Mamdani wants to do away with most criminal prosecutions for equity

VIN News, OP?

From Google: "While Ugandan academic Mahmood Mamdani has argued against relying on criminal justice for resolving mass political violence, New York State Assemblymember Zohran Mamdani, who is often the subject of public commentary on this issue, has clarified that he does not want to end all criminal prosecutions. As a member of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), Assemblymember Mamdani has historically called for reducing penalties for non-violent offenses, but in recent months, he has stressed the importance of prosecuting serious crimes. "

The amount of crap people are saying Mamdani favors is insane.

It’s going to be a shit show

Our trolls are so desperate.

[quote]"While Ugandan academic Mahmood Mamdani has argued against relying on criminal justice for resolving mass political violence, New York State Assemblymember Zohran Mamdani, who is often the subject of public commentary on this issue, has clarified that he does not want to end all criminal prosecutions.

Picking apart the quote from Google:

"Mamdani has argued against relying on criminal justice for resolving mass political violence, "

Well, then who does he think we should rely on?

"(Mandani) has clarified that he does not want to end all criminal prosecutions."

Not ALL criminal prosecutions.

Oh, well, isn't that reassuring...

Well, then who does he think we should rely on?

^ the last line is a repeat and should not be there.

No worries. Trump can just call in the National Guard.

R2 The red flag is non-violent offenses are also white collar crimes like fraud, embezzlement, and tax evasion.

This did not work out well for Chesa Boudin in San Francisco.

Here we go again. Enjoy your shitshow, NYC. NYC, like San Francisco , Chicago, and Philadelphia, is going to be the poster child for many more Republican administrations to come. They never learn they’re lesson. The Left is painted as the defund the police and sex changes for children. This shit is not helping. People are being set on fire in NYC.

This is what Democrats do NOT need to do. This is shit that appeals to leftists, but turns off moderates and swing voters.

The message should be 100% about resisting the federal government's illegal actions and restoring law and order. REAL law and order. Due process and all that.

I'm half convinced that crap like Defund the Police was secretly funded by the Right.

The debates will show Zohran for the con man he his. Shades of "Right Here in River City"

To the river to the sea.

R11 after a dozen years in and adjacent to progressive circles in Brooklyn, I can tell you that there’s no need for stealth funding to make up shir to make the progressive left look bad.

Regressives are also responsible for Fetterman.

[quote]vinnews.com

[quote]reported by New York Post

Do choke to death on Andrew Cuomo's cock, OP.

R14 - Are you sure those people aren't moles placed in the groups by law enforcement? It was the case during Occupy Wall Street. And it's been verified this was a police and spy agency tactic during the Vietnam War.

Yeah, this doesn't seem like a desperate Trump Cult maneuver at all. The Party of Career Criminals and Worldwide Grifters is going to stop crime? Yeah, no.

R18 will disappear by 2027 in relation to this topic and pretend he never supported this idiot.

I want to read his position for myself. Is vinnews right wing? Never heard of it. Of course the punishment should match the crime, but being soft on misdemeanors allow more serious crime to prevail. I believe in the broken window theory all day long because I’ve seen it play out over and over in black and brown neighborhoods across America. People talk about gentrification in our major cities. I’ve seen ratchet blacks diminish majority black suburban neighborhoods or at least tried too. When you liter and treat ya neighborhood like a piece of garbage, it becomes one.

Nope, r19, Mamdani is clearly the only one running who actually gives a shit about doing anything for NYC, and not just on some personal redemption tour for being a constant shit weasel, and intent on doing absolutely nothing for anybody else.

You on the other hand should be deeply, deeply embarrassed for being in the Trump Cult and for pretending that cunt ever gave a shit about anything but himself, money, and always being the biggest cunt in any room.

This nonsense hasn’t worked anywhere. San Fran got rid of their progressive fool. Adams and Cuomo are too toxic to win so this is the future. Queens where he gets a lot of his support will revolt quickly. The nepo babies who live here will soon realize he can’t freeze actually free market rents. His honeymoon will end very quickly.

Rich people will hire private security to patrol their streets or live in safe havens. He’ll become a national symbol of what Dems do when they take power and cost the Dems in 2026.

Check back around August 2026 and see if my crystal ball is working.

[quote]Rich people will hire private security to patrol their streets or live in safe havens.

Like South Africa.

[quote]This is what Democrats do NOT need to do.

Zorhan Mamdani has never been a Democrat.

