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Why Gwyneth Paltrow reached a ‘breaking point’ and ended Madonna friendship

In her upcoming book “Gwyneth: The Biography,” author Amy Odell writes about the reason former pals Gwyneth Paltrow and Madonna allegedly had a falling out over ten years ago.

Paltrow, according to an excerpt of the book published by People Wednesday, “reached a breaking point” in her friendship with Madonna, 66, after the singer allegedly showed up to an island where Paltrow, 52, was vacationing with her then-husband Chris Martin.

Madonna “insisted” that the couple join her for a group dinner, during which the Grammy Award winner allegedly “went off” on her daughter Lourdes Leon.

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“Gwyneth and Martin were disgusted by the behavior,” Odell claimed, adding that the Coldplay singer, 48, allegedly told Paltrow: “I can’t be around this woman anymore. She’s awful.”

The Goop founder, according to Odell, “agreed that Madonna was toxic and ended the friendship.”

Odell’s book, out July 29, is based on over 2220 interviews about Paltrow’s acting career, her relationships, and more.

The author claims that the vacation incident occurred “a few years” after Paltrow gave birth to her and Martin’s son Moses in 2006. The exes, who married in 2003 and split in 2014, also share daughter Apple, born in 2004.

Paltrow and Madonna formed a fast friendship in the late 1990s, and the Oscar winner gushed over their bond several years later.

“Everything I have gone through, she went through ten times worse and ten times longer,” Paltrow said in 2006, according to Us Weekly.

“She gives me good advice about how to say no and take care of myself.”

The pair reportedly have not been photographed together since 2010. Neither star has talked publicly about their friendship fallout.

But Paltrow alluded to the drama in April 2010 while speaking to British Vogue about business partner and celebrity personal trainer Tracy Anderson.

“Yeah, it’s good that [Tracy] doesn’t train Madonna any more. It was too much,” Paltrow stated. “She keeps people waiting — it takes up your whole day.”

The “Iron Man” actress also said at the time, “Oh yes, I can be mean. I can cave in to gossip. I can ice people out and I definitely harbor revenge.”

by Anonymousreply 1July 17, 2025 8:49 AM

Martin is very good about walking away from awful women.

by Anonymousreply 2July 17, 2025 8:54 AM

I don’t understand. Madonna “went off” on Lourdes? Can we get more details on what constitutes “going off”?

by Anonymousreply 3July 17, 2025 9:26 AM

Lourdes wanted to see IRON MAN 2 and Madonna said hell no, she heard it sucked!

by Anonymousreply 4July 17, 2025 10:05 AM

I’m struggling to understand who the audience for this book will be.

by Anonymousreply 5July 17, 2025 10:53 AM

I wouldn't spend money on it but I might borrow it from the library.

by Anonymousreply 6July 17, 2025 11:19 AM

Nothing about this story sounds anything less than credible.

I wouldn't say that I like Gwyneth Paltrow, but neither am I a member of the very large it seems "I Hate Gwyneth Paltrow Club." Three drinks in to an all-nighter at a blizzard trapped airport lounge bar, I think Paltrow might be a more interesting drinks companion than a lot of "nice" celebrities.

by Anonymousreply 7July 17, 2025 11:21 AM

I assume it was something along the lines of "fat, lazy and stupid is no way to go through life, missy", r3.

by Anonymousreply 8July 17, 2025 11:41 AM

Chris Martin had to be repulsed by her fake British accent.

by Anonymousreply 9July 17, 2025 11:45 AM

I’m repulsed by Chris Martin’s fetus head.

by Anonymousreply 10July 17, 2025 11:52 AM

Paltrow is a lot of things but she is obviously a good mum. Both her kids are excellent students and both are at uni. Madonna’s kids seem rootless and Lourdes in particular seems really lost. Madonna is a narcissist and seems like she would not be able to see any child as anything other than an extension of herself. She does seem like a horrible woman. There is a reason why Rocco lived primarily with his dad.

by Anonymousreply 11July 17, 2025 12:04 PM

R11 - how very dare you - ROCCO IS AN ARTISTE!!

by Anonymousreply 12July 17, 2025 12:10 PM

I've grown to like Goop and her awfulness, she owns it and I feel like a lot of what she says/does that is up for public consumption is tongue in cheek. She's in on the joke but at the same time owns it. She's clearly the spirit animal of the three blondes on White Lotus season three...

by Anonymousreply 13July 17, 2025 12:10 PM

I agree with R7, Gwyneth is… well sure, there’s a lot to mock, but she’d actually be kind of fun to talk with.

