Our long national nightmare is over

NOOOOO!

Good riddance, kill it with fire.

I know it's expensive to produce, but it does bring in the ratings for HBO. I wonder what the deal is?

*gasp*....today we mourn

What the fuck are we going to hate watch together now?

Garbage show filled with the ugliest people on television.

Burn the negatives.

OP do you mean Sarah Jessica Parker's career or the reboot?

And Just Like That...The Movie. She can't let this gravy train go.

It really could have been so much better.

MPK lost me at "popular series."

I hope it ends with Carrie’s entire unearned wealth stolen by a nonbinary financial advisor and she has to resort to being a prostitute for the blind. Miranda suffocates to death while eating another fat woman’s pussy. And the dumb one gets run over her by her Asian daughter who is trying to learn to drive.

Cattrall and Fields are fucking laughing their asses off.

I'll be back.

R12. Chip or W.C.?

Time for a DIVORCE reboot!!!!!

Atrocious, witless writing and plots bordering on science fiction. Toss in an insufferable crew of decrepit, homely crones and it might be the worst program currently on television.

This cancellation is like a relief, akin to a huge dump after a week of constipation.

Parker, sadly, is being put out to pasture.

[quote] Cattrall and Fields

Never heard of them.

It’s Field. No extra S. Patricia FIELD.

The entire show was like a practical joke. When one plot involves a mean, nasty lesbian having sex with a nun played by Rosie O’Donnell, it’s like o giant troll on the audience from the show runners. It’s as if they were daring HBO to cancel it.

But -what will we hate watch now?

I actually liked "Divorce" much more than this. AJLT spent three seasons trying to find a compelling storyline for at least one of its characters, without much success.

I guess it’s back to selling ugly shoes for SJP.

R12 The FUCK are they laughing about? They ain't got jobs either.

Here’s hoping the last scene is her waking up and saying it was all a dream.

The lack of hype to usher in this last season said it all; even the network and producers and publicity staff couldn't fucking be bothered.

It's an end long overdue.

R15 Divorce was The Wire compared to AJLT.

Good! That's what they get!

Let's hope Cynthia doesn't fuck up TGA the way she's fucked up this one by inserting herself into the writing process.

Like pigs to the trough DL's best come slobbering back to the SJP/horse puns, Will they take their own words to heart and put themselves out to pasture now that the race has ended? .

I know it wasn't good, but, damn, I found it really comforting.

Hopefully, this allows Cynthia more time to spend on hunger strikes, ironing her wife’s jockstrap and being an unlikeable, angry lesbian.

Actually R21, that was one of the funnier episodes.

[quote] Let's hope Cynthia doesn't fuck up TGA the way she's fucked up this one by inserting herself into the writing process.

I've decided Ada will reveal herself to be a lesbian, and will have an affair with a non-binary Hispanic-Irish stand-up comic who is especially good at finger-banging.

Julian, take note.

R33 I second that emotion. It's a very ugly country filled with mean victims and want to be dictators. I work in it and when I go home at the end of the week I want something that soothes me. These familiar faces - in many ways as calming as watching The Golden Girls-let me breathe. Yes the writing is sub par compared to even their second film. I never laughed out loud and hard the way I did when that pussy shot in Samantha's face. I think for me I saw it as a thin drama. Michael Patrick lost all sense of place and timing and purpose. Often their comic moments made me think how much I really miss SATC. This show made SATC look The Wire. I mean were we really going watch Carries at 65 dating. If you are happy she ended up with Big then your show is done. I don't blame the actors. Really good parts are few- get the money while you can. Acting is job not enlightenment. I won't miss it but I will miss the characters( except Aidan. I never liked him and I always thought he wasn't smart enough for Carrie). But I'll live. This why Mary Tyler Moore stopped her show. A sitcom only has a short shelf life. Or else it will end up like MASH.

R11 needs to be an executive at HBO. Hell, give him the whole goddamn network. I'd pay to watch that. Everyone in America would pay to watch that.

And WHAT WILL WE HATE-WATCH TOGETHER?

How about...The Gilded Age? That show sucks too, right?

