Trump says federal troops are headed to Chicago: "We're Going In"

Trump’s comments come after he repeatedly targeted California Gov. Gavin Newsom, Maryland Gov. Wes Moore, and Illinois' JB Pritzker, all Democratic governors who have been outspoken against him and are possible 2028 presidential candidates.

The president later referred to Chicago ‒ and also Baltimore ‒ each as a "hell hole."

At least eight people were killed and another 50 people were injured in shootings across the city over the weekend, according to Chicago Police Department data. Trump referenced the deadly holiday weekend, calling Chicago "the worst and most dangerous city in the World, by far," in a post on Truth Social.

"Pritzker needs help badly, he just doesn’t know it yet," said Trump, who has publicly rebuffed Trump's advances to send in troops. "I will solve the crime problem fast, just like I did in DC. Chicago will be safe again, and soon. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

The president later followed up with another Truth Social post proclaiming, "CHICAGO IS THE MURDER CAPITAL OF THE WORLD!" It is not known when the president could send in the troops.

During the Oval Office briefing, Trump said all that Pritzker has to do is call him. “I’d be honored to take his call," Trump said. "All (Pritzker) has to do is say, ‘Sir, we need help, it’s out of control.’ Everyone knows it is. He’s not kidding anyone."

But Pritzker quickly pushed back on the president's comments, telling reporters during his own briefing in Chicago on Sept. 2, "No, I will not call the president, asking him to send troops to Chicago. I've made that clear already."

The weekend violence comes as Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson signed an executive order on Aug. 30 that he said lays out "how we can stand up against this tyranny." The mayor said the Chicago police would not assist the National Guard with immigration enforcement or related activities such as conducting traffic stops and manning checkpoints, according to the order

"This president is not going to come in and deputize our police department," Johnson said at the Aug. 30 news conference.

Chicago reported 278 homicides in 2025, according to city data. However, Chicago has experienced a remarkable drop in gun violence so far this year, with a 37% drop in shootings compared to this same period last year and 60% versus 2021, the city's data cited.

Vice President JD Vance, in an exclusive interview last week with USA TODAY, said Trump isn’t planning a long-term military occupation of American cities such as Chicago, but added the National Guard troops will need enough time to reduce crime.

"We don't want indefinitely to put National Guardsmen on the streets of our cities. We just want to make those streets more safe," said Vance on Aug. 27.

Maya Wiley, president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, the nation's oldest civil rights group, told USA TODAY the president and his administration are targeting places such as Chicago and Baltimore because of their success in turning the corner on shootings and homicides.

"The lies about crime, which are very racialized, and we should acknowledge it as such," Wiley said. "There's a lot of racist tropes in even the suggestion of where there are public safety concerns and where there are not."

Trump previously threatened to send troops to Chicago, just as he did in Washington, DC and Los Angeles. Meanwhile, Chicago was also bracing for a federal immigration enforcement operation.

"This isn't a political thing".

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[quote]The president later referred to Chicago ‒ and also Baltimore ‒ each as a "hell hole."

Trump won't stop until he's turned the entire country into a hell hole. He's well on his way.

If they do go in, they won't be sent to the South Side. Trump jackbooted thugs will just be meandering up and down Michigan Avenue.

R3 I'm not sure Chicago needs help with that.

[quote] If they do go in, they won't be sent to the South Side. Trump jackbooted thugs will just be meandering up and down Michigan Avenue.

Exactly.

It's all for show.

They can start by demolishing the projects and razing every gang-infested area.

As Chicago’s foremost urban criminologist, R7, have they approached you seeking consultation?

N.B. HOUSTON has a higher crime rate than Chicago

side note: I wonder where they're billeting all these NG troops they're shipping in from all over? I'll bet that's some side grift they've got going: someone house to house, feed, care for these people and don't you want to bet some MAGA crony is getting rich off these little "deployments"? That's probably what most of this is about too: directing government $$ for a service that no one wants

Cunt.

[quote] I wonder where they're billeting all these NG troops they're shipping in from all over? I'll bet that's some side grift they've got going: someone house to house, feed, care for these people and don't you want to bet some MAGA crony is getting rich off these little "deployments"?

It's all in Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill."

