If President Trump passes away in of congestive heart failure in the next year...

I think there will probably be a meltdown within the party because they'll all be vying for power and influence and won't be able to unite as a cohesive force. Probably won't matter much because the Democrats are stupid and feckless at this point and probably won't do a damn thing to take advantage of any of the chaos.

Two disgusting closet cases.

It will be all of the meanness, without any of the entertainment value.

The one and ONLY one thing that Trump has going for him, is that he has charisma and he can be mildly amusing sometimes.

JD Vance has no sense of humor, he's awkward, he's creepy, and he is extraordinarily hateful.

I predict that he would generate a lot more anger in our population, than Trump ever did.

In fact, I think even MAGATs would turn against him, because he's so unlikable.

PASSES AWAY???

OP, can’t you say DROPS DEAD like a normal human being? Especially with human slime like Trump?

OP can you imagine a future where you can form a coherent sentence?

I can see it going either of two ways if that was to happen. Either Vance would be just as bad as Trump, drunk with his new found power, or he could be so relieved that he is out from under Trump's control (we all know he hates the old fat fool with a passion) that he completely reverses and acts more reasonably.

[quote] I can't imagine President Vance.

Nobody could imagine President Trump either.

An eyeliner in every pot!

I really wish the whole group would catch some horrid disease and drop like flies, but slowly and publicly so we can all watch and enjoy them suffer.

[quote] he could be so relieved that he is out from under Trump's control (we all know he hates the old fat fool with a passion) that he completely reverses and acts more reasonably.

Yes. Because Thiel, Musk, Andreessen, Sacks, Yarvin, and their ilk, who'll be his puppet masters are a very reasonable bunch.

R9, I’d be just as happy to see most of them go to prison someday for their crimes against the country and humanity but of course that’s merely but a dream, at least right now,

[quote]Democrats are stupid and feckless at this point and probably won't do a damn thing to take advantage of any of the chaos

THIS! [bold]Democrats are stupid and feckless at this point and probably won't do a damn thing to take advantage of any of the chaos.

[/bold] Dems might be dancing in the streets, but don't hold your breath about them learning how to fight after all this. I guarantee Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries will be right there now talking about how we need to work with Republicans bla, bla, bla. Like it's our fault they destroyed the country or like they deserve any fair play at this point.

NO just NO. I am all for fair play and exchange of ideas, but that cannot happen until the Republicans pay for the damage they caused and rectify what they destroyed. [bold] You don't let someone try and burn down your house and then welcome them back in just because they lost their ignition source.

Vance is a total sellout puppet. Trump is a puppet too, but he still has this false pride that makes him push back a bit, and create chaos. Vance isn't burdened by that and will totally fall in line.

If Trump is killed, instead of dying from a heart attack, Vance will be so scared he won’t be able to function. Good.

I read this thread title too quickly.

Vance is vulnerable as a candidate. Very beatable. In a Dan Quayle kind of way.

So basically Latino Elf on the Shelf or the Half-Pig/Half-Man of Appalachia

If Trump dies and Vance becomes president:

Rubio's not a [bold]Trump[/bold] Republican -- he's a [bold]Cuban[/bold] Republican.

Big difference.

But he obviously doesn't have the spine to stand up to the myriad evil influences that will besiege him.

Neither does Jaydine.

far more dangerous. trump doesn't even know about or care about the dark enlightenment agenda. jd vance's associates want to carve the country up into feudal serfdoms controlled by paramilitaries with no federal law - his mentor curtis yarvin "jokingly" advocates for grinding up working class people into a fuel source. his more serious "solution" to undesirables is forcefully imprisoning everyone inside a matrix like VR entertainment system.

Apparently, yarvin is in the dumps lately, no longer believing a tech insurgency that enslaves the public is possible because the trump administration is so incompetent and unpopular.

R19 Rubio is playing it cool by showing loyalty to the boss to move his career forward, which in fact he seems to be doing quite well as he's coming across as very strong and committed in his interviews. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a successful run for the presidency next time (even if he doesn't win).

Let's just hope and pray the dems regain control of both houses of Congress and have enough votes to kick both of the motherfuckers out.

R23 Not gonna happen. Haven't you been reading the news?

Look at that picture and ponder - do they hate each other more than they hate themselves at this point? Tough call.

On the Trump health topic, my father, whom I took care of, had a change in his eyes that I can't really describe, but it signalled the end was near. His eyes had a kind of shallow, ghostly look. I saw pictures of Dear Leader yesterday and saw the same eyes.

Vance will be easier for the Susan Collins wing to defect from. They are scared of Trump. They are not and will not be scared of Vance.

I just hope and pray he drops dead live, on camera.

Well since the Republicans are hell bent on ignoring the constitution maybe they'll ignore the line of succession and just auction off the presidency to the highest bidder, or gift it to Putin.

