FAT PLEDGE: Britain will be ‘Fat Free’ in decade with more people given access to weight loss jabs

This will never happen

It’s a great idea.

I was never a heavy drinker- but since going on Ozempic I’ve lost interest in drinking any alcohol at all when I normally would fancy some, like a glass red wine with steak or pasta or a charcuterie or beer with fish and chips or at the football. It simply doesn’t occur to me.

I wonder if it affects gamblers as well.

No more fat whores!

The pledge covers you as well, Lens.

Damn. Soon I won't be able to call them fatties, and the invasion of straight Brit frauen to DL will continue.

Aren’t there dangerous side effects?

Chubs Wes needs a jab - in his face

There will come a time later this century when seeing a fatty in public will be a bit like seeing a severe burn victim – adults will instinctively recoil and kids will point and gawk.

And to think this was considered an unbeatable problem just a decade ago, and we had insane projections how everyone was going to be obese and diabetic soon.

r6 Not for most people, and they're working on new candidate drugs all the time that'll minimise even those side effects. This spreadsheet shows upcoming candidates just from the two biggest market players (plus one from Pfizer).

r7 Just a lil' in each cheek. He reminds me of Ross Matthews.

R9 I follow the retatrutide subreddit and the results that people are posting are jaw dropping. Absolutely amazing. I'm not on any GLP-1 agonist and I only need to lose 15 pounds, but that subreddit has really tempted me to find a source and go for it

[quote]Britain will be ‘Fat Free’ in decade

"This will not happen to US!", vows queer music superstar Sam Smith.

We could have just regulated the food industry and stopped them making intentionally addictive and shit products decades ago.

This is the perfect synecdoche for the obesity crisis: rather than address the underlying structural issues, just use a pharmaceutical quick-fix instead.

[quote]rather than address the underlying structural issues, just use a pharmaceutical quick-fix instead.

People used to say – and the cons still do – the exact same thing about HIV medication and PrEP, i.e. why waste all this money on medication when gays could just not have sex so much.

We don't turn people with high blood pressure or diabetes away and tell them to "address the underlying structural issues" instead. We give them drugs because those drugs work. Same with these injectables. The only difference here (much like with HIV) is that there's a stigma attached to this particular condition that makes you feel superior to that group of people. Not everyone can will themselves out of obesity because their brain and entire metabolism has been rewired to crave food all the time.

These drugs demonstrably work and so they're getting used, just like any other drug. End of story.

Mightn't they have have a leaner spokesmodel for the proposal?

R16 Regulating social and sexual behavior is a different matter from commodities. Drugs can help you if you get ill from pollution or toxic chemicals in a product, but you’d still want those things regulated out of your environment. Gay sex isn’t comparable to junk food.

[quote] This is the perfect synecdoche for the obesity crisis: rather than address the underlying structural issues, just use a pharmaceutical quick-fix instead.

What is your superior solution? And what is wrong with this one?

I don't think there's anything wrong with this solution, per se, R19.

I feel I should explain that I’m not critiquing those who might want to take up the offer of medication that could help alleviate their obesity. I’m not a conservative by any means, and as somebody who regularly makes lifestyle choices based on the fact I take PrEP, I’m not one to judge the lifestyle choices of others. I’m also in the UK, and so what I write is pretty contextual.

But obesity is rarely the fault of the individual. Obesity is caused by poverty, poor housing, food deserts, lack of access to healthcare, inflation and the cost of living, the cost of electricity that is required to cook food, big agriculture companies who produce unhealthy foods and fuck up ecosystems in the process… The list goes on.

My concern is that those in power can use this proposed solution - unimaginable even a few years ago - and then congratulate themselves for having ‘solved’ a public healthcare issue, without then having to do absolutely anything to solve the other issues that caused that crisis in the first place.

Until it turns out they cause some sort of unforseen side effect.

[quote] Until it turns out they cause some sort of unforseen side effect.

Of course, this is always a possibility with any new medication, but these drugs have been in use for a number of years with no indication of severe generalised side effects.

Many innovations are miracles without significant side effects For example, the contraceptive pill. But because people are Luddites or have strange attitudes about obesity potential catastrophes are dreaded or even hoped for.