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What would happen if Trump started faking America's economic data?

Lying to your lenders is a bad enough idea when you’re an individual. It’s even worse when you’re a country.

That’s the specter critics of Donald Trump have raised after he fired the head of the US Bureau of Labor Statistics this month after disappointing jobs data.

While there’s no indication the data has been rigged (assertions from the White House aside) – or will be rigged in the future – the White House’s nomination of a partisan to lead the government’s economic data agency was enough to worry global economic and financial circles.

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by Anonymousreply 21August 19, 2025 12:47 PM

There’s historical precedent for that fear. Countries like Greece and Argentina have been both been punished by investors for putting out manufactured numbers in the past.

“President Trump has just taken one very negative stop along a slippery slope,” Alan Blinder, a former vice chair of the Federal Reserve, told CNN. “The next worry is going to be manipulation” of data.

At stake is the health of an economy relied upon by nearly every person on earth, directly or indirectly. The US economy affects everyone from Americans in glitzy Manhattan skyscrapers to, quite literally, garbage pickers living in developing nation slums.

But while Greece famously faked its way into the European Union and Argentina to this day remains embroiled in legal fights over its own sham numbers, there key differences here: The US economy is the world’s biggest, buoyed by its global dominance and its years of strength.

The Trump administration says firing Erika McEntarfer wasn’t about politics but was instead about making BLS data more rigorous and accurate.

“Historically abnormal revisions in BLS data over the past few years since COVID have called into question the BLS’s accuracy, reliability, and confidence. President Trump believes that businesses, households, and policymakers deserve accurate data to inform their decision-making, and he will restore America’s trust in the BLS,” said White House spokeswoman Taylor Rogers in a statement to CNN.

Still, economists warn, the United States is at something of a crossroads now, waiting to see what happens to data series that economists have praised as the gold standard, even if many agree that model updating and modernization could make major improvements to the data’s accuracy.

“There’s no substitute for credible government data,” said Michael Heydt, the lead sovereign analyst at rating agency Morningstar DBRS.

Trump fired Dr. Erika McEntarfer, the commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, shortly after the August 1 jobs report showed sharply slower jobs growth than expected for July – and significant downward revisions to data from June and May. Trump accused McEntarfer, without evidence, of manipulating the reports for “political purposes.”

Analysts begged to differ. The US is “a world leader in providing high-quality data,” Heydt said. “The BLS in particular is kind of a world class institution… The US for a long time has been kind of the gold standard for data.”

William Beach, a former Trump BLS commissioner, told CNN previously that “there’s no way” for McEntarfer or others to rig the data. “By the time the commissioner sees the number, they’re all prepared, they’re locked into the computer system,” he said. “There’s no hands-on at all for the commissioner.”

But large revisions in the bureau’s data have raised eyebrows, not just this month, but in the past as well. A preliminary annual revision in August 2024, for example, showed the US economy had added 818,000 fewer jobs over the past year than previously reported.

Those kinds of large revisions might suggest deeper issues, like how the BLS gets their data and constructs their economic models, said Kathryn Rooney Vera, the chief market strategist and chief economist at financial services company StoneX.

“Several economists and research teams I personally engage with have flagged these as structural issues with the data long before Trump’s involvement or the firing of the BLS chief,” Rooney Vera told CNN.

Still, the US has other sources of data, both public and private, to round out a fuller picture of the economy. Shapiro pointed to the Census Bureau and the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

“These institutions are made up virtually 100% by statisticians and economists,” Shapiro said. “They’re utterly nonpolitical in their jobs.”

by Anonymousreply 1August 18, 2025 8:15 PM

Whaddya mean "if?"

It's happening now, in real time.

by Anonymousreply 2August 18, 2025 9:19 PM

It is already happening, Trump is appointing the Heritage Foundation guy

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by Anonymousreply 3August 18, 2025 9:22 PM

who was at the Capitol on Jan 6th

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by Anonymousreply 4August 18, 2025 9:23 PM

ALL TRUMP NEWS, ALL THE TIME HERE AT DL

Please let him go to orange hell soon.

by Anonymousreply 5August 18, 2025 9:23 PM

IF? He's faking everything already!

by Anonymousreply 6August 18, 2025 9:25 PM

His entire professional life has been fraud, theft, subterfuge, defaults and misrepresentations. Now we are all a part of Trump, Inc.

by Anonymousreply 7August 18, 2025 9:26 PM

No one will believe it and the economy will tank

by Anonymousreply 8August 19, 2025 12:26 AM

You mean like the Biden Administration did?

by Anonymousreply 9August 19, 2025 1:23 AM

What data did the Biden admin fake, R9?

by Anonymousreply 10August 19, 2025 1:31 AM

We’ll be Greece—the country, not the musical.

by Anonymousreply 11August 19, 2025 3:07 AM

US public companies don't have the luxury of faking their company's financial performance and when we see a large amount of them start reporting poor performances, Wall St won't be able to say that it's just the companys' problems.

by Anonymousreply 12August 19, 2025 3:30 AM

[quote]What would happen if Trump started faking America's economic data?

Do the words "Great Depression" mean anything to you?

by Anonymousreply 13August 19, 2025 3:37 AM

We've already had a severe market and real estate crash (2008) being called a Great Recession. What's to stop The Orange Liar from cooking the books? He lies about e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g else, including his weight.

by Anonymousreply 14August 19, 2025 10:03 AM

But the bone spurs were real? Weren’t they?!

by Anonymousreply 15August 19, 2025 10:09 AM

During COVID, he constantly said that if we just didn't test anyone, the COVID numbers would be great! This is just an extension of that thinking.

If we don't report the unemployment numbers, then no one's unemployed!

by Anonymousreply 16August 19, 2025 10:33 AM

STARTING?

by Anonymousreply 17August 19, 2025 11:29 AM

R9 Oh, Hortense, give it up. You will never, ever win.

by Anonymousreply 18August 19, 2025 12:14 PM

R10 None. But Hortense the MAGA cunt loves to come to these threads and take a MAGA dump on them.

by Anonymousreply 19August 19, 2025 12:16 PM

[quote] What would happen if Trump started faking America's economic data?

He's been lying about economic data pretty consistently. His new method of ELIMINATING THE SOURCE OF DATA that contradicts his increasingly faltering self image requires much less effort and spin. He's also getting on and cognitively flailing, and you can see the transformation when the cocktail wears off

He will attempt to eliminate any data point AND ANY PERSON who interrupts his nonstop narrative fantasy about himself. It's getting to be a losing battle.

He's literally and figuratively melting.

Only some can see it now. Soon it will be an unavoidable conversation to have.

Btw, ponder why early reporting of the Dujmp/Putin "summit" indicated that the WH staff was ashen and barely able to conceal their very real fears about what was going on in that room.

Soon, perhaps we will all know the substance of that conversation.

by Anonymousreply 20August 19, 2025 12:35 PM

R20, I think you’re right re: Trump’s brain and overall unfitness to represent the US in a 1:1 meeting with Putin.

by Anonymousreply 21August 19, 2025 12:47 PM
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