According to Threads there are “witches” who are predicting the big day will be tomorrow the 24th.

[quote] Rubio is playing it cool by showing loyalty to the boss to move his career forward, which in fact he seems to be doing quite well as he's coming across as very strong and committed in his interviews. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a successful run for the presidency next time (even if he doesn't win).

I can't wait to see Big Dicked Gavin Newsom wipe the floor with Little Marco.

R30 Well if “witches” on Threads predict that then it must be true.

MAGA won't go for Little Marco. He's brown.

I hate Vance almost as much as I loathe Trump. But I don’t think he’s insane, unlike Trump.

The line of succession sucks. Vance and after him Mike Johnson. The horror.

I must say, it was better when Pence was next.

Bells will be ringing around the world, but it will only be a chip. The problem is in the party itself.

Let's just hope when elections arrive, people wise up.

Having read Hillbilly Elegy, I hope that Vance shows the humanity he displayed in that book. I know I’m sounding ridiculous…

Where will they bury Dump? Just past the sand pit? Fartlago? New Jersey?

Dump his body in the ocean off the Jersey Shore so it doesn't become a shrine.

The Hudson River is the classic dumping ground for trash.

I wonder who the Republicans would force on him as VP. That would be who's truly running things (like Cheney).

OMG, don't say that, R33!! Little Marco would have a fit! Doncha know that white Cubans like him are are a cut above other Cubans?

And having ridden with a Latino motorcycle group for six years, I can assure you that most Cubans truly believe that. I could tell you stories of things they've said to me, and since I'm white (not Latina, though), I'm supposed to agree.

BTW, "Rubio" means blonde in Spanish.

Well he ain't no blonde and he looks messican so send him back. And send that troll baby beard boy back too. We want a real straight strong man like Trump, and Alpha male asshole like us!

He's sooo straight! So alpha!

[quote]The line of succession sucks. Vance and after him Mike Johnson. The horror.

This isn't like the monarchy where everybody moves up when one leaves. Johnson only gets to the Presidency if: 1) Trump & Vance are out of office at the same time; or 2) Trump is out, and Vance is later out but before a new VP is chosen, thus the office being vacant.

The question is, who would Vance choose as his VP? (I believe a new VP needs to be approved through congress) because that's the real line of succession.

Vance is a Beta Male, that means he needs to find an Omega. Who is below Vance? Don Jr?

Almost nobody who gets to know JD Vance seems to like him. He would be a weak president — especially if the Democrats retake the House in 15 months.

It would be SOOOO Ironic if Dump kicks the bucket and Biden is still around. Will I rub it in? ABSOLUTELY!

Will this be like The Wizard of Oz where everybody sings Ding Dong the Witch is Dead after the deranged leads is murdered?

[quote] Let's just hope when elections arrive, people wise up.

The objective facts over the last ten years have proven that, unfortunately, people have gotten dumber.

Marco always looks like the saddest man in the world.

I imagine him being a George W. Bush type president who's brought out to make scripted announcements but is otherwise uninvolved with anything to do with governing.

[quote]When President Trump passes away in of congestive heart failure in the next year...

Fixed it for you, OP.

All these amateurs take the same class in How To To Look Serious and Presidential as Dump.

Vance won't be as popular as Trump because only Trump "tells it like it is". Not sure why people think that of Trump, but there is no other Republican right now who has the same popularity. Vance and the others are considered DC while Trump is not. I don't see him get the popular vote in swing states.

That doesn't mean he cannot do great damage before the next presidential election, especially if he keeps Stephen Miller on payroll.

Miss Cha Cha Heels & Miss Jaydeen. Thank you Jesus!

[quote]Vance won't be as popular as Trump because only Trump "tells it like it is".

That's a given for any would-be successor. The two Bushes were no Reagan.

[quote]If President Trump passes away in of congestive heart failure in the next year... I can't imagine President Vance.

OP is clearly the type of person who's incapable of simply enjoying a moment and instead has to obsess over the next big problem.

I won’t truly be happy unless Trump spontaneously combusts. Heart failure is too good for him.

It's fine to wish, but don't assume he will die by 2028. The upcoming attempt which they ate openly telegraphing to have Trump run for an illegal and unconstitutional third Trump must be taken seriously.

Anyway, if Trump does pass asay, Vance will have to act like Trump to keep the MAGA crowd intact. Unfortunately, he's shown he's willing to do just that even if in the past he wasn't. He has no scruples. We all wish he'd do a surprise moderate turn, but he can't keep MAGA if he does that and I think he knows it.

Well the good thing is Vance is not liked especially with his non-white wife. He won't be able to mobilize the right like Trump.

[quote] non-white wife

Around here, that's referred to as a beard.

There's a lot of talk about Trump's ill health, maybe the universe is trying to tell us something.