[quote] While Mamdani says he no longer backs defunding the NYPD, critics—including Republican rival Curtis Sliwa—warn the proposal could create “an EZ-Pass for criminals” and worsen public safety. State law limits a mayor’s power to change misdemeanor statutes, though enforcement priorities could be shifted.

Hmmm, so this is all a big fantasy of what could happen if Mamdani was Trump and claimed complete dictatorial powers? Well, okay then. None of this will actually happen, and is just a big fear-based nothingburger to give a thrill to Trump Cult members.

R22 I hope he is pragmatic. I want him to win so bad. Being over liberal in high crime neighborhoods, has it ever worked anywhere around the world. Like seriously, anywhere?

Good luck. Looks like you have no good choices.

Of course he'll be pragmatic. Only wingnut fascists and Christian nationalists are allowed to live out their fantasies in this country.

He will be working within a system that will require him to compromise and come up with programs that will lean left at best, which is better than anything his opponents will offer, as they pretty much offer nothing at all.

Ultimately it's up to the DA to decide which crimes to prosecute and what punishments to seek. The Mayor does have some control over the Police Department however.

If people in NYC don't like this, they could always not vote for him. Let's let the voters have their say.

"Such a stance could also embolden groups to target vulnerable communities, including Jewish students at universities like Columbia and NYU"

How clueless do you have to be to think rich Jewish kids at elite schools are the most vulnerable group in society?

All this talk is so hilarious. Mamdani is being handed the Mayor's office on a silver platter. Do you really think Trump and the GOP couldn't muscle two of the three clowns opposing him out of the race if they wanted to? News flash: the GOP WANTS Mamdani to win, because like most people they're assuming he's going to be a woke liberal disaster that they can run on in 2026. Why do you think Stefanik was so quick to waddle into the governor's race, despite 2026 being a Trump midterm?

Another poster above mentioned Chesa Boudin, and I think that's spot-on, except this is Mayor of NYC, one of the most powerful executive positions in the country.

"Being over liberal in high crime neighborhoods, has it ever worked anywhere around the world. Like seriously, anywhere?"

Weird how crime went up under Reagan. I thought conservatism was supposed to lower crime?

Oh God stop talking about Trump.He has zero to do with the election for Mayor. Trump will be just as big a monster whomever becomes the next Mayor of NYC.

"Rich people will hire private security to patrol their streets or live in safe havens. He’ll become a national symbol of what Dems do when they take power and cost the Dems in 2026."

Crime is going down everywhere, including very liberal cities. Conservatives are so dumb

R35, the only place crime has exponentially increased is the WH. Conservatives are always ok with rich white men being rapists and thieves.

Trump is the biggest criminal in the country. There is no honest conversation about crime in this country, anywhere in this country, that can't at least acknowledge that the president of the United States is himself a huge criminal. It actually does matter when trying to discuss the different approaches toward crime between the parties. The entire Republican Party has made it very, very clear that they love crime, as long as it is the kind of crime that Trump commits, corruption, and grifting, and taking bribes, and treason. It has to be part of the conversation, sorry.

[quote]Why do you think Stefanik was so quick to waddle into the governor's race,

The fat cow was hungry... the only reason she waddles anywhere.

Do you work for Cuomo?

Crime has gone down in NYC because we have a great police commissioner.

Too bad Adams is corrupt because he has been a decent Mayor. Unfortunately, I’m already seeing signs of slippage. Returned from Penn Station today and the streets around it are looking like Calcutta. Too reminiscent of the bad Dinkins days.

Oh God, more Trump is a criminal so please don’t mind the homeless dude shitting on my stoop.

ever change DL.

Trump pardoned people who beat up cops...I guess that's less of a crime than someone shitting on a sidewalk.

Never change, conservatives

Guess you guys missed "...New York Post reports..." at that link.

Perhaps you shouldn't believe everything you read

I almost can’t understand anything in OPs opener.

R35 agreed. But I will say this whenever crime does go up, it disproportionally affects black and brown people. The victims are mainly black and brown. That always gets lost in the sauce by conservatives who swear they are about law/order and liberals with misplaced empathy.

[quote] Oh God, more Trump is a criminal so please don’t mind the homeless dude shitting on my stoop.

It's more that Trump Cult members can't be trusted on this subject, and their personal observation that the streets around Penn Station are "looking like Calcutta" might not be strictly accurate, and might have less to do with crime than with other things.

Also, crime is falling all over. It can't be because of one police commissioner in New York City. It has to be more systemic.

[quote]Zorhan Mamdani has never been a Democrat.

Yes he is.

[quote]Also, crime is falling all over.

