Emmys Tonight Part 2

GREAT speech from Colbert.

Apparently, I need to watch “Adolescence.”

Colbert wasn’t robbed. Enough with the bullshit

Plan B has been super lucky this year with Adolescence. I wonder if Brad and Jen will have a celebratory fuck after the show.

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Half the room looked in refusal to clap for Adolescence winning

Oh, Sarah...my little bird. About your dress...I have some notes. Several pages.

A funny bit.

This is actually great.

Ray Romano. Remains sexy AF.

[quote] The shit Sarah Paulson got on, makes me wish Joan Rivers was still alive.

It still wasn't as hideous as either Cristin Milioti's or Erin Doherty's.

Actually, “Adolescence” struck me as a very popular (and foregone conclusion) win in every category.

No they didn't, r6.

Seth Rogen has 4 Emmys.

The Studio won. Hollywood loves shows about itself.

Boo, The Studio. I couldn’t get through it.

I don't get the love for Severance S2. The 1st season was great but the 2nd doesn't deserve all these awards.

Seth Rogan gives hope to young potheads everywhere!

Almost all predictions predicted The Studio sweeping.

I watched Adolescence. Meh

I’m available for work!

R20 It was magnificent

Adolescence was the outstanding drama this year. Very topical dealing with young teens, the Internet, murder.. But very depressing. I couldn’t get even finish episode 1 of The Studio. Boo.

Kim K. Is an actress now??

OK, I’ll watch All’s fair. Looks good.

Sad for you, r20.

The studio is the bear, which was the new Veep, which was the new modern family, which was the new 30 rock, which was the new Frasier.

Unpopular opinion: All’s Fair looks good and usually anything with G in it, is.

Which was Cheers

Colman Domingo must have been taking lessons in pompous presentation from Phylicia Rashid backstage.

Sad for Colman, too, with that suit.

Yay for Noah!

Oh good! Noah wins. Great show.

R31 yea it doesn’t work.

Didn't Noah have a reputation for being most difficult?

Well deserved for Noah - great show! His mother is a nurse, I know she must be so proud!

No photo of Tharah's outfit OP? Thread fail.

This season of shows was sort of boring. Maybe that’s why this show is falling flat

I liked the Pitt, but a lot of people seemingly LOVED it.

is Chris Meloni wearing an acid-washed tuxedo?

Dear lord, Meloni & Tony!

My mom constantly calls Ice Tea Coffee…

Noah has such a sweet, genial face.

Thrilling win for Noah. What a moment!

I love my Law & Order universe. It’s just so comforting.

Marissa looks like her Mother so much more with her hair like that.

*Mariska - sorry, I’m drunk

I think it helps to be the most recent show. Both The Pitt & The Studio fit that.

Meloni looking super hot.

Tony aged like we want our significant others to age.

[Quote] Thrilling win for Noah. What a moment!

Mary!

The Pitt was great. I was torn between this and Slow Horses which I also love.

Tony Goldwyn makes Meloni looks average.

Marishhhhhka looked good. It was nice to see her glammed up for once.

Nate was an executive producer.

Lucy was going to win, but Gary talked her out of it.

Noah has aged well. I would give iy up for him.

I was more engaged than usual in the show.

Only 5 mins overtime. Not bad.

Chris Meloni is a huge Democrat. He’s Alpha all the way unlike 99% of maga.

You know, slurping in Wylie. Oooph, that’s good stuff.

Is Pedro even trying to keep his gaydom a secret at this point? He shows up with an obvious stud (who isn't a celeb or family member), and then spends half the show in a white tux with his leg jauntily swung over the other. I know he didn't have a real shot of winning Best Actor, but I gotta wonder who he would've thanked this time.

Noah can work my pit ANY time

[quote]Chris Meloni is a huge Democrat. He’s Alpha all the way unlike 99% of maga.

Oh, he's an Alpha alright. That fucker can go ALL GODDAMN NIGHT! Rock fucking hard the entire time, even at 50-plus!!

R62 thought his date was his Trans sister?

Noah aged well.

Severance lost me in confusion and pretension after Season 1.

