Maurice Tempelsman is DEAD TO ME!

Wow. He was fine last week at Jazzercise.

Her partners/husbands were so varied except in one crucial respect.

Jackie and him were THE society couple of NYC in the 80's and 90's.

That type of prestige and classiness is long gone.

Jackie, always the gold-digger.

I'll be sure to sit shiva.

Didn’t he have a falling out with the kids shortly after Jackie’s funeral?

He looked 95 back in the 90s.

Had a lunch with him at his office. Incredibly elegant man with impeccable manners. Served in a private dining room in the office by uniformed waiters. Intimidating in his knowledge, worldliness and demeanor - but polite and respectful.

[quote]Jackie, always the gold-digger.

She was already loaded when she met him.

^^She wanted more. With Jackie, it was never enough.

Christina Onassis gave Jackie $26 million just to get her the hell out of Christina's sight. Jackie was repulsive in her quest for money.

Did you expect her to hook up with Larry Fortensky, r2?

Was he part of Jackie’s assistance?

Jackie calmed down once she got the Onassis inheritance and Maurice managed it and grew it.

I love the stories of her going on “shopping sprees” with Onassis’ credit cards, bringing it all home, then sending her maid Provi Paredes and her secretary Nancy Tuckerman to consignment shops all over Manhattan to resell it and pocket the cash.

Or how she was given an allowance of $30,000/month in 1968 dollars for monthly expenses, and it would be spent within 10 days-remember, the Kennedy family was paying for the children’s education and the Secret Service was still providing the kids security.

Or how Jackie insisted on going with Onassis to Iran for a three day visit, when he was speaking with the government about a deal involving his oil tankers, because she knew she would be sent home loaded up with presents (she was given over $700,000 (in 1972 dollars) in gifts ranging from rugs to gems to sheepskin jackets for the children).

Or how the Egyptian government gave the US government two ancient, priceless artifacts as a thank you for helping save Ancient Egyptian buildings threatened by the construction of the Aswan Dam. They also gave Jackie personally 2 expensive , contemporary vases, but Jackie wanted the artifacts, not the vases, so she had the vases classified as official government gifts and the artifacts classified as personal gifts.

Or when she returned to the Christina one last time to pick up a few things she left on the yacht, and walked off the boat with Ari’s priceless jade Buddha.

Christina had to settle with Jackie. The Onassis organization wanted to build a shipyard in the US at the time and needed Ted Kennedy’s support. Also, the Greek Junta government (who Onassis supported) was out of power when he died, and new government was not pro-Onassis.

If she could prove he died without a will in Greece-and she may have been able to do this, because he wrote the will on a jet when he was flying from Acapulco to Palm Beach with Jackie after fighting with her-she would have been entitled under Greek law to 1/8 of his estate, or $125 Million. His will left her with $150000 a year plus a minority interest in the Christina.

Jackie was quite enterprising.

Do you think Jackie ever met Jackée Harry?

[quote]Jackie was quite enterprising.

More power to her. Of course she isn't as altruistic as Melania, but still...

[quote] Did you expect her to hook up with Larry Fortensky, [R2]?

No, but perhaps someone with a net worth In the $10 to $15 million range?

Get that $$$ girl!

Did Jackie ever write a letter to Khrushchev about being kind to the world's children?

She dated Pete Hamill, among other men, after Onassis died and before she started dating Maurice. She also had several boyfriends in the 60s that were not mega-wealthy.

No. But she did write a letter to her not-so-bright and no-so-hardworking son’s university justifying his inability to cope with the demands of higher education.

Jackie allegedly "dated" Mike Nichols in the 70s.

Oswald strikes again.

[quote] She dated Pete Hamill, among other men, after Onassis died and before she started dating Maurice. She also had several boyfriends in the 60s that were not mega-wealthy.

Dated but didn’t settle down with or marry. There has a difference.

There’s nothing wrong at all with what she did and women of her generation generally had to live their lives through their men, but it’s stringing what a variegated lot they were other than being really rich.

It is striking…

[quote] She dated Pete Hamill

I loved him in Star Wars!

He & his wife, from whom he was long separated, never divorced. She died in 2022.

Bravo for her R13!

It's kind of amazing how many Ashkenazi Jewish men live past 90. What's their secret?

Oil of Olay

A Greek? And then a Jew? If she’d lived longer she would have been sleeping with a Hindu.

The curtain has finally descended on Camelot.

Not so fast, R31.

R32. Since you’re here, why has Jack’s whole family been dating Christ-killers since I died?

It was that three-part JFK, JR documentary that killed him! That's what did it, I tell ya. Brought back painful memories of 'what could've been' with his possible wife and possible step-son, if only they didn't die so young.

It was the Fauci ouchy done him in! He should have listened to our wonderful HHS Secretary RFK Jr the only decent member of that Dumbocrat family!

