Epstein Files situation — Part 2 — more to drop?

Wondering what wonderful secret means

Secrets taken to the grave

Secrets

(& for convenience, a cross-link back to Part 1)

I don't get along with my mom but I would never allow my dad to dispose of her remains in a golf course in New Jersey!

SQUIRREL!!!

Where was ? REPUBLICANS LOVE CHILD MOLESTORS.

Part 2???

That whole interaction in R3's TikTok video was pretty bizarre. Why is some dude showing Dump old printed out photos?

I approve of this headline:

R8, see R4

Un huh. His royal highness could not stop laughing while orange looked dead serious

I commented on that in the last thread, r9. Yeah, what's up with *that*?

R6, I'm shocked Fox News isn't doing a story about a trans bocce ball player or something

Fox is probably talking about how awful Jasmine Crockett is--with plenty of racist subtlety--like "she's so urban".

They have to keep their racist old asshole viewers happy.

Does she make koolaid

[quote]Trump dated tennis pro Gabriela Sabatini in July 1989 when she was 19 and Trump was 43.

I spent a lot of titillating hours watching Gabriela Sabatini play tennis back in the day, ladies and gentlemen, and if he had his little mushroom anywhere near any of her orifices, I will eat my shoes.

Seriously. I'll fry them up in a pan with some butter and the dog and I will share them.

I have never been so certain a woman was a lesbian in all my life.

Wonder what Vanky knows.

I was about to say the same, R17. I was really into women's tennis in the late 80s/early 90s and it was common knowledge that Sabatini was a lesbian.

Weren't there rumors about her and Martina?

Summer of 8647

I never heard anything, R20 -- but Sabatini was gorgeous, and Martina...

I never did like that Slavic look long before Melania was in the picture -- or Ivana, for that matter.

Being with Donald Trump is enough to turn any woman into a lesbian

R18 I think she was victim.

I always post this as evidence of those of us who've known what a jerk he was since the 80s.

Did Epstein traffic boys, too?

Interesting.

I wonder if boys were involved in his Wexner era.

It's an enema....er.....I mean enigmy.

Hmmm, AP reports that JD Vance made a secret flight to Murdoch's Montana ranch to speak to Rupert and Lachlan. Hmmm, I wonder what that meeting could possibly be all about?

Daddy would NEVER touch my pussy! Unless it's my birthday, President's Day, Arbor Day, etc. Actually any old day will do, I LOVE IT!!!!!

The Murdoch meeting in Montana happened in early June, for whatever it's worth. Still seems shady, but I'm not sure it is directly correlated to everything going on at the moment.

The still image near the top of the thread of the two together is from an MSNBC video they’re laughing, chortling, acting like buddies, arms around each other etc.

In any event, I posted that video some time back and I used Tracey Ullman’s hit “They Don’t Know” as the soundtrack. The lyrics fit that video of the two together to a tee:

You've been around for such a long time now Oh Maybe I could leave you but I don't know how And why should I be lonely ev'ry night When I can be with you Oh yes You make it right And I don't listen to the guys who say that you're bad for me And I should turn you away 'Cause they don't know about us And they've never heard of love I get a feeling when I look at you wherever you go now I want to be there too They say we're crazy but I just don't care And if they keep on talking Still they get nowhere So I don't mind if they don't understand When I look at you and you hold my hand 'Cause they don't know about us And they've never heard of love Why should it matter to us if they don't approve? We should just take our chances while we've got nothing to lose Baby There's no need for living in the past Now I've found good loving gonna make it last I tell the others Don't bother me 'Cause when they look at you They don't see what I see No I don't listen to their wasted lines Got my eyes wide open and I see the signs 'Cause they don't know about us And they've never heard of love No I don't listen to their wasted lines Got my eyes wide open and I see the signs 'Cause they don't know about us and they've never heard of love

Of course, these days, everybody knows.

Apparently lesbian sex shows figured prominently in their molestfests. Maybe that's why Sabatini and Ivanka hung around?

And the only genuine and joyful smiles I've ever seen out of Trump is when he's looking at Putin or Epstein. Otherwise he's an angry, dour asshole

Or when Ivanka sat on his lap.

The NYT takes a turn, with a long piece about the Trump-Epstein friendship.

“Our administration is committed to transparency!” 🤡

I always thought the Pee Tape was the P Tape and it stood for pedophile.

And I always thought Qanon was a bunch of unbelievable, over the the top stuff that normal people scoffed at, so that when Trump's perversions came out, they'd be tame to the Qanons. The people whose brains were trained to disbelieve would continue scoffing.

Q drops are out of date. We have moved on to utter chaos. MAGA has no theories or narrative at all, just random nonsense and panicked lies from Orange Idiot.