Or, Big Beautiful Billion, I should say.

Now you know why he wanted it passed so quickly, and why he essentially forced all Republicans to vote for it.

Contracts are going out to all of Trump's cronies, and he gets a cut.

Meanwhile, he can afford to pay the National Guard lots of overtime.

And he's offering a $50,000 signing bonus to ICE Agents, all thanks to the BBB.

Being offered is 1 thing, being paid is another. It never it's bills.

It had outside rallies and was vulnerable to assassination because it stiffed so many vendors it could not secure any other venue.

“They should demolishing the projects!” R7 , clearly not a native. They already did that.

His administration is working to normalize military operations directed at civilians.

Damn! Damn! Damn!

Fight back.

Start causing crime in the unattended red cities.

It’s all theatrics for his low-IQ plebe cultists. “Fixed” DC? But didn’t send a single troop beyond the Anacostia? And just as R4 said, they’ll be marching around The Loop, but not one will be spotted in Englewood. Theatrics.

How about banning semi-automatic weapons like every other civilized country has done?

Oh wait, we can't do that because people's freedoms.....

We have some vichy gay Chicagoans here who are hoping they will clear out the elaborate tent cities that have sprung up in Lincoln Park from Diversey north to Foster. This kind of attitude, and the permissive attitude of our dreadful Mayor Brandon Johnson who allowed these encampments gives me no hope this horrific dictatorial power grab will be thwarted.

I mean, I’d love it if the “troops” came to my neighborhood in NYC and picked up the trash and dog shit. That’d be a great start.

Can’t you see he’s just doing this to distract from the Epstein news. Now that some of the Epstein victims plan on releasing names, brace yourself.

[quote]How about banning semi-automatic weapons like every other civilized country has done?

The uncivilized have taken over and the firearm free for all will continue as long as they are in control.

Baton Rouge has a higher crime rate than Chicago.

It’s also likely poorer, fatter and less educated.

Going by Trump logic, any high crime city located in a red state should be allowed to remove the official responsible for gathering statistics and replace them with someone who will confirm that blue cities in blue states are the only true "hell holes" in the country.

Red cities with awful planning, mediocre education systems, dominance of religion in culture, racial disparities, poorer health outcomes. Why the hell do we give deference to people who just make things worse?

The worst president in US history. That's how he will be remembered which comforts me.

And he’s a child molestor who allegedly diddled his own kid.

He’s starting to look a bit like John Candy.

A soulless, evil, humorless, stupid, deranged, unimaginative, morally bankrupt John Candy.

John Candy might have pulled off a good impression of DJT.

God bless John Candy. Forgive me for sullying his memory by putting him adjacent to this fat fucking tool.

r23, you're a Nazi. "I mean, I’d love it if the “troops” came to my neighborhood in NYC and picked up the trash and dog shit. That’d be a great start." is a terrible attitude.

Who's running the show when Donald is resting? It's getting kind of bizarre, or more so. The three axis of evil together for the epic photo op was very historic, much to his disappointment and our terror. At this rate, I just see us going down a dark path unless he is stopped. Without any limits on his power, including Congress or the Supreme Court, it's going to end in riots or worse. I wonder if the people in Washington even are aware. They seem out of touch on committees.

Trump is insane.

R4 I bet they will.

Even though I don’t like Trump you gay libbies of these cities should welcome this. Now you can leave pubs and bars in Boystown without being carjacked.

Drop dead Trump, please.

Trump is the most stupid president in history. It hurts to know this and is dangerous. "Any way the wind blows doesn't really matter to me."

In classic TACO fashion, he's now backing down on Chicago, thanks to some tough talk from Governor Pritzker, and talking about New Orleans instead.

He always overdoes it. Overkill. That dumbass is worrying about Chicago, while Putin, and Xi and North Korea are prancing around holding hands. Once Putin got his big boost from his visit with Trump who is now doing next to nothing to defend NATO and Ukraine, Vlad and his allies think they can wrap it up soon and crush Ukraine. This theater of Trump's is a complete disgrace. I cannot believe the rest of the world is allowing the United States to fail like this. It's in their interests to try to stop him. And how the fuck can corporate America allow him to fuck up with the Tariffs? And where the fuck is Big Pharma when we need them? They cannot possibly be OK with what RFK is doing?

