What country/culture do you think is overrated?

Jesus. Did some South Korean guy cheat on you with your best friend, OP?

John/PMBT?

FF..

This won't end well.

You could say the same about Chinese culture

I think Italian men are way overrated. They’re not ugly. It’s just that everyone carries on about how hot Italian men are but if you go to Italy they are rather ordinary looking. I’ve seen way hotter men in Norway, Sweden, Germany, and Estonia. Spain does have hot men though.

Korea is also extremely racist.

South Korea's idol system is also very suspect and bordering on abuse. Every member of BTS looks miserable now. They need better guidance, or just time to enjoy their money.

Great. North Korea has discovered DL as a propaganda platform.

I hear men are very manly there and food is plentiful and delicious .

They all look the same, same hair, pale skin and dress style

R6, I've heard that from a lot of people about Italian men. Everyone says Spanish men are way hotter. I wonder why Italian Americans are often hotter? Maybe it's because most are from Sicily.

R11 probably because they have a little bit of something else mixed in with them. Maybe one of the ancestors who arrived in America married a German or an Irish or something

Are Greek men actually hot? If not, then Greece. My Colombian friends were insisting that Greek men are the hottest they've ever seen but I've never heard anyone else say that. Obviously, taste is subjective.

[quote]Korea is also extremely racist.

As is the US.

r6 Northern Italy has some of the most beautiful people on the planet.

R14 I don’t think you can really compare. The US has vastly different cultures on the coasts vs in the middle/south. This culture clashes all the time. By contrast, South Korea is extremely homogenous and they have the same values. In fact, it really wasn’t that long ago that South Korean schools tough children that Koreans are the master race. So your theory is flawed.

[quote] As is the US.

There is no comparison. Koreans are racist to anyone who doesn't look white or East Asian (and even this gets dicey).

R17 I was having a conversation one time with a Taiwanese fuck buddy. He said to me “we don’t really like Koreans, we find them kind of mean.”

R18, totally not surprising. The Taiwanese love Japan but I think they really dislike mainland Chinese people and Koreans. Taiwanese people seem more accepting (or just less intolerant) than the other East Asian groups.

[quote] Northern Italy has some of the most beautiful people on the planet.

On instagram, I mostly just follow friends but this is one influencer I follow from (I think) Northern Italy. I find him extremely attractive.

I agree with OP, maybe everything he says is kind of true, but worse, the Koreans eat dogs.

And cats.

Koreans eat dogs and cats. For God's sake.

Those Korean boy bands all look like girls. I don't get it and, yes, to the weird white, luminescent skin. Their beauty ideal seems am awful lot like anime-like sex robots.

Asian cultures in general have alot of great things about them, mainly the focus on the consideration and respect of others, as well as how convenience oriented they are, but the work culture, the obsession with corporate success, the repression just turns me off from ever staying there more than a couple of weeks.

Also, certain (not all) middle eastern countries. I teach english to alot of people from there online and though there are of course exceptions, the less said about their entitlement, rudeness and toxic machismo culture, the better.

I think Japan is overrated. I have been there many times (work and pleasure) but I fail to see what everybody sees. Also, Buenos Aires was a huge letdown.

R21, the breeding, selling, and slaughtering of dogs for consumption has been banned in S Korea, effective 2027, reflecting the changing national attitude towards dogmeat consumption in that country.

American, hands down. The food makes you fat and prone to diabetes and heart disease. The people are flat-out mean and dumb and proud of it when you set foot outside the most liberal areas. There's all this civilian gun violence that we do not have elsewhere. And more.

The Nordic cultures are highly ranked for quality of life, but the food is bland, the cities are boring, the people are introverted, their crime dramas are depressing and hygge is frau shit.

We can play this game with every culture, really.

As a non american, I agree with everything except meanness. If anything Americans have the reputation of being overtly friendly/nice. Sometimes too much. Except maybe the midwest.

Granted, I am a Midwesterner and thus biased, but I have lived in many other regions of the country, r28, and I would say Midwesterners are among the warmest and friendliest of Americans.

R24, why was Buenos Aires a huge letdown?

[quote]Koreans eat dogs and cats.

I'd eat a cat before I'd eat pussy.

[quote]Those Korean boy bands all look like girls.

They sure do............ How about these girls?

[quote]There is no comparison. Koreans are racist to anyone who doesn't look white...

Apparently, you are unfamiliar with MAGA.

