Video of Italian man from Rome agreeing with Charlie Clark and asking what they should do in Europe is going viral

His name is Lorenzo and he made a follow up video after that one went viral because of all the death threats he received.

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Who is Charlie Clark and why does someone keep posting about him?

He looks like a Jersey Shore reject.

That first video screams AI.

Well he’s not from Jersey.

R5 only it’s real.

Something about this seems off, seems fake. The guy has a Hollywood Italian accent. It really does seem AI.

Only it’s real. And that’s what many Italians from Rome sound like speaking English.

The retard strikes again with an uneducated comment.

This shit is so fucking boring.

He made a lovely post in honor of Charlie Clark a couple of days ago. Here is his Instagram

How was it a "debate," when it was really just two dumb bitches telling each other "exaaaactlyyyy"?

Him shirtless.

Can we forgive him for being an Italian MAGA lover?

So he's a Buckeyes swim fan?

He probably doesn’t know all that r13 as he’s from Rome. He doesn’t live here. He travels here but wants to become a legal citizen.

Dumb. There are billions of people in the world but the poisonous voices are always the ones singled out by those seeking to manipulate others. Put him on ignore and move on with your lives. The future of society evolves forward, not backwards. These drips are always eventually left behind.

[quote] Can we forgive him for being an Italian MAGA lover?

No, Trump Cult membership is a mortal sin, and not to be forgiven except after extreme repentance and penance and a determination to never again engage in that sinful behavior.. Sorry, next.

None of you would kick him out of bed for eating pasta and dripping sauce/gravy all over the new white sheets. Hot man.

[quote]Can we forgive him for being an Italian MAGA lover?

What are Lorenzo's specific views? I'm not going to judge him without knowing the specifics, not vague generalities.

This doesn't seem right. Italian men are usually very open minded, tolerant and progressive.

American political terms don't necessarily mean the same things in Europe.

R19 has never been to Italy.

Idk where that lie stems from but it’s a LIE

He’s using it in American terms while in America. Please use your brain. I understand you’re uneducated and don’t have any college knowledge but it’s very simple.

R20 your lack of education is shining bright.

That’s not something to be proud of. You should feel ashamed.

[quote]This doesn't seem right. Italian men are usually very open minded, tolerant and progressive.

Italian’s are very much against mass immigration, the whole “woke” (for want of a better word) mindset. Etc.

In other words, they tend to be sensible and pragmatic.

^ excuse the typo.

The “problem” both he and Kirk are referring to everyone who isn’t a straight white male

[Quote] Italian’s are very much against mass immigration, the whole “woke” (for want of a better word) mindset. Etc.

Yes, they hate gay people

Idk why someone on DL loves claiming Italians are so progressive. They’re actually not in most of the country. They’re very traditional in views most times.

Many Italians want Italians in their country, meaning no one else. Many of them don’t even want people from the likes of Scandinavia there

Italian government has been working against gay people hardcore.

The Italian Tourism Board was sure quick to jump on here, telling us not to believe our lying eyes and ears about a video of Italian man from Rome agreeing with Charlie Clark that Europe is facing the same issue as America and wants to “Make Italy Great Again”.

First off, I hate when people say Europe is facing this or that. Not all of Europe is. Europe is a continent. Name the specific countries and/or cities. There are countries in Europe that have strict immigration laws and have been sticking to them. Not all European countries are allowing everyone in.

R30 not to mention the Italian man even praises JD Vance and says if he was American he would vote for him.

[quote]Many Italians want Italians in their country, meaning no one else. Many of them don’t even want people from the likes of Scandinavia there

European countries are not melting pots. Until very recently they have been ethnically homogenous with cultures going back thousands of years. They are not like the US.

Does OP ever acknowledge in this thread let alone excuse his complete dumbassitude for "Charlie Clark" this "Charlie Clark" that.

PS Lorenzo è super sexy, guarda quei capezzoli!