I hate him and that's not going to change. Ever. We Americans shouldn't have to endure this misery because he cheated. RIGGED!

People in Chicago have guns and my prediction is that they'll start shooting at whoever Trump sends in.

I imagine that is what Trump is trying to instigate and I'm afraid he'll get it.

I predict Trump has pushed Americans too far and some regular, generally law-abiding citizens are gonna start using their "2nd Amendment remedies".

I’m thinking the exact same thing r43.

Yeah they are definitely hoping they will get resistance and blowback and then they can violently quell it to send a very definitive message.

This is happening because Trump has been watching James Cagney movies.

[quote]I predict Trump has pushed Americans too far and some regular, generally law-abiding citizens are gonna start using their "2nd Amendment remedies".

I say your prediction is wrong. If anyone shoots at the National Guard they won't be the "law abiding" citizens of Chicago.

Okay R33. Sure, Jan 🙄

Amazing how Trumpers love Brady Bunch references. See R48 and the constant use of "Russia, Russia, Russia".

I feel like the reason is that they're all so fucking old.

[quote]Baton Rouge has a higher crime rate than Chicago.

To all the people who keep going on about red cities having more crime than blue cities, newsflash, Democrats rarely arrest/prosecute anymore, so it gives the illusion that crime has gone down.

In reality, Dems are turning a blind eye and refusing to report, but it doesn't mean that crime isn't happening or hasn't gotten worse.

Sure, Jan/R49.

So basically, R50 knows better. She knows - just KNOWS - that there is tons of crime out there that the Liberal Elite doesn't want you to know about. And that police departments and the FBI and the entire law enforcement infrastructure of the USA is so riddled with lying liberals that you can't trust their statistics. If only the NYPD or the FBI had brave conservatives on staff who'd tell the TRUTH!

Here is a list of cities with more than 100,000 residents that have higher crime rates than Chicago, per the FBI. And yes, they are all blue cities.

Birmingham, Alabama (58.8)

St. Louis, Missouri (54.1)

Memphis, Tennessee (40.6)

Baltimore, Maryland (34.8)

Detroit, Michigan (31.2)

Cleveland, Ohio (30)

Dayton, Ohio (29.7)

Kansas City, Missouri (27.6)

Shreveport, Louisiana (26.8)

Washington, D.C. (25.5)

Richmond, Virginia (24.2)

South Fulton, Georgia (22.2)

Cincinnati, Ohio (21.8)

Louisville, Kentucky (21.7)

Indianapolis, Indiana (20)

Oakland, California (18.6)

Albuquerque, New Mexico (18.4)

Montgomery, Alabama (18.1)

Minneapolis, Minnesota (18)

Lancaster, California (17.7)

Little Rock, Arkansas (17.6)

Hartford, Connecticut (17.6)

Trump claims to be going to Chicago to curb crime but the military order leaked by Ken Kiippensten states they're there to protect ICE. This is an ICE operation. They won't be going near the Black high crime areas.

Trump wants very much to declare martial law. Look at the huge budget he has proposed for ICE and "immigration enforcement." They will be building more detention centers. What's happening right now isn't even a dress rehearsal for what we will see in another year. BTW: Kiss free, fair elections good bye. Won't be seeing them anymore.

R8, are you on crack? Baltimore and Chicago are shitholes.

[quote] Baltimore and Chicago are shitholes.

Where do you live? When was the last time you went to either place? What are you basing this on?

R33 Is that list specifically for violent crime?

"We're going in" is the same thing he said about grabbing the pussies of teenage beauty pageant contestants.

R53 Do those cities you listed have mass shootings virtually every weekend like Chicago. In Chicago and recently in the Bronx gunfire erupts on the street with many innocent people being shot or killed.

[quote] This kind of attitude, and the permissive attitude of our dreadful Mayor Brandon Johnson who allowed these encampments gives me no hope this horrific dictatorial power grab will be thwarted.

He's not sending troops to Chicago to help anyone feel safer or more comfortable. Your 'dreadful' Mayor will soon be your champion.

A better way to prevent crime is to pay people a decent wage for their work so they have a stake in being cooperative and part of the community.