I watched it and will miss it even though I have felt it could have been a much, much better show. They shot themselves in the foot by starting off the show with Big dying and having sad Carrie moping around the first season. The show should have started with Carrie already having gotten over his death. Also, that Che Diaz was a complete washout from the get go. No way Miranda would have fallen head over heels with that person as her first foray into lesbianism. And they should have focused on Carrie, Miranda and Charlotte, and possibly Anthony, as the main characters, with more guest appearances from actors from the original series. The new women just never clicked.

Cynthia Nixon wrecked her own character, like she does everything else. I know everyone likes to paint Cattrall or SJP as the villainess of the series, but it's really Nixon.

The crusty old sardine can just couldn't stand to play it straight anymore, or to play a part as-written. She had to bring her batshit politics into it, and drag down the whole show. She's like a low-rent Susan Sarandon, always ranting and hijacking other people's microphones for her screeds nobody wants to hear.

Check this, Red: No one wants to see a story about menopausal shrews going dyke at 60. No one wants to be shame-baited by a podcast host of indeterminate gender. No one wants to see an awful character dump her decent-guy husband and Get Her Groove Back with a series of woefully unattractive Big Lesbian Mules. That may be your disgusting personal life, but it's not your character. And nobody tunes in to see YOU.

Are we sure Sarah Jessica hasn’t gone lesbo, too? Just look at her spouse. Billie Jean King called it a dyke.

Sarah Jessica is sucking up to Cynthia to get her something, anything on the Gilded Age. I would love to see her as a downstairs maid who gets trampled on by Mrs. Fish heading to the buffet.

[quote]Check this, Red: No one wants to see a story about menopausal shrews going dyke at 60.

But everyone wants to see a story about literal caftan-wearing old queens on "Mid-Century Modern"? Cunt, please. Get the fuck over your MOMMY ISSUES and sick misogyny already.

[quote]I know it's expensive to produce, but it does bring in the ratings for HBO.

Ha! It started out shitty and got progressively shittier. Entirely predictable given SJP alienating a core cast member. The anemic ratings reflect it.

"While And Just Like That… started strong in terms of new HBO Max signups as well as ratings, with a premiere ranking among the top 10 in HBO Max’s history, viewership has waned over time. The Season 3 premiere was watched by 429,000 households, per Samba TV, down from 463,000 in Season 2."

For comparison's sake, "The Last of Us" averaged 32 MILLION viewers an episode. Even the shitty "House of the Dragon" got 25 mil each ep. AJLT barely got a million, even after factoring in beyond daily + 3 ratings. And are you cunts aware that THOSE cunts (on the show) collectively made $5 million per episode? "The Last of Us" has a TOTAL budget of $10 mil per ep, even when Pedro was on.

AJLT could've been decent without that shrew Sarah Jessica and her faghag-BFF MPK – and with the COMPLETE original cast – but they got fucked that one harder than me at Studio 54 in '79. There is truly zero financial argument for a show that is beyond tired and CLEARLY not resonating with anyone over the age of 35.

I saw this and thought The Orange Menace bought the dirt farm.

I hate to say, "wishful thinking" but it was.

R43 = Cynthia.

[quote] But everyone wants to see a story about literal caftan-wearing old queens on "Mid-Century Modern"?

Actually, they don’t. It was cancelled after one season.

Try doing your homework before screeding, R43. You look like a fool.

We'll always have Che Diaz.

[quote] Cattrall and Fields

Totie Fields?

It's DEAD to US!

My spouse and I watch it every week and pause repeatedly to ask how can it be this bad? But still we watch.

But, honestly, how the hell could this be so bad? They must have had so much money thrown at them. I’d say AI was writing the scripts but AI is better than this. Most writers don’t have work. How the hell couldn’t they find a few good ones in the unemployment lines?

Such a shame. I was so looking forward to this remake.

I’m the same age as most of them. This could have been the new Golden Girls and not a sad replay of daring in your 30s when you’re in your 60s.

Post menopause, fellas, no woman is focused on sex. That’s why so many of us take up gardening. We take up hobbies, hang out with friends, enjoy a lack of drama.

Carrie was the least relatable of the bunch. How did they get this so wrong?

[quote]Such a shame. I was so looking forward to this remake.

That was your first mistake.

I hate watched it until Steve's wife got fingered while she was supposed to be taking care of Carrie. Who gets fingered in their sick friend's kitchen?

Truly the ugliest cast in the history of television.