STOP talking about this scenario! It only fuels him to live longer.

[quote]There's a lot of talk about Trump's ill health

Yes, but it's all from people who wish it were true, which colors their judgement.

According to Alex Jones...

Vance acting like Diaper Don is laughable. Vance has nowhere near the insanity and narcissism to pull it off. If he does ascend, he'll be written off as a joke while the party spirals out of control while trying to anoint a successor and figure out the path forward.

I posted this on the Trump Karma thread where his demise is also being discussed. Fits here, too.

Saw either on Twitter or Bluesky that he hasn't played golf in 14 days. That speaks volumes. On top ot the condition of his hand, he probably can't tolerate early morning heat/humidity and it's harder to breathe. Made that much worse by the heart/circulatory problem.

He looked unwell in Alaska. I'm sure the transcontinental flying took its toll. I even wonder if it was cut short because he was feeling unwell and couldn't continue. I don't know specifically about his condition, but the elderly with medical problems are advised against flying. You have to question whether he'll be in decent enough condition to make his coveted State Banquet at Windsor Castle three weeks from now.

[quote]Saw either on Twitter or Bluesky that he hasn't played golf in 14 days. That speaks volumes.

Indeed it does, r69.

Actually he just went golfing yesterday, someone posted a video showing how he's dragging his right leg.

R65 Nah, when it's your time, it's your time.

"Is He Dead Yet?"

He is the only truly evil person that I've ever known.

[quote]He is the only truly evil person that I've ever known.

It may be a sign of the end times that both Congress and the Supreme Court have ceded their power to the least deserving person in the world.

If Trump kicks the bucket, it will be quite ironic if Biden attends his funeral. One of those things former presidents are traditionally expected to do. Will he go? Will MAGA have a meltdown over it? Time to stock up on popcorn.

Please die.

R2 First I’ve heard about Marco Rubio being closeted. Just because u think someone seems gay and is cute and stuff doesn’t make them a closet case. Maybe he is. Any receipts or stories?

Hi "u" at r78! First time here marking yourself as a rube?

R78 never heard, so many years later?

Look into foam parties R78.

[quote] If President Trump passes away

There will be great jubilation and exaltation in the land.

Nothing will change. Trump is a puppet who is indulged by the powers that be. He is following the Heritage Foundation, the authors of Project 2025, and Vance will do the same.

I volunteer to do her makeup!

[quote] ...without any of the entertainment value.

I don't find Trump entertaining in the least.

[quote] ...it will be quite ironic if Biden attends his funeral. One of those things former presidents are traditionally expected to do.

I would hope that all of the former presidents, vice-presidents and first and second ladies (and gentlemen) have the balls NOT to show up. None of them will ever run for office again.

Fuck protocol and "respect for the office."

This country has really sunk low. We may truly never recover from all of this. I guess the question is that whether without their leader can/will MAGA ever effectively coalesce again.

I wonder where the fat ass will be buried if he dies before the end of his term. Maybe in a family plot in Queens? We know Mr. Bone Spurs never served in the military. Is he eligible for burial at Arlington because he served as commander-in-chief? God, I hope not.

Well, I sure as fuck won't be there!

I think the best part of Jimmy Carter's funeral was the visible scowling Karen Pence threw in Trump’s direction when he walked to his pew.

I do wonder if the family will opt for an invitation only, maybe no cameras in the church service because the vast amount of animus that even GOP senators and congressional reps have for the man. They've been dominated and scared by Trump. No way they're going to be able to sit in a pew for what will be a very long service with laudatory, bullshit eulogies and maintain straight faces. You damn well know Elaine Chow is going to pull more egregious stuff than vigorously picking her teeth like she did at McCain's eulogy. I don't think they'd risk this.

Somebody got access to lil' JD's Spotify playlist and it is [bold]ABSURDLY[/bold] gay. Like, starts with Elton John's "I'm Still Standing" and goes downhill from there.

FWIW.

I think they're getting ready to Section 4 Trump to get Vance in the Oval Office. They're itching to do it but they're probably worried how MAGA will react. My guess is, they're waiting for Trump to deteriorate a bit more, where it's VERY obvious he's not fit enough to do the job. Like some sort of public attack that's well documented.

Vance is very unpopular. He never gets any good press.

McConnell had the same bruise and even glitched on camera. He is still with us. Trump is not going anywhere.

They want 10 years of JD so they'll wait until they get that deadline

How about a Baby Trump in a Diaper piñata at his funeral? Each former POTUS and FLOTUS can take a whack at it. Let's make this a fun, festive day!

R86 Yes, all presidents are entitled to be buried at Arlington.

People all over the place are talking about Trump dying. Maybe the collective thought will make it so. Strange shit happens all the time.

R92 A president is different than a senator...especially when you have a whole squad of people plotting to change the status quo.