Sure, Jan. Philly has a progressive DA who doesn’t charge. His staff walked out in disgust and the American Bar Association refused to endorse him. Go look at the numbers. You’re basically saying crime is falling because instead of a million homicides, we’re done to 998,000. Violence is off the charts in the US when compared to every other industrialized country. They don’t even charge you with theft unless you steal over a certain amount. Wow, who would have thought the crime number would go down by not prosecuting that. And unfortunately George Soros IS backing every one of these schmucks. I know Republicans scream his name over everything but he truly is in the pockets of every one of these batshit candidates. It’s public record. He means well but he lives in cuckoo la la land with around the clock armed security.

I like some of what Mamdani is calling for, but lowering the bar for criminal prosecutions is what caused so many problem in NYC since 2020. We do not need a lawless community, it will be come a total shit-show.

Crime is down overall. Sorry it doesn't fit the fascist need for crime to be wildly out of control and therefore only Il Duce can save us. But it's true. You are going to have to deal with the trauma of that and go from there.

You are going to have to admit that you like fascism just because you like fascism, and not because of any emergency that requires it.

[quote]Crime is going down everywhere, including very liberal cities

Crime in US cities is still absurdly high.

Chicago homicide rate : 21.9% per 100,000 people in the last 12 months as of early 2025.

Rome Italy homicide rate: 0.5% per 100,000 people. (2024)

Paris France: 1.08% per 100,000 people. (2018)

London England: 1.4% per 100,000 people. (2023)

Yes, we are an unusually violent country, partly because we value freedom over community, but also because we are such fucking gun nuts, almost as a religion. We really have gone apeshit with the love of guns and the love of solving our problems with guns in this country. Unfortunately, solving that kind of shit is going to take a whole lot more than a few laws and some stern lectures from pulpits, or even some asshole claiming to be "tough on crime."

[quote]Sorry it doesn't fit the fascist need for crime to be wildly out of control...

Does this sound "under control" to you:

"Chicago shootings: At least 55 people shot, 8 fatally, in 4th of July weekend gun violence, CPD says" - July 4th weekend 2025.

Keep in mind that crime figures are also down because many large cities have stopped prosecuting acts like stealing and robbery, so police in turn are not bothering to arrest or book the perps.

what do you want to do about guns and gun nuts r53?

what the FUCK is VIN news?

R51 you’re not wrong but I hope you are placing things in a historical context. As a black person fed up with violent crime I used to think “why why why”. But then I begin to remember 400 years of slavery, then you free the people but don’t give them shit and huge chunk of the white people in their cities & towns, spend the next 75 years terrorizing them like Arabic jihadists. None of those European nations have that sordid legacy.

I'm not going to even look it up, so I'll let people tell me if I'm wrong: but I am going to assume that each of those European cities has much tighter gun control and far fewer guns swirling around those cities. And none have this insane history of loving and worshiping guns and gun violence in this country.

R58 what ever the reason, the point is, repeating "Crime is going down everywhere!" and "Crime is not out of control!" will convince no one. As far as crime goes, the situation in the US is dire.

[quote]I'm not going to even look it up, so I'll let people tell me if I'm wrong: but I am going to assume that each of those European cities has much tighter gun control and far fewer guns swirling around those cities.

That is true.

Some, (France, Italy Belgium) also have the military patrolling their streets.

No, it isn't "dire" r59. It is well within the experience of the United States, and in fact better than it's been in the past. By definition, that is not a "crisis" in need of a dictator to swoop in and run the place on behalf of his fellow fascists.

Mamdani should also do away with NEPO BABIES and MAN CHILDS

Mamdani is a Democratic Socialist who cosplays as a Democrat when he needs their election apparatus.

Wake up.

But will he do away with MANKEEPING?

Has he actually condemned Uganda for its horrific human rights abuses, or admitted it was a massive mistake to celebrate a honeymoon there of all places? Has he even said plainly that he stands with the LGBTQ people who’ve been murdered and imprisoned under that regime? What a fraud — always shifting, never standing for anything real. And the fact that AOC is his loudest cheerleader says it all.

R58 True gun control is nearly impossible because of the 2nd amendment. Compare Maryland and Virginia. Maryland has some of the more stricter gun laws in the country. Virginia has lax gun laws, not Deep South lax, but generally lax. Maryland has way more gun violence than Virginia. Strict gun laws have to be national but it won’t because of the 2nd amendment. And that federal entity wedge between them both has very strict gun laws, and more gun violence than both states. It’s sad.