And I’d have felt the same way. Imagine going over to a friend’s for dinner at table and then the friend goes all hardcore Faye Dunaway on her own kid and you’re just sitting there trapped.

by Anonymousreply 14July 17, 2025 12:12 PM

R11 All of them (Paltrow, Martin, Madonna) are insufferable.

by Anonymousreply 15July 17, 2025 12:14 PM

Why in the world would anyone waste their time researching and writing a biography on Paltrow ? That's the biggest mystery.

by Anonymousreply 16July 17, 2025 12:15 PM

[quote] Madonna’s kids seem rootless

I don't think this is true at all. Madonna's kids have never gotten in any kind of trouble and they all seem stable. That already puts them above the majority of nepo babies.

by Anonymousreply 17July 17, 2025 12:16 PM

Lourdes just seems kind of lazy and unmotivated…which probably irritated type-A Madonna to no end.

by Anonymousreply 18July 17, 2025 12:29 PM

That’s always the irony R18. Extreme Type A moms expect their children to get that same drive via DNA, but the children are likely find their mother highly stressful and not at all a role model they want to emulate. This happened in my family. Brother’s ex wife was a $500K a year regional bank VP but wound tighter than a tennis racket and the tension was palpable and constant. Now their two kids are 20something slackers kind of failing to thrive. One is bumbling around working in a cannabis shop and the other is I’ve lost track but seemed totally unmotivated last i knew.

by Anonymousreply 19July 17, 2025 12:37 PM

Let’s make up! Does anyone have a ‘pair of scissors’?

by Anonymousreply 20July 17, 2025 12:42 PM

Lourdes hung her 2 sizes too small slutty dress on a wire hanger and all hell broke loose.

by Anonymousreply 21July 17, 2025 12:44 PM

Gwyneth is probably awful, but some of her antics are entertaining and she does seem in on the joke about her reputation. Whereas Madonna has zero sense of humor about anything.

by Anonymousreply 22July 17, 2025 12:47 PM

“She’s just so exhausting!”

by Anonymousreply 23July 17, 2025 12:48 PM

I thought the rumors were that Apple is a bullying mean girl who almost drove a classmate to suicide

by Anonymousreply 24July 17, 2025 12:54 PM

What r17 said. Lourdes and Rocco have never been wild druggies and have never gotten into any kind trouble. They seem pretty decent. They're not like Elijah Allman FFS.

by Anonymousreply 25July 17, 2025 1:16 PM

Paltrow is on the Epstein list. That’s a joke - but I’m absolutely confident she’s involved in pushing underaged girls to sleep with producers and celebrity friends. Specifically Dr.Luke.

by Anonymousreply 26July 17, 2025 1:23 PM

R11 You’ve obviously never heard the stories about Apple being a grade a terror. .

Gwyneth is the definition of a nepo baby. And after what she did to Winona Ryder (which she bragged about no less). I dont think she has any moral high ground. Madonna probably got tired of her bullshit,

Give Madonna credit, no one could have done what she did. Meanwhile, a majority of blondes could have done Gwyneth’s roles.

by Anonymousreply 27July 17, 2025 1:31 PM

Madonna starved in lower Manhattan and Brooklyn for years, was flat broke and had no connections. That gave her an incredible drive to succeed because she had nowhere to go back to.

by Anonymousreply 28July 17, 2025 1:58 PM

Note to Ryan Murphy.

by Anonymousreply 29July 17, 2025 2:06 PM

Pretty funny, considering Gwynnie used to treat Martin like shit in public.