Noah goes above and beyond to be very kind and I think it’s because he wasn’t like that on ER and made enemies on that set.

Now I'm taking my hooters with me to par-tay tonight!

Meloni looks like he would throw a brutally mean good fuck.

None of my picks won but there's always The Golden Globes.

Unfortunately after a great season 1, Severance fell apart in season 2. It should have been a full length movie not a series. True of many things these days.

Meloni needs to let himself age gracefully; he's trying too hard.

No Raúl Esparza? Mr. Barba is my favorite L&O character.

R72 that’s YOUR opinion. Many of us disagree

I thought season 2 of “Severence” was ambitious and interesting, but less emotionally involving and accessible than season 1. It’s in danger of being too cerebral and too far up its own ass. But I was thrilled Tillman and Lower won.

I like Kathy Bates but that “Matlock” reboot sucks, it’s the worst kind of formula network blather. And Bates didn’t elevate it, rather she sank to its level. Maybe it’s all the weight she lost, she seems smaller than life these days.

Britt Lower should have won for season 1 of “Severence” but wasn’t even nominated. Adam Scott did great work, but Noah snuck in with an beautifully sustained intense performance for nearly twice the numbers of eps “Severance” had, and Wyle dominated every episode with great heart.

Severance definitely fell apart in season 2. It shouldn’t be getting this attention. And The Studio REALLY shouldn’t be getting this attention. Not funny, unwatchable. I don’t care how many comedy A listers they throw in it, the writing is garbage and the actors are totally at sea with multiple disparate styles clashing. It’s a real piece of shit, and I like quite a few of the actors. Unfortunate that Hollywood is acting like they love it.

There was never a question that Adolescence was going to win everything it was nominated for. That and The Pitt were the two shows of the year. Period.

I'm so happy for Cristin Milioti, she was terrific. I loved little Owen's speech.

Noah Wyle was a prick on the ER set by season 5. I see he learned and grew up and goes above and beyond to be kind

R78 any juicy stories?

In Memoriam segment, beginning with the insufferable Phylicia Rashad.

Awww Sydney and Colman catching up.

Maybe that footage will put the MAGA shit to rest.

I like that style of dress that is coming back, where instead of carrying a snack purse, you can put them right on top of your boobs and nobody sees. Easy access.

My feeling about Sweeney is that she’s abnormally ambitious, even by Hollywood standards. She’ll want to keep everyone guessing. And won’t want to alienate folks by leaning too far to one side or the other. She wants to remain sphinx-like. Whether her strategy or her teams that is a smart (but spineless) way to go these days.

Of course she might just be dumb. Or not know much about politics.

She’s is an “actress”, R82

She isn’t dumb. And not leaning a specific way is smart. Not dumb.

Omg HOTTIE

She brought her younger cousin with her to the Emmys

I don't care who actors vote for, nor do I care what their politics are. However, I understand with how polarized things are these days; everyone wants everyone else to choose a side. I think it's best for all entertainers to just straddle the fence. Don't piss off anyone.

Enough with the big titted Sydney Sweeney.

Please tell me the posts all over this site that sound like an old queen trying to imitate a teenage girl going off about the awesomeness of Sydney Sweeney are the handiwork of just one deranged person.

[quote] Tony Goldwyn. Rowr…

He looks damn good.

Tony Goldwyn is the ultimate nepo yet no one mentions it. He’s the ULTIMATE nepo. A bigger one than the likes of Kate Hudson or JLC.

R81 cool candid moment between two stahs. Just because one is Republican doesn’t make them MAGA. I bet Coleman was the greatest gay uncle ever on that set 😂.

I had to take a moment. I was bawling my eyes out after Noah won. Such a deserved win for a brilliant and beautiful performance from one of my favorite actors ever. ER is a fav of mine and he struck gold again.

So proud of him.

Ultimate Nepo or not, I’d let him do ANYTHING to me.

I would gladly be the filling in a Tony Goldwyn/Meloni sandwich.

I was so happy for Jeff Hiller. I love “surprise” Emmy wins like his, or Tatiana Maslany for Orphan Black or Louie Anderson for Baskets.