Asshole loudmouth ( who was considering running for president as a Dem.), Stephen A. Smith, is taking a lot of heat for this:

[quote]"It's really, really surprising that this matters. Of course I think there's a list but I don't know. I suspect, but I have no knowledge nor do I care," Smith said. "I'm getting ready to enjoy myself. This client list has no effect on me whatsoever - I have a life. You got people crying on camera, talking about resignations, just angry about everything."

[quote]Smith continued, "I didn't blame Trump one bit for looking at them and saying, 'Really? That really matters to you?' Maybe he had a different reason for saying it. In the grand scheme of things, it ain't going to affect the lives of over 200-to-300 million Americans."

Some advice for Stephen:

Stephen A. Smith needs to take a seat and STFU.

No one cares what this self-serving, self-important asshole thinks.

Trump is subhuman slime and gets to be President. Why can’t Stephen A. shoot his mouth off?

[quote]In the grand scheme of things, it ain't going to affect the lives of over 200-to-300 million Americans

Neither did Clinton's blow job. And yet ...

So you agree that everyone else needs to take a seat and let Trump keep Trumping R45? Why shouldn’t his bullshit be called out whether it changes anything or not?

BUT HER EMAILS!

No I’m saying that Trump is a game show host. Why are people surprised when a sports show host weighs in? It’s all infotainment.

You'd think the kids, at least, would ensure her grave was neat and tidy and send flowers. You gotta wonder if something isn't buried in there with her or if they secretly hated her.

Wow, that interaction R9 linked to is very strange. Trump is not amused but the other two are yukking it up.

All of the Trump children are sociopaths. Why would they care about their mother's grave R50? That's what the Mexican groundskeepers are for.

Atlas Intel, the only poll to which I now pay attention, has Trump at his lowest disapproval, 55%, in his second term, but that's only one point higher than its poll from last month. And his 44% approval, also down one from last month, is still pretty good for Trump.

I'm sure Ivana wouldn't have wanted to be buried on one of Trump's golf courses. The thought of it is insulting. I imagine that her grown kids would have had the authority to make the decision. Maybe they wanted it to be somewhere they could visit in privacy. Maybe they thought they were giving her the Princess Diana treatment by burying her on private family property, away from other dead people. Maybe they were too cheap to buy a plot in a regular cemetery for rich people.

It would have made more sense to bury her at Mara Lago. Or even better, cremate her and bury or scatter her remains in her Eastern European homeland.

He'll always have 4 out of 10 Americans who will happily drink his Kool-Aid.

The way those kids roasted their mom at her funeral service and went months without speaking to her shows they don't give a fuck about her and never did. And it's like the groundskeepers have been instructed to say fuck that grave, because nobody would let a patch of crabgrass anywhere near a golf course. My neighbors have landscapers and they're always walking into my yard and spraying weeds on the perimeter of it.

I’m sure Trump sold it as the most beeyuuutiful gravesite ever and then proceeded to ignore it as a final humiliation for accusing him of rape. He wouldn’t tell them it was a tax write off and by the time they read it in the papers, it was too late.

The only colder move is Tiger Woods putting his dad in an unmarked grave.

I noticed The Hill has dropped all Trump-Epstein stories, at least as of this morning. The Washington Post has it as their top story.

SQUIRREL!!!

Trump got a tax break for including a certain number of burial plots at Bedminster.

Yes, but only for the small zone around Ivana, not the club as a whole. He also takes advantage of the "farmer scam" for selling a token amount of produce. A very wealthy family friend in the area got a significant break on his estate for selling a few bushes of apples annually.

He did that r57? I did read his father was a terrible person and that’s why Woods is so messed up re women.

He did. And his dad was a whore, yes.

[quote] He'll always have 4 out of 10 Americans who will happily drink his Kool-Aid.

It was once the informed wisdom that Trump's floor was between 33-35%. Which is why I won't be impressed until his approval plummets into the 30s.

His kids are like my stepfather's sons. In the divorce, they picked their psychopathic, narcissist mother because she had a rich-ish new husband. My step-father was just an ordinary slob in IT. They were bought with the promise of dirt bikes, a lake house with boats, etc. That's the Trump family. Currying favor with Daddy for inheritance.

Maybe Ivana was buried at the golf course to avoid getting an investigation if it turned out she were murdered.

R59, he's like a squid or a skunk spraying when its scared to create a diversion and speed away. He is in his anal gland era now

[quote]No I’m saying that Trump is a game show host. Why are people surprised when a sports show host weighs in? It’s all infotainment.

Because, Smith has political ambitions as a Democratic candidate for pres.

That’s my point. How could Stephen A. be worse than Trump? At least he probably isn’t a serial rapist.

IN DEPTH DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS TOPIC INCLUDING THE GRAVE SITE LOCATED ON A GOLF COURSE

About right, R64. I believe his approval includes some wavering support, reluctant to admit they're honestly tired of his antics.