by Anonymousreply 30July 17, 2025 2:16 PM

R28, lots of people have had one parent die. Yes, it's very sad, but it doesn't mean one has "nowhere to go back to". Madonna had a large family, including a hard-working father who did his best in a tough situation. She chose to portray herself as an abandoned, scrappy waif for publicity, but that was far from the reality.

by Anonymousreply 31July 17, 2025 2:24 PM

r31 she hated Michigan and was never going back there.

by Anonymousreply 32July 17, 2025 2:27 PM

I was at the next table and I heard Madonna demanding to smell Lourdes fingers. I didn't hear why. That is all.

by Anonymousreply 33July 17, 2025 2:30 PM

Again, R32, "hating Michigan" and "not going back there" are CHOICES she made. That didn't mean she COULDN'T go back, had she wanted to.

by Anonymousreply 34July 17, 2025 2:32 PM

r34 she really had nowhere to go back to. She was going to make it in NY no matter what.

by Anonymousreply 35July 17, 2025 2:55 PM

couldn’t go back to her stepmother

by Anonymousreply 36July 17, 2025 3:28 PM

[quote] I’m repulsed by Chris Martin’s fetus head.

ROFL! What's a "fetus head?"

by Anonymousreply 37July 17, 2025 3:29 PM

In Chicago a few years back, I was at a charity auction fundraiser for homeless animals. Chris Martin was sitting at my table; I had no idea who he was of course!!

by Anonymousreply 38July 17, 2025 3:32 PM

*sigh* Madonna was soooo pretty.

by Anonymousreply 39July 17, 2025 3:32 PM

[quote] Paltrow is on the Epstein list. That’s a joke - but I’m absolutely confident she’s involved in pushing underaged girls to sleep with producers and celebrity friends. Specifically Dr.Luke.

R26 you wrote that you're joking, but your post reminded me that Paltrow was once best friends with Mario Batali.

Yes, Mario Batali who was accused of sexual misconduct.

It always struck me as odd, that she would be friends with him, and NOT know that he was doing these things.

He was also involved in shady business practices. From his Wiki:

[quote] In 1998, Batali, Joe Bastianich, and Lidia Bastianich formed the B&B Hospitality Group, also known as Batali & Bastianich Hospitality Group. The flagship restaurant for B&B is Babbo in New York City which had a Michelin star for several years.

[quote] In 2012, a lawsuit was settled by Batali (and B&B) with 117 members of the restaurant staff, who alleged that the Batali organization had skimmed a percentage of the tip pools in his restaurants over a period of years.

[quote] On December 11, 2017, restaurant news website Eater reported that four women accused Batali of sexual harassment and sexual assault. By the following day, four more women had come forward.

[quote] Producers of ABC's The Chew fired him on December 14, 2017. Food Network halted plans to release episodes of his television show Molto Mario after the allegations. Target announced that it was no longer selling Batali's pasta sauces and cookbooks.

[quote] In May 2018, more accusations of sexual assault against Batali were aired on an episode of 60 Minutes, and the New York Police Department confirmed it was investigating Batali for his past behavior, including an alleged assault that took place at The Spotted Pig, a restaurant where Batali was an investor.

[quote] Batali denied an allegation of sexual assault, but said "My past behavior has been deeply inappropriate and I am sincerely remorseful for my actions." Days later, Batali's company B&B Hospitality Group announced it would be closing its three Las Vegas Strip restaurants after the Las Vegas Sands Corporation terminated the companies' relationship.

[quote] In March 2019, Batali surrendered ownership of his stakes in Batali & Bastianich Hospitality Group, a partnership between Batali and the Bastianich family, including Joe and Lidia Bastianich. He also sold his minority ownership in Eataly, an Italian food marketplace.

[quote] In July 2021, Batali, Bastianich, and their former restaurant company agreed to a settlement in the New York state case that was under investigation by the Attorney General of New York wherein they would pay $600,000 to more than 20 former employees (men and women) of three restaurants in Manhattan.

