strong support in red states. They like him. I voted for Hillary but, in hindsight, I think he would have beaten Trump in 2016.

[quote] I voted for Hillary but, in hindsight, I think he would have beaten Trump in 2016.

Most of her voters, especially the women, find it unbearable to admit that Sanders would have won.

[quote]If Bernie Sanders were younger, he would win in 2028

Bwahahaha!

Bernie was younger in 2020 and lost! Bernie was younger in 2016 and lost!

Bernie is a loser!

[quote]We can give Hillary one more attempt.

AOC sees that her buddy Mamdani is very likely to win the mayor's race and she incorrectly assumes she'll be very successful running for President.

[quote]AOC will flop in Dem presidential primaries, she isn't appealing to voters in various states, especially battleground states.

The battleground states don’t matter in the primaries. It’s all about Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina.

You think AOC has an advantage in those states? I like her, but come on.

Black voters are not voting for a Latina. Not happening. You can't win a Democratic primary without black voters.

You can’t win a general election with only black voters.

There are people who think AOC will end up on a presidential ticket as a VP running mate. I don't see that ever happening. A moderate or liberal would never choose her.

I wouldn't be surprised if this happens in 2028, AOC doesn't get the nomination and she starts kissing ass to the nominee who probably be a male. The nominee humors her and has his team vet her alongside other women (the other women will moderate or liberal Dems). Nominee doesn't choose her and she has a private meltdown.

On a side note, AOC rarely hangs out with any Latina Congresspeople who are liberals or moderates. Teresa Leger Fernandez is the co-chair of the Democratic Women's Caucus, and she's rarely photographed with AOC. Fernandez is 60 60-something woman from New Mexico who represents a lot of rural areas in northern New Mexico. AOC acts like a leader of a cool kids club and she probably doesn't care all much for a Congresswoman representing rural areas.

I wouldn't be surprised if some tell all book gets released by some former Capitol Hill staffer who outs AOC as a phony baloney.

I'd like a Hillary/Pete ticket. I'd also like to win the lottery!

[quote]Black voters are not voting for a Latina. Not happening. You can't win a Democratic primary without black voters.

Or gay white men apparently. Are we finally starting to see the problem here?

she has done nothing

She got chunky

R176 She'll start injecting ozempic later on.

Baby voice = no.

I like her, her heart is in the right place.

Many many people are never Trumpers and never AOC'ers. She has a better chance of winning on America's Got Talent or Dancing with the Stars.

Who was the non binary govt. appointee by Biden with red lipstick wearing a dress who had something to do with nuclear safety? Bring them back, after serving their prison time for stealing women's clothing from airport carousels. Perfect AOC running mate. AOC has bigger balls than Kamala and would have no problem having a non binary as a running mate.

Sam Brinton was not appointed, and was not appointed by Biden. Why do you lie?

If Sanders had won it would have been for one term only and it would have prevented the Dems from winning again for decades.

Why can't she wait until Mamdani knocks it out of the park as the greatest NYC mayor in history and they team up together to make it to the White House.

lol Mamdani will never end up as VP or POTUS.

Also, the people who believe that AOC or Buttigieg can be elected POTUS are naive as fuck.

The first female POTUS will probably be a Republican. If a Democratic woman ever gets elected president it will be some moderate female with a military background.

I doubt she'll win the nom but I'll vote for her if she's still in it by the Pennsylvania primary. A strong showing could put her on the Veep shortlist (can't see her taking it but it would be a step up in prestige for her) and give her a better chance at a later run. She is still young and could have decades of public service ahead of her.

I've wanted Duckworth on the ticket for years, R185!

R147 Bernie lost because the left media didn’t want him. There are Democrats and donors who don’t like him. The left wing media did everything to trash him. They had an “anybody but him” mentality.

That’s why a lot of Bernie Bros went MAGA. It had a lot to do with the misinformation and manipulation and propaganda with the left media which is true.

These guys don’t watch Fox like their parents. They adopted independent media like podcasts and etc.

AOC could carve out a high-profile career in the HoR and eventually become a powerful Speaker ala Pelosi. But she seems guided toward attempting a presidential run.

AOC is nauseating

[quote][R147] Bernie lost because the left media didn’t want him

Who exactly do you consider "the left media??!? Every media outlet is center-right at best and that includes MSNBC. And ALL of them are owned by billionaires through a handful of massive corporations that control everything we watch and listen too.

Bernie lost because those billionaire CEOs and the underlings they control tanked his campaign from the start.they attacked him from the right, not the left.

What ridiculous analysis. I stopped reading after that because the opening premise was so laughably stupid.

[quote] Who exactly do you consider "the left media??!? Every media outlet is center-right at best and that includes MSNBC.

Political dementia.

[quote]If Sanders had won it would have been for one term only and it would have prevented the Dems from winning again for decades.

So... the same exact outcome as we're living under now?

Ella desafía a los poderosos sin miedo ni pausa, ríe de las reglas que quieren callarla, prefiere la verdad aunque incomode a muchos, y por eso AOC siempre brilla con gracia.