Actually, that is a very, very recent reinterpretation of the 2nd Amendment r66. The truth is, for the longest time, the Supreme Court refused to interpret it as an individual right, despite having done that with most of the other amendments. It was purely a cause for gun nuts who first took over the NRA, and eventually took over the whole Republican Party. It was a choice, and really, if we're not going to reverse that choice I don't want to hear a lot of shit about how Democrats are causing all this crime. Gun nuts are causing many more homicides just through their worship of guns. And the thing about guns is they travel, very, very easily. You can pass all the gun laws you want, but if the neighboring state doesn't give a shit, those guns are all going to wander into your state or your city.

Breaking news! Mamdani announced on MSNBC that he will appoint Jussie Smollett NYPD Commissioner if elected. Mamdani was quoted as saying Jussie knows what it is to be black, gay and persecuted and he will put an end to all racial arrested until it is even 1:1 black to white arrested.

R67 And the thing about guns is they travel, very, very easily.

Yep. But you are wrong about gun nuts being the perpetrators of all this gun violence. Unless you meant indirectly. It’s not clear what you asserting. The people causing all this violent crime don’t even know how to accurately shoot, and some of them so ignorant will shoot into a crowd to unalive their intended target. Them old school gangstas and thugs would never. These dummies today don’t even care.

R68 Lame. I enjoy a good laugh no matter what side of the political spectrum. That joke was weak.

I mean indirectly r69. I don't think every gun nut is killing people. I mean every gun nut is at full shriek the second anybody wants to pass any kind of gun control at all. And that contributes to all the gun violence in this country.

R65 That is such a stupid criticism. He is from the there and has cultural ties there that go back to his parents. He didn’t just randomly decide to have his honeymoon there. It’s like criticizing someone for having their honeymoon in Atlanta or New Orleans during the 90s when law enforcement routinely harassed gay people, as well as private citizens and all the anti-sodomy laws on the book.

[quote[No, it isn't "dire" [R59].

^ You can only shake your head and laugh at comments like that.

Well, the weekend has 30 minutes to go. So far it's:

"4 dead, 19 hurt in Chicago weekend shootings"

Including a 5 year old child.

Not dire at all you say?

Read the article R61. It details the shootings and the people shot:

It's not dire. It is the world we have chosen r73, because we have chosen to let gun nuts run the country. Nothing whores and grifters and fascists like you have ever done or said shows any desire to change that formula. We are a gun nut country, and we have a gun nut culture, and we have gun nut crime levels. And you are 100% okay with that, all your crocodile tears about it notwithstanding.

You simply want fascism because you want fascism. Own it, and stop pretending otherwise.

Of course R74 needs to get personal and make assumptions. You don’t know me. I have lived most of my adult life in a low crime country with tight gun control laws. The US should have the same. But that should have been done decades ago. It’s too late now. There are hundreds of thousands of guns in circulation in the US.

[quote]"Mamdani has argued against relying on criminal justice for resolving mass political violence,"

Is NYC seriously going to elect this clown? WTF?

The stark reality is that the majority of firearms used in murders in the United States are obtained illegally. While precise figures fluctuate annually, estimates consistently show that around 70-80% of firearms recovered at homicide scenes were illegally possessed by the individuals who used them, highlighting a crucial link between illegal firearm availability and gun violence.

Adams said Sunday that the recent violence doesn’t warrant a curfew in the most troublesome parts of The Bronx but that the NYPD will focus on beefing up police in “critical” areas.

“We’ve driven down crime citywide,” he told The Post. “In the Bronx, we’re dealing with gangs and young people. The DA has been talking about giving them alternatives and programs while we step up enforcement.

Some of the people crying over our high crime rates are posting from other countries, where guns are strictly regulated, if available at all. But I wonder if those posters were politically aware or agitated when crime was at its all-time high. 30 YEARS AG0!! (In the early 1990s). Much higher rates of all crimes, but particularly murders and rapes.

People's perceptions are formed by the media, not by personal experience. Many people in the US have suffered from property crimes, but VERY VERY few have been touched by violent crime, because whether it's 40 per hundred thousand or 1 per hundred thousand, the odds are low that any individual will experience it. Moreover, the hotbeds of crime are in the poorest sections of the urban environment, which is not where the majority of inhabitants live.

If people's media of choice are going on and on and on about shootings and knifings and assaults, people will start to fear leaving their houses, not because of reality, but because they are under a constant barrage of news portraying their cities as unbelievably dangerous.

I can tell you how we managed to bring down the theft rate here in San Francisco. Massive closures of stores!