Kim Cattrall could give them all seizures by saying she’s happy to do as many scenes as they want in the finale [bold] : o

Sorry Mom @ r43

Best news I've heard in awhile.

[quote] Totie Fields?

QUITTER!

They should write off the series as a dream and Carrie waking up next to Mr. Big. Or maybe some of the Square Pegs surviving castmembers.

Mid‑Century Modern has not been cancelled. The 10-episode first season premiered on Hulu on March 28, 2025, and has received strong reviews (around 89% on Rotten Tomatoes) and solid viewership. Hulu hasn’t announced a renewal yet, but the creator has expressed interest in a Season 2, making cancellation unlikely at this stage. Still around it seems.

Kim Cattrall was smart to avoid this dumpster fire, even though she could've made a ton of $$$. I admire that about her.

End it with Gracie Law waking up next to Jack Burton and asking him to remind her never to eat Chongqing hotpot just before going to bed again.

[quote] Or maybe some of the Square Pegs surviving castmembers.

I like that idea.

I kind of wish they’d hired Valerie Cherish to play Samantha in this horror show. That would have been so funny.

Note to Self: TLDR: Lisa Kudrow should do guest spots on bad shows as Val.

OP You got my hopes up, I thought you were going to say Trump croaked.

The Square Pegs set kept Colombian coke cartels in business, from what I've heard.

Carrie is a bitch!

Seema will be hanging out at a bar in a town near you soon.

Where is the Miranda spinoff?

R69 I said that!

[quote]R67 Carrie is a bitch! — The entire planet

And an addled Charlotte Rae.

This thread is like 75% one person, if not more.

Oh thank FUCK for that. I could never understand how it kept getting renewed.

they shoot horses, don't they?

Glue factory R74. She's well overdue too.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

I have always been intrigued by her interest in shoes.

If the NYPost had any balls left, they'd put this story at the top of their Entertainment section with the headline "HBO'S HATED 'SEX' SEQUEL OFF TO THE GLUE FACTORY!"

Neither of those shows (SATC and AJLT) ever appealed to me. Now that it's finally canceled I'm fairly certain I will go to my grave only ever having seen SJP in "Square Pegs" and that Christmas movie.

I actually enjoy the "Family Stone" - Luke Wilson keeps shouting "Jordan Marsh!" which warms the cockles of my suburban Boston heart

R79 = Drunken Frau

That movie sucked out loud. Total granny chick flick, and not the best one out there.

Pity.

Loved SATC. Hated the sequels.

My favorite character was the proto gay one, Samantha.

The original focussed on single women in their 30s navigating the dating scene in NYC. AJLT should have focussed on widow Carrie, divorcee Miranda and widow with two kids Charlotte navigating the dating scene in their 50s. Instead they introduced useless, dull characters the audience didn't connect with and hired NYU students to write the scripts. It deserved to fail.

Sorry but I refused to watch without Samantha. Shouldn't have offered her a Brinks Truck filled with cash.

R60 = written by AI.

R79. “Ed Wood” is a good movie if you haven’t seen it

I was surprised it lasted more than one season....We were fans of the original show but we could only watch one episode then 15 minutes of the second

I couldn't make it past the beginning of season 2. It was as enjoyable as a root canal. Charlotte and Miranda seemed brain damaged compared to their previous selves. I don't care about their bratty kids. And the heavy handed wokeness was the cherry on the shit sundae.

Do I have to sign up and pay extra just to watch the final episode of this crap?

[quote]Kim Cattrall could give them all seizures by saying she’s happy to do as many scenes as they want in the finale : o

Samantha in the finale acting like everything's OK now would be a perfect ending. Get the $ Kim!

I suspect HBO realized that this was not going to be the syndication bonanza and space filler that SATC was. It may draw in first run audiences, but it probably doesn't generate re-watchings like a truly popular show. Hate watching is not something one does repeatedly.

If the show was truly camp rather than just plain incompetent, it might have more of a future---even a movie that often is quite dull like "Valley of the Dolls" has substantial camp appeal and if SJP realized how silly her character was, she could become the next Faye Dunaway with a bit more scenery chewing. And Charlotte has always had camp potential with her prissy Fifth Avenue outlook.

HBO Max did not cancel. Showrunner was out of ideas, cast was tired and ready to move on, and producer has checked out. HBO Max was prepared to renew. It is a marquee property.

r92's post could have been written in Season 1.