[quote]The worst president in US history. That's how he will be remembered which comforts me.

History will not be kind to him or the people who supported him, which I'm fine with. No amount of MAGA whitewashing will ever be able to give him the legacy of being even a decent president. He fucked up any chance of that on January 6, 2021 and that's not even counting the bullshit he's doing now. Hell, he could bring peace to the Middle East and the first line in history books would still mention him being the first president to deny the results of a fair election and the subsequent attempt to prevent a peaceful handover of power.

The crime stats debate is entirely irrelevant, so I don't know why people get into that debate.

Trump has no business going into Chicago even if the crime stats were as bad as the claim. THAT Is the relevant part.

Cities have officials that are elected by the local community. If you want a mayor that cracks down on crime, vote for one. If the candidate you wanted lost, that's democracy. You don't get to have the federal government come in and takeover your city because of local crime problems. That's not how any of this is supposed to work.

R60 Agreed. Chicago is a special case.

[Quote] A better way to prevent crime is to pay people a decent wage for their work so they have a stake in being cooperative and part of the community.

Does that include gang members? I feel like many of the shootings that we're reading about in Chicago and in New York are gang related.

from ABC 7 NY:

Four of the alleged gang members were already in police custody and the other eight were arrested on Aug. 28.

Katz says Labor Day weekend was quiet in terms of gun violence and there is a direct correlation to the gang takedown.-

[quote]A better way to prevent crime is to pay people a decent wage for their work so they have a stake in being cooperative and part of the community.

And how much should that minimum wage per hour be to "prevent crime"?

When people see rich powerful connected bastards commit crimes and get away with it, they lose respect for the law and they honestly do not have anymore fucks to give. You want to lower crime, create jobs, pay people a living wage, and start living up to the comical bullshit we spout about "No one is above the Law."

[quote]You want to lower crime, create jobs, pay people a living wage

You think those hood-rat thugs shooting up Chicago are going to get up in the morning, arrive to work on time, get along with their co-workers, take directions and criticism from their boss, learn from their mistakes, and all the other qualities you have to have to hold down a job?

They may not be old enough to join the workforce.

'Historically, there have been violent incidents at the parade, including in 2024 when one man was killed and four people were injured in what police said was a gang-related shooting.

The NYPD issued its largest deployment of the year Monday with 2,500 officers surged into Brooklyn. There were 13 security checkpoints at the parade, and spectators were screened with handheld metal detectors.

Mayor Eric Adams released a statement on the violence, saying in part, "Last night's violence in Brooklyn during the West Indian Day Parade is a painful reminder that even one shooting is one too many. We will not allow the reckless actions of a few to overshadow the vibrant culture and joy of this celebration or the progress we've made in making our city safer."

According to the NYPD, overall crime has gone down since the beginning of the year. In Brooklyn, there's a 14% decline in shooting incidents compared to the same time last year.

But Public Advocate Jumaane Williams says, "Data means nothing to the people who were shot."

"They don't want to just hear data," he added. "They want their loved ones and their communities to stop dealing with this violence."

and yet 7 people were shot, one fatally and 2 people slashed. Even with all the preparation the event was more violent than last year's.

R69 Yes many will. There will be some that won't but many will.I have been al over this world and seen many places. Most people are good and want to cooperate and be helpful.They want to be liked respected and appreciated. The vast majority will respond positively to these actions. Actually A few bad apples do most of the damage in this world. If we could only develop a behavioral immune system that worked to prevent the Trumps and Stalins . However in my opinion, As it is, A chaotic mess is still better than ridgid order.

[quote]In reality, Dems are turning a blind eye and refusing to report, but it doesn't mean that crime isn't happening or hasn't gotten worse.

Thanks for the news flash from Truth Social, which, incidentally, has no relation to reality.

The city is still that bad?

R72 We're not talking about the Sharks and the Jets from West Side Story.

R74, apparently this is no longer of interest to Trump, so he’s thinking about invading New Orleans, a blue city in a red state. I expect we’ll see a lot of Guardsmen taking selfies on Bourbon Street.

R72 has been to Nice and the Isles of Greece, and sipped champagne on a yacht. But has she been to her? And if so, was she a bad apple, or a chaotic mess?

