Death at Universal Epic Universe is from “blunt impact trauma”

I don’t need Morgan to tell me that the family will receive a substantial settlement.

“Res ipsa loquitur,” as every Torts survivor knows.

So he was on the ride, strapped in, and during the ride something must have struck him at high speed?

Yikes. Saw the headline the other day and I just assumed (wrongly) it was a heart attack. Roller coasters can do a number on you with that adrenaline.

The medical examiner doesn't know if the victim became unresponsive (due to medical event) and then suffered injuries or became unresponsive after his injuries.

One article mentioned he was a wheelchair user.

From the article linked below:

[Quote] Dr. Bahl made this observation from looking at the restraint for riders on Stardust Racers.

[Quote] "With this ride, it had the harness at the lap,” he said. “Now that also makes the upper body a little bit more projectile as it goes back and forth. Now a conscious person is able to hold their body upright, even hold on to the hand handrails."

Not saying this is what happened, but you're supposed to put all your stuff into lockers before you get on rides, especially a fast one like this. If you sneak something like a phone onto a ride it can get loose and kill somebody.

4Gs. Wheel chair bound handicapped man. Maybe he lacked the full body strength that might be necessary. Physics. Similar to the obese young man who had no business on the that drop ride. His body was so heavy it slithered through the restrains when the ride malfunctioned and left all them suspended. nobody else fell out. His fat body squeezed through a small gap, like a rat.

I was once on a roller coaster at magic mountain, that had the steel harness that closes by going over you shoulders, onto you torso. Let’s call it a U-Bar harness.

There had been a teen working at the park who walked on my side of the coaster, and closed the U-Bar harness over my head & shoulders onto my torso, & I guess he thought he had closed it all the way down.

Off we went, and right before we hit the first loop, I felt it moving and immediately clamped it down over myself as hard & as much as possible, which was very difficult to do because I weighed 125 lbs wet, & we were going super fast, but I knew if I didn’t do it, I’d be dead.

Probably one of the scariest moments of my life.

If this kid was wheelchair bound, he should’ve never been on that ride. You need the entire weight of your body resisting against the seat you’re sitting in, in order to hang on & not bounce around, even when properly harnessed into your seat.

What a horrendous way to go. Hope he was knocked out immediately.

R3 and r4 utterly irrelevant.

A restrained person who was otherwise confined to a wheelchair is likely at fault 0.00001% of the time. Per res ipsa, they will pay out big time —and deservedly so.

Could you site the source of your statistics R7 or did you just pull these out of your ass as it appears?

It happened on the Stardust Racers rollercoaster, which is supposed to be one of the best coasters in the world.

It was metaphoric r7 —clue in.

…read the link as to RIL liability—jeez. It’s a fundamental concept in Torts. If nothing else, see the case of the obese young man. He did nothing but follow directions for the ride, and died. Think of a plane crash. You are in your seat. It crashes. You are dead. Logically, you cannot be at fault. Negligence by others is assumed. Your estate gets $$$$. It’s not rocket science.

For r8^^

R10 The obese young man's family won the case and he was not at fault. But it was very stupid to get on that ride. That is all. He's dead, they are rich. The two can be true.

It was not stupid of him—he wanted to enjoy the ride like anyone else. Which was his right.

The stupidity —actually, the gross negligence—was on the part of the operator, etc.

The more you know 💫

Could it have been a bird?.Ever since Fabio took a pigeon to the face, I've been afraid of outdoor coasters and birds. And Florida has thise giant cranes that stand five feet tall.

Aren't there size restrictions for rides if you might be too small? I blame the park if they don't post other high risk factors.

R13 guess you have low reading skills. I specifically wrote IT was stupid. Not he was stupid. If they let him on and it wasn't safe, they were stupid. Let's wait and see the explanation.

[quote] One article mentioned he was a wheelchair user.

The sign says "No cripples on the rides". Therefore, it is NOT our fault and WE are NOT to BLAME!!!

16 I read quite well. Well enough to know that the post was ambiguous, and allowed for a response to clarify things. ☮️

r16 I type a bit less well ;) ^

No need to “wait”—by all appearance this is a classic example for RIL. He was wheelchair-bound!

Come back in a year—it will have been a slam dunk.

He didn't fall off the ride so obviously he was banged around on it. It's a brutal ride. One would suppose that the ride is made to not be deadly if someone passes out. So passing out may not be the reason. Then what is.

Negligence of the owner/operator/designer. Read the thread!

R22 why dont you shut up you sanctimonious cunt. There is no info in this thread nor the linked article about what causes "blunt force trauma" for someone strapped into his seat on a roller coaster. That is what is unknown.

We hear that you are firm it is owner/operator negligence. Repeat it 20 more times and see how engaging this thread becomes.

What physically happened to this man to kill him.

Wheeeeee!

R23 take a torts class and get back to us. TIA

Why do they let legless and other spindly leg/barrel chest types on these? Do you remember, after the footless six flags girl, the legless roller coaster guy? And of course with no legs to be pressed by the safety bar, he went flying off. It was sad, I think his kid was there, but avoidable. This guy too. He was on it in his wheelchair, I believe, and something on it came lose and knocked him out or something. Oh well, keep letting "those people" ride and you will make their families rich.

You're a moron. "Those people"? The "footless six flags girl" was a footed girl who took a ride, a cable snapped, and sliced off her feet.

[quote] Do you remember, after the footless six flags girl

yes. And then someone posted a video to Youtube showing several less severe incidents at Six Flags parks with that Venga Boys song playing in the background.

First time here asshole at R27? No shit. Jfc, this place used to be funny. Stay off the Dan Motherfuck thread if you don't want to read about "those people" who lose heads and limbs doing dumb shit, like this coaster was for this guy.

What dumb hit did the girl at Six Flag do? She got on a ride.

Party!

Generally workers aren't allowed to disallow someone to ride unless they physically have something about them that creates a safety hazard.

The most obvious and common hazard is someone being too short, second is someone being too fat to secure the restraints. Others that depend on the ride is amputees. They have to take off their prosthetic leg for certain rides, and if it was amputated above the knee, they aren't allowed to ride.

Otherwise, someone can come up to an employee and say "Hello I am a 75 IQ pregnant epileptic with a spine made of dry spaghetti, is it safe for me to ride this?" You can only tell them what basically is on the sign. That it is not recommended for them to ride. It has to be left up to the rider, because if you tell someone they can't ride, that could be a discrimination lawsuit.

You take the plaintiff as you found them. It’s a well understood principle of negligence.

Some minimum wage monkey didn't decide this, they just let him on and let some retard lug him onto the ride off whatever mobility device he was on. There was no contemplation of liability here. Just a monkey amusement park worker doing all he knew to do. That's how James Hackemer (archive) died falling from a Six Flags coaster in 2011. The first headlines just said "war vet" or "amputee," but he'd also had a severe brain injury and two strokes.

With that in mind, the family quotes in the sensationalist news started to sound like they were humoring a guy with greatly diminished capacity. One of the ride operators tried to talk to him, but only tried as hard as you'd expect from someone working in the service industry dealing with an entitled person plus family.

He had on a seat belt and lap bar, but that's not secure with only half a leg, and then he leaned to catch his hat as it flew off...