Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner

If true, so living with a transgender partner is what caused him to murder that guy?

Seems a stretch, but the MAGAs will probably go there.

The New York Post is owned by NewsCorp and controlled by Murdoch and is considered tabloid trash.

I wouldn't put faith in this report until the mainstream media reports it with factual evidence.

And does it need to be said how reliable a source FOX News is?

If true at least he wasn’t an incel and got his freak on.

I call BS when the right wing media tries desperately to connect every tragedy to the demonized group du jour

R4 The incel to trans pipeline is a thing.

Trump has already moved on. When last given condolences for the loss of his great friend, he chattered on about the new ballroom he is building.

The messy truth about the assassin is not something the right can neatly use against Democrats so watch it go away quietly. This Post article seems like a last gasp attempt.

So much for the army Kirk’s death was expected to launch. If it goes on it will be despite the wishes of the Project 2025 gang, and the internecine warfare between the Fuentes and Kirk groups is a further headache for MAGA-types, which can only continue to get bad press for them as well as getting the point across to the average American that right wingers have left all semblance of reality behind them..

They just needed desperately to get this into the narrative. Even when totally discredited later, the brain rot crowd will believe it to be fact.

R2 [quote] I wouldn't put faith in this report until the mainstream media reports it with factual evidence.

If you believe everything one side reports, no matter which one, you are a perfect target to be radicalized by bullshit being spoonfed to you. Look at the state of the DL recently. All great people who think of themselves as having the moral high ground, who cheer when participants in the political discourse in a democracy get assassinated (but only on the other side of course). They also would have cheered for people to be taken to the Gulags and to be taken to the KZ "to learn how to work" because they had it coming. Who cheers for assassinations in a democracy is morally bancrupt.

This must be the "roommate" to whom Robinson sent incriminating messages about the shooting. He is helping the authorities.

r9, please don't bring both sidesism to a Klan rally.

More on what you've unleashed daily as I fight for control of my late husband's revenue stream. I mean "organizaton."

R7, we don't yet know "the truth" about this murder, but you're right that it will no doubt be messy. It's strange, then, that you are so adamant that you know the "truth" and are rushing to get out your narrative about internecine warfare on the right, despite there being nothing to indicate that there is any truth to that theory.

R11 you are proving the point I made. Who would you deport to the Gulag or ship to the KZ to learn their lesson?

I am not cheering on any killings. Least of all of internet social influencers like Charlie Kirk or Kylie Jenner. That said, it seems more like a Tupac vs. Biggie Smalls type killing than an assassination.

R15 So only two fellows who didn't get along, nothing political?

What are you basing that theory on, r15? Stuff you've read online by people who are anti-Kirk, know nothing about Tyler Robinson, have no access to the investigation and are basing it all on a hunch driven by their political views? Do you also agree with the related theory that Mossad was behind the killing?

Rival right wing factions of (primarily male) millennials who have been publicly beefing since 2019. It seems like Kirk may have had a restraining order of some sort out on Fuentes since Fuentes was not allowed at any of his events.

It’s more than not getting along, but less than a political assassination.

R1 I mean it deserves a conversation, Kirk was adamantly anti-trans. I don’t give a fuck about Charlie Kirk but I mean come on… I don’t do phoniness.

This is the roommates tik tok. Nothing about the content or his presentation indicates him to be trans

The New York Times article that talks about the Fuentes/Kirk feud, the publicly available Groyper playlist on Spotify which includes the song title engraved on one of the bullets, and articles like the one I am linking

Hmmmm. Reported by Murdoch controlled rag NY Post after it turns out the shooter comes from a conservative family.

Seems a touch convenient to me.

What does any of that - which is more rhetorical than real - have to do with Tyler Robinson, r18? Can you post a link to where Tyler Robinson stated his support for Fuentes? The Tyler Robinson who, according to a relative, said he opposed Kirk because he was full of hate, not because he didn't hate enough.

In other words, r21, you have nothing accept very weak supposition.

R20, I don't have TikTok so can't play the videos. There's not much to be gleaned from the thumbnails, though. How do you know this is the roommate?

I call BS they’ve been trying so hard to make this into a trans thing

By the way, r18, I don't have a particular theory on why Robinson did what he did and believe it would be better to wait for the evidence. But the little we know so far suggests he was what could be called a "misfit", a great student with a scholarship who for some reason dropped out of university after one semester, whose only publicly known comment on Charlie Kirk was that Kirk is full of hate. He also seems to trust his roommate a lot, and gave him information about what he did. He doesn't appear to have a strong social media presence.

And claims of political assassination are based on what exactly R24?

Engraving that obscure song title was a lot of work, and before for you start with some antifa ate my homework, killed Charlie Kirk and attacked the capitol, the killer doesn’t look like he smells. And having an antifa adjacent step-brother, let me just say I think poor hygiene is a prerequisite to belong to that group.

R20, I just read in the Daily Mail, which I can't look to, that the roommate is called Lance Twiggs, and that if indeed his TikTok.

I agree with r9- political assassinations have no place in a democracy, doesn’t matter how much you disagree with their views. This is not some Latin America banana republic in the mid 20th century. And using extreme language like describing political rallies as “klans meetings” only further sows discord. There’s a reason moderates are pulling away from the left and it’s because people are tired of being labeled as “fascist “ or a “white supremacist” for not agreeing with every far left fringe position. We need more balance in our society again.