[quote]As it is, A chaotic mess is still better than ridgid order.

Describe your neighborhood, R72.

The word here in Chicago is that the feds will come to assist ICE but the DC-style mobilization promised earlier is going elsewhere.

I still don't have a fucking clue why crime stats or chaos vs. order debate have anything to do with this. City crime is a matter for the city and its people to care about and solve. Maybe to some extent the state. The President has nothing to do with something that local. I think it's legitimizing his power grab to even talk about these irrelevant issues.

I Do WhAt i WaNT!

-King Dementia

Exactly, R80. This is all for show. He cares about one thing and one thing only, himself.

I bet those are the same words Melania hears from him when she has to give it up.

If Pritzker puts words to actions, we could be seeing IL national guard defending Chicago from Texas National Guard.

Civil War 2025 here we come!

TRUMP: Chicago, I'm inside of you.

CHICAGO: RAPE! RAPE! SOMEONE CALL 911!

[quote]I bet those are the same words Melania hears from him when she has to give it up.

You just know the sight of that cocklet disgusts her.

I really kinda don't wanna know, but I'd bet good money that shithead hasn't been able to get it up since the Reagan administration.

Trump: why fight crime when you can commit it?

R72 for someone who's supposedly worldly, your whole post is very naive. Also, your last sentence is insane:

[quote]However in my opinion, As it is, A chaotic mess is still better than ridgid order.

This is why Democrats are losing credibility and people are not taking them seriously anymore.

You can deny all you want, but liberal blue cities are collapsing because of soft-on-crime policies, rampant homelessness, and overall civil disorder. Most Americans don't want the rest of the country like that.

The Democrats' socialist experiment has been disastrous and will keep them out of power for as long as they stay far-left, which seems to be indefinitely.

Even if that were true, it's up to the voters in those cities to handle the problem. If they keep electing people who don't handle the "problems", then too bad. That's called democracy. And we live in a country where the division between city, state, and federal all matter. The President has no fucking role here. If voters in Arkanfuck want San Francisco to crack down on innocent homeless people, that's too fucking bad.

TACO…yet again. No guts, no glory.

[quote]If voters in Arkanfuck want San Francisco to crack down on innocent homeless people, that's too fucking bad.

Arkanfuck is hilarious. Might as well call the capital, Little Cock.

[quote]liberal blue cities are collapsing because of soft-on-crime policies, rampant homelessness, and overall civil disorder. Most Americans don't want the rest of the country like that.

They are not collapsing, but what we see here in Chicago is jarring. The tent cities and our tax dollars going, not to permanent housing, but expensive tents and a coddling of living in our public spaces where we would be ticketed and fined if we wandered in after 10:30 pm. Or the lack of any police investigative support after a burglary or mugging.

A lot of the points in this thread are overstating the case, but even among my liberal friends there is some support for a reset - yet Trump's plan will not be reversible and many people don't seem to realize the danger we're in as a result.

R89 no one has taken advantage of the Law and been an advocate for leniency regarding crime, more than Trump. He is a fucking convicted criminal and yet there he is in the White House destroying as much of our country as he can.

[quote]The Democrats' socialist experiment has been disastrous...

Oh. Where exactly has the Democratic Socialist experiment been happening? What governors, representatives and Senators are in office making this happen? I am unaware of any.

LIberal blue cities are committing suicide by their housing policies. The homeless camps (to the extent they exist) are a direct outgrowth of how expensive housing is. Build more housing, lower housing costs. More people move there. More political power.

Crime has been down in DC since he sent in the National Guard. Why not try it in Chicago to see if it yields similar results? What could it hurt?

R97 is right! There's practically no crime in Pyongyang!

Neville Chamberlain has entered the chat at r97! Hiya, Nev...

[Quote] Crime has been down in DC since he sent in the National Guard. Why not try it in Chicago to see if it yields similar results? What could it hurt?

We cannot normalize this. The President shouldn’t just be able to make up a crisis and send in federal troops to an American city.

Violent crime in DC has been at a 30 year low in DC—so these troops are arresting very very low level crimes like smoking pot in public and have also been tasked with spreading mulch and gardening in the Mall area of DC. We’re paying for all of this nonsense.