R33 only someone who has never traveled outside the United States compares everything and everyone to MAGA.

The South Koreans have benefitted by the American presence until now. They’re taller and heavier than pre-war Koreans, and male penis size has on average increased considerably.

All that Pepsi and Wonder Bread has had an effect. Only time will tell if it’s beneficial or if they’ll all get colon cancer thanks to an increasingly Western diet.

I followed a German girl's RV tour across the US. Everyone she ran into was kind and friendly. Even the red staters in rural areas. No one shot her.

Austrians are total cunts. Germans, interestingly enough, have been wonderful in my experience.

Effeminate R32 but nothing like the kpop boys.

R31 The dogs and cats aren't the half of it. After watching the movie Parasite my view of Korea has totally changed. Great movie if you haven't seen it I highly recommend it. It looks like an awful dystopian place with terrible inequality driving the rot.

[quote]Effeminate [R32] but nothing like the kpop boys.

Yeah, nothing like Shonwu.

...or Bakeho

Scandinavians. I fucking hate them and their stupid-ass rules.

Italy. A pathetic circus of governance. A people clinging into a past that they probably don’t even descend from. Absolutely irrelevant to the modern world. Trashy and tacky. Dim witted people.

South Korean pop music is the shit. Just go watch KPop Demon Hunters - a fucking cartoon on Netflix, and the songs are 10x better than anything out today. Their skin care is insane, I religiously use a Korean sunscreen that is amazing. Never burns my eyes, goes on smoothly and sinks in my skin. Their cars are shit but taking over the US.

R43 *to

If you're a semi-white person, does it make you racist if you Scandinavians and Germans and WASPs?

They think they're all that. But as an Italian, we had high civilization going on while these motherfuckers were living in caves and fucking their sisters still. R43

*if you hate ^^

[quote]A people clinging into a past that they probably don’t even descend from.

JFC not this shit again. DNA results have proven your ignorance.

R42, yes KPop Demon Hunters is THE THING right now among girls age 7 to 10. They're obsessed. Its aesthetic is hypercaffeinated animation-on-steroids every second, but at the same time it's actually kind of good.

Whose ass would you rather see - Han's or Harry Styles'?

[quote] Apparently, you are unfamiliar with MAGA.

No, I'm very familiar. All of America is not MAGA. Meanwhile, incels are a wayyyy bigger deal in Korea than America.

Middle-America whites. I didn't realize just how FUCKED UP you all were until Trump.

I'm going to Korea for the first time in November and now you're making me rethink my choices!

I've traveled everywhere in Europe and my favorite countries are Germany, Italy and Sweden. I've found the people there to be the friendliest and most appealing.

At the bottom of my list are Austria and Poland.

R46 and now your Postal Service cannot even get a letter delivered on time.

R53, why would you listen to anyone on DL, including me? Go and you'll be happy you did.

R53, you should still go.

R54, Germans and Swedes friendly?

[quote]Middle-America whites. I didn't realize just how FUCKED UP you all were until Trump.

Southerners?

R59, everything from Idaho to Ohio.

R41, can't open those. No clue what you're going on about but saying kpop twinks look like twinks seems to have set you off. Get a grip.

R59, and in general, just white Americans.

Nobody in Europe thinks of themselves as some "pan-white" like these stupid shit-heads do. They have no culture, no language of their own. They think of themselves as "white" in a way that Europeans never do.

R62, you might put away that broad brush and pluck the chip off your shoulder. As a Southerner, I bear no resemblance to whatever you're on about and what is "pan-white"? We speak English, various dialects, but why should we have our own language when we descended from mainly English stock?

Seriously, you sound angry and hysterical.

French. Their food is dated and their style of dress is boring. I appreciate the effort to look put together but it isn't an attractive style to me.

R63, no, I'm just kind of over you all and your Trumpy bullshit. What is your ethnicity, by the way? The last time I checked, white southerners overwhelmingly chose "American" as their ethnicity.

Ah, makes sense now. The same troll who is getting worked up over kpop stars likened to twinks is pissed about southern Americans. He must be Korean or really invested in kpop.

Damn, there's unbalanced freaks on DL.

R65, and by the way, I'm neither angry nor hysterical. But bless your heart.

japan

hide-bound and xenophobic and rurally very backward

R65, no we usually claim Caucasian.

Yes, you sound angry and hysterical and we're sick of Dump's bullshit too. Count yourself lucky, you don't live here.