Also Kirk-Fuentes-adjacent asshole Tommy Robinson is holding a rally today in London. White nationalist berserkers must be frustrated they can't whip this into a transatlantic Kristallnacht.

"Charlie Kirk is full of hate" is a battle cry of the groypers, the followers of Nick Fuentes who beefed heavily with CK the past few years. Those two groups really hated each other. Tupac vs. Biggie is apt.

The chances that Robinson was a part of that group, rather than radical-lefty Antifa (in rural Utah?) are fairly strong. If I were a betting person, that's where I'd go.

Quote from the Daily Mail, for what it's worth. Twiggs is not implicated in any way with what Robinson did.

[quote]It is unclear if Twiggs is the same person referenced in the reports and he has not been named in the affidavit. His grandfather, Jerry Twiggs, told the Daily Mail that he was unable to comment on rumors that he is trans and that there was a transgender motive to Kirk's murder. If there's any truth to the claim that Robinson was partly motivated to assassinate Kirk because of Kirk's views on trans-identified people, then it's nothing to do with his roommate.

[quote]'I don’t want to comment on that. I’m not sure what his situation is exactly right now,' he said, adding that he had never met Robinson.

[quote]The messy truth about the assassin is not something the right can neatly use against Democrats so watch it go away quietly. This Post article seems like a last gasp attempt.

I thought same. Trump etc. were salivating at the prospect of martyring CK just a day ago, screaming about suppressing leftists and threatening anyone with a negative opinion of him. Today, as the investigation in Utah progresses and they probably have inside knowledge of the shooter's actual leanings/beliefs, you hear crickets.

If they can't monetize or drum up support from CK's killing - which they can't, if it turns out to be an insider beef gone sideways - they'll drop CK (and his grasping widow) like hot potatoes.

The Fuentes-Kirk feud was certainly heating up again recently. This is from the end of August.

Caption under a photo in the linked Post article: "Tyler Robinson with a machine gun on April 16, 2003."

Great job!

[quote]This is the roommates tik tok. Nothing about the content or his presentation indicates him to be trans

I don't know if it's the roommate's TikTok, but the first thing I noticed was one of the videos showed the account owner is a furry. A furry joke was supposedly engraved on one of the bullets. Most of the videos are from 2023 and earlier, and OP's link says the roommate is currently transitioning, which makes it sound more recent than that.

Based on what little is known about the roommate so far, they've been fully cooperative and even provided the necessary evidence for law enforcement to seek the death penalty against Robinson. In other words, if Fox News is correct (which isn't something anyone should take for granted), a trans woman delivered justice for Kirk, whose (already weird) last words just got even weirder.

Everybody run! The tranny fuckers got a gun!

He isn’t even bad looking but his jaw and lips are so weird. Certain white people have that duck mouth. Two right wing cunts in one stone. One six feet under. The other in prison for life.

Maybe there was a viscous lover’s quarrel going on? Did Charlie dabble with gay activity?

^vicious

Sigh.

Tyler Robinson was autistic. The roommate - who he likely did not have a physical relationship with - was also autistic. They were probably compatible because autistic people get along better with each other than others. Autistic people are also 700 times more likely to identify as transgender or nonbinary. Autistic people are also more likely to be drawn to non traditional sexualities (BDSM, anime characters, furries, mermaids).

Tyler Robinson fits the pattern of an isolated autistic person with a deep inner world and black and white thinking. He was drawn into extreme right-wing 4chan/groyper culture and it reached the natural culmination in Kirk’s assassination.

I want to correct myself at r23 and r27. It was the family member who said that Kirk is full of hate, not Tyler Robinson, although Tyler seems to have been in agreement with the relative.

If your theory is true, r37, then Tyler killed Kirk to avenge his trans roommate.

Why isn’t Trump and Fox talking more about the radical right? Too inconvenient for their scapegoating?

If you’re going to commit a high-profile murder, the least you can do is leave a note explaining why.

This is 100% BS. His family confirmed he lives with them.

Leave it to the Post to publish this crap.

Whether or not this particular killing was trans-related or not (not enough evidence so far, photos of the roommate don't indicate he was trans) - why is the far right so hyper-fixated on connecting every violent incident to trans people or ideology? They are such a small % of the population, do they think the lot of them are all rabid killers, sitting around with guns learning to sharp-shoot?

They can’t openly hate gay people, as too many people don’t have a problem with gays or have relatives who are gay

So, trans is a very easy scapegoat for these fuckers. True trans is rare.

At one point he seems to have been living at an apartment (the parents have a house) in Washington, Utah. I couldn't locate dates for his residencies; the apartment/condo was the latest listed but, as said, the parents said he lived at their place.

The degraded "right" will use anything to cause harm. That's the inevitable playbook. R9 may be correct in an ideal world, but in this case there is a real difference between visions, tactics, responses, and the degree of abject falsehood involved.

I think it's very possible that IF Tyler had a trans girlfriend that could've radically affected his political identification.

[quote] He isn’t even bad looking but his jaw and lips are so weird.

His jaw reminds me of a porn star whose name currently escapes me.