Birth certificate for dead parent?
Do any of you have experience with this situation?
If your father was born in one country*, but the town where he was born now belongs to a different country**, in which country would you begin the process of looking for a copy of his birth certificate?
*Germany
**Poland
If it makes any difference, he was born in the 1920s and died over thirty years ago.
Many thanks.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 18, 2025 1:07 PM
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You'd start with the old country if it was a major city.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | July 18, 2025 2:43 AM
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Do you have his passport?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | July 18, 2025 2:52 AM
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Don't bother. You're going to be deported anyway.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | July 18, 2025 4:15 AM
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you would start in the town he was born in and go from there. Duh. Those records are kept locally.
Poland - Local Civil Registry Office (Urząd Stanu Cywilnego) - each gmina (municipality) has its own Civil Registry Office
Germany - The Standesamt (civil registry office) of the municipality where the birth occurred keeps the official birth record
by Anonymous | reply 4 | July 18, 2025 4:16 AM
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Aren't those records online like at those ancestry sites? Unless you're looking for a duplicate and not just info, start there.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 18, 2025 4:23 AM
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I don’t have his passport, R2. I have his death certificate, my own birth certificate (which has his name on it) and a couple of other more random documents, but no passport.
R1, it was not a major city or, as far as I can tell, even a city at all. It’s a town with a current population of well under 4,000. Even if the population declined greatly since he was born, it was apparently a still a small place.
R5, if those ancestry sites do have birth certificates, that’s news to me. But I could certainly check. But I do need an actual certificate and not just birth-related info.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 18, 2025 4:30 AM
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My dad was born in Ireland and didn’t have a birth certificate but a baptismal certificate. That’s how he got his passport. So if your dad was Catholic you might be able to get that.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 18, 2025 4:41 AM
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It does not matter if it is s small city or a hamlet. If you are serious, move your butt and figure out a way to communicate with this city and ask where the birth certificates are currently. That is the way you get a copy, if it exists. This is true in many countries in the world. Also. Germany and Poland may have been destroyed in wars BUT, you would be surprised how much paper work survives in these bureaucratic cultures. Unless the town records were burned, they exist. These things are never destroyed at will.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | July 18, 2025 4:46 AM
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If you do NOT have his date of birth, it may be on his marriage certificate, so you can try to locate that in the USA, if he was married in the USA.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 18, 2025 4:47 AM
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Why do you need to find it?
by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 18, 2025 4:48 AM
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Was he Jewish? That may complicate matters. Also was it Prussian Poland or Austro Hungarian Poland or Russian Poland?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | July 18, 2025 4:50 AM
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I seem to recall a friend who was trying to obtain documents on his parents or grandparents born in Pola, Kingdom of Italy, now Pula, Croatia (and formerly, Pula, Yugoslavia). He was able to visit their hall of records and get copies.
Pola also used to be in Austria-Hungary just a few generations back so just imagine living in a place that kept changing nationalities.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | July 18, 2025 5:22 AM
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I don’t know. Getting my mom’s 17 years after her death in the US was drawn out enough.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | July 18, 2025 6:24 AM
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Ask the State Department.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | July 18, 2025 6:40 AM
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Start with that country's consulate, OP. They'd be able to help.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | July 18, 2025 7:03 AM
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R6. OP, you create hundreds of these types of threads and then get combative when people ask questions or offer help, knowing this story is bullshit to begin with. Can you not find a better hobby? Yoga? Scrapbooking?
by Anonymous | reply 16 | July 18, 2025 11:05 AM
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You can probably find it if you join Ancestry.com
by Anonymous | reply 18 | July 18, 2025 11:39 AM
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There is untold info online on how to do this.
Even better, there are companies that will find the records of deceased relatives for you, in the form of digital repros and/or legally certified official documents. Unless you think it would be great sport to cross back and forth across rural historic borders between two countries and practice your best German and Polish, just figure out what you need and pay someone who knows what he's doing to do it for you.
You will not be the first.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | July 18, 2025 11:56 AM
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Here's an example of an ancestry research service that can retrieve validated vital records.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 20 | July 18, 2025 11:58 AM
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I’m a member of Ancestry.com. They show compiled birth records, not the actual birth certificates as far as I’ve seen. You can try Family Search, which is free. But I believe it’s the same and they are now affiliated with Ancestry.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 18, 2025 1:07 PM
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