Why is the gay community so bad at representation?

You've asked this before and my answer remains the same – the normie gays like you and me are boring and thus not very interesting, both to straight people and to other gay people. You don't watch an accountant do his work in you free time either, do you? No, you watch entertaining content with people who stand out in some way.

Idk you would think there would be less cliche writing in Hollywood.

Being gay ought to be more normalized. You cannot help being gay and it shouldn't drive people to suicide just because they like the same sex.

Yeah. We don't hide our sexuality but we also don't broadcast it unless absolutely necessary. Back in the 1990s I would come across acquaintances who were surprised to see me at ACT-UP events. I thought everyone knew I was gay.

I am who I am. It's not performance art.

R1 Yeah but why does “exciting” representation have to be so embarrassing and cringy? Can’t there be a movie about cops who sleep together and then shoot bad guys? Does it always have to be some cringy Billy Porter-esque jacksss in a dress?

I think you're completely wrong. There are ton of boring gay characters in TV shows and movies. Billy Porter only plays weirdos and the other three examples are flamboyant pop stars. You're complaining about nothing.

We can’t allow the blue haired ones go on TV for us.

Everyone is a stereotype on tv.

Instead of the endless anti-trans troll threads from OP - we now get these threads about how gay men are straight and better than everyone else in the LGBT+ acronym. Everyone else are an embarrassing cacophony of "less thans" who are a horrifying weight around gay men's necks.

OP you are deeply self-loathing and R1 is correct - you have posted this same thread over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again in many different guises...

Of course you ignore all the thousands of out screen and stage actors, politicians, professional sports stars, music stars all around the world who are regularly featured in the media and forward our drive to be accepted. Instead you just pick on a few ultra flamboyant gays to shit on. Like with every other demographic on the planet - there is no right way to be gay and no wrong way to be gay. But please - keep trying as hard as you can to get everyone in the LGBT+ to be at each other's throats all the time and hating each other.

R8 If you check my post history I doubt you will find this topic.

If I had a dollar for every time this topic comes up...

[quote]If you check my post history I doubt you will find this topic.

Uh huh... and that would be because you're a new sock puppet account R9. We know these posts from you and the style of your writing. We've all seen them before like R10 says. You're not fooling anyone.

I don't think anyone believes Sam Smith or Lil Nas X represent ALL gay men. They're in the spotlight because they've had hit songs, it's not like the media decided to push them for no reason

The diversity within the gay community should be respected and recognized no matter where each one of us fits, including the obvious stereotypes who are my friends and loved ones.

Sometimes I feel I don't fit and when I do, I am expected to be a top at all times. That comes from adherence to stereotypes among ourselves.

Finding my second husband who is very much like me was a revelation. My first one as well but he died tragically.

Most of my gay friends are more effeminate . Just not me. I have dirty fingernails and like watching Hockey. I have a 1965 Triumph Spitfire, my hobby, in the garage next to our big old Camry.

I'm also more of an introvert. Maybe that's it. But there was a time when I was encouraged to embrace the stereotype but it was not me.

I've done my share of Halloween in drag, mostly to please good friends who wanted to dress me up. Fine.

I also can't get into the gym thing. I work out by doing things. My garden, renovations in my house, mechanics on my little sports car.

I feel like an outcast among my "more" gay friends. Like I am not gay enough.

Then I met my current husband. We understand each other.

"Regular guys who dress normally," now what would that look like? Some research now points to our walks (the speed, not the swishiness) and our facial expressions already giving us away. Don't you have some unhemmed Dockers to run up on the Singer?

Some of us make sure we can be identified as gay, in varying degrees. Understandable. Visibilty means availability. Extroverts are best at accomplishing this.

When an introvert goes to a bath house the first time he is shy until he sees the variety of men, most uglier, older, and in worse shape. Suddenly our cute introvert becomes the most desired piece of meat.

That's what being gay means to a young introvert. And then he suddenly has his choice of the available men.

SILENCE!

r8 will decide WHO is an authentic gay and who is not! No one daring to disagree with him is anything but a self-loathing CIS WHITE QUEER who must never be accepted, because ONLY femme queens and TRANS can represent us!

Agree r16 but they are part of us.

[quote]R8 will decide WHO is an authentic gay and who is not! No one daring to disagree with him is anything but a self-loathing CIS WHITE QUEER who must never be accepted, because ONLY femme queens and TRANS can represent us!

You have a serious comprehension issue because I didn't say ANY of that in my post R16 so STFU.

In my experience, most of you guys are a lot easier to clock than you think you are.

"Clichéd", R2. Cliche is a noun, not an adjective.

It is also an adjective. Look it up with p0the d.

Look it up with pothead?

The gays are like any other group: we have our share of jerks, loons, abusers, flakes, narcissists, troublemakers, cheaters, thieves, attention-seekers, etc.

But because we are locked in a fight for equality, we are more sensitive to those who make us look bad, in our view.

Coming to theaters near you:

A story about a man who dresses normal, has a career and blends right in. The twist? He’s gay. How can you tell? You can’t.

Guaranteed hit.

OP, are you complaining that flamboyant celebrities somehow besmirch or harm gay people as a whole? The media portrays gay celebrities as the gay celebrities want to be represented, as flamboyant celebrities expressing something of the great variety and historical richness of gay culture in all its transgressive, sometimes wounded, but proud variety.

Why?

Are you somehow unaware that straight and gay people live among each other and know the facts quite well? You even cite that fact.

There's something in this that indicates either disordered thinking or outright homophobia:

[quote]In fact, many of them blend in so well that you wouldn’t know they were gay unless they told you.

What's your actual motive here, please? What is important about gay people being invisible? Why?

I feel like the media missed out on this as well. Remember those gays in Iowa who went viral while playing cards and screaming upon Diana’s death. People were clamouring for more guys in dockers and checkered shirts in mid-America and never got it.

Also… how as a gay man can you reconcile authenticity with “blending in”?

“Normal” is just another word for “heteronormative” -behaviors and habits that are dictated by the habits, tastes and urges of straight people. If you are driven to connect sexually with men , you are intrinsically at odds with the drives that motivate straight people’s daily habits and routines: how they dress, what they talk about, how they spend their free time etc etc.

As long as mainstream, “normal” society is structured around the heterosexual drive to fuck and reproduce, we will always be outliers no matter how crisply we iron the pleats in our khakis

OP seems fat.

This point seems well, moot

Are you trying to run for congress in a a red state, OP? Why would you, and particularly, we care?

What is this “gay community” that you speak of?

Most gays in film are still portrayed by straight/closeted men

[quote]And yet what the media portrays as being representative of gay men is Billy Porter, Sam Smith, Lil Nas X, even Elton John. Not that I don’t like Elton

ugh, what ever bunky

I just watched an episode of Poker Face and two very regular looking and acting American guys ended up being a married couple at the end, which makes the resolution even more fun.

[Quote] What is this “gay community” that you speak of?

Oh, you know, the loving embrace of “YOU FAT WHORE.”

r4 People who use the word "cringy" are most certainly embarrassing.

Cringy cringy cringy!

[quote]The gays are like any other group: we have our share of jerks, loons, abusers, flakes, narcissists, troublemakers, cheaters, thieves, attention-seekers, etc.

See, r8! You ARE represented!

When you find out, r30, let *me* know.

Collectively, we are society’s second-born son, the one who’s attractive but also a little outcast and prone to fucking up.