[quote]I don't find Trump entertaining in the least. . I can't imagine anyone other than MAGAts finding this depressing horror show entertaining.

[quote]If President Trump passes away of congestive heart failure in the next year...

NEXT year!?

I haven't given up on THIS year!

[quote]I don't find Trump entertaining in the least.

I can't imagine anyone other than MAGAts finding this depressing horror show entertaining.

^^ Edited version. ^^

gonna take a bigger hole r95

Someone should set up a public betting site predicting the date and burial location. He would be irked to know how many people betting on his demise.

It would be lovely r103. Imagine how many gambling nutballs trying to help.it along.

Next year:?

The sooner the better. For everyone.

Bury him on the golf course next to Ivana.

R103 - You can go on British gambling sites (e.g. Ladbrokes, Paddy Power, William Hill) to check and get a sense about this. In the UK. people can walk into a betting agency and place a bet on practically anything and they'll give you odds. Death dates and COD of famous people, whether some butter-fingered goal keeper will mess up an easy save and give up a goal, how long Liz Trust is going to last -- practically anything.

Trump’s swollen, discolored hand probably spurred a flurry of wagers. I'm sure there will be all sorts of fun bets about the upcoming state visit. Unfortunately, Americans in the U.S. can't bet or collect due to international money transfer laws, so odds will reflect British bettors mostly. Though, if you're an American tourist there, you can just walk in and place a bet. You just have to be there to collect in person.

Two days...

It will be like the movie The Death of Stalin when he goes with cabinet members jockeying for position and shivving each other.

I think Vance would be a crap president (not that Trump is a good one).

I think he'd initially try to emulate Trump but would fail miserably and nosedive in the polls.

[quote]He would be irked to know how many people betting on his demise.

Yes, the money aspect will annoy him, bookies collecting on his notional death-date. But social media chatter will only be heightened in the DC beltway gossip circuit, and that'll reach his idiotically loyal minions. It's another huge matter to attempt to field, along with Epstein. Moreover beltway diplomats who send back weekly reports to their governments will need to mention this not-unwarranted talk. And said governments will factor in an ailing 'President' around all sorts of vital issues going forward.

OMG, the MAGAts wailing and over-dramatic rending of garments on social media when Dump finally takes a dirt nap will be so much fun to watch. Maybe some of them will commit suicide when their orange leader dies. 🙏🙏🙏

It will be interesting to see what Vance does. He seems very stupid and pliable so don't assume things are going to improve much.

This whole speculation about that fat, orange traitor dropping dead has been absolutely everywhere.

It’s become a cottage industry overnight on YouTube. Even just rando accounts are speculating about how soon he’s gonna croak.

It’s kind of annoying. Stop getting my hopes up! The soonest he’ll croak is October. So get in with your life and stop giving him your energy.

r114, speculating publicly about Donald's obvious decrepitude is a fun and effective way to make him and his cultists sick woth rage.

[quote] This whole speculation about that fat, orange traitor dropping dead has been absolutely everywhere.

So “the walls are closing in” from the first term has been replaced with “death is closing in” for the second?

There IS that, r115.

At a guess, Trump will react against gathering death-talk by doing a rally or rallies to boost his senile ego. He'll take a bruised fistful of uppers to get through his rant - and grace the world with new levels of berserk narcissism. I'm fairly sure we ain't seen nothin' yet.

Hopefully, he'll do that. Because to get through the difficult physicality of doing a rally, he'll have to be pumped full of more drugs which will just speed up the death of his kidneys.

It's now a race to what will kill him first...heart or kidney failure. There's always the chance of a rogue stroke, too!

Whatever happens R119, I hope it's in public and spectacular. Like stroking out live on stage and shitting his pants.

I used to be a nice person but ten years of this asshole has made me mean.

[quote]Like stroking out live on stage and shitting his pants.

This would be the gold standard dream R120. Then to see it beamed out around the world and played over and over and over again. Then anytime anyone in the future mentions Trump the footage would be played again. And don't worry - 10 years of this horrific cunt flap and we all became mean unless we're MAGA I guess.

[quote]This would be the gold standard dream [R120]. Then to see it beamed out around the world and played over and over and over again.

Absolute perfection would be for all that to happen just as he's delivered yet another smug contemptuous sneer at Obama or Biden or both: he says the lines, waits for the roars of crass approval, then nature takes its course. He will be remembered for eternity as the pathetic bitter stupid name-calling man-child the sane world knows him to be. A kind of flawless karma - we can dream.

The newest rumor is that Trump only has 8 months to live. He apparently has advanced kidney disease (hence the swelled hands and ankles), and congestive heart failure.

^^That should have been 6-8 months.

^^That should have been 6-8 months.