R20 It is a known fact that the Ms. Romer of Brown University whom Mrs. Kennedy wrote to that summer, promptly replied with a response letter which said, "Fuck you." And that was the end of their correspondence as pen pals in the summer of 1980.

Here's the latest on Ms. Romer, who held her position at Brown from 1972-2001.

I wonder if a couple like that has sex. And, if so, what diseases did she pass on from Jack?

Ms. Romer looks like she enjoys nutloaf and bread pudding, if you know what I'm saying.

He died on Saturday, August 23 and would have turned 96 tomorrow, August 26. Similar to Loni Anderson dying two days before her 80th a few weeks ago.

Maurice Templesman of the Back Bay Tenolrsmans?

Is he in a death triangle with Loni, R40. Along with Julian McMahon?

Poor guy died from a fall at a Manhattan Medical Center.

This is the second death today of which I found out was due to a 'fall'. My friend's husband, a very athletic, fit, healthy man of 77 (who was a vegetarian all his life and looked 20 years younger) died from 'severe head injuries' due to an accidental fall three weeks ago (they just announced it on Facebook). WTH ?

A person one day from 96 dying of a fall is about as remarkable as a 13-year-old having acne.

Sorry about your friend, nonetheless

The health of an elderly person dying from a fall has generally been already greatly compromised.

[quote]The health of an elderly person dying from a fall has generally been already greatly compromised.

Correct. Being 96 is generally a greatly compromising health condition.

I didn't say Tempelsman's cause of death was shocking or unheard of (at nearly 96), I just pointed out he was one of two I heard about within hours of each other. That's what surprised me.

R46, I remember people posting on social media that they couldn't understand how the Queen deteriorated so quickly when she looked so well in that photo with Liz Truss the previous day. She was 96, FFS! When you're 96, being alive is the exception, not the rule.

R48 June Squibb, 96, would like to see you in her Broadway dressing room, pronto !

Jackie would be 96 if she were still alive.

[quote] Being 96 is generally a greatly compromising health condition.

So young.

This is weird. Out of nowhere this afternoon, an image of Jackie Onassis lighting up a cigarette came to mind. I mean, I never think about Jackie.

I do have the occasional dream where I'm able to speak rationally with the Orange Tyrant and he actually listens.

But Jackie is not among my mental furniture.

Was the COD a fall or did he develop some condition like pneumonia that was the actual COD. This happened to my father. Broken hip and pneumonia two weeks later. He had Parkinson's and dementia which also appear on the death certificate.

I honestly thought he already was dead

Wow I thought this character was dead decades ago and went under the radar. Maurice and Jackie happy at last.

So funny - I could have sworn he had died during COVID for some reason. Unless it was someone else I read about with a similar name and I mistook it for him?

[quote] Maurice and Jackie happy at last

Yeah, where does Jack come into this up in heaven?

[quote]Jackie and him were

I swear I never do this but OH DEAR!!

Oh, SHIT, what’s he doing here??! Jack, get up and put some clothes on…

I pick my nose.

According to all the obits on him, he 'left his first wife' in 1984, but they never divorced. They remained 'separated'. Shortly after leaving her he starts dating Jackie, and soon after that he moves into her apartment and they live together for the next ten years, until her death in 1994. So the very publicly 'devout' Catholic Jackie was cohabitating with a married man for 10 years, and the Church allowed this without excommunicating her ? How much was she paying the NY Bishop off each year to keep her in good standing with the Church ?

[quote] Catholic Jackie was cohabitating with a married man for 10 years, and the Church allowed this without excommunicating her ?

They also didn't when she married a divorced man.

Jackie was a cunning shark like creature with a baby voice. She gave me the creeps.

Museums all over the world received items from the Egyptian government as a thank you for helping save Ancient Egyptian buildings threatened by the construction of the Aswan Dam.

May his memory be for a blessing.

Can you crossover to the other thread?

The secretive Jewish-Irish “mafia” of greater Boston.

You'd never know it, but Jackie was a month older than Maurice.

Then..not now

;)

Templeton the rat?

He was her muse—no mouse he.

R62 That's true, too. For some reason, I always thought he was widowed (and still do). Only recently did I read up on him and found out he was divorced.

I'm guessing she made the Catholic NYC diocese rather wealthy from 1974 - 1994. Plenty of checks were put in the collection basket those twenty years.

Maurice, as some called him, spoke of the pompatus of love.

How was it that sister Lee Notzowell didn't get her claws into Tempelsman?

Lee was too in love with Herbie.

[quote] How was it that sister Lee Notzowell didn't get her claws into Tempelsman?

Who says I didn’t? My sister could never quite keep a man.

At least Maurice didn't pick on the sweetest of the magnolias! Herbie was a son of bitch!!

Lee had her hooks into Newton Cope, the San Francisco hotelier she ditched at the altar, when Jackie started dating Maurice. Lee was also drinking heavily at the time and Jackie made her attend AA.