PS Property crimes and petty theft are common in Europe too. It's the violent crimes that are lower there - mostly because of stricter gun laws.

hunny arranged for a treasure hunt and the find was him?

gimmicks and arrogance.

platitudes, no experience and flaccid ideas.

[quote]People's perceptions are formed by the media, not by personal experience. Many people in the US have suffered from property crimes, but VERY VERY few have been touched by violent crime

Perceptions a formed by personal experience. Not by the media. Good grief. Have you ever lived in an American city?

If you live in a city, you become very attuned to your surroundings. You develop a sense of what to avoid. You develop "street smarts". And you sure as hell better develop them.

You may know someone, a friend, or someone from your neighborhood who was robbed or worse. You take precautions so it doesn't happen to you. The statistics are real. The headlines of someone being pushed on the subway tracks or punched or whatever are real. They're not made-up stories.

I've never been in a car accident. But I wear a seat belt.

r79/r81 I always enjoy your posts.

Have a nice day.

[quote]It's the violent crimes that are lower there - mostly because of stricter gun laws.

It’s cultural. It’s not about gun laws.

I live in NYC. There was a crime surge after Covid. That has gotten better. But there are still lots of quality of life issues that affect life here. I don’t think abandoning broken widows policing is a good idea.

It never fails how bringing up an issue like crime gets people attacked as MAGA. If Dems can’t deal with issues important to voters they are finished. They cede those issues to Republicans. Oh wait, Dems have done that for years are now completely fucked!

[quote]It never fails how bringing up an issue like crime gets people attacked as MAGA.

It's honestly mind-boggling. People need to be and feel safe first, before we can discuss any other issue. How is that such a difficult concept to grasp? I hate to go there, but I think people with kids of their own understand this better than childless folk who only have themselves and their cats to look after.

So let me get this straight: our self-proclaimed woke progressive decides the perfect place for a honeymoon bash is Uganda—a country where LGBTQ people are jailed, beaten, or worse—and then manages to say absolutely nothing about it. Not a peep, not a post, not even a lukewarm “human rights are important everywhere” boilerplate. Apparently, moral outrage is highly portable when aimed at America or Europe, but somehow the luggage got lost at the Kampala airport. Even if you’re from there originally, silence isn’t neutrality—it’s complicity. But hey, nothing says “progressive values” like sipping champagne at a party while the government is busy criminalizing love.

I like some of what he says, but making crimes like theft and mugging a non-prosecuting offenses is fucked up.

I don’t agree with this but I will probably still vote for him.’

[Quote] This approach, which appears to reject the proven "broken windows" policing strategy, risks encouraging lawlessness by removing consequences for minor crimes.

“Broken windows” turned out to be racist, drivel. A failure.

The reason crime went down was because of the bullish Clinton economy. NYC’s crime rate went down as much as all cities’ crime went down

[Quote] So let me get this straight: our self-proclaimed woke progressive decides the perfect place for a honeymoon bash is Uganda—a country where LGBTQ people are jailed, beaten, or worse—and then manages to say absolutely nothing about it.

He’s from Uganda. That’s why he went there on honeymoon.

The capitalists are running scared about a potential Mamdani win. The Wall Street Journal publishes an anti-Mamdani piece daily.

If NYer didn’t feel the failures of capitalism so acutely, it wouldn’t be running to Mamdani. But they are

[Quote] People are being set on fire in NYC.

Maybe where you live in Pittsburgh but not here. I have yet to see a flaking person when I’m out and about lol.

Flaming

Vinne News? Really? All you can do is laugh.

One e too many, but still...

Vinnews.com is very reputable. Get all my news there.

The histrionics are getting ridiculous. A woman in my office in northern NJ this morning was carrying on about how “we need to get ready for a huge Orthodox Jewish migration here from New York City because I heard from an insider that they are ALL going to leave when Mamdami gets elected!” (We work in healthcare and there are constant demographics/ diversity/ population assessment types of questions.)

Right. Like entire communities that have been ensconced in Boro Park and in Crown Heights for generations- their homes, shuls, schools and businesses and livelihoods- they are going pack it all up ASAP, their entire world, and go find new places to live because they heard that Mamdami is supportive of the Palestinians!!

The idiocy.

I guess it's all they got r99. Ramp up the hysteria, cause ain't nobody gonna like Andrew Cuomo or Eric Adams for themselves. The only alternative is maniacal fear (which will fail).

[quote]It's honestly mind-boggling. People need to be and feel safe first, before we can discuss any other issue. How is that such a difficult concept to grasp? I hate to go there, but I think people with kids of their own understand this better than childless folk who only have themselves and their cats to look after.

