‘Fantastic Four: First Steps’ … every scene that has Julia Garner is better than any scene without her
So the films biggest issue is her lack of screentime. When she’s on screen the movie is so much better. There is a scene where she chases them in space that is one of the most beautifully shot and intense action scenes ever in a superhero film. It’s THAT good a scene.
The film is good but not great like some are claiming. Some of the dialogue can be very cheesy and cringe, and the story is very basic. However, it is coherent and tightly written. No crazy subplots etc. however, there is an emotional scene close to the end that feels like a rehash of 2007’s “Rise of the Silver Surfer” and I didn’t like it.
Thing is probably the closest we’ve gotten to the comics. Sue Storm is once again the one who has to do the heavy lifting on the team and pretty much saves the day. This version of Johnny Storm is extremely watered down though. He isn’t quick witted, sarcastic, or a hyper sexual frat-like woman crazy hottie like he is in the comics or 2005 film. This one is toned down extremely. Almost neutered. He has no sexuality.
Overall a good film but the final battle was underwhelming. And Silver Surfer isnt on screen much.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 27, 2025 12:17 AM
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He isn’t quick witted, sarcastic, or a hyper sexual frat-like woman crazy hottie like he is in the comics or 2005 film.
Johnny is sarcastic and flippant, in the comics, but he wasn't "a hyper sexual frat-like woman crazy hottie" there, even if he was in the 2005 film.
Johnny was pretty much a one-woman guy for his first 30 years or so. First he was attached to Dorrie Evans, then the superheroine Crystal, then Frankie Raye, then Alicia Masters.
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | July 24, 2025 10:42 PM
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Johnny Storm got into relationships but he was very much a flirt and girl-crazy r1. And his looks and charisma were a big part of his characterization. All that is erased in this one.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | July 24, 2025 10:50 PM
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R1 even the official Marvel website describes Johnny in the comics as a heartthrob, charismatic and a ladies man.
“ In Marvel Comics, Johnny Storm, also known as the Human Torch, is often portrayed as "hot" not just in terms of his fiery powers, but also in his personality and relationships. He's known for being a charismatic, impulsive, and somewhat arrogant hero, the "hot-shot heartthrob" of the Fantastic Four. This is reflected in his romantic life, with various relationships and flings, and his close friendships, particularly with Spider-Man”
“ He's a charming and attractive character, often depicted as a heartthrob and a ladies' man”
None of that exists in the new version.
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | July 24, 2025 11:01 PM
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In all the trailers it looks like the whole gang is just having bad hair days.
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | July 24, 2025 11:06 PM
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Vanessa Kirby is a better actress but Jessica Alba is hotter so she wins.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 25, 2025 3:28 AM
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Saw the French cam version yesterday and I agree, the silver surfer (surferess?) was the best part. Everything else was generic comic book movie fare. It also seemed overly heteronormative to me. Signa temporum, I guess.
I do wish Coon was cast instead of Garner, she has a similar voice but with a lot more character to it. Would have sounded glorious with that echo.
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 25, 2025 1:49 PM
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"Sue Storm is once again the one who has to do the heavy lifting on the team"
Not a huge surprise, given that her husband is basically just a rubber band (not an amazing super power) and the Thing is a pile of rocks.
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 25, 2025 1:59 PM
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R6 yeah you have no room to talk about it. Who watches a film like this bootleg?
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | July 25, 2025 6:05 PM
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Just saw it. The first half is kind of dull and spends too much time setting up the team and the retro-futuristic '60s world they live in. Once Silver Surfer and Galactus show up, the film gets much better. Galactus looks great.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 27, 2025 12:12 AM
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Setting the team up? This isn’t an origin story.
This film, like Superman, drops the viewers into an already established world.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 27, 2025 12:17 AM
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