It’s a shame that the best recent TV comedy, What We Do in the Shadows, never won Emmys. Very gay positive show with ACTUAL laughs.

Wyle was awful to everyone new, mostly Goran Visnjic, who was cast to replace George Clooney in season 6. Wyle even admits he felt genuine “hatred” for him.

Why did Mariska look like a mummified corpse?

R99 funny that he mentions "A game" in that article and also mentioned it tonight....so is he still being an asshole to his costars?

He also said this to Hollywood Reporter

“But when [Goran Visnjic] came on to the show, I had a chip on my shoulder. I had a chip on my shoulder with anybody that came on that show. I’ve systematically gone to and apologized to everybody over the years about being the person that I was — which was, “You better come to play, you better bring your A game. This is pro ball, blah, blah, blah.” And it was not an easy environment to work in because we didn’t suffer fools. We were really hard on people, and I was hard on people that were coming into the show, like Erik Palladino or Michael Michele. Everybody had to earn their keep, in my opinion, especially poor Kellie Martin. I owe her a big apology. Goran, I [gave him grief] when he first came on. And then I realized that he was a way better actor than I was. He performed Hamlet in Dubrovnik in front of thousands of European screaming fans. He was the real deal. I hated him because I always felt like I was losing a scene to him. Alright. Let’s talk about something else.”

[quote]Why did Mariska look like a mummified corpse?

Oh please, she looked old-school Hollywood glam.

One of my favorite things of ER lore was the big zoom reunion panel they did. Noah said something about Anthony and George bringing everyone together to say there wouldn't be egos here because the show is special, etc. Present-day George was like, yeah, that was actually an intervention for you! And the whole cast including Noah burst out laughing. Great moment.

Noah was the big diva on set with an ego back then.

Noah was notoriously mean to Kellie Martin back during ER. I still to this day believe part of why she quit was because of him. It didn’t help she had to work very closely with him specifically because her character was training under Carter.

You could hear a pin drop when Sweeney walked out. They hate her.

Miss Cooper Koch has had sufficient...

Network TV didn’t win anything tonight, except for Colbert, which was canceled, and the SNL special.

You can see why network TV ratings continue to decline. All the best and most buzz worthy shows are on the streamers.

Totally unrelated but, is still Jake G "dating" his -insert name- model beard?

In reference to R534 from previous thread.

Einbeinder won’t be asked to present at next year’s Emmys. Her fuck ICE sealed that deal.

The Hannah E. hater must really be angry she won.

Is there a reason why Sweeney cannot smile or open or close her mouth? Has she had a stroke and I missed it?

She looks like someone who has been significantly medicated - big tits and all.

Did Stephen Graham get the family discount at the tanning salon? They all appeared to have the same very uniform, continuously-toned tan. Not saying it looked awful, just remarkably consistent.

What if they’re naturally tanned?

Cooper was kinda robbed

Speaking of tanned, Scarlett Johansson was looking pretty golden and blonde.

Mr & Mr Koch-McClave looked FABOO!

Cooper is so fucking handsome

Who were the two blondes who bantered about coming out? Not familiar.

Wow- new show “All’s Fair” with Glenn Close and WHO? KIM KARDASHIAN???

Happiest about Jeff Hiller’s win.

Also loved the win for The Traitors, which is the most entertaining show on TV.

I appreciated Adolescence and it was well done but I didn’t enjoy watching it.

R18, that was Brittany Snow and Malin Akerman. They are the stars of Hunting Wives, one of the biggest hits on Netflix this year. Their characters become lovers. It’s been renewed for another season.

R53, I'll take both.

[quote] Seth Rogan gives hope to young potheads everywhere!

I thought it was particularly funny, considering his character on the series, that Rogan very well nearly forgot to publicly thank the executive, Tim Cook. Not that he deserves it.

I’ve never quite heard a star admit to their nastiness and envy and how they have grown and regret their moral weakness the way Noah Wyle did.

Besides that, The Pitt was the show of the year. I’m thrilled that Wyle, Katherine LaNasa (married to hot Grant Show! Bitch!) and Shawn Hatosy won. Fiona Dourif and Dr Tweaker Travolta were unlucky not to be nominated.