As you well know, almost no one considers public safety unimportant I think what you find disconcerting is that people don't join you in your stupidity in 1) overstating the extent of crime, 2) ignoring the fact that crime is significantly down from its levels in almost all previous US history, and 3) being unconcerned about mindless anti-crime measures that significantly endanger the rule of law and civil rights with no gain in public safety.

When you next hear someone speaking in a way that you think is being inexplicably soft on crime, pause and ask yourself whether that is really the case or whether you are just being stupid. That may save you a lot of consternation in the future.

Exactly, R100, it’s such an absurd threat-card to try to play. “Omg The Hasidim are ALL going to flee !” Coworker described it like she was describing an inevitable true thing coming around the corner. Do they not care about looking stupid after the fact, when their 5-alarm warnings all fail to materialize? Probably not.

Also as several posters have said, it’s got to be true that the NY Post and Fox/MAGA world are stoked. They will indeed use Mamdami as a punching bag for all they can. Granted that’s been the case for every Democratic NYC mayor, but Mandami is extremely young and inexperienced and it’s true that he is conveying a progressive agenda. The NYC electorate’s appetite for his candidacy is (to me) the interesting part.

De Blasio and his “progressive” lady loving wife both thought Communist Cuba—where gay people were still being tortured and imprisoned—was the perfect honeymoon spot. Now we’ve got Mamdani prancing off to Uganda for his Communist soiree. Spare me the moral grandstanding. You don’t get to lecture the United States on human rights while choosing to toast your marriage in a country that treats LGBTQ people like criminals. I don’t care if you were born there—if you’re the woke crusader you claim to be, you condemn the place, you don’t throw a party there. And the idea that, as mayor, he’ll be funneling taxpayer money into that human-rights wasteland? Absolutely revolting.

Fascism runs on fear. Remember that when reading these responses.

Crime is down and has been trending downward for years.

Should Americans who had their honeymoon stateside be condemned because racist whites were routinely hanging black folks between 1900-1960s. Yes I took it there, hypocrites.

[quote]Crime is down and has been trending downward for years.

Crime in US cities is at absurd levels.

[quote]Fascism runs on fear. Remember that when reading these responses.

Fear:

"Chicago reels from bloody July 4 weekend with 109 people shot — 19 fatally" - July 4th 2024.

^^^ And they love it. They wallow in it. Mouth breathing morons (probably bots tho).

don't go there

R95- FLAMING !

please shut up about this guy's religion and ethic background , there's' plenty to criticize him for, namely his lack of experience.

shut up about him being born "wit a silvuh spoon in hiz mouf" .

Governor Cuomo is also born to a privileged background Governor Cuomo married into the Kennedy family.

focus on content, focus on the issues.

this guy thought a treasure hunt was appealing and appropriate. stupid gimmicks.

INTELLECTUAL LIGHTWEIGHT

[quote] Now we’ve got Mamdani prancing off to Uganda for his Communist soiree.

Nope, no hysteria here. All just typically well reasoned Trump Cult analysis. Yup. Just worried about crime, though mostly in Chicago, but ya know, same diff. And really isn't all about the Negro Question?

Anyone trying to excuse Uganda's human rights violations or compare it to the U.S. because racism exists here—ignoring that racism isn’t limited to whites—just exposes how hollow their defense of this so-called woke progressive hypocrite really is. Why vote for a Ugandan who won’t condemn one of the world’s worst human rights abusers—his own country—but never misses a chance to bash the U.S.? Add in the fact he lied about his race to get into college, and you’re left with a radical narcissist, not a leader.

but you voted for trump at least 3 times, so

"He's a... he's a... he's a COMMUNIST!!! A GODDAMN COMMIE!!! Is that who you want to vote for? Yeah, I didn't think so!

Teacher, he's holding communist soirees, right out in class, in Uganda!!!

If we’re reading between the lines here, is he suggesting that Black people commit way more crimes than white people? Is that the point here?

"He took a COMMIE HONEYMOON!! You can't elect someone who took a COMMIE HONEYMOON!"

Is this the new line from Troll HQ? Did they finally figure out that no one was buying "He's a MOOOOOSLIM! He'll throw the gays off of buildings!"

The stupidity of our trolls truly knows no bounds. There is no basement, no bottom to their moronic rhetoric. It can never go too low.

No, but you definitely are, R117.

[quote]De Blasio and his “progressive” lady loving wife both thought Communist Cuba—where gay people were still being tortured and imprisoned—was the perfect honeymoon spot. Now we’ve got Mamdani prancing off to Uganda for his Communist soiree.