Even though Trump's botched Covid response killed off hundreds of thousands of his own voters it still wasn't enough for his base to abandon him, so the best we can hope for is for him to resume killing off more of them!

Farmers you're first!

What is this squirrel reference I keep seeing?

I believe it means "Look over there!", r75.

lots of ugly distractions and a huge fetid mess.

remember this?

how about this?

R79, the Anal Gland Expression to that was Elon's Nazi salute the next day and the voting computers were never spoken of again. Elon jumped on his sword and kissed up to the atormfronters that he idolizes

R67 No "maybe" about it.

R74 It wasn't botched, it was deliberate. I feel that people often give Dump the benefit of the doubt that he's just dumb and incompetent. I'm not saying he isn't either of those things, but he deliberately underplayed Covid so his Polling numbers would stay up, and Stephen Miller deliberately held back resources from blue states so their citizens would get sick and die.

It's much easier to "govern" over a population of sick and dying as they don't have the strength to fight back. How to be a dictator 101.

The maggot cult is now up-and-arms over this post from their führer.

In the words of Adam Schiff, “Donald, piss off”.

How concerned are you, if at all, about Sen. Dick Durbin's (D-IL) recent statement that FBI agents were allegedly told to "flag" any Jeffrey Epstein-related records that mentioned President Donald Trump?

Very concerned = 57%

Somewhat concerned = 9%

Not concerned at all = 26%

Other / No opinion =7%

Based on 3,554 responses

This is quite fascinating.

Did they ask Shaky Sue Collins R83?

I wonder if a new nugget will come out this week. Where are the flagged Trump files, including videos and photos?

You remember this?

It is impossible at this point to determine what is the distraction and what is the main event.

That's the point, r88...or as I like to call you, Piano Keys.

Posting this again.

I'm in complete agreement with this sentiment.

oh the tangled web we weave

RESURFACED Ivana Photo Instantly EXPOSES TRUMP

Even The Hill couldn’t go a full day without a mention of the WSJ article. Hopefully the evidence is sinking him.

I don't know what informs the notion in some quarters here that The Hill is some right-wing site. It does include some conservatives - along with liberals - in its roster of columnists, but its reportage is not particularly ideologic.

Ivana Trump gave explicit details about how Donald assaulted her—taken from 1990 divorce sworn testimony.

"Ivana is crying and screaming. Entire bed is covered with strands of her golden locks. But Donald isn't finished. He rips off clothes and unzips his pants. Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months."

"Ivana is terrified. This is not lovemaking. This is not romantic sex. It is a violent assault. She later describes what Donald is doing to her in no uncertain terms. According to the version she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, 'He raped me.'"

"When Donald finally pulls out, Ivana jumps up from the bed. Then she runs upstairs to her mother's room. She locks the door and stays there crying for the rest of the night."

"The next morning Ivana musters up the courage to return to the master bedroom. Donald is there waiting for her. He leaves no doubt that he knows exactly what he did to her the night before."

"As she looks at him in horror at her ripped-out hair scattered all over the bed, he glares at her and asks with a menacing casualness, 'Does it hurt?'"

Postscript: Ivana Trump later reached a settlement with Donald in 1993—she agreed to release a statement saying she did not want her words interpreted in a "criminal sense" and that she wanted "this matter to be put to rest."

I would slightly agree but it’s a good sign they are not burying it like Fox.

^ The Hill

[quote] When Donald finally pulls out

5 words that should never be spoken.

With all the fucking crime and scandals the Orange Turd is responsible for, it's so easy to forget about his ex-wife's "accident".

My top 3 scandals for the OT in order; (and I believe all!)

1) Raping the 13-yr old girl along w/Epstein 2) Participating in a fake assassination attempt in Butler, PA 3) Somehow being complicit in Ivana's "accident". (my suspicion on this is that she was killed someplace else and her body was placed. I also consider the OT might not have ordered it, that possibly someone else had her killed as a warning to OT.

And I'm not even mentioning all the Treason he's committed.

More on Vance/Murdoch meeting this past Tuesday.

R96 God, that was horrible to read.

R101, so they met in early June *and* right before the WSJ released the bombshell?

This was worth the time. Michael Wolff spills what he knows about Epstein and Trump to Michael Cohen. Wolff doesn't believe any wild conspiracies that Epstein was a spy. He says Epstein was a social climber and influence peddler and was truly friends with Trump and vice versa. Cohen says he doesn't believe Trump is a child rapist on Epstein's turf, and that Trump doesn't have a real player's game with women, and isn't interested in sex for sex. Just power dynamics. Wolff seems to be too pollyanna about Epstein and of course Wolff was in thick with Epstein for some time. There are insights into Steve Bannon as well.