For Trump to recently say publicly that "isn't doing well" makes me believe he has been told he's on the way out. If he starts going downhill fast we'll start seeing the pity party from him and his minions go crazy. Trump is a narcissistic sociopath and people like that are natural pity sponges. When times get bad with their health they thrive on pity from others as it gives them comfort to think everyone is thinking about them.

In my secret thoughts and prayers I envision millions of people offing themselves when the bastard finally kicks. I know it won't happen, but a boy can dream, right?

The funny thing is that all of the MAGA crowd who were decrying Biden's mental and physical health will be the same ones playing down Trump's health issues.

Not that they were wrong to point out Biden's declining health as that was obvious too. I believe in consistency - ie it's valid to point out health concerns for any serving president regardless of the party they represent - but so many are selective about their concern.

Biden has top tier staff in his administration to cover for any mental decline he was suffering. They made sure the things that needed to get done got done. Trump has surrounded himself with nitwits, criminals, incompetents, and fools who are even more dangerous than he is. Therefore there is no comparison between Biden's old age decline and Trump's. Until the day he left office Biden was still set on making things better for the country. Trump and his minions mean to do as much damage to the country as possible as long as they're in power.

Biden "had".

[quote]Trump is a narcissistic sociopath and people like that are natural pity sponges.

True, in that it's attention, and he can never get enough of that. However he also despises perceived weakness - and the thought that the world knows he's definitively weak has to create the craving in him to display non-weakness.

Remember how having survived Covid he was photographed looking absolutely preposterous in his Mussolini on the balcony appearance. This week we heard him assert that he's President, so he can do whatever he wants. I don't see him going quietly.

[quote] The funny thing is that all of the MAGA crowd who were decrying Biden's mental and physical health will be the same ones playing down Trump's health issues.

His cultists are going to be in for a real shock when they discover he was a mere mortal all along and not some omnipotent God-King.

I can't wait for his funeral and all of the Cheshire cat looks on the faces of Hilz, Nancy Pelosi, the Bidens, and the Obamas. Just thinking of it makes me so happy!!!

R131, lets start a rumor that Trump actually is invincible and immortal, in line with his messianic aura. What do we have to lose? His cultists will eat it up and look even more stupid and deranged.

Time to revive the custom of suttee. Along with Melania it will be the cabinet and his MAGA supporters. A bonfire the likes the world has never seen.

[quote]I can't wait for his funeral and all of the Cheshire cat looks on the faces of Hilz, Nancy Pelosi, the Bidens, and the Obamas. Just thinking of it makes me so happy!!!

It will look like a Charles Addams cartoon brought to life.

R132 I would certainly hope none of those people would bother to attend the old shit's funeral.

^ I would, to gloat and do a coffin dance.

[quote] None of them will ever run for office again.

Whoops, I forgot about Kamala.

Well, Pelosi and Biden and the Clintons are all knocking on death's door themselves so there wouldn't be too much grave dancing.

Shelly O will have a "previous engagement" and will not be available to attend.

The orange pile of shit is a cult figure. Vance won't have that cult following, and the whole fucking R party will fall apart as they eat each other to vie for power.

Vance won't have the cult following of Trump, but will he have the same blackmail material on the GOP that Trump has?

I was kinda hoping for a Lexi Featherston-type demise.

The only reason Vance was selected is that Trump was required to have a running mate. If he had his way, he would have been the one and only - no V-P

Back when Vance was selected, Trump said he didn't know who he was but his sons had told him he needed to be the VP.

JP Mandel!

Over on Twitter, there are pictures/video of Trump at a Golf outing that supposedly were taken this morning. Don't know if it's really from this morning or just more fake news, and he's still on the MIA list.

"Where is Trump" and variations, have been trending on Twitter today

[quote] Over on Twitter, there are pictures/video of Trump at a Golf outing that supposedly were taken this morning. Don't know if it's really from this morning or just more fake news, and he's still on the MIA list.

A reverse Google image search shows that video to be from June 28, 2025.

Something

Is

Up.

There's no conspiracy going on, he's golfing in Virginia.

So why are they releasing old photos?

[quote]There's no conspiracy going on

Aside from the wet blankets conspiring to end this thread.

This conspiracy theory is giving me flashbacks to Paul is dead in 1969. That one had legs, too.

I'm betting the old fuck will drop dead on the golf course. That's too much exercise of an old sick sack of shit.

If he was dead, JD Vance would be sitting his ass in the oval office right now.

When it does happen, JD Vance had better make sure to keep passing the open windows.

I hate Trump but Vance was completely against helping Ukraine at all, Trump hasn't completely cut Ukraine off like I thought he would, question is has Vance's views on Ukraine evolved, I hate to just hand Ukraine to Putin, the killing spree will make Gaza look peaceful in comparison. If Ukraine looks like it will fall at least half of the population will head for the borders with Europe, destabilizing all of Eastern Europe.