[Quote] Crime has been down in DC since he sent in the National Guard.

Crime was down before he sent in the troops

[Quote] The Democrats' socialist experiment has been disastrous..

You mean like social security and Medicare?

[quote]We cannot normalize this. The President shouldn’t just be able to make up a crisis and send in federal troops to an American city.

I will admit that I am more conservative on crime prevention and policing, but I agree that we should not normalize it, but at the same time, something needs to be done. A lot of major cities' response to George Floyd was to tie the hands of the police, and look what happened.

[quote] Violent crime in DC has been at a 30 year low in DC

I am not certain that those statistics are accurate. (Not that you've posted something incorrectly) I just think certain crimes are going under-reported to fit a particular narrative. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

[quote]We cannot normalize this.

What we have normalized is out of control crime rates.

What we have normalized is 58 people shot over a weekend in Chicago. And look up any weekend. Pick any weekend and Google "Chicago shootings" and see.

Any civilized country would in fact be sending in a military back up.

[quote]Violent crime in DC has been at a 30 year low in DC

That means nothing when the violent crime rate is the highest of any other country's capital.

1,006 violent crimes per 100K people (2024)

3,693 property crimes per 100K people (2024)

^ What should not be normalized, are those kind of numbers.

[quote]Crime was down before he sent in the troops

"Compared to the US average, the violent crime rate in 2024 in Washington, DC was 180% higher, and its rate of property crime was 109.8% higher."

So, r104, what is your plan to get Trump to de-escalate this deployment and not further mis-use it for his own purposes... and soon? Or does the U. S. Constitution not matter until it affects YOU?

R104, most First World countries have gun control laws. If you can't control gun trafficking you'll get a lot of crime. The free availability of U.S. guns also enables gun violence in Mexico.

[quote]Or does the U. S. Constitution not matter until it affects YOU?

Speak to the people who have to live in these areas with absurdly high crime rates. Tell us about where you live.

BTW: The DC deployment ends on the 10th.

From there, DC with continue to cooperate with federal law enforcement.

R105, Trump is a loose cannon and will do whatever he wants. We know this. I'm tired of worrying about what Trump MAY do. We have a serious problem in major cities right now, and it appears that sending in the National Guard has helped. None of this is ideal, but we can't keep putting our heads in the sand about this.

R106 We do need stricter gun control laws, but I'm not sure that is the panacea that some seem to think it is.

[quote]most First World countries have gun control laws. If you can't control gun trafficking you'll get a lot of crime. The free availability of U.S. guns also enables gun violence in Mexico.

Those gun control laws also include tactics that would never fly in the US.

I can't speak for all Euro countries, but Italy with its low crime rate allows stop-and-frisk. Also vehicles can be stopped and searched at any time at the whim of police. Try that in the US.

The problem is not the registered gun owners. The problem is illegal gun ownership and guns coming in from other countries, especially. Eastern Europe.

Also, as in France, the military can be and is used to patrol the streets.

[quote]Crime has been down in DC since he sent in the National Guard. Why not try it in Chicago to see if it yields similar results? What could it hurt?

What a gullible little retard you are. It’s down because Trump bleats it’s down? Which categories? By how much? Compared to when? What is the target? The NG isn’t even in the areas with the highest crime rates! I really hate useful idiots like you.

[quote]Crime has been down in DC since he sent in the National Guard. Why not try it in Chicago to see if it yields similar results? What could it hurt?

Correct.

NBC News - Aug. 27, 2025:

"Mayor Muriel Bowser says Trump's surge of federal law enforcement has lowered crime in D.C."

""We greatly appreciate the surge of officers that enhance what MPD has been able to do in this city," Bowser, a Democrat, told reporters about the expansion of federal law enforcement and its partnership with the Metropolitan Police Department."

"Carjackings, she said, were the "most troubling" crime that plagued D.C. in 2023, and they have decreased in recent years. Bowser said that in the 20 days since the federal takeover, there has been an 87% drop in carjackings compared with the same period last year. The data cited also showed a 15% fall in crime overall in the district during the same period last year."