Don't forget me!

I honeymooned in Mother Russia!

If Mamdani wants to scrap cash bail for misdemeanors, fine—just make him sit through testimony from every single victim. He’ll quickly realize it’s not his “overprotected white” bogeymen bearing the brunt, but low-income people and communities of color. Let him nod along to their pain, then pat himself on the back for decriminalizing the “low-level” crimes that make daily life miserable in this city.

[Quote] Crime in US cities is at absurd levels.

Which will only be solved by eradicating wealth disparities.

R122 No it won't. There are cities in this world with huge wealth disparities but the people aren't killing one another at the rates we see among certain groups in the US. Also: those doing the killing here are hardly poor in the real sense. The problem is a radicated culture of violence.

R123, throughout history and all over the world, the poor commit violent crimes. It tracks 1:1 with the economy—when the economy is bad, violent crime inevitably goes up. It reversed when the same economy gets better.

We are, in fact, at among the lowest point of crimes historically. As the rich get richer, with the rest pushed to the bottom, crime will go up.

It has nothing to do with “a culture of violence” and everything to do with wealth disparities.

[Quote] those doing the killing here are hardly poor in the real sense. The problem is a radicated culture of violence.

They are comparatively poor—which is why the disparity is the cause. In societies where everyone is dirt poor, there actually isn’t much crime

R63, okay, I’m awake, now what?

It is also the case that many places with low rates of crime have exceptionally draconian policing. Singapore, China, Qatar, UAE. Others have rigid social norms of behavior - (Japan) - or tiny homogenous populations (Iceland).

But I would agree that Americans in poverty tend to choose violent crimes perpetrated with guns at a much higher rate than in other countries - which I would ascribe to the exceptionally lax US gun laws.

R124 Not true. Argentina, as an example, has a much larger wealth gap than the US but the homicide rate is lower than the US. If you go by cities, Columbia has one of the largest wealth gaps in the world, yet the homicide rate of Bogota' is 25 x 100,000. Compare that to US cities. And in the US, West Virginia is the 5th poorest state in country, yet it ranks 30th among states for intentional homicide.

Poor choice of comparisons, r128

"According to the National Institute of Legal Medicine and Forensic Science, the homicide rate in Colombia has decreased 10 to 15%. Prior to 2002, the annual number of violent deaths was greater than 50,000 and 60–70% of these deaths were as a result of interpersonal violence related to narcotics and the actions of guerillas and paramilitary groups. At 2013, homicides constitute 53.6% of total violent deaths25 with the remaining half including suicides, work-related deaths, motor vehicle accidents, and poisonings. In 2002, 215–243 nonfatal injuries occurred and 50% were related to interpersonal violence. This was the year homicide rates begin to decline (Table 1). In 2013, 302, 484 nonfatal injuries occurred and 52.5% were related to interpersonal violence.25 Thus, while the homicide rate of the country may be declining, it is apparent that illicit drug trade-related trauma still poses a significant public health challenge in Colombia. (Table 2 and Fig. 1)."

Colombia has received a shit-ton of international aid to beef up its military and police forces to combat drug-related crime, which was the majority of crime. And drug-related crime is usually a side-effect of poverty and what appears to be easy money.

[Quote] But I would agree that Americans in poverty tend to choose violent crimes perpetrated with guns at a much higher rate than in other countries - which I would ascribe to the exceptionally lax US gun laws.

The fact that the poor commit violent crimes throughout history, the poor aren’t “choosing” violent crimes—it’s their only outlet

[Quote] Not true. Argentina, as an example, has a much larger wealth gap than the US but the homicide rate is lower than the US. If you go by cities, Columbia has one of the largest wealth gaps in the world, yet the homicide rate of Bogota' is 25 x 100,000.

Homocide is only one outcome of a violent crime, usually one in the minority

I said it earlier on this thread and I will say it again-

We also need to do away with Nepo Babies and Man Childs

[quote][R63]Mamdani is a Democratic Socialist who cosplays as a Democrat when he needs their election apparatus. Wake up.

[quote]okay, I’m awake, now what?

Great, now refuse to vote for the feckless, unqualified Jew-hating fart-sniffer who pals around with "The US deserved 9-11" apologists for Mayor! The deeper we look the more unqualified he becomes, along with all of his fantasy Democratic Socialist backwash!

What skills and experience does Mamdani possess to open the five City-owned grocery stores? I'd get behind that, but I doubt he has the leadership or administrative skills to even accomplish it.