Mamma Mia! If I ever get a passport, I might have to travel to Italy. Sounds like my kind of place!

Bello Lorenzo !

Your resident American expat here in Italy. I lived in Rome for two years. The guy sounds authentically Italian speaking English. I found it interesting that Charlie so easily guessed Rome, as if he were a plant in the audience. It is the capital, so it's not much of a reach. But it just reminded me of fake psychic who plants people in the audience to ask questions but slips up revealing they know everything already.

Anyway. The Italian population is dying. Not enough young people are having babies. I know about five 30 something couples all in committed relationships for years, even have bought homes together, but not a single kid between them. If Meloni was obsessed with Italy for Italians, they should be creating more reasons for young Italians to stay and not go abroad looking for work. Having a kid shouldn't be so expensive and young people should have more opportunities.

Italy doesn't hate gay people. They don't care what you are as long as you get married and have kids - pretty much. There are so many men comfortable with other men and so many men that like the attention of other men. Roman culture is in their blood, so ultimately sex between men isn't looked at as some failure in your masculinity like it is in America. I am not saying it happens all the time. But there isn't this hyper-masculinity that chokes of the humanity in men. I have zero problems being gay here, never have. And it is pretty much assumed that the church is gay. That's where gay men go, into the church. And Italians surprisingly ARE NOT churchy. Swearing allegiance to God, Jesus and religion is much more American. It's odd to them. They are probably equal parts more superstitious than religious. But I have never known a single Italian who goes to church. Not one.

I do know that if that dude witness the murder, he was shocked as hell. Scared to death. That kind of shit does not happen here. He'll have an amazing story to take back to Rome about the crazy Americans and their guns. The violence in America for a first world country is unparalleled. And people here are not numb to it like we are. It is very unsettling for them.

How is it that these people spreading messages of hate like Charkie Kirk and Italiam Charlie Kirk, are claiming to be God gering- wearing cross necklaces etc Which God do they beleieve in??

R38 great fake story, posting from the states lmao

Charlie doesn’t say he’s from Rome, he asks Lorenzo “you’re from Italy?” And Lorenzo replies yes from Rome.

He is very clearly from Italy dear. Someone on twitter said he’s the most Italian looking Italian in the best ways and that’s true. He looks Italian and he sounds Italian so he’s probably Italian.

Lorenzo says “I am studying abroad from Italy for this semester”

Charlie asks “You’re from Italy?”

Lorenzo says “Yes from Rome”.

There is no conspiracy here. The dialogue is all there in the video. All one has to do is actually listen.

[quote] European countries are not melting pots. Until very recently they have been ethnically homogenous with cultures going back thousands of years.

Huh? Those thousands of years saw incessant movement of populations from one region to another. Even once the basic modern borders were established in the early Middle Ages, wars and famines and other events pushed groups around. Within countries there were always huge divisions of language, religion, etc. This myth of "homogenous" European countries was made up in the 19th century.

Oh look, another Charlie Clark thread.

And Europeans despise each other. If not for the threat of immigrant hordes, they'd be dropping bombs on each other. The present kumbaya, and moreover, the rightist calls for a "White" identity are completely anomalous and unlikely to be sustainable. Get rid of the immigrants and watch the next war start.

Issue is Europeans don’t view each other as one because they aren’t one. Americans love umbrella terms like white to make everyone under “white” sound like one people but that’s not real. In Europe, all over there too, they view people from certain parts of Europe as very different than them.

[quote]R38 great fake story, posting from the states lmao

Moron, that’s our resident ex-pat in Italy, who currently lives in Firenze. (?) (Bologna?)

What he says is valid.

R47 when do the lies stop?

r43 European countries are still not melting pots like the US is.

Thanks for coming to my defense R47. I was coming here to do the same. My bad on the Audio. I thought the Italian guy was just repeating what Charlie said. Anyway the rest of what I have to say is my true personal experience. I

And yes I am in Florence, Firenze.