R71? You have some antiquated notions about the ways of the church. She didn’t care what the archdiocese thought. The archdiocese didn’t care about her private life.

Newt

R28 mine lived to 101

R76, it's Sally FIELD.

Christopher Reeves

I saw Sally Fields at Barnes and Nobles once.

That would be Barne and Nobles, it would seem.

r48, the Queen was actively dying when the photo was taken, all you have to do is look at her hands.

How we lose does one die? 🤔

How else*

What would DL have become without the generational Kennedys & their many tentacles?

How did he die?

Hancock or Alpert, R74 ?

Faye, R90.

[quote]Yeah, where does Jack come into this up in heaven?

Jack is in the same place as me, for all eternity. Jackie is in a different place, along with the Swanson girl.

Latest bio claims they had a platonic relationship and never schtupped. Unlikely as Jackie's longtime housekeeper said they shared a bed and JBKO had a notorious twitchy knish. She had known Templesman from her White House days. Money made her hooha wet and Maurice had that.He was big contributor to JFK's campaign and had attended many WH dinners ect. One of the reasons Jackie made such a fuss over being seen with and supporting Nelson Mandela was to assure Templesman's blood diamond business in SA was not disrupted. It worked. Despite her dying wish that Caroline and particularly John seek 'Maurice's wisdom" The kids booted the ole Shylock from Mummy's apartment fairly quickly. Don't believe they were close to him. Doubt Caroline will sit shiva. The big myth was that they never married because Templeman's wife refused to give him a "get" to divorce him so he could marry Jackie. Bullshit. My orthodox tante is on her third hubby not a get in site. They never married because neither Jackie or Maurice wanted to. Probably for financial reasons as everything Jackie did in her life was to make damn sure she never wound up on assistance. Oy.

And in his most recent Kennedy book, R93, Randy Taraborrelli argues that the Jackie-Ari marriage was never consummated.

I do wonder if a lot of these later-in-life relationships aren't unconsummated.

Was Jackie a chub chaser?

The crew on The Christina heard Jackie and Ari fucking, and one of them walked in on them.

Apparently she asked her doctor about sex when she married Onassis, because she didn’t enjoy it with JFK.

And Maurice was photographed coming out of Jackie’s apartment early one morning wearing pajama bottoms under the suit he wore the night before.

[quote] Apparently she asked her doctor about sex when she married Onassis, because she didn’t enjoy it with JFK.

Chlamydia is not enjoyable.

JFK was a 2 pump hump. Jackie was on top due to his bad back. Her sex life was much better with Onassis . He was well hung. He used to whip it out and compare it to a dinner plate.Like most Greeks he liked anal, Jackie did not. Maria Callas did. Explains a lot. Ari also keep blonde yacht boys which he brutally buggered and slapped around. Ari told everyone a true Greek has a wife a mistress and a boy on the side. He made no secret of it, Jackie felt sorry for them. Snap of Jackie with one of Ari's boy toys.

Ari had good taste, R99.

[quote] Her sex life was much better with Onassis

Or non-existent.

It is a ridiculous frau fantasy that JBKO was not getting shagged by Onassis & Templesman. Jackie loved the D. She was getting her furrow plowed by her bodyguard Clint Hill months after she planted JFK. Carl Warnake fucked her in JFK's bed less than a year after the assassination. Brando too. Crew on the yacht caught Onassis schtupping her in lifeboat for Christ sake. She was a highly sexed broad. The only bigger slut was her sis The Princess Lee who no doubt did anal (based on the fags she dated) well.

^ We didn't call her The Billion Dollar Bush for nuthin kiddo..

Lumpen fraus judge a partner's desirability by impossible social media app perfect physical standards. Jackie like most women of her generation and class went for powerful men with big bank accounts. Looks were low on her list. Jackie was not into pretty boys like her Greek husband.

Lumpen.

" not into pretty boys"

WTF am I Chopped liver?

Didn’t Andy Warhol claim in his diaries that Warren and Jackie fucked. Apparently he was bragging about this at Jackie’s Christmas party and Jackie threw him out.

I wonder if Jackie and Carly ever traded notes on whom they fucked,

I'm sure some men were overlapped between the two.

They both fucked Warren Beatty. I wonder whose snatch was tighter. I'm going with Jackie.

I love the story Carly tells about going to the movies with Jackie around the time JFK came out.

Carly was being very manic and twitchy that day and asked Jackie if she had seen JFK yet.

To add to R9's account, for a planned matinee movie, Carly did her due diligence to make sure the movie house they went to was not one also showing JFK & would thus have no JFK posters. Carly succeeded in this task, only to absentmindedly ask Jackie about the movie when they took their seats.

Pal of Jackie's was visiting her at her flat when the lift door opened and Warren Beatty stepped in. Knowing Beatty's rep as a swordsman girlfriend couldn't resist asking Jackie " Well how was he?" Jackie shrugged and replied " OK, but there's only so much a man can do."