R69, oh sweetie, what you think is "angry and hysterical" is just Italian-Americans' natural disposition. Unlike 'y'all" we're very direct and call a spade a spade. No time for your fake bullshit.

While Asian countries have their own cultural scripts that are very different from ours, I’ve found that the Chinese are very “American” - pragmatic, pushy and very openly “we’re number one!”; the Japanese are sort of “Canadian” - very a rule-bound and with a stolid politeness that masks a firm desire to keep you at arms length; and the Koreans are sort of “Mexican” - much more openly emotional, very family-oriented and obsessed with keeping up class appearances and looking good.

None are overrated. Most people are very sour and provincial about other cultures. This thread an example.

I also agree with R71. The chinese are underrated by Americans. They should be fast friends.

Bullshit, R70. Take a pill and chill, sweetie.

[quote]is just Italian-Americans' natural disposition.

Most Italian-Americans today are fully assimilated and just like other whites. Italian Americans in New England especially. It would be like saying Irish-Americans in the year 2025 are hyper-religious devout Catholics who don't use birth control and go to church 25 times a week.

The ignorance of quite a few DLers about modern society and the total assimilation of various ethnic groups is pretty bizarre.

R6- I was in Portugal recently ( I was the dude who started the thread about NOT getting laid on the gay cruise) after the cruise for two days. The concierge in my hotel was a young bearded guy HOT and my taxi driver to the museum the first day was young and bearded and TOTALLY hot- so I must add Portugal to the list of countries with significant numbers of hot guys.

R74, I mean, given that you're a white southerner, one might think that you should probably shut the fuck up given your horrible and very well-earned reputation. But nope, here you are, running your stupid mouth.

OP_ Since we are on the topic of OVERRATED I must mention French cuisine.

R77, seriously, where is the vitriol coming from and why do you claim to be American yet sick of "your" Trump? You're either lying or just trolling at this point.

Yes, do shut the fuck up, precious.

R79, I'm from California, and I just don't like you people. At all.

You motherfuckers want to give us Trump and Republicans and Evangelicals and yet you act so "surprised" that somebody doesn't like you?

GO fuck yourself.

Girls! Girls! You BOTH sound awful.

I want to give you Trump? I loathe Trump.

Are you in Salinas and named Matt? That might explain the psychotic rage...🤔

No, please, go fuck yourself with a nail encrusted bat.

r6 I concur with you about Portuguese men. Very hot and sensual. Portuguese-American men, too. MA and RI are full of them.

R82, but you white southerners gave us Trump.

r58 Concerning the Swedish part of the equation: It's necessary to define what's meant by "friendly." Setting aside drunken Swedes (God help us), it's part of the Swedish national character to be introverted, standoffish, and withdrawn, which, yes, certainly comes across as unfriendly in itself (to those of us who hate extroverts, it comes across as blessed relief; but never mind that right now). [italic]But[/italic], if, say, a stranger appears to be in distress, or is clearly lost, a Swede will typically drop the introversion and right on the spot make "above and beyond" efforts to help that person get out of the situation--which is "friendly" or even better than friendly. Of course, if the next day on the street you happen to run across the person, introversion rules the day again and they'll look past you.

The late Teena Marie had a great song about Portuguese men.

Did Teena Marie make a song about southern white cunts like R82?

A lot of people gave you Trump, dear. Evangelicals, Hispanics, GenX, etc. Trump cut across all racial and cultural boundaries.

I'm sorry but fuck the Chinese commie bastards and they eat dogs too. They have a dog meat festival where thousands of dogs are slaughtered.

They will sell their mothers to make $1. I wouldn't trust them cunts.

R88, and yet somehow your states always reliably vote blood-red. No other region does so in such reliable numbers. Why is that? Please enlighten me as to the white Southern psyche.

It's called gerrymandering and rigging elections, dear. I live in a once blue area, now purple, who could turn it blue again if not for corrupt politicians.

There is no southern psyche that I've heard of. I'm an individual. You're enraged over nothing, Matt. Can I call you that? As I said, you're an angry, mentally ill troll.

R91, not Matt. Wrong person. Wrong ethnicity. And as far as I remember, he's a Republican, just like the majority of you white southerners.

Okay, not, Matt but still mentally unstable.

R93, I'm just have a conversation with you, my dear. I'm not sure why you're so upset that I'm calling out white southerners for their white southern behavior?

Are you triggered?

[quote] I concur with you about Portuguese men. Very hot and sensual.

