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Mamie Van Doren says she was there for the gay community before Elizabeth Taylor

Van Doren has also remained outspoken about causes dear to her, serving as an early high-profile grand marshal for the LA Pride Parade in 1987 — at the height of the AIDS Crisis.

“Elizabeth Taylor came along trying to say that she was the first one that ever did anything for the community. And it was a very bad shock… I wasn’t invited to anything after that,” Van Doren explained. “So, the gay community got together and… put me in the parade and made me the queen.”

Van Doren said that, after Taylor took on the task of being a leader in the campaign to fight AIDS, she and other advocates were “iced out.” “A lot people — we were all the first ones — we’re all getting ready to go to this charity thing that [Taylor] had, and they called us and told us that we weren’t wanted. That was the end of it. I want to make it very clear in history, she was not the first one. She only did it after Rock Hudson died

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by Anonymousreply 28July 31, 2025 1:33 AM

What is the dynamic here? She’s 94. Is People Mag reaching out to her proactively to interview her about…AIDS? In 2025?

Or is she inviting press to just “drop by” and find some big scoop? Who would waste their time answering such a call?

by Anonymousreply 1July 29, 2025 6:34 AM

Serious question. Are we supposed to know who she is??

by Anonymousreply 2July 29, 2025 6:48 AM

I admit I didn’t vote for her husband.

by Anonymousreply 3July 29, 2025 6:49 AM

Seems like an accurate account of non-profit org bullshit and charity gala attention seeking and social climbing. But I'm not going to slag Elizabeth Taylor.

by Anonymousreply 4July 29, 2025 7:25 AM

Elizabeth's estate continues to earn and donate money. And Mamie still cashes her SSI check at Von's.

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by Anonymousreply 5July 29, 2025 8:04 AM

R2 Turn your gay card in now.

by Anonymousreply 6July 29, 2025 8:15 AM

Try google maybe?

by Anonymousreply 7July 29, 2025 8:17 AM

[quote]Serious question. Are we supposed to know who she is??

You're asking this on DL? Please.

by Anonymousreply 8July 29, 2025 8:21 AM

R5 - they show the wrong bottle to illustrate Passion for Men!

by Anonymousreply 9July 29, 2025 8:23 AM

[quote] Seems like an accurate account of non-profit org bullshit and charity gala attention seeking and social climbing. But I'm not going to slag Elizabeth Taylor.

I’m not going to slag off either of them, but it rings very true! Non-profits and charities are cutthroat.

by Anonymousreply 10July 29, 2025 8:24 AM

Are we ignoring the opening story of how Rock Hudson was not gay with her?

by Anonymousreply 11July 29, 2025 9:55 AM

Who were/are all of Mamie's gay friends?

by Anonymousreply 12July 29, 2025 8:06 PM

Mamie is somewhat of an icon. It's a shame her filmography leaves a lot to be desired. If only it were as exciting and illustrious as her personal life. She's like the novel Hollywood Babylon personified. Only a LOT more accurate (not 100% but still!).

Her last onscreen appearance was in a flop 2002 stoner comedy where she sexually harasses a couple of twenty something guys and gets topless in a hospital bed by having one of them give her breasts a sponge bath.

Marilyn may be the most famous of The Blondes (Monroe, Mansfield, Van Doren, Lake, Turner, Harlow, Baker and Dors, etc.) but Mamie had the biggest udders.

by Anonymousreply 13July 29, 2025 8:25 PM

Mamie got some good dick like Steve The Cock Cochran. But she said he liked it too rough. He was into big boobies before he then changed to teenagers.

by Anonymousreply 14July 29, 2025 11:21 PM

She also claims Howard Hughes had a tiny cock.

by Anonymousreply 15July 29, 2025 11:23 PM

VAN DOREN/BANCROFT

Together at Last!

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by Anonymousreply 16July 29, 2025 11:27 PM

I’m looking forward to her documentary.

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by Anonymousreply 17July 29, 2025 11:29 PM

Can you see Sydney Sweeney as Mamie?

by Anonymousreply 18July 30, 2025 1:06 AM

She's extremely anti-Trump on social media, so I'll not hear a word against Mamie.

She says in the interview there's a new documentary, "Mamie Confidential," coming out later this year.

The only bad thing I've ever heard about her is she refused to meet John Waters when he wanted her in "Cry-Baby," saying, "I deserve better than Divine." Waters refers to her in interviews as "Mamie with her dirty makeup."

by Anonymousreply 19July 30, 2025 1:42 AM

R19, I wonder what she meant by that Divine comment since he was not in Cry Baby.

by Anonymousreply 20July 30, 2025 2:18 AM

“With Rock Hudson, they said he was gay at the studio… ‘You don’t have anything to worry about.’ But that’s not true. That was not true at all,” Van Doren recounted. “He came on to me, and in my book I told about having [on] a Crimmins skirt and him getting very passionate and rolling on the kitchen floor.”

by Anonymousreply 21July 30, 2025 2:20 AM

As others have said, I absolutely believe this to be the case and I aint going to shit on Liz or Mamie for it. Plus it's not like Liz was dictating this shit. It's just a popularity contest and Liz won out. Love both of them.

by Anonymousreply 22July 30, 2025 2:25 AM

R13 "Marilyn may be the most famous of The Blondes (Monroe, Mansfield, Van Doren, Lake, Turner, Harlow, Baker and Dors, etc.) but Mamie had the biggest udders."

And also the biggest brain. She was the one blond bombshell allowed to be smart. She absolutely steals High School Confidential

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by Anonymousreply 23July 30, 2025 2:29 AM

Aids needed someone of Lizs superstardom...Fair play to any celeb who stepped up, including Mamie (blanche was a fan of the Mamie Van Doran shoe collection). But a thousand celebs dont equal one Liz.

by Anonymousreply 24July 30, 2025 4:17 AM

He came on to me, and in my book I told about having [on] a Crimmins skirt and him getting very passionate and rolling on the kitchen floor.”

Maybe he liked the skirt more than her.

by Anonymousreply 25July 30, 2025 6:42 AM

Hudson pulled up in front of my parents’ new house in the San Fernando Valley in his convertible instead of the studio limo. When he came to the door to get me, a momentary flash of disbelief passed across his face. In the dress the studio had made for me, I looked like some kind of prom queen. It had a beaded, strapless bodice and a flared skirt with acres of crinolines. The studio’s idea was to make me look as innocent and schoolgirlish as possible. I felt a little foolish.

by Anonymousreply 26July 30, 2025 6:44 AM

We got out and walked to my front door. I turned, expecting a goodnight peck on the cheek. Instead, Rock said, “Have you got any coffee in there?"

When I went to the cupboard to take out the coffee cups, I felt Rock’s hands on my bare shoulders. He turned me toward him and kissed me. My first thought was that it would be a little smack on the mouth between friends. Instead, to my surprise, Rock gave me a deep, searching, passionate kiss and his body was pressed against mine. | could feel him hardening against me as the kiss grew more ardent. Soon we were breathing heavily and pawing each other.

As we necked, we slowly sank to the kitchen floor. I was lying half on top of Rock, helping him unzip his fly. When I got it open I realized that the boulder his agent had named him after must have been a big one: Rock was well-endowed. He rolled me over to get on top but suddenly found himself engulfed in a cloud of crinoline.

I tried to guide him inside me but couldn't reach him through the forest of underskirts. Rock let out a long sigh and his weight collapsed on top of me. He had cum.

by Anonymousreply 27July 31, 2025 12:58 AM

"He was gay but I was the only woman he would ever want to fuck."

I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for $800, Alex.

by Anonymousreply 28July 31, 2025 1:33 AM
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