The acting was the best thing about Adolescence. The real time gimmick helped cover up the Very Special Episode writing.

I'm thrilled that the truly puerile White Lotus got nothing. And, the ridiculous streak of The Bear has been broken.

Indeed, the last episode kind of pulled things together but that whole season of The White Lotus was a trial to watch.

I ended up rooting for Greg/Gary.

r118, Malin Akerman, who was best known for the Silk Spectre in Watchmen (she was brunette and it looked amazing on her), and recently on Billions, Brittany Snow, whom you may know from Hairspray (Michelle Pfeiffer's daughter) and Pitch Perfects They're both on The Hunting Wives (I've never heard of it), so PR threw them in for it.

Fiona Dourif is the daughter of Brad Dourif.

That’s some cool lineage. I loved seeing cameo Brad turn up as McKay’s dad. Even if you didn’t know the part was played by a legendary Oscar-nominated character actor, you knew he was “someone” because he had so much presence in such a short period of time.

[quote]After what many felt was a suspiciously timed announcement by CBS that Late Night with Stephen Colbert would end after this year, it was unsurprising that the room shook with cheers as the crowd took to their feet to celebrate the show's win for outstanding variety series. After sharing a heartfelt and jubilant speech, he ended on a thoughtful note about the show, which he said he'd hoped would be a show about love

[quote]"At a certain point ... I realized that in some ways, we were doing a late-night comedy show about loss. And that's related to love, because you only truly know how much you love something when you get a sense that you might be losing it," he said. "Ten years later, in September of 2025, my friends, I have never loved my country more desperately. God bless America. Stay strong, be brave, and if the elevator tries to bring you down, go crazy and punch a higher floor."

Fashion show.

How was And Just Like That left out? They gave us Seema, Lisa Todd Wexler, and Anthony’s Italian hot-bread lover — the culture, the history, the trophies! Robbed.

Did Noah Wyle deserve to win over Adam Scott? Is it because they love hospital shows?

Loved how Bowen, Michael and Colman were all so happy with Jeff winning.

Here is the whole scene, R134.

Walton Scoggins looks like the more glamorous version of Jeff.

I know Malin Akerman solely from The Comeback.

The Hunting Wives also starred DL fave Chrissy Metz. She didn’t get any lesbian sex scenes.

Who cares what an asshole Noah Wyle was 25 years ago? He has evidently changed enough to apologize to his old co-stars (though in Kellie Martin’s case on ER, he was absolutely right. She was a talentless blob with the presence and affect of a 12 year old and she was a terrible actress, borne out by the fact that we’re blessedly not burdened today with her middle aged presence on our TV screens).

Since I don’t have to work with Noah Wyle, and am not his neighbor or friend, I’m only interested in what he does onscreen. As good as Adam Scott was in dilineating his diverging ‘innie’ and ‘outie’ personalities, his performance killed primarily in the episode in which he rapidly switched personalities several times, and did a great job of distinguishing between them. I don’t know which episode of “The Pitt” was put in consideration for Wyle’s performance, but anyone who watched the series (i.e. everyone who voted) saw him give a detailed, harrowing performance which stayed consistent through 15 episodes. It was a really bravura acting turn which took the audience on an emotional journey.

That emotional accessibility is what made “The Pitt” so successful with audiences. “Severence” is smart and beautifully done (and gets good ratings) but more a mind game than a heart game. It’s the epitome of prestige streaming and Apple spends a fortune on it. “The Pitt” is much cheaper even at twice the number of episodes, it’s basically an adaptation of the network model, retro-fitted for streaming, and very much in the comfort zone of many in the TV business.

[quote] Since I don’t have to work with Noah Wyle, and am not his neighbor or friend, I’m only interested in what he does onscreen.

Really?! So IF he's abusive to those to whom he is closest, and/or holds political views you find beyond the pale, this is of no moment to you?

R139, I bet you wouldn't be so forgiving if it was an actress.

This is adorable. The day before the Emmys, Owen Cooper was surprised by his idol, Jake Gyllenhaal.

[quote]Network TV didn’t win anything tonight, except for Colbert, which was canceled, and the SNL special. You can see why network TV ratings continue to decline.