R6's post doesn't mention anything about Portugal.

[quote] A lot of people gave you Trump, dear. Evangelicals, Hispanics, GenX, etc. Trump cut across all racial and cultural boundaries.

This is why I hate all those narratives that still exist about Trump just being a product of white people. Did these people miss the results of the last election? He made huge inroads with black men, Asians and Latinos.

Not at all, troll. Why would i be upset about being called what I am? You aren't having a conversation. You were immediately triggered at my comments about kpop and have been on a rampage since.

R96, and yet somehow white people, specifically white men, remain his bread and butter. Why?

R97, you are extremely confused. I said nothing about kpop and I couldn't care less about that topic.

Whoops, I meant r76, not r6!

When I looked at your posting history it said otherwise. If it's an issue take it up with Muriel.

R98, because they are ~ 70% of the country.

R96 is right. Trump had a ton of Hispanic and Muslim votes. NY Italians loved him.

R101, you're a very dizzy confused little bitch. But in any case, this is when DIRECT messages would be useful on Datalounge, because I would love to directly message you and continue our little tête-à-tête one-on-one rather than hijack this thread.

Someone is dizzy and confused and it isn't me. Ta-ta.

I don't DM insane strangers on the internet so it would be in vain.

R105, how very southern of you. Twat.

Lots of Asians love trump!!!

R107, so does Po White Trash like R105.

How very moronic of you. Twat.

We can do this all day, sweetheart. I'd suggest though we cease as to not hijack the thread.

Honey, I'm pure southern upper middle class. Not po, at all. As if CA doesn't have po white trash too. It's everywhere. You're very myopic.

R109, yeah, let's do that, cunt. Because I can keep going. You southerners think you can hold a "grudge." HA, motherfuckers. You don't even know a real grudge is.

No one cares about your grudge. I don't hold grudges so not sure where "you southerners" came from. I haven't heard that one before.

Off to work now but I'm sure I'll be back. Take a pill and a little nappy poo. I still say you're Matt. Same psychotic rage trolling.

The K-pop boys are trapped in that image. People snap a lot of candids of them doing their military service and these guys are quite hot without all the makeup and dyed hair.

R111, you're not upper-middle class. You certainly don't compose yourself as such.

You're here. Fighting in the gutters with me.

Ta-ta, wannabe-Temu Tennessee Williams. And just know if I EVER came across you, I'd make very quick work of you.

[quote] Germans, interestingly enough, have been wonderful in my experience.

When you say Germans, what do you mean? Berliners, Rhinelanders, Saarlanders, Saxonians, Bavarians, Hessians, Thuringians, Saxons, city boys or country boys?

Non-Germans forget how culturally heterogeneous Germany is. It's still very much a federation of states with their own distinctive characters.

Not to paint with a broad brush, but most Caribbean islands are just not worth the hype. Small, hilly places with not great infrastructure with run-down small cities - all trying to sell their special local cocktail/punch.

There are some differences based on history, but today - a lot of it is the same vibe, and it's not a great one.

I don't get the appeal.

R116, I really enjoyed Old Havana as a unique Caribbean offering, but you can do it in a day, and the rest of Cuba just feels like Tampa Bay as done by the soviets.

Quaking in my boots R14. Never aspired to be Tennessee Williams. A bit overwrought, don't you think?

Ladies, please. You’ve both lost your minds. Worse still, you’re not doing funny or witty or snarky.

Slag each other with more enthusiasm than you’re managing here or stop trying.

The United States and Americans in general. Your 'Dear Leader' President has proven it.

R117 - I would have to think Havana is an exception as little post-Castro development has kept the historical charm - although decrepit from pics I've seen online.

I'm talking US and British Virgin Islands, Jamaica (blech), Cayman islands, even Puerto Rico is a dump that is saved by the old town.

Hot, humid, poor infrastructure, run-down - then packed with overweight, obnoxious middle and boomer-aged white straight couples. No thanks.

R118, I'm not the one claiming to be from some southern aristocratic background. That's you, baby. I will openly pull your ass down to the gutters and I will fuck your shit up.

[quote]The concierge in my hotel was a young bearded guy HOT and my taxi driver to the museum the first day was young and bearded and TOTALLY hot- so I must add Portugal to the list of countries with significant numbers of hot guys.

How do you think Brazilians got to be so hot?

brazilians, are they gansters?

Japan.

Since when is upper middle class southern aristocracy?