"We know that when carjackings go down, when use of guns goes down, when homicide or robbery go down, neighborhoods feel safer and are safer, so this surge has been important to us," said Bowser, who added that she has been personally engaged with Attorney General Pam Bondi and White House chief of staff Susie Wiles."

[Quote] What we have normalized is out of control crime rates. What we have normalized is 58 people shot over a weekend in Chicago. And look up any weekend. Pick any weekend and Google "Chicago shootings" and see.

Chicago isn’t even in the top 10 most dangerous places in the US for crime per capita. If Trump really cared about fixing crime, he’d send troops to Louisiana and Mississippi. Plus, there is no evidence that crime goes down when you increase policing. Instead police over police’s ticketing and arresting people for petty crimes

[Quote] Mayor Muriel Bowser says Trump's surge of federal law enforcement has lowered crime in D.C.

She wants to keep her job. What do you think she’ll say. None of this is sustainable.

Want to reduce crime? Bring down wealth disparities. THAT is the cause of crime and the only want to fix it.

[quote]She wants to keep her job. What do you think she’ll say. None of this is sustainable.

Are you claiming the figures she's citing are false?

[quote]She wants to keep her job.

Oh, in other words she wants the support of the residents of the city and wants to be re-elected.

[quote]Want to reduce crime? Bring down wealth disparities.

Yeah, right.

[quote]She wants to keep her job. What do you think she’ll say. None of this is sustainable.

She is a Democrat, saying this in a majority democratic city. She is not toeing the party line here and will probably end up primaried.

[quote]Want to reduce crime? Bring down wealth disparities.

OFFS.

Baltimore

The Wire went easy on Baltimore. None of us would ever walk the streets of Baltimore outside of a few tourist areas without a police escort. . I really feel for the people that have to live there. Very dangerous place.

But I am a fan. I do love that city.

[Quote] Are you claiming the figures she's citing are false?

Sure, for a week crime went down. Long term, this never works.

Statistics for right after an intervention is rarely a long term gauge

[Quote] She is a Democrat, saying this in a majority democratic city. She is not toeing the party line here

If she doesn’t say something positive, Trump will get her back somehow. She just stated facts for the present. She also has federal troops roaming through her streets.

When there’s a real emergency, this gives Trump Permission to do whatever he wants

This is just like “Shock and Awe” in Iraq. Short-term, it seemed like an effective strategy. Long-term, we run with our tail between our legs

There is NO reason for Trump to be doing this. It doesn't matter if crime rates are up. This is not an area for the President to be involved with. That's basic civics. And the MAGAt in here acting like it's the crime rates that are the issue is infuriating. Your support for a tyrannical dictator will not be forgotten.

[quote]If she doesn’t say something positive, Trump will get her back somehow.

She wants a new football stadium to be her legacy. Trump would be happy to scuttle that somehow if she doesn't play ball.

[quote]Sure, for a week crime went down. Long term, this never works. Statistics for right after an intervention is rarely a long term gauge

I asked: "Are you claiming the figures she's citing are false?"

Answer the question. The correct answer is: the figures she's citing are true.

Whether the results will have a long term impact is another discussion on which we can only speculate. She has stated that DC will continue to work with Federal agencies.

[quote]It doesn't matter if crime rates are up.

Maybe it's this kind of thinking that is the real problem.

"We're going in" is what Donald and Alan Dershowitz used to say when about to spit roast a 13-year-old.

[Quote]We do need stricter gun control laws, but I'm not sure that is the panacea that some seem to think it is.

we need world peace as well as gun restrictions in the US

I wonder which one we will see first.

[Quote] Maybe it's this kind of thinking that is the real problem.

Then why stop at invading a city with the Federal Guard? Why not actively bomb neighborhoods? That’ll stop crime too

[Quote] I asked: "Are you claiming the figures she's citing are false?" Answer the question. The correct answer is: the figures she's citing are true.

The correct answer is “It doesn’t matter.”

[Quote] We do need stricter gun control laws, but I'm not sure that is the panacea that some seem to think it is.

Shouldn’t we give it a try?

[Quote] we need world peace as well as gun restrictions in the US. I wonder which one we will see first.

We’ll see guns banned for trans. And then claim gun control is a failure when mass shootings dont stop