I'll be sure to file this under "No Shit, Sherlock," cupcake, since you apparently didn't get the memo that broadcast TV is in its final death throes. Now that most people have transitioned to streaming, the average viewer age across ALL FOUR broadcast networks is over 65! CBS used to be "the geezer network" with an average viewer age of 60, but this is basically how the CW survived for so long despite ridiculously low ratings: they may have sucked, but they were successfully pulling in a *young* demographic, and that's all that ad buyers generally want. (Which I say as a former media planner on Madison Avenue: CBS has been the highest-rated network overall for most of the past 30 years, but that's mainly because its shows draw in geezers, and geezers still watch the most TV. An ad on a show like, for instance, "The O.C." could've very well sold for 2x as much as any given top-20 CBS show at the time.)

There isn't any sort of timetable yet, but terrestrial TV may end up like AOL: hanging on by a thread for 20 years too long, and solely because people are too afraid of change their ways & switch to streaming. We still have a legitimate *need* for TV, however – it's still the most heavily used source of news, and aside from Fox & Newsmax is generally accurate – but what we don't *really* need is entertainment programming, or at least not network TV & its strict constraints: almost exactly 42 minutes of airtime, 22 episodes per season, sticking to the same formula each week, and America's more-absurd-than-ever pearl-clutching over cussing. (While basic cable started embracing "fuck" a decade ago, network TV still operates under FAA mandate, and still does stupid shit like fining a network $1 million because Bono said "fuck" on a live broadcast while accepting either a Grammy or Oscar.)

The ONLY network shows that generate an actual profit nowadays are Today & GMA, and they've only managed it by stealthily forcing out high-priced talent. (Speaking of: this was the *real* reason Kelly Ripa replaced Ryan Seacrest with her own husband on "Live." Her show's ratings are down as well, and they couldn't afford *two* hosts making $20 mil a year.) The late-night shows were profitable until fairly recently, but since the youngest viewers were the first to cut the TV cord entirely, they're going down the shitter as well. I know the Colbert news was a shock, but only if you missed that James Corden's replacement had already been fired – AND they announced the show would be ending entirely. Kimmel said last year that he expected his own show to end within 18 months.

But yeah: if "Abbott Elementary" and "Matlock" are the only network shows that can even get *nominated* nowadays, that's a clear sign of a continued (but predictable) downward spiral.

R133 it was a toss between either. Everyone knew it would come down to one of them but Noah had the edge, especially with the overdue narrative as he was nominated 5 times for ER in the supporting category but never won.

[quote]My feeling about Sweeney is that she’s abnormally ambitious, even by Hollywood standards. She’ll want to keep everyone guessing. Of course she might just be dumb.

She's exceptionally ambitious, and definitely NOT "dumb." While I'm reassessing my feelings in light of the reveal of her being a registered Republican, I *was* a definite fan of hers. She knows full well she could readily be dismissed as a "blonde bimbo," and has made a point of taking unconventional roles along with mainstream fare. She starred in "Reality," about the decidedly non-glam Reality Winner, the (oddly named) Air Force translator who leaked the NSA report about Russian interference in the 2016 election, and has "Christy" (about a female boxer) up next.

As for her intellect, she was her high school valedictorian – and graduated a year early – and taught *herself* Russian (over a decade ago, and not related to any current ongoing events), in addition to teaching herself how to rebuild a vintage '73 Bronco. I certainly hope there's some explanation for why she'd both buy a house in Florida *and* register to vote as a Republican there, but it's a very safe bet her family is conservative. She grew up mainly in Spokane (the one conservative part of WA) as well as Idaho (heavily conservative, including some Mormon overflow).

But yes, everything she's doing is by design. Okay, almost: I'm curious if she knew – and this admittedly isn't something people in general realize, either – that 1) your voter registration is a matter of public record, including your selected party affiliation; and/or 2) if that was the case in the places she grew up. (Which I say having grown up in Texas: you merely register to vote, not align with either party, and anyone can vote in the Democratic or Republican primary – but you can only vote in *one* of the two primaries. My mom, a diehard liberal, still votes Republican in most primaries solely to try to force out Ted Cruz & John Cornyn.)