I can

R133, most NY Jews support him

[Quote] What skills and experience does Mamdani possess to open the five City-owned grocery stores? I'd get behind that, but I doubt he has the leadership or administrative skills to even accomplish it.

He is a NY Assemblyman so he understands the politics and finances of NYC. It’s not like he will build the store himself and man the cash register

Instead of using antisemitic rhetoric, Zohran should seek forgiveness for selectively criticizing U.S. policies while ignoring Uganda’s brutal human rights abuses, such as its Anti-Homosexuality Act, which imposes life imprisonment or the death penalty for gay individuals. It’s inconsistent to overlook similar atrocities committed by groups like Hamas, who violently persecute LGBTQ people in Gaza. This selective outrage weakens 135 lb bench pressing Zo's credibility.

moose lambs are semites

[quote]The fact that the poor commit violent crimes throughout history, the poor aren’t “choosing” violent crimes—it’s their only outlet

It's not a fact that violent crimes are committed by poor people. Sociopaths commit violent crimes. Poor people aren't sociopaths. Your views of the disadvantaged are repugnant.

[Quote] Instead of using antisemitic rhetoric, Zohran should seek forgiveness for selectively criticizing U.S. policies while ignoring Uganda’s brutal human rights abuses

He hasn’t said any anti-Semitic. In fact he hasn’t repeatedly said he will work to protect Jews in NYC. Also, he’s American. He doesn’t need to discuss Uganda’s abuses.

[Quote] It's not a fact that violent crimes are committed by poor people. Sociopaths commit violent crimes. Poor people aren't sociopaths. Your views of the disadvantaged are repugnant.

Violent crimes are committed by a whole host of people, but the vast, vast majority of them are poor. Most are not sociopaths.

Crimes of most types have desperation at their root. Sometimes emotional desperation (a husband killing his wife and her lover out of jealousy), sometimes extreme anger (the neighbor killed my dog, so I killed my neighbor), and often economic desperation (I haven't eaten in 3 days, or I was just evicted from my home, or I've been looking for a job for 2 years, or I can't get medical care because I can't get insurance, or I had to drop out of school at age 12 because my family was so poor and I had to work as a gun runner for a drug gang in my neighborhood).

broken windows in poor areas/broken families all contribute to crime stats rising

[Quote] Fascism runs on fear. Remember that when reading these responses.

Three people were shot in the Bronx on Wednesday morning, one fatally, just as anti-gun violence advocates and community members were planning to gather to denounce the recent rash of crimes.

[Quote] Fascism runs on fear. Remember that when reading these responses.

Just more fascism I suppose

Bronx, NY: Totals for the Past Three Days (Monday–Wednesday) 3 fatalities and 4 injuries from gun shots. Mamdani has no plan to reduce gun violence, in fact he wants to let most of these criminals continue their human destruction with no cash bail whenever possible.

Mamdani better not give up that $2,300 a month rent stabilized apartment

[quote]often economic desperation (I haven't eaten in 3 days, or I was just evicted from my home, or I've been looking for a job for 2 years, or I can't get medical care because I can't get insurance, or I had to drop out of school at age 12 because my family was so poor and I had to work as a gun runner for a drug gang in my neighborhood).

No one has to become a gun-runner for a neighborhood gang. No one has to become a violent criminal because they're hungry or have hit on hard times. You're just normalizing criminal behavior.

R141 While I am not saying that poverty and desperation don't have some effect on criminal behavior, it is far too simplistic to label it as the root cause. There are many impoverished places in the world with much lower violent crime rates than we have in the US. I don't usually link conservative sources, but the attached is describing a Colombia University study on the subject.

"There's a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average."

New York’s culture of poverty is shaped largely by immigrant communities, many of whom quickly develop a sense of entitlement due to lax enforcement and the decline of “broken windows” policing. Fare evasion, barbecues on sidewalks, and failure to clean up after pets in public spaces are treated as routine, with little to no consequences. From there, misconduct escalates to immigration fraud through sham marriages, Section 8 housing scams, illegal room rentals, Medicaid fraud, and other abuses. Prosecutions are rare, which encourages others to follow suit. The result is a cycle where crime becomes embedded in everyday life. Despite limited financial means, people find it easier to live this way—and city leadership, under Democratic control, allows it to continue. This isn’t about racism; it’s about observable patterns of crime that go largely unaddressed.

For example, AngelicaMaria1025, a Dominican content creator, regularly shares stories about fraud and abuse she says are common in her own community in New York. She highlights schemes ranging from benefit fraud to housing scams, reinforcing the broader concern that these practices are widespread and largely unpunished. Check her out. She is a very good story teller.