Was there ever a manlier man than John Gavin?

He was almost painfully pretty in "Thoroughly Modern Millie".

I'm one of a handful of people who love that movie r1. He's one of the reasons.

That seedy motel scene in Psycho at the OP was a major sexual awakening for me.

The whole movie had me riveted as an adolescent, but Gavin left me spellbound.

That shot reminds me of the kiss cam reaction.

No one is watching them, but they look like they’ve just been seen. Voyeurism is a theme of Psycho and Hitchcock often framed shots to make the audience feel like voyeurs.

Did he do the homosex? Specifically did he and Anthony Perkins fuck?

His Julius Caesar scenes in “Spartacus” are extremely homoerotic. But he is even hotter in “Psycho.”

After he retired from acting, Gavin was appointed ambassador to Mexico by Reagan.

His mother was Mexican, and he spoke fluent Spanish.

John Gavin’s British accent in Midnight Lace is simply dreadful. It belongs in the pantheon of Most Awful Movie Accents. Worse than Dick Van Dyke’s chimney sweep’s Cockney.

But he looked stunning.

Gavin was unbelievably hot in PSYCHO, for sure. I recently listened to the DVD audio commentary of the film and the expert said Gavin was uncomfortable being shirtless. Can you imagine? He's fucking beautiful.

He was 6'4" of hotness.

Yes! Supreme manly man Paul W. Downs

His legs in Spartacus...

R7 that’s probably why he wasn’t cast as James Bond after all.

Sadly, he was pretty straight. Married to actress Constance Towers and a total Reaganite. Word on the street is that he wasn't all that bright -a nice, affable guy whose career was based more on looks than talent.

He was a Stanford graduate. I think he suffered from prejudice against beautiful men.

Yes actually, there was. Many in fact.

gorgeous mexican american

Rod Taylor

He was Lucie Arnaz's leading man in "Seesaw" and was very good. His song and dance abilities were something of a surprise and he had a scene where he was shirtless in bed.

[quote] ... Word on the street is that he wasn't all that bright -a nice, affable guy whose career was based more on looks than talent.

Not unlike Reagan.

Just as Universal signed on Rock Hudson to keep an increasingly demanding and rebellious Jeff Chandler in check, Universal signed on John Gavin to keep Rock in check. Rock was demanding better scripts and more control over his career. Despite his good looks, Gavin, was unable to exude the natural charisma that Rock possessed.

I have heard him described as a poor man's Rock Hudson, just as Joan Collins was a poor man's Elizabeth Taylor.

That analogy doesn’t work for me. Was Joan Collins every truly beautiful?

[quote]Was there ever a manlier man than John Gavin?

Yes, Malcom-Jamal Warner. Have you forgotten him already ?

Well, I think there were lots of us really.

Doesn't necessarily work for me either r22. But it was said. Collins might have even mentioned it in her book.

Big pepperoni nips

One of the actors of his type/era that never went the cheapie horror film route eventually. He did a lot of 1970s TV, though.

And here we are being fed mouse boy.

Leslie Nielsen was manlier.

He belongs to the pantheon of Wooden Acting, along with Lyle Lovett and Madonna.

OP=Miss Dorothy.

His real name was Juan Apablasa!

My family sat next to his family at my brother’s high school graduation in 1976.

John Gavin was insanely hot in Psycho. Hitch knew exactly what he was doing with that casting. The average matinee idol just didn't have a body that good back then, so it must have been especially provocative to audiences at the time. I imagine even some of our surviving eldergays who were actually alive back then had their gay awakenings to those shirtless scenes of John!

I'm a child of the 80s and 90s and even I recall the first time I saw Psycho (probably on TV as a kid) and being quite taken by Mr. G.

He did a truly awful Canadian comedy in the 1970s. The wedding scenes took place at a nearby Anglican church.

He seemed in to look good any styles or degree of fussy period styling put upon him. Not always the first man to catch your rue in a crowd, but the one you keeping looking at...

"He's hiding his charms under that Burger King uniform . I wonder what he looks like naked. I'll just go ahead and day I'll just say I'd fuck him without a word spoken beforehand."

Not only was I sexually awakened by John Gavin as a wee gayling, I've forever since had a particular fetish for a shirtless hairy-chested hunk in dark dress pants and a leather belt. More erotic than nude for me.

(R23)

At least John was game for a little titillation.

From that same era, I preferred Jeffrey Hunter.

Not as satisfying as RJ, but nice to look at.

Hitchcock was forced by the studio to cast Gavin in " Psycho" and constantly bad-mouthed his acting, because he resented the casting intrusion.

He looks a lot like my college roommate.

His wife was a tawdry stripper.

Would choose Gavin over Hudson any day. Constance Towers was oodles of fun in ‘’The Horse Soldiers’’ (She’s 92)

The worst actor in Psycho is the psychiatrist at the end. Completely miscast.

R40 you mean Jesus?

R20, Rock Hudson was a better actor. Gavin could be a bit woody, as in the later Psycho scenes. But, boy, was he hot in the hotel room scene.

Hitchcock got away with a lot in that scene. Daring for 1960/61. And still effective today.

Lucky Larry

reply 51 and no Back Street with Susan Hayward?

R6 A friend is longtime friend of Connie. Jack's life was threatened several times when he was Ambassador, she encouraged him to give it up.

I like this thread, and dick pics would really put it over the top. Got any?

Lucky Lord Larry wasn't looking too shabby himself back then.

He had a rubber nose glued on, R54.

Psycho is on Netflix until end of July.

Yes, many.

Please provide more examples for manlier men than John Gavin. I like what I have seen so far.

Manly men and lovely ladies.

In 1970 I was a gayling carpenter in the scene shop of the Ogunquit Playhouse where John Gavin came through in a production of The Fantasticks in which he played El Gallo. My 3 housemates and I threw a cast party and John actually attended for a bit. He was very sweet and cordial. Very handsome but kind of bland, not really terribly sexy. He was dying his thinning hair black, not a good look.

But yes, I'm the upthread poster with the fetish for hairy-chested hunks in dark dress pants and leather belts because of Mr. Gavin in Psycho.

Did we ever see him shaving in his underwear anywhere?

John Gavin reminds me of Mitt Romney - or more accurately, Mitt Romney reminds me of John Gavin.

Oh, and the guy from Drop Dead Diva, Jackson Hurst, is the younger version of them, as well.

[quote] Please provide more examples for manlier men than John Gavin. I like what I have seen so far.

Not necessarily manlier, but definitely masculine Hugh O'Brian.

Yeah, Hugh O'Brian! Also, Clint Walker, Van Williams and Rod Taylor!!!

Clint Walker was a god among men.

[quote]R13 Word on the street is that he wasn't all that bright

Yeah - he doesn’t have much “sparkle,” as they say. Rather wooden.

Being a bit wooden is what makes him manly. That Rock Hudson sparkle screams “fag”!