I trust, then, R145, your mom will vote for Ken Paxton in next year’s primary.

[quote]I'm thrilled that the truly puerile White Lotus got nothing. And, the ridiculous streak of The Bear has been broken.

Agreed. S3 of "The Bear" sucked, and we all know it. While its latest season is another story, it fully deserved this year's shutout. (I'd even argue it didn't deserve a few of the nominations this time as well.)

Ditto for "The White Lotus," and I remain baffled by how both the cast *and* its entire writing & directing staff – in other words, Mike White – were unaware just how far off the rails S3 went. While I appreciate Mike pushing boundaries in terms of gay male anything, incest is a kink to a few but an ICK to almost everyone else. It also wasn't helpful how Patrick Schwarzenegger & Sam Nivola went on the talk show circuit solely to insist that nothing really "happened," and they're both just two totes norm straight brahs banging their hot-ass bitches, tired of fielding questions about "all that gay shit."

Also, people seem to have forgotten that it was almost shut out last year as well: Jennifer Coolidge was the only winner. I would've been okay with Sam Rockwell winning for THAT monologue alone, but obviously Tramell Tillman did a fuckload more to earn it.

I *really* hope the early rumors about next season being set in the South of France are wrong. It's too similar to Italy, and very much been-there-done-that. Mike almost seems to have a Survivor-like mentality of thinking tropical places are the lone "choice," never mind that this isn't at all the case for hotels/hospitality in general. Even Aman Resorts, the ridiculously posh real-life ones that were the primary model the show borrowed – its first resort was in Phuket, though the show didn't film there – have resorts in places like the French & Swiss Alps (e.g. Courchevel), but also an increasing number of urban locations. (But to be fair, we did see The White Lotus Bangkok this season, albeit briefly.)

Why is Bowen sleeveless?

R146, not necessarily. It depends entirely on which Republican candidate is predicted to win the primary, along with their rough odds of winning the general. And right now I don't think there's any clear evidence yet that Paxton has accrued enough influence to defeat John Cornyn, an admittedly milquetoast but nonetheless four-term senior senator. We know Paxton is Trump's favorite, but what we don't know is when Trump will begin sliding in popularity even among the MAGA core.

Also, Colin Allred may have lost against Ted Cruz during a presidential election year, but going up against Cornyn in the midterms is another story entirely – especially if the GOP hit rocky shoals, as expected. Allred's announced his run, but for the first time in 30+ years, Texas may actually have a competitive *Democratic* primary for the Senate! James Talarico, a state legislator, just announced his run last week. He's definitely an interesting contender, in part because the first question he typically gets is, "How the fuck are you *not* Republican?" (He's a native Texan, white, and the son of a preacher. Except he's a Christian in the *right* mold, meaning the Jimmy Carter one: loving thy neighbor, not "God loves those who help themselves.")

OTOH Allred's mixed-race & definitely more likely to appeal to Black voters in particular, plus he's the more polished of the two. I think either would be great, as does my mom – meaning yes, she'll most likely vote in the Republican primary despite having the Dems have a realistic chance of winning, especially if Trump's administration devolves into full-tilt FUBAR levels.

Lmao who cares who she votes for? Welcome to America. Wake up. You have the freedom to vote for who you want, as do I and anyone else.

Spokane is not the only “conservative part of Washington”. That is a lie.

And she comes from a very intelligent family and is intelligent and ambitious. Trying to criticize someone for being ambitious is insane behavior and just shows you lack ambition and are probably lazy and useless to those around you.

[quote] It depends entirely on which Republican candidate is predicted to win the primary, along with their rough odds of winning the general. And right now I don't think there's any clear evidence yet that Paxton has accrued enough influence to defeat John Cornyn, an admittedly milquetoast but nonetheless four-term senior senator. We know Paxton is Trump's favorite, but what we don't know is when Trump will begin sliding in popularity even among the MAGA core.

From the perspective of an outsider, albeit a rather well-informed one, I think Cornyn will coast to yet another reelection if he's renominated. While Paxton might still be the favorite in the general if he gets the nod, he won't be a prohibitive favorite, increasing the odds that a Democrat - Talarico! - can flip that seat.