It's about time this show, and its creator, were put out to pasture.

R93, it was three long seasons of a poorly written, weak series. However it is an A+ property to HBO Max. It is prestige and with SATC on streaming platforms now, it was destined to get more viewers.

Guess it's back to watching Mr. Ed reruns now.

Please...you're slashing their wrists over it. You'd watch and then pretend to be outraged over it and asking yourself why it still existed. It's because of most of you we got 3 seasons to begin with.

R97 "your" not "their"

You have to admit, this would have been a totally different show if Kim Cattrall has returned.

What!? No more clicikity-clack shoes on parade? Oh-hhhhh, no!!!!!!

[quote]They must have had so much money thrown at them. I’d say AI was writing the scripts but AI is better than this. Most writers don’t have work. How the hell couldn’t they find a few good ones in the unemployment lines?

It was pointed out by one view that Nicole Ari Parker's character mentioned her dead father in the first season. And then here we are having him dying again. The show was completely lazy in its writing.

The show also lost a huge character in it AJLT run - the City itself. Sarah always said that it was a main character but the women were hardly in it. It wasn't involved in any of their storylines. That is the problem when all of your characters are fabulously wealthy that money is never an object. It's not realistic, not for NYC. You have Carrie begrudgingly moving into a 16 million dollar palace in the west village. You have rats in your back yard? Rip it out and spend 50k putting in a new one. Feeling lost? Have a fight with your boyfriend over a $7500 dining table. You came across the apartment of your dreams? Ok, just go ahead and bid 150k over asking. You run a stupid bread delivery service on the Upper East Side, the likes of which didn't even exist in gayest era of Chelsea? Open that storefront that is probably 75k a month in rent. Money is a huge issue in NYC, even with people who have it, because they always want more and are never living within their means. It was WILDLY unrealistic, and something no NYer could even relate to, rich or poor.

I feel especially sorry for Sebastiano Pigazzi who had to show up for work and bring life to a jumpsuit and a dildo. If you are writing that kind of shit, you hate actors.

Gramercy, not the WV.

I hope Sebastiano Pigazzi gets more work off of this. I don’t see anyone else getting a career boost based on their work here. Well, maybe Logan Marshall Greene, who successfully reminded people he is still an actor.

[quote]R55 Kim Cattrall could give them all seizures by saying she’s happy to do as many scenes as they want in the finale : o

[quote]R90 Samantha in the finale acting like everything's OK now would be a perfect ending. Get the $ Kim!

Cattrall should show up perfectly punctual and professional on the set for final episode, bearing shiny good luck gifts for everyone!

Give a little speech about how thrilling it is to be reunited…

After it wraps, decline to do another movie.

I’m ready to take on the role of Carrie in the remake.

Oh you precious pumpkins. There will be reunion movies until SJP croaks. This is like Cher's farewell tour...her final shows until the next ones.

[quote]The show also lost a huge character in it AJLT run - the City itself.

SATC premiered in the late 90's when the city was still an avenue of possibilities for many. But even as the original was ending, that idea was starting to become unrealistic. And the original show was in danger of becoming a parody of itself had it stayed on much longer.

I feel at this point, SJP should do a 180-career wise. Lay low for a few years and take roles in small, independent films. People forget that she was a good, versatile actress in the 80's and 90's. But she's become too identified with one role for the last 20 years. Look at Demi, Pam Anderson and Jamie Lee and see how they reinvited their careers. There's no reason SJP couldn't do something similar.

Someone here must know: Does MPK actually believe people enjoyed this dreck? Or is he aware that this was a truly humiliating outing?

This show was doomed from the start by not having Samantha, who was the most popular character. Letting Cynthia Nixon remake Miranda into herself completely destroyed it.

I was so looking forward to watching Miranda: The Grandma Years.

[quote]I hope it ends with Carrie’s entire unearned wealth stolen by a nonbinary financial advisor and she has to resort to being a prostitute for the blind.

Yes it would have to be for the blind.

You don’t even have to be that familiar with the original series or the tacky movies to hate this show.

It’s warm and wonderful how it just throws open the floodgates of free flowing hate for everyone.

The outpouring’s so vast. It’s universal.

[quote]SATC premiered in the late 90's when the city was still an avenue of possibilities for many. But even as the original was ending, that idea was starting to become unrealistic.