If President Trump passes away someone on the right is sure to claim that the Democrats had him killed, probably blame Hillary and a decent number of his followers will believe it.

Russia hasn't been able to beat Ukraine in two years...a much larger country with supposedly more resources.

Europe doesn't want Russia to win. They fucking hate Putin.

[quote] Russia hasn't been able to beat Ukraine in two years

The US have given Ukraine a lot of intelligence and arms, if the US suddenly started helping Russia instead and cut off Ukraine, Ukraine wouldn't last too long. It wouldn't be a cake walk but I don't think Ukraine could survive.

[quote]If President Trump passes away someone on the right is sure to claim that the Democrats had him killed, probably blame Hillary and a decent number of his followers will believe it.

There's nothing decent about his followers. And your saying that his followers are basically morons isn't exactly headline news.

i am hoping the contents of his will become public. I predict Tiffany will get next to nothing but I have no idea how he will distribute among Barron, Jr, Eric and Ivanka. Plus how much goes to Melania. At one time I would have predicted that Ivanka would get the majority of the estate but she has pulled back while Eric and Jr have become mini versions of Donald. Always up his ass and promoting his craziness.

Did anybody see "Sadie Winters" on CBS Saturday Morning today?

It is an AI creation that looks completely real and sings an AI-written song in a stunningly beautiful voice. Check out the video(s?) on YouTube.

Remember "Big Brother" of 1984 on the telescreen? The Two Minutes Hate?

I predict that will happen to Trump. When he suffers his appropriate and timely demise, his minions will use AI to make a duplicate of him that everyone will see and we will never know he's dead. Like Big Brother, he'll be head of this country forever. And he'll have been dead for [italic]years.[/italic]

Hope I'm wrong.

If it happens I think Vance will be easier to control. He's a piece of shit, but he's not as mentally unstable as Trump. He doesn't seem to come across as a sociopath like Trump. Remember, he knows what Trump is and we all know in private he hates Trump with a passion.

Hopefully the dems will retake control of Congess next year and if Vance gets to the White House they need to put the fear of God into him and make him know is not not free to do whatever he wants.

Trump is an evil psychopath. How anyone could even consider voting for him as president is beyond my comprehension.

It would be so wonderful if Trump has a fatal heart attack tomorrow.

[quote]...his minions will use AI to make a duplicate of him that everyone will see and we will never know he's dead.

Apart from the giveaway glaring lack of live rallies, which gave Trumpy and his deplorables so much mutual joy.

I’m sorry to tell you this, but my mean-as-a-snake grandmother was morbidly obese and had congestive heart failure for 40 years before dying in her 90s.

She was too mean to die, and I suspect Trump is, too.

[quote]If it happens I think Vance will be easier to control.

That's true, but his controller is Peter Thiel, not the American people.

[quote]If he was dead, JD Vance would be sitting his ass in the oval office right now.

Who says he's not?

Vance's activity at present or lack thereof might offer clues as to chain-of-command issues. Also would love to know what top intelligence has been passed to other world leaders.

I don't think the MAGA cult will survive the loss of its orange dictator.

But let's be honest for a moment... The only way forward for any post-Trump Dem president would be to declare the MAGA movement a terrorist organization and prosecute the hell out of them, remove any collaborating congressmen and senators from their office, send the conservative collaborators on the Supreme Court to Guantanamo for treason, and change the Constitution and laws to fix any loopholes that the Republicans exploited. That's never going to happen. And that means the shit show will continue regardless of what the Dems do.

You cannot democratically govern if one half of the country has decided they don't want a democracy anymore.

Why can't people use the word 'die' or 'dies'. 'Passes away' sounds stupid.

R170, if I could, I would give you a thousand W&W’s for that. Truth, every word.

[quote]I don't think the MAGA cult will survive the loss of its orange dictator.

That's why I posted what I did @ R161.

They'll find a way to make him live forever -- like Jesus.

R147, can you provide a link to the search results? I did a reverse image search and didn't get those results.

[quote]Why can't people use the word 'die' or 'dies'. 'Passes away' sounds stupid.

I normally don't care for it, but it's the last thing I'm going to quibble over when it comes to this topic.

Just heard that Musk has decided not to put money into creating a third political party and will instead join forces with Peter Thiel and together they will back Vance for POTUS in 2028.

That's three very unpopular and disliked people right there.

The puppy killer was on Face the Nation this morning but Margaret Brennan was off, dammit. Noem probably planned for that.

Everybody yesterday

No way will Turd stick around the full, dreary term. Spoiled brat does what he wants to, and he'll pass the baton on to Project 2025.

But he still wants that Noble Piece Prize!

[quote]He doesn't seem to come across as a sociopath like Trump.

He does to me!