It's only because she's a woman, R150. A young man like that, DLers would be cheering for/lusting after.

Don't ever forget where you are.

He’s deluded, R148. He thinks he can pull that off with those Frau mom byebye arms.

R147 I've read that White doesn't like anywhere cold, so that eliminates a lot of locations that could otherwise be interesting.

[quote]Really?! So IF he's abusive to those to whom he is closest, and/or holds political views you find beyond the pale, this is of no moment to you?

Just out of curiosity, are you Gen Z?

No, R155. A Boomer.

Interesting. Most people I know who skew on the side of “judge the artist, not the art” of someone like Wyle who admits his sins and made amends skew younger.

Fuck the MAGA balloon tit bitch with the Orange Ape's tiny little mushroom nub.

Off topic but serious question....am I the only gay who has never seen any of these shows and doesn't know who most of these people are? If it weren't for my partner, my TV would never be turned on. I am fully entertained by youtube, and that's what I watch. All these streaming services are too expensive and not worth the cost. I'd rather take a trip than spend money on TV. Rant over.

R159, so why are you in the Emmys thread?

[quote]Did Noah Wyle deserve to win over Adam Scott?

Actually, Matthew Goode deserved to win for Dept. Q and he wasn't even nominated. I don't understand why the Emmys ignored that brilliant show. Netflix needs to do a better job at pushing season 2.

[quote] Owen Cooper was surprised by his idol, Jake Gyllenhaal.

And by "idol" I'm pretty sure it means that he has jerked off countless times watching "Brokeback Mountain", "Jarhead" and/or "Love & Other Drugs".

R143's assessment is pretty solid.

At some point in the next few years (5 to 10 at the most) all 4 of the major networks will either move entirely to streaming OR the remaining "free" over the air content will become more of a QVC/cable news mashup, with some local news and programming still featured, maybe.

The days of network TV programing 3 hours a night (4 on Sundays) will be gone. NBC was already considering abandoning the 10 pm hour a year or two ago. If those hours continue, the "free" networks will be repeating what the streaming networks have already shown first. Much as the TV networks used to be the place to see theatrical movies many years ago, the free networks will probably be featuring older reruns of things, plus perhaps a lot more foreign content, as they did during COVID when Canadian content was imported.

I wish it wasn't happening but it seems relatively inevitable, the speed just depends on a few things. A bunch of shows and companies were impacted in 2008 due to that writers' strike and the economic downturn, and again in 2023 when THAT strike happened, so those kind of things can accelerate the rate of change.

I said before I'd be the filling in a Tony Goldwyn/Meloni sandwich but I wouldn't mind Grant Show in there, too.

R159 many of these shows have a loyal fan base. It’s still a lot to keep up with though. I watch a lot of movies and streaming shows and still feel like I’m always behind. I feel it’s worth the money though as there’s some great stuff to watch.

[quote]I don't understand why the Emmys ignored that brilliant show.

For some reason, Netflix didn't premiere [bold]Dept. Q[/bold] until two days before the end of the Emmys eligibility period. Had they waited a week, the show would have been eligible for next year's awards. I suspect they didn't think it would do as well as it did—a Top 10 show for 6 weeks—and were already fully invested in the Emmy chances of [bold]Adolescence[/bold] by then.

[quote]Fiona Dourif is the daughter of Brad Dourif.

Nepo baby!

R162, at his age, it was probably nightly.

Network shows can no longer compete with Streaming and Premium Cable because the content police and standards and practices limit them. Network will devolve further into a reality competition, sports programming, and a cheap-to-produce series.

There’s nothing more tiresome than people who like to be holier-than-thou because they “don’t watch television” and look down on those who do. I have a couple of friends like that. So what? I don’t like football, but I don’t make fun of you talking about it all the time or posting on social media about it. I like TV and I watched every show that won an Emmy last night. I also read and go out and work and have a full life. Why judge someone for enjoying something that you don’t? And WHY come into a thread about that subject and shit on something everyone likes to do to pass the time?

Because, R170, that's what DLers do.

Some people were really critical of the telethon aspect of the show.