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by Anonymousreply 40July 17, 2025 3:42 PM

Lourdes does not seem stable. The times she's caught on camera she seems dead-eyed and depressed. Maybe she's just stoned as fuck but it makes her look like shit.

by Anonymousreply 41July 17, 2025 3:48 PM

Madonna makes Joan Crawford look like June Cleaver

by Anonymousreply 42July 17, 2025 4:30 PM

I thought then and still think now that GP and Madonna were lovers during that time.

by Anonymousreply 43July 17, 2025 4:41 PM

I don't get a vibe from Gwyneth at all that she's ever munched on roast beef curtains.

by Anonymousreply 44July 17, 2025 4:42 PM

I've had that vibe about her since the 90s! I think she's mostly into men and prefers men as her long term partners, but I think she's had BFF/lover relationships with at least Winona, Cam Diaz, and Madonna.

by Anonymousreply 45July 17, 2025 4:44 PM

I can see Cameron Diaz as one of those gals who eats pussy when she'd drunk enough.

by Anonymousreply 46July 17, 2025 4:46 PM

They're all insufferable in their own special ways.

by Anonymousreply 47July 17, 2025 4:49 PM

Nah, I don't think Gwyneth is into women...she really likes getting the male attention, always has.

Has she dipped her toes in that pool, most probably. But I don't think it would give her the ego boost she gets from men that she craves.

by Anonymousreply 48July 17, 2025 4:55 PM

[quote]I don't think this is true at all. Madonna's kids have never gotten in any kind of trouble and they all seem stable.

Rocco was arrested for drinking under a bridge. Lourdes is a dropout druggie.

by Anonymousreply 49July 17, 2025 4:59 PM

Madonna publicly stated two years ago that her daughter is lazy and her adopted son takes after her. The books these kids are gonna write will be epic. I don’t think NDAs can be upheld after death. Madonna probably had her kids sign contracts that they won’t say anything about her to the media as long as she’s alive.

by Anonymousreply 50July 17, 2025 5:01 PM

Lourdes posted videos stoned out of her mind with her knuckle tattoos telling haters that they’re basic and to suck her dick. Madonna sent her to the best schools and she talks like someone who grew up in a trailer park. She’s 29 years old and has no job and looks drugged out of her mind all the time.

by Anonymousreply 51July 17, 2025 5:04 PM

Rocco shaved his head after a judge demanded that he be drug tested. Guy Ritchie reportedly didn’t make her go to school. Rocco ran away from Madonna and they didn’t speak for a while. It was during her 2015 tour. I wonder what she did that had him running back to live with his father.

by Anonymousreply 52July 17, 2025 5:05 PM

R52, he seems like the kind of kid that doesn't like discipline. Madonna seems like she would actually be pretty strict in some ways.

by Anonymousreply 53July 17, 2025 5:19 PM

It's been widely reported that she was indeed a strict mother. Given her self discipline, this tracks.

by Anonymousreply 54July 17, 2025 5:30 PM

Supposedly the book goes into ghe winona story as well and it’s not as has been reported.

by Anonymousreply 55July 17, 2025 5:40 PM

I'm sure Gwyneth will paint herself in the best possible light in each and every situation described in the book. She will probably deny that she's a nepo baby and claim that her vag candles are what got her to where she is.

by Anonymousreply 56July 17, 2025 5:46 PM

Madonna brings her children on her tours where she’s taking out the tits and tonguing her dancers. I’d run away too. Bringing in young boys to fuck her must really fuck with her kids’ heads. Her daughter is older than her mother’s boyfriends. They’re the same age as her son.

by Anonymousreply 57July 17, 2025 5:47 PM

Lourdes is a model, Rocco is an artist.

David Banda was in training in Portugal to become a soccer player. That's why Madonna moved there for a period of time, so he could get the best training.

Mercy plays piano and has a heavy interest in music. I don't know about the twins.