He's had like three completely different names, and multiple nips/tucks to it. Over the past 40 years, he has had three different last names: Bowman, Hamel, and Vance, and his first name has been abbreviated differently. He is without any real identity, completely unmoored.

R176 So basically Elon is going to stick his nose in another US election and rig it for Republicans. Great.

[quote]No way will Turd stick around the full, dreary term.

You're totally clueless R179.

R171, I prefer… Drawn the curtail and joined the choir invisible… Cashed in his chips… Shuffled off this mortal coil… Kicked the bucket… Bought the farm…

I’m not terribly popular at work due to using those terms when the circumstances permit… Though never when they are tragic…

Popped his clogs is a good one too R183.

Little Marco must be seething surrounded by so many even dumber than himself.

He really thinks he has a great chance to be president after Trump/Vance.

R184 I wholly agree!

[quote] That's true, but his controller is Peter Thiel, not the American people.

If Vance becomes president -- God forbid -- he will deport Thiel to Uganda and nationalize his wealth. Vance is an opportunist, not a true believer. He won't want anyone around trying to manipulate his homosexual shame to THEIR advantage.

That’s probably what he SHOULD do, r187, but Vance seems to be lacking both smarts and balls. So, there’s no way he’d be that shrewd.

In a perverse irony Trump may be the only thing keeping the country from total Theocracy. He still thinks he's King and likes to fire people if they get too pushy.

They will push Bowman/Hamel/Vance as the natural successor in 2028, but he is so unlikable he will lose. It would take every single Deplorable vote (and/or Elon's vote-erasing program) to get him anywhere close to victory because of the loathing of the Trump administration.

And if they get Religious Freedom/Eradication of same-sex marriage before then- many will no longer be energized. Their dreams will have already come true.

[quote] Little Marco must be seething surrounded by so many even dumber than himself. He really thinks he has a great chance to be president after Trump/Vance.

Rubio looks good on paper for a background to be president, but he just doesn’t have “It”. Vance has “It”, but not Rubio.

[quote] Vance has “It”,

Oh, it feels so good to laugh again!!!

Vance looks like one of the pigs from “Angry Birds.”

If Trump dies in office, Fox News and Jake Tapper better brace themselves. They’ll be flooded with demands to apologize for every time they said Biden was ‘too old.’ Funny thing is, the old bird didn’t keel over in office — but Orangina did

Donald's father also lived into his 90s but he was well into dementia by the time he was Donald's age. Also not a morbidly obese speed freak with the most stressful job in the world.

A fortuneteller tells Trump: "You will die on the biggest and most celebrated national holiday."

Trump replies: "How do you know?"

[quote] Also not a morbidly obese speed freak with the most stressful job in the world.

While normally being President is a very stressful job, I just don't see this being the case with Trump. He is having the time of his life, reshaping the country into the country he wants. It isn't like he has the stress of reading or even believing in the daily briefings, which I believe it was Obama who said those things were so scary that they kept him up at night. Trump doesn't work hard, he spends his mornings watching Fox News Fox & Friends goes over the plans for his ballroom, admires his massive flag poles and his concrete Rose Garden, drinks his Diet Coke, signs a few executive orders Stephen Miller puts in front of him and then gets on the telephone and talks to friends. He invites his faithful into the Oval Office for photo shoots, thinks about who or what he can threaten, talks to reporters and then insults a few of them. He is having the time of his life. It won't be stress that kills him, it will be his diet, weight and getting angry at Governors, Senators, Congressmen and the press.

[quote]If Vance becomes president -- God forbid -- he will deport Thiel to Uganda and nationalize his wealth.

I could get behind that!

[quote]Vance has “It”

JD's the new It Girl!

Has Usha Vance done any soft-core lesbian porn like Melania?

[quote] Vance has “It”, but not Rubio.

Only if "It" is an STD, and even then I can't see Vance getting one that Rubio doesn't have.

Trump is a Cult of Personality.

Which is sorta good news for us because once he is gone, he can't be replaced.

Unless MAGA can find someone else to replace him but those types of strong, unique personalities are rare.

Vance is not that kind of personality.

Vance has a personality that makes you want to slap his face — and has the face of a cleaned-up Chucky doll with a brunette dye job.

He will likely lose in 2028 if we manage to nominate a Dem with at least some charisma.

My favorite

Gavin go baby go! I applaud you for pivoting to the center on the trans issue which decimated the Dems this past cycle. Do some more pivoting and the party will survive.

Rubio is another Rex Tillerson

Sufficiently successful in his chosen field so as to draw Trump’s attention

Flattered by the suggestion that he’d be allowed to streamline the State Dept and remake the world

Disgusted both by the idiocy of the man who appointed him; and by the realization that he’ll be forever tarnished by the hell hole into which he’d allowed himself to be sucked.

Except, R185, he'll be associated with the unpopular Trump Administration in 2028.