Exactly. It costs a fortune to live in the city now, and upward mobility is much more difficult. And even if you CAN move up, a six figure salary doesn't really cut it anymore. You need to be RICH.

Too stupid ^ too funny.

It's true r116

D117 is typing from the 90s. You’re a day late and several dollars short

R117^

I look forward to Carrie's funeral episode.

No I'm typing from 2025. The city is exhorbitantly expensive and upward mobility isn't as easy as it once was.

The original series worked, mostly, because Carrie was sort of a relatable New Yorker. She was into fashion, lived beyond her means, but felt like some semblance of a real person. Late in the run of the original series, they started to have her become something of a celebrity and the relatability died. By the time the series ended and the two films were made, Carrie was wearing haute couture that would probably not be seen outside of the Met Gala red carpet and Paris Fashion Week. Same with the new series, which I didn't watch (but I have seen pictures). The makers of this show really lost their way long ago. Add to the mix the blatant wokeness and it stunk even more.

As I wrote. Nothing new. That IS the City…for the longest time.

I’ve lived it.

r123 NYC has always cost more, but the cost of living is disproportionaley much MUCH higher than it used to be.

So true about Cynthia Nixon. She wouldn't come back unless her DEMANDS were met, i.e. turning Miranda into Cynthia and it was horrible. She is so insufferbale IRL and that's what Miranda became.

[quote] She had to bring her batshit politics into it, and drag down the whole show. She's like a low-rent Susan Sarandon, always ranting and hijacking other people's microphones for her screeds nobody wants to hear.44

Hasn't Cynthia gone on a "hunger strike" for something or other a couple of times now?

SJP's ego ruined the series. I laughed out love every time she was having sex without removing her bra. And for all of her serious literary creds, she allowed such junk to represent her. What was going on in the writers room when someone suggested a freak jerking off to a puppet?

[quote] she was having sex without removing her bra

Would you have preferred a nude scene? Be grateful she didn't show us her shriveled lumps.

If SATC hadn't come along SJP would have had a nice career in indies and on stage. But she wouldn't have the money she has now. She's very good in The Family Stone and I can definitely see her doing ensemble type work. She would be smart to stay away from Carrie type characters.

SATC and Friends had a huge role in making boring dipshit idiots from flyoverland move to NYC. Those shows did a lot of damage.

^ And the dreaded 4 person walk down the sidewalk. I used to move but now I stand my ground. YOU'RE NOT ON SATC, YOU COWS!

Kim posted IT'S THE END OF A VERY LONG WEEK on Instagram so, of course, people think she's talking about AJLT. Why?

In the 90s New York was still an artistic, cultural and entertainment capital. Think Basquiat, Scorsese, Spike Lee, Woody Allen, Vera Wang, Donna Karin, Mapplethorpe . . . Where are their equivalents today in New York City?

It was also the days of the Limelight, The Tunnel, The Roxy, The Palladium . . . when people went out and socialized instead of using social media to hookup.

Broadway in the 90s still hadn't become the venue for jukebox musicals and film to Broadway adaptations: Death becomes Her, The Great Gatsby, Sunset Blvd, Back to the Future, The Notebook, Some Like It Hot, Beetlejuice, Pretty Woman, Tootsie, Mrs. Doubtfire . . .

Robert died in 1989. Basquiat died a year earlier. I’ll stop your stupidly right there.

Basquiat and Mapplethorpe's reputations really grew in the 90s, r134. I think that's what r133 was trying to say.

Anyway, he's correct about everything else. NYC today has lost a lot of what made it unique. It's basically a playground for the international filthy rich and trustafarians.

[quote] I’ll stop your stupidly right there.

OMFG. What you YOU like YOUR parting gift to be?

[quote]She would be smart to stay away from Carrie type characters.

She won’t. She’s not smart. She’ll continue to be Carrie until she dies.

As it was then.

…plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose…

This stupid show is OVER.

Who’s this Karin named Donna?🤣

They should have had a Lexi Featherstone series. She was the best part of that whole show.

R134 I stand corrected.

R135 Thank you. My basic point is correct. And just because an artist dies doesn't mean that their art, influence and reputation die with them. Andy Warhol died in 1987. Yet he remained an important part of New York culture. A culture that unfortunately really no longer exists

Keep on truckin’

Karin in Manhatta

I really wonder what would have happened had Darren Star stayed with the show. I feel like things started to go downhill when Michael Patrick King took over.

