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I found this quote by Marilyn Frye in a reddit thread.

“ To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and love they desire… those are, overwhelmingly, other men. In their relations with women, what passes for respect is kindness, generosity or paternalism; what passes for honor is removal to the pedestal. From women they want devotion, service and sex. Heterosexual male culture is homoerotic; it is man-loving.”

by Anonymousreply 15August 15, 2025 11:33 AM

To Marilyn Frye:

Stop smoking your front yard's grass.

by Anonymousreply 1August 15, 2025 4:44 AM

She's clearly insane.

by Anonymousreply 2August 15, 2025 5:35 AM

Label me nuts all you want but she's correct.

by Anonymousreply 3August 15, 2025 5:47 AM

R3 - you're not male. You aren't qualified to comment and neither is Frye.

by Anonymousreply 4August 15, 2025 5:49 AM

I truthfully don't understand why men just don't fuck each other. They'd both have The Owner's Manual.

by Anonymousreply 5August 15, 2025 6:23 AM

Men highly admire and respect women like _____

by Anonymousreply 6August 15, 2025 6:40 AM

Gander meet goose?

“To say that straight women are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., men). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight women reserve exclusively for other women. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and love they desire… those are, overwhelmingly, other women. In their relations with men, what passes for respect is kindness, generosity or maternalism; what passes for honor is removal to the man cave. From men they want devotion, service and sex. Heterosexual female culture is homoerotic; it is woman-loving.”

by Anonymousreply 7August 15, 2025 6:41 AM

It doesn't work because women hate each other.

by Anonymousreply 8August 15, 2025 6:52 AM

In most societies throughout history women hung out with other women, and men hung out with other men, and they got together mostly to have sex. I think this is a much healthier system than what we have, the nuclear couple/family which is supposed to fulfil all our social needs

by Anonymousreply 9August 15, 2025 7:03 AM

Gay men hate gay men like women hate women.

by Anonymousreply 10August 15, 2025 7:03 AM

Why Are gay men cruel to other gay men?

by Anonymousreply 11August 15, 2025 10:43 AM

This reminded me of an article I read years ago about straight men / married couples. It mentioned how in a straight relationship, men are only allowed to be friends with other men - gay/straight doesn't matter. Men are now 'allowed' to have friendships with other women, however -100% absolutely not - because a straight man has truly no intention of only ever being friends with women. That 'friendship' will develop into something else. Every single woman knows that.

I forgot my point, but I already had all that typed out ^^

by Anonymousreply 12August 15, 2025 11:06 AM

It's almost as if there are different kinds of love.

by Anonymousreply 13August 15, 2025 11:14 AM

[quote] In their relations with women, what passes for respect is kindness, generosity...

Stop complaining. This sounds pretty good to me.

by Anonymousreply 14August 15, 2025 11:30 AM

[quote] Gay men hate gay men like women hate women.

Only if those other gay men show the negative characteristics/qualities that are associated with women.

by Anonymousreply 15August 15, 2025 11:33 AM
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