R4 = Freida Claxton

I'm just saying people can't wait for Trump era to be over with, but the Vance era won't be any improvement.

No Republicans next term please. Let's make that happen. No more psychopath egomaniacs for President.

The Republican agenda is not from the people, they just get the stupidest ones to sip it up.

Vance is an idiot but he's more of a functioning idiot. And, I think many of Trump's stupider plans (the tariff shit) will go away.

Of course, Thiel is a scary, scary techno freak.

Do you think Jaydine ever sucked library cock in college?

Vance is evil, but at least he won't be shoved in our face 24/7 because he is boring and unlikeable. Trumpism has been exhausting for the past 10 years. I am sick of his stunt queen antics.

[quote] Gavin go baby go! I applaud you for pivoting to the center on the trans issue...

*yawn*

Donald Trump has an announcement from the Oval Office at 2PM EST. Sorry the link goes to twitter

Why are they posting "President Trump's 11 Life Lessons" now?

Do I need to buy champagne for 2pm or vodka to drown my sorrows when he turns out to be just fine?

I'd actually like to see him stagger on for another year or so, at least until the midterms; he gives the Dems a clearer target to coalesce against.

I want to see a major stroke but not dead so he remains slurring, drooling, slouched over in a wheelchair as MAGA pretends he's still an alpha male.

R215 not that I can bring myself to watch it but I’m sure they didn’t include his REAL life lessons… like be born rich, don’t pay your creditors, etc.

R216 so long as he exits [italic] before [/italic] Christmas of next year.

The one thing about Vancy Pants is that anything MAGA is too loyal or unwilling to pin on Dump, they may be okay pinning on Vancy. Like cuts to programs and high prices.

Vancy Pants R220. I like it and am stealing it. 😀

^^ just make sure to credit me - R220 from Dump thread #1,327

Even though Vance is not good news, I think the reality is it wont be some smooth transition of power. Think about the Speaker of the House batter they had. None of those people have ethic so I guarantee there will be an explosion of infighting for power. And while they are all fighting over who get to lick JD's balls, that's a good time for Democrats to step up and exploit the situation to their advantage. Heck I would not be surprised if Marjorie Taylor Greene even tried to become Speaker.

The bottom like is when that opportunity arise, Dems can NOT just sit on their ass and stay out of it like their usual loosing strategy. It's 2025, not 1985. Step up! Throw dirt, pile on, give the other side weapons to destroy each other, play both sides, [bold]don't just stir the pot, make it boil.

[/bold]Dems need to stop being afraid to get dirty in a fight.

R208: I'm going to disagree in that there won't be the element of chaos with Vance, he'll pay attention to what's unpopular politically.

Does anyone have a link to the new Treason thread?

Here, R225:

Do you think Republicans will grow collective spines after their leader is dead or will they continue their destroying the country?

Thank you, R226.

I think you know the answer to that, R227. Republicans are lock-step on everything, and when they’re not, they’re quick to cut loose (see Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney).

[quote]Speaker of the House batter

Pics please.

JD will immediately announce his divorce and the country will get its 1st “First Sofa”.

Trump just appeared on TV flanked with his minions. He looks bigger than normal, like he put on another 40lbs in the last week.

[quote]Do you think Republicans will grow collective spines after their leader is dead or will they continue their destroying the country?

They'll continue with what's working for them. If nothing else, their undying devotion to Trump has proved that they have no spines.

R232 - where was that if he called in his presser?

Never mind…r232

lol this was the deal.

Oh no deep state, MAGA, Israeli led government, but wait MAGA America first

who do you think runs the country

What a let down. Someone needs to bitch slap Miss. cholesterol, she had one job.

It was a real letdown seeing Dump alive yesterday.

[quote] While normally being President is a very stressful job, I just don't see this being the case with Trump. He is having the time of his life, reshaping the country into the country he wants.

True. Trump is able to take the glory if things go right and to feel no responsibility if things go awry. Other presidents would be constantly in a state of stress over the ramifications of their actions. Biden was also fortunate to be able not to stress, but because of the cognitive thing. What would put Trump in decline is not having something to do.

[quote]Trump is able to take the glory if things go right and to feel no responsibility if things go awry.

They're not going right, and to judge from the polls, more people are starting to blame him.

[quote]Biden was also fortunate to be able not to stress, but because of the cognitive thing

Got a reputable source for that? In any case, Trump does indeed stress. Don't be taken in by his conman façade of assurance.

[quote]Trump does indeed stress.

Every time he lashes out verbally, he shows his obsessive hate-list just how much they've got to him. Hillary, Obama and Biden, plus scores of others, must just chuckle with recognition every time he goes there again. They're rent-free in his tiny head, and pay no tariffs.

[quote]It was a real letdown seeing Dump alive yesterday.

Welcome to my mornings.