Registered child sex offender finds loophole to bring a child home

I could pardon him if I wanted to.

What's the loophole?

The GOP will soon start using cases like this to make gay parents and families the new scapegoats to replace trans.

They groom the kids!!!

R3 Republicans and Conservatives have been passing this story all over social media for days now. It just now made mainstream media but the Repugs have been all over it

Someone should teach her how to spell gay

First, what was his actual sex offense.

Second, straight sex offenders have been able to have kids without issue.

R6 not if you’re a CHILD SEX OFFENDER. Keyword is CHILD.

I’m sure straight parents have done the same.

What loophole? If you’re a sex offender you can’t use a surrogate?

Of course MAGA TMZ is covering this. This is celebrity news how?

These pieces of shit, making it harder for the rest of us.

R9 you can in PA

[quote] not if you’re a CHILD SEX OFFENDER. Keyword is CHILD.

Yes, straight child sex offenders can have kids. If their girlfriend gets pregnant, will the state make her have an abortion?

There are not laws against child sex offenders having kids

What was the original case that gave him the label child sex offender. It couldn't have been too bad because he's not in jail.

The Registry can often be ridiculous on the types of crimes added to it: If you take a piss on the side of a school, you may be labeled a sex offender because your penis is out.

[quote] you can in PA

And other states you can’t? Can a female sex offender be denied giving birth to children too?

Turns out he exchanged sexual messages with a 16 year old. Turns out the crime has NOTHING to do with the current situation

The baby will be fine.

[QUOTE]Yes, straight child sex offenders can have kids. If their girlfriend gets pregnant, will the state make her have an abortion?

MAGAts would probably declare him cured by the grace of their lord and JC and give him a medal and a Golden Corral gift certificate for the whole family, including the diddled child.

R17 - yes - he exchanged sexual messages in 2013 - 12 years ago - with a 16 year old. I have to wonder how old he was at the time - early 20s? Did the guy say he was 18?

Also he allegedly had child porn pics. Now - I'm not defending him - but it could be the pics the 16 year old sent him. Any pics of beings under 18 is considered child porn.

I'm not trying to make light of this, but this may have been overzealous prosecution. The details of how and why he was considered a sex offender is important - because in a few cases, it's not the huge dangerous pervert abuse story people think.

An old friend of mine (years and years ago), caught a charge when he was 19 for dating a 16/17 year old guy. The mother found out, hated the gay part, and called the police to have him arrested. He went to prison for 18 months.

We don't know the specifics but people read 'child offender' and immediately think of worse-case scenario. And often it is. But a few times, it's not.

I know I'll get flamed for saying this.

Isn’t Tier 1 like child pron possession or something? Doesn’t Tier 1 also expire? I remember looking on that Megan Law site to see who around me was a convicted sex offender. The majority of the charges were for downloading child pron. There were a couple of rapists in the area too. As terrible as it is, I don’t see it as being the same thing as actually molesting a child. Sure, it could be the first step but when I read a report about a guy who downloaded a video containing child pron and that translated into him have 7,000 pieces of children pron material because each frame is considered an image, I began seeing it just a tad differently. People are watching beheading videos for Christ’s sake. If someone is truly a danger to society they shouldn’t be out of jail. I don’t know how you can do your time yet you go on a list continuing to be punished because you’re a potential threat. Then they should be kept in jail then. A lot of American laws are ridiculous. I’ve seen college kids get off with a slap on the wrist for raping women. A person looking at a horrible image ruins the rest of their lives. If they actually paid for the material, then yes, they are contributing to the demand of such material. I find it hard to believe that the majority of these guys are though. It doesn’t seem to have stopped the production of such material either.

With all the anti-gay political rhetoric going on, I expect to see a lot more stories like this ridiculous one. It’s all because he’s gay and don’t even try telling me it’s not.

Context is important here. If his crime was getting dirty pics from a 17 year old twelve years ago, that doesn't mean he's going to be a danger to a baby. But if it was young young stuff, then that would be more concerning.

It’s more 2025 playbook shit. They’re be back to banning gays from adopting and then it’ll be gay marriage and gays being teachers, etc. We’ll be back in the 1950s again.

Obsessions with children and food.

This is witch hunt bullshit. Shame on TMZ but they have no shame of course.

I really, really hope r19 and r21 are correct.

so I looked up his age - he's 39 - so he was 27 at the time and the guy was 16. That's not good.

Who knows what the 16 year old said his age was or what he was doing on adult apps/other.

What we don't know are what the images were - were they from the 16 year old or other images? To me, it sounds like they went for 2 charges from the same incident to make them stick.

Now - context - he lived in rural PA - so not a ton of gays in rural areas. Second, that means a rural county prosecutor who could have been overzealous and, let's face it, anti-gay.

To be fair, a straight 27 year old man probably would have been charged too - if he knew the age of the recipient.

But the difference here is that young gay men (under 18) don't have support systems and are looking to date or are horny. Straight men have TONS of options besides underage girls - as do underage girls have tons of options with boys of their same age. It's not the same thing.

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here.

Of course Republicans on Shitter are using this to attack all gay people...even though the vast majority of people who abuse their kids are straight

Stunned that DL is rushing to his defense.

HE’S FAT!

16 could plausibly look 18. That doesn't excuse it, but if the kid came on to him and lied about his age, that is not 🚨🚨PEDOPHILIA🚨🚨

Context matters, and if he was 27 and getting kinda sexual in online communication with a then 16-17yo teenager, that’s definitely not ok *if* he knew the teen was a minor — but it’s also not at all in the same sick category as someone who is a literal “child rapist” to quote our inflammatory and shit-stirring OP.

Keep in mind also, in Connecticut and a few other US states the age of consent for this kind of thing is 16. In other words, legal or criminal depends on location within the US. (Nowhere is it younger than 16) I am not defending him — from a simple developmental psychology angle 16 is so young it raises questions of consent in my opinion. But it’s striking how his life is imploding now, and how he has been criminalized to this extent, because this happened in PA not in CT.

The surrogate should have been notified of his registered sex offender status though, up front at the start, before she made the decision to carry a child for them. I suspect she wasn’t told at all.

Under rug swept 🧹

People are crazy, I saw a Reddit frau on the AmIOverreacting sub last week claiming a 32-year-old dating a 23-year-old was problematic (because the latter is "basically a kid!"). She threw a fit when people disagreed with her, calling them pedos. And of course her comment was the most upvoted and got gold as well.

These same people used to be the village prudes who were up in everybody's business and getting folk in trouble with the majority unless everything was exactly to their liking. I feel sometimes like we're slowly regressing socially, and it's not all due to the right-wingers either.

R32 - I agree with you all around.

BUT - I think that teenagers and young adults are far less mature than what we used to be 20-30 years ago. They're not going out, they're not drinking, they're not fucking - they can't afford to live on their own so they still live with their parents.

They have delayed maturity - in my opinion. Not all - but a LOT of them. So some of them are not adult enough to handle an age difference, perhaps.

Still, they have to do SOMETHING and make mistakes in life in order to grow - and a lot seem incapable or do not want to.

R33, you’re an idiot.

Don’t need to drink or sleep around to be an adult. Ask Alice, she didn’t do either and she lived with her employer!

Reddit is the worst place you can go if you want a nuanced debate about sexual ethics, r32. It's full of people who are afraid of sex and can't stop fretting about the sex other people are having. It's the same kind of sex policing that evangelicals and Mormons engage in but without the religious beliefs.

Reddit doesn't represent society as a whole.