No way to time stamp this but this was outside my window tonight. Noisy teenagers on a Friday night. And it’s 1:59 am here now.

Sure…. Lmao. Ridiculous

Sure, R49, most European countries don't have the openness to immigration that America—except for our long strain of nativism and xenophobia, which currently dominates the ruling party—does. But that European attitude isn't based on actual homogeneity. Like it or not, European countries *have* always been melting pots—maybe even more so than the US, given that the differences have melted down so well that people like you don't know about them.

r52 it's not the same, various tribes within the same region is not like a true melting pot culture.

UK, France, Switzerland seem extremely melting pot to me.

[quote]Can we forgive him for being an Italian MAGA lover?

Yes, if he comes to confession, and performs....penance.

What are "various tribes within the same region," R53? We're talking about European countries that over thousands of years have absorbed populations from different directions. Who are "the French"? "The Germans"? "The Italians"? "The Spanish"? They're all mixtures coming from different directions during antiquity and the Middle Ages and even since then.

r56 they weren't all that different from each other. The current situation in Euorpe is much, much different.

R54 UK and France or more diverse because they had colonies all over the world - India, Asia, Africa, the Americas, Caribbean and those people can movie freely within those tei countries. Switzerland seems to be a melting pot of Europe.

They are definitely not R43. They are extremely homogenous. I am black and live here in Florence. I know a handful of other black Americans but they are all women. I don’t think I’ve ever come across another black American male living here. There are African immigrants. Indians, definitely Asians. Actually Cinese is the word they use for corner stores. I have to get a shirt tailored and the woman told me go to the Cinese - the tailor shop, without batting an eye. Diversity here though is pretty much someone from Naples living in Tuscany. There is no birthright citizenship in Italy. So once a foreigner, always a foreigner unless you become a citizen - which takes ten years.

Btw, Italian men can be so pretty or masculine hot. The guy in the video doesn’t come close to the level of attractive you can see on the daily. And he’s definitely “amercanized” with a built body like that. Italians, if they are muscular, have bodies so right you wonder where their guts are. They aren’t for the most part hulking and muscle bound.

I took this out my same window r51 this June during the Calcio Storico - Rossi vs. Bianchi in piazza Santa Croce. My apartment door is right at the entrance gate for the Rossi.

The link, sorry.

R59 again, stop.

The sceptic has to just be trolling at this point.

R57, the "current situation in Europe" is not all that different from the mixture of Romans, Germanic speakers, Jews, Berbers, Arabs, and who knows who else that passes for "Spanish." And if you think that the Germans, Romans, and Celts that (with various other components) combined into English, French, and Italian really weren't all that different from each other, you should read up on what the people of the time had to say. This guy in OP's link who doesn't like migrants coming to Italy is himself a genetic product of peoples coming in from north, south, east, and west—he just doesn't like it happening now.

[quote]And he’s definitely “amercanized” with a built body like that. Italians

True. A jacked up body is actually sort of seen as gross. Italian men tend to be light above the waist but with good legs and ass. It's a soccer culture.

Oh and for the sceptic: I'm in the US now but have lived in Italy for nearly all of my adult life.

[quote]Italy doesn't hate gay people. They don't care what you are as long as you get married and have kids

True about the gay part. But in my Tuscan town I know sooo many unmarried straight men. If they're not married they're divorced. You'll also see groups of men out to dinner together. And there's no problem for two straight guys to go out to dinner together. You see it everywhere.

I lived as an out gay man in Italy and never had a problem socially or at work. People really don't care.

R64 lies lies lies. Get a job.

[quote]This guy in OP's link who doesn't like migrants coming to Italy is himself a genetic product of peoples coming in from north, south, east, and west—he just doesn't like it happening now.

His is a sentiment shared all over Europe.

R65 yeah, ok.

There are people all over Europe who get off on eating poop, r66.