Madonna seems very close with all of her kids. They're always together for the holidays and special occasions. And she's seemed to have become much more of a stay-at-home parent in the last decade. NYC seems to be her primary residence, as that townhouse is where a majority of her Instagram photos and videos are taken in.

by Anonymousreply 58July 17, 2025 5:52 PM

The book also mentions how Gwenyth had to school Brad Pitt on the different types of caviar. He is so uncouth!

by Anonymousreply 59July 17, 2025 5:52 PM

Oh, really, Chris Martin? You just couldn't stand to be around Madonna? Please. Your band is basically Radiohead for Dummies. You're the poor man's dumbed-down version of Thom Yorke. God, Coldplay fucking sucks.

by Anonymousreply 60July 17, 2025 5:54 PM

Criticizing Madonna for being toxic is like saying “I just can’t with this Sun anymore. Why is it so hot???”

by Anonymousreply 61July 17, 2025 5:55 PM

R60, it's so funny that's how Coldplay started. Coldplay is now Maroon 5 for clueless robots. I cringed the other day when someone online described Coldplay as a "rock" band.

by Anonymousreply 62July 17, 2025 6:06 PM

I was almost raped by Harvey Weinstein. As I was racing out of his hotel room buttoning my blouse, he remarked that Madonna was unfuckable.

by Anonymousreply 63July 17, 2025 6:06 PM

[quote]Bringing in young boys to fuck her must really fuck with her kids’ heads.

Just imagine your own mother, in her 60s, fucking guys in their 20s. How repulsed would you be?

by Anonymousreply 64July 17, 2025 6:07 PM

I have always hated Gwyneth intensely, and cannot wish enough bad things for her. She is beyond horrible. Everyone knows how Madonna is, so it's hilarious when people get their panties bunched up at her.

by Anonymousreply 65July 17, 2025 6:26 PM

My mom is Madonna's age and I'd be fine with it, r64. As long as she divorced my dad first. People don't have to stop having fun just because they become parents. It's not like she fucks these men in front of her kids.

by Anonymousreply 66July 17, 2025 6:26 PM

R24 Paltrow was the ultimate Dalton mean girl so that tracks.

by Anonymousreply 67July 17, 2025 6:37 PM

Or was it Spence?

by Anonymousreply 68July 17, 2025 6:39 PM

I don’t hate Paltrow. I just think her privileged background has given her a Marie Antoinette-ishness that actually isn’t her fault.

I come from a working class background and in college I encountered many of these people. It’s actually kind of cute, how out of touch they are.

by Anonymousreply 69July 17, 2025 7:19 PM

It's cute when someone is in their teens or early 20s, NOT when the person is like 50 years old already.

by Anonymousreply 70July 17, 2025 7:32 PM

[quote]Lourdes is a model

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by Anonymousreply 71July 17, 2025 7:42 PM

lol.

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by Anonymousreply 72July 17, 2025 7:43 PM

Gorgeous.

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by Anonymousreply 73July 17, 2025 7:44 PM

30 year old plus size model. She stomps down the run way. She’s built like a linebacker.

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by Anonymousreply 74July 17, 2025 7:46 PM

This photo was MADE for your post, R63!

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by Anonymousreply 75July 17, 2025 7:53 PM

Madonna should've stopped fucking with her face at that time, r75. She looked great and didn't need anymore work done.

by Anonymousreply 76July 17, 2025 8:21 PM

That you know of, R66.

by Anonymousreply 77July 17, 2025 8:50 PM

I wonder if Gwynnie and Cameron sucked Harvey's tiny, stinky cock after this photo was taken?

Gwyneth is practically humping Harvey's leg.

No wonder they gave her the Academy Award. She had to work hard for it.

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by Anonymousreply 78July 17, 2025 8:53 PM

Now that's a GUT on her in r71

by Anonymousreply 79July 17, 2025 9:14 PM

The weird thing about Gwyneth Paltrow is that she has SOME self-knowledge, but only some. She likes to play around with the fact that people think she's New Age and into all kinds of woo-woo, because she considers herself very grounded and so that's funny to her.

But she does not seem to realize the reason she was once voted the most despised celebrity in America is not because of that, but rather because she's considered so monstrously stuck-up. But to her that's not a flaw--she really does think of herself as genuinely better than everