The Daily Beast: "Charlie Kirk Sniper’s Ammo Has ‘Trans Ideology and Anti-Fascist’ Engravings: Cops"

The claim was made about some other previous shooting and turned out to be bullshit.

How convenient.

Yes it "could" be true, but it's probably not.

The shooter was probably hired by MAGA Inc. to create a false flag, and that's why he was allowed to get away. Now they can make up all kinds of bullshit like this.

[quote] The claim was made about some other previous shooting and turned out to be bullshit.

What are you referring to? In the last case, the perpetrator themselves made a video and posted it online showing the words they had written on the weaponry.

R1 is confusing cases.

I wonder if it could be someone from the Zizians group.

The suspect doesn’t look trans. And what is the meaning of that shirt he was wearing?

R6 nah, they're not competent enough to pull this off. And are there any still out on the streets?

The only “Trans” the shooter had an opinion on was Transjordan.

[Quote] What are you referring to? In the last case, the perpetrator themselves made a video and posted it online showing the words they had written on the weaponry.

MAGA has focused on trans for every mass shooting. There have been 4 trans implicated mass shootings in the last few years but over 1000 white straight men

If Kirk was hit because he was ranting about release the Epstein files, it seems obvious they are trying to copycat off the Minneapolis shooter. It's something they would do. Apparently Kirk had aspirations to run for POTUS and had a huge organization with "chapters" all over the country. I don't like violence. And this kind of shooting with all its political implications is very provocative because the sheeple who support Trump are going to assume it came from the Left. If this is promoted assome kind of Trans shooting, we are going to see widespread persecutions harassment and violence towards Gays and Trans.

R11, no, it won’t be gays. Trans are the ones they’re now debating banning getting guns.

Of you can't see that the accusation of the shooter being "trans" is part of the GOP's demonization of trans people and the obvious attempts by the right to incite violence, you're probably a huge neo-nazi shitstain.

Just riffing on what R11 said: if he was that popular and toying with the idea of running for POTUS, wouldn't Thiel and co. be interested in clearing the path for Jaydine?

Fuck.

Executive summary: bullshit.

Per Glenn Thrush, this is a claim in a "preliminary report cirulated within the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives."

"But a senior law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the investigation cautioned that report had not been verified by A.T.F. analysts, did not match other summaries of the evidence, and might turn out to be misread or misinterpreted. In fast-moving investigations, such status reports are not made public because they often contain a mixture of accurate and inaccurate information."

In other words, it's something ginned by the MAGA dimwits embedded in federal enforcements agencies and then improperly leaked.

The WSJ's claims have not been verified. The NYT has disputed them.

R16, link.

Of course the NYT disputes them. They’re a propaganda machine.

"Ah nyew it wuz them trannies!"

Trannies better pray it wasn’t them.

Isn’t it interesting how whenever there’s a school shooting the right says it’s a false flag operation as not to stir up talk of gun regulation.

When something bad happens to someone on the right we now say it was a false flag in order not to have to think about it too carefully.

Conspiracy ruins counter to common sense. I never thought we’d be so divided so that any common ground in the center is eliminated. We can’t go on like this.

Well, R22, their problem is that the left is grounded in facts, evidence, and science; the right is grounded in superstition, belief, and feelings. You're right, it can't go on like this, but not for the reasons you suggest. The right will eventually run face-first into facts, evidence and science (think of Covid) while the left will run face-first into the whirling blades of the right.

Runs* sorry.

Thanks for the kind reply, R23.

That someone found a gun and bullets in a nearby forest in Utah means nothing. You don't have to travel far or wide in Utah to find a hunting rifle, especially when planted near the scene of a political shooting in which one side really [italic]really[/italic] wants to implicate the other.

He called for gays to be harmed. He deserves no sympathy.

I hope one of them was "You GO, gurl!"

If true, I’m giving into my first impulse which is screaming inside job!

Only a MAGAT would be stupid enough to put messages on ammunition. It’s a set up and Kirk was a sacrificial lamb.

R18, DL isn't letting me post the link for some reason. If you have access to the NYT, look under the Live updates of the Charlie Kirk story.

You mean like "Love Is Love" and "Mean People Suck"?

R28 I think Charlie was a sacrifice as well to unite a divided base. I must say I was one who wasn't buying into the fakery of Butler, just because someone was actually killed. Now I am questioning all of that because blowing someone's head off just to get people to stop fighting over Epstein Files and come together in that mass rage that works so well seems completely plausible. Kirk and Fuentes, Turing Point USA and Groypers going at it. Charlie was either hit by the administration OR another far right extremist group.

Maybe the shooter is connected with one of those off grid militia groups in Idaho...he could be hiding out up there

Guys, Trump had him killed because he kept on him about the Epstein files.

Trump is having people killed for disloyalty.

Right, r33.

Actually, Kirk was an obedient servant on Epstein. He dropped it like a hot potato when it became clear that Trump was behind the cover-up.

He dropped it when Trump told him to.

OP is V8fairy.

Predictable & Tiresome

REALITY CHECK FOR OP AND ALL THE OTHER 'VIOLENT LEFT" SHILLS

REALITY CHECK FOR ALL THE" VIOLENT LEFT" SHILLS

The man who targeted and killed Democratic State Representative Mellissa Hortman was a Trump Supporter.

The man who targeted the home of Democratic Gov Josh Shapiro was a Trump supporter.

The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on Jan 6 were Trump supporters.

The man who targeted and killed the son of Obama appointed Judge Esther Salas was a Trump supporter.

The man who tried to kidnap Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband in their home was a Trump supporter.

The men who were convicted of trying to kidnap Gov Gretchen Whitmer were Trump supporters.

The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Obama & Biden was a Trump supporter.

There is no equivalent or even similar list of Obama or Biden supporters who have carried out similar murders,attempted murders or violent attacks.

R38 BTW They were ALL:

White

Not illegal immigrants.

NOT TRANS

This is false. It actually was engraved with the 2024 Democratic Party platform.

R40 Your are false, it was engraved with your 7 sock puppet VPN's

R41. Jesus. You are weird.

R42 Lord Jesus to you weirdo.

Turns out, that was a lie.

There were no "trans ideology engravings"

They made that up

R44, did you read what you linked to? It doesn’t say that. There’s a guy only guessing what law enforcement is looking at.

R44, what a shocker that a MAGA-infiltrated FBI would grab at the flimsiest false pretext for blaming The Trans, fixate on it and hastily leak it out to the media.

r45, do you have common sense? Do you really think the shooter was sitting around engraving "trans ideology" on a bullet? It never made sense, people were eager to believe it because they love to scapegoat minorities

[quote] do you have common sense? Do you really think the shooter was sitting around engraving "trans ideology" on a bullet?

But you have no problem accepting that Luigi engraved his bullets? How was Luigi so much more capable to do engraving than this unknown murderer?

Oh, look, the Wall Street Journal is walking back their bullshit story

I heard it was engraved with a password that opens the secret basement door of Comet Pizza.

So far the FBI has arrested not one but two people who had no connection to the crime, plus they can’t recognize a manufacturer’s stamp on a bullet. We’ll all sleep soundly tonight I’m sure.

[quote] the Wall Street Journal is walking back their bullshit story

That’s not what the clips stated in the tweet you linked to. The WSJ added an update to the story, stating the some officials later in the day cautioned against reaching conclusions from the preliminary report. That’s standard law enforcement language.

They're blaming "The Left" and they don't even have a suspect in mind let alone in custody.

They sound like some of our trolls always using "The Left" as their boogeyman with no evidence. Weird coincidence I'm sure.

[quote] the left is grounded in facts, evidence, and science; the right is grounded in superstition, belief, and feelings

Are there facts, evidence and science which demonstrate that a person can be born in the wrong body?

Dear God. The anti trans loons have entered.

How does one say "Deer in the Headlights" in Hindi?

R54 I could have had a V8fairy ...7 of em.

^ and they'd all be as nuts.

Well here we have a situation where mainstream media is competing with online independent media and it’s going to backfire on them.

Megyn Kelly went on an anti-trans tirade over this rumor. I wouldn’t trust anything she puts out but people do. People also subscribe to her propaganda so I expect lies and bullshit to come out of her.

People are fed up with the lack of integrity of mainstream media and trying to compete with the renegades of online media just isn’t going to work.

R59 Whoring for mouse clicks.

R52, that's the language you use when you've been busted pushing lies. I bet Kash or some right-wing freak was their "source"

All this talk about Charlie Kirk's kids will grow up without a father.

Yeah well, Charlie Kirk had a responsibility to society and to his kids to help create a more civil society. He did not do that. Kirk had a responsibility to keep his children safe. But instead, he did the exact opposite. He contributed to a world of hate and put himself in danger--thereby also creating an unstable and unsafe world for his children. Kirk advocated stoning gays to death. When Paul Pelosi was nearly killed because some whacko broke into his house and attacked him with a hammer--and what did Charlie Kirk do? He called Paul Pelosi's attacker a "patriot" and offered to pay the attacker's bail.

No, Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be killed. But Charlie Kirk was vile scum. Good fucking riddance to Charlie Kirk always hiding behind "his lord and savior Jesus Christ" while spewing hate.

Almost as if it were choreographed. Hmmm.

WTF is “trans ideology” and how do you engrave it in a 2 inch piece of metal?

Also, trying to engrave anything into a metal tube full of explosive seems inadvisable.

Don't forget republicans have funded the trans ideology, specifically Kaitlyn Jenner and Jennifer Pritzker, the latter was McCain's campaign finance manager in 2008

US officials have issued an urgent appeal for help from the public as they continue to search for the shooter of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, releasing new videos and photos from the scene of the attack in Utah.

Suspected shooter is seen clearly leaving the scene