[Quote] I’ll stop your stupidly right there.

Oh, dear!

But you understood it just the same, didn’t ya Blanche.

Why would someone like Cynthia Nixon, who purports herself to be a serious actress, want to play a character that's basically Cynthia Nixon? Doesn't seem like much of a challenge nor does it require any acting skill.

I assume it is to push visibility for LGBTQ characters on tv.

I would watch a Che spinoff, I really would!

She should stop claiming she's an actress if she's really a political activist.

Quick! Somebody break the news to Maureen Callahan!

r109

I have been listening to Kristin Davis' podcast about SATC and she brings up the hate for the new show often

Death by DEI.

[Quote] Hasn't Cynthia gone on a "hunger strike" for something or other a couple of times now?

She's never stopped eating pussy

[Quote] Who’s this Karin named Donna?🤣

But you still understood who they meant didn't you Blanche

In high school R134 ex Californian in Manhattan was voted most likely to die alone.

[quote]the original series worked, mostly, because Carrie was sort of a relatable New Yorker. She was into fashion, lived beyond her means, but felt like some semblance of a real person.

Always thought the original show worked because it was ultimately a show about loneliness: how a person can be in the midst of a crowd of people, and yet feel complete alone. And that's what made the show enjoyable; some times the women were able to go come together and comfort each each, but somethings they just had to soldier on by themselves. I actually think this show might have been a good thing (though maybe a more complicated story) if is centered around how being an older woman means being invisible, a person no one wants to listen to even though you know some shit, your body going haywire & your doctor won't help you (now that I list this, it would be a depressing show). But anyway, the sort of Old Lady Fantasy that it turned into...ridiculous.

I hate watched the first two seasons and started season three with the same expectation/intention, but something odd happened a couple of episodes in: I started to really enjoy it. I know I’m probably alone in that but I think getting rid of that Che monstrosity and the second token black woman (Miranda’s friend) helped keep it a bit tighter character-wise. It wasn’t just one episode either, I’ve enjoyed all of it. It’s felt a lot more like the original series.

So all I’d say is if anyone here loved Sex and the City but gave up with season 1 or 2 of And Just Like Shat, and hasn’t bothered with season 3 yet, give it a go.

Kim Cattrall — who did not appear in the revival series, save a Season 2 cameo — posted a cryptic message on Friday.

“It’s the end of a very long week ❤️💋,” she wrote alongside a photo of a sunset over a body of water. Cattrall appeared as Samantha Jones in the original “Sex and the City” series that aired on HBO from 1998 to 2004.

What's Kristin Davis going to do now? She's a very limited actress.

Count her money.

i was late to the party, but honestly, i will miss this hate watch. i would just watch in disbelief and calculate the astronomical costs of each HORRIFYING scene. 50 extras in a restaurant, a brand new completely decorated apartment, a location shoot, etc.

i also understand why HBO shut it down. way too expensive to produce so people could just have a hate watch.

Honest question. Why does Kristin Davis have a career? She is one note.

Well, she doesn’t really have a career outside this role, does she?

Kristin Davis' agent has a sloppy bush.

Based on her legs alone, Kristen Davis would have been better suited pulling plows through fields or baby calves out of their mothers.

[quote] But everyone wants to see a story about literal caftan-wearing old queens on "Mid-Century Modern"?

MCM was, comparatively speaking, utterly charming compared to AJLT.

Ha, R131, SaTC introduced this? Why are female gaggles incapable of walking in line, behind each other? I always thought it’s to avoid perceived ranking.

How much does an extra who sits in a restaurant scene make?

MCM is terrible with its canned laughter.

[quote]They should have had a Lexi Featherstone series. She was the best part of that whole show.

Kristen Johnston stole every scene in her one episode, she was fantastic. It's too bad Lexi was killed off, she should've been a recurring character who popped up here and there.

R171: Lexi would have been like all of her characters--best in small does.

Lexi Featherstone would be 77 now.

Correction, 71. The episode is from 2004.

In the episode, she clearly says “God Carrie, I’m 40 years old, can you fucking believe it?!”

What year are we in?

She would be a bit younger than 61 because Brady is only 20 currently.