The fact that it's a common sentiment doesn't mean that it's right or that the average person blames all their problems on immigrants. Anti-immigrant politicking is a collosal grift and most people aren't stupid enough to fall for it.

R67 how sad is your life you have to make up shit like that? Look at your posting history

R68 You're wrong. And your first sentence is ridiculous and has nothing to do with anything.

Why do you think Europe had veered so far to the right?

People do not want mass immigration from 3rd world countries.

Very cute but until he demurely shows taint he’s no balding slut Pietro Boselii

[quote]The Italian Tourism Board was sure quick to jump on here, telling us not to believe our lying eyes and ears about a video of Italian man from Rome agreeing with Charlie Clark that Europe is facing the same issue as America and wants to “Make Italy Great Again”.

Uh...tourism is booming in Italy. The Italian Tourism Board has no need to explain anything to anybody. BTW: Italians voted for right wing Giorgia Meloni and are happy with her and The Brothers of Italy.

Italians also want tourists to go away

That also sounds very progressive and tolerant.

R74 Explain to us why Italians should want to see their towns and cities overrun with mass tourism.

[quote] This doesn't seem right. Italian men are usually very open minded, tolerant and progressive.

Tossing bananas at black players on the football pitch is surely an enlightened humanitarian act.

Not to mention the majority of Italians (especially the men) voted in a SUPER conservative whose campaign ran on anti gay rhetoric

I love how Americans have created this fake reputation for Italians

Walk through Rome or Naples or Milan, especially in the evening and you will understand the sentiment. The Italians have been fucked over multiple times and mass immigration with professional gangs stealing your shit in broad daylight and molesting you and scamming you like in every European big city is not helping.

R76: what year did that incident happen, how many men were responsible and what were the consequences? Furthermore: what country is filled with your ideal of tolerant and progressive men?

Italy also made it where violence against gays can’t be considered a hate crime

R80 "Hate crime" is a contemporary American concept that the left tried to import to Italy and other European countries. In Italy crime is crime, no matter who it is directed against.

R81 My advice to you is to stay away from Italy. The country and it's culture is not for you. Don't go there. Stay in the USA.

Maybe Rome or Naples or Milan should be asking Trump to send in the National Guard?

The MIGA crowd here would welcome it with open arms.

R83 it isn’t for you either. You’re in the USA. Enough.

R84 The military already patrols Italian streets and has for decades.

Milan's homicide rate is 0.5 deaths per 100,000

Philadelphia (a city of comparable size) the homicide rate is 21.5 per 100,000 people

Gays shouldn't be paying 100,000 just to have a crying brat

[quote]I love how Americans have created this fake reputation for Italians

"Freedom House rates people’s access to political rights and civil liberties in 208 countries and territories through its annual Freedom in the World report. "

"Freedom in the World Score" 2025:

Italy ranks 89/100

USA ranks 84/100

.........

Reporters Without Borders (Reporters sans frontières)

Press Freedom in the world 2025:

Italy ranks 49th.

The USA ranks 57th.

R88 that has to do with A LOT MORE than gay rights, which is what is being discussed . Jesus you have no fucking media literacy or common sense.

Too fucking busy lying about living in Italy when you should be signing up for college courses or a job.

[quote]This doesn't seem right. Italian men are usually very open minded, tolerant and progressive.

[quote]Tossing bananas at black players on the football pitch is surely an enlightened humanitarian act.

There is a delusional subset of Americans who want to believe that Europe is a utopia and thus people there must be "very open minded, tolerant and progressive."

^ DL's bag lady strikes again.

R91 is meant for R89

When was Italy bad? I mean no place is perfect. I have a feeling his vision would make the place more chaotic than it is there, but I’m an ignorant American who knows nothing.

R79 Racial Bias in Fans and Officials: Evidence from the Italian Serie A

R19 What are you talking about? Italy is the most conservative country in the western Europe