R147 It all really boils down to, Mike White being a hack. It's a shitty show about shitty people acting like shits. And, people enjoy that sort of thing now.

I think Dept. Q is eligible for consideration NEXT year. I think the rules are, you're eligible in the Emmy year where the majority of your episodes aired. And, no double dipping.

Excuse me, there's already an "All's Fair"!

[quote]Off topic but serious question....am I the only gay who has never seen any of these shows and doesn't know who most of these people are?

You're definitely not alone. TV's changed: it's really that simple. Instead of paying a monthly HBO subscription or for cable TV, you have to subscribe (usually separately) to various bundles of streaming channels, and it's a definite lifestyle adjustment. The shows themselves are as well: the network TV model is nearly dead, and streaming shows can have anywhere from six to 15 episodes in a given season. You also need to figure out how to find out about various shows, considering only a tiny fraction of the most high-profile shows are widely reviewed by critics.

The one MASSIVE change is being able to watch anything you want at any time. You've never seen "Severance" or "The Studio"? Just sign up for Apple TV+ and binge-view each. Same for "Hacks" or "Adolescence."

Honestly, even my nearly 80-year-old mother has transitioned to streaming shows handily, so I'd be very surprised if you had problems with it, at least after you get the hang of it.

So many gay winners last night:

Tramell Tillman

Erin Doherty

Jeff Hiller

Hannah Einbinder

Alan Cumming

Jeff Hiller is a woman dressed as a man! He shouldn't be able to compete in men's categories!!!!!

Jeff Hiller is great but he was sorta playing himself.

Still, that show was amazing and I'm glad he was recognized.

Who was that white guy in the white jacket who presented with the gal and the black guy on the scooter?

James Marsden, R178.

[quote]So many gay winners last night

Also a lot of gay losers. Mostly closet-cases.

Ah.

R179 People go on about Paul Rudd, but at 51, I think Marsden rivals him in the ageless category.

r163, the actors contract is up next year, so hopefully they'll get their shit together.

[quote]I think Dept. Q is eligible for consideration NEXT year.

Not unless they release another season before next summer, R172.

The eligibility period for last night's awards ended on May 31, 2025. The eligibility period for next year, therefore, began on June 1. (The ending date hasn't been announced yet, but will most likely mirror this year.)

Netflix released all 9 episodes of Dept. Q on May 29th, two days before the 2025 eligibility period ended. Therefore, it was eligible for this year's awards. It did, in fact, receive a single nomination--for Outstanding Original Main Theme Music, which it lost to The White Lotus.

OOh the WL won original theme?! The composer must be so happy, as he said "suck it" to Mike White and parted ways with him over creative differences.

I didn't see most of the shows that were nominated. Usually there are several I'm familiar with but not this time.

R142 Aww that’s such a nice story. Jake G is now the new 20 yr olds idol. Wow, the passage of time.

Marsden is remarkably handsome, holding up very well. Rudd is starting to fray.

Except, R187, Owen Copper is 15.

^Cooper

The 2025 Emmys posted their second consecutive gain in viewers, the first time that’s happened in more than a decade.

Sunday’s telecast on CBS (also live streamed on Paramount+ averaged 7.42 million viewers, according to preliminary Nielsen figures. That’s up 8 percent from the 2024 ceremony on ABC, which brought in 6.9 million viewers and stopped a streak of two straight all-time ratings lows for the Emmys.

As long as the talentless and annoying Elizabeth Banks is off our screens, I'm good.

R192 Never had an opinion one way or the other about Elizabeth Banks, but the lead-in to her award announcement at the Emmy's did come across as rather pompous.

I once saw her on a talk show, when an audience member who meant to be flattering, said she thought Banks and Parker Posey looked like sisters. She was speechless and blanched violently.

We hate Elizabeth Banks now?

Why?

I really just know her from Modern Family where she was hilarious.

No hate from me, I was just a little puzzled as to why her Emmy gag was meant to be funny.

thought Banks and Parker Posey looked like sisters.

R193 - also Rachel McAdams.

My lord. Jennifer Coolidge sure has gotten F A T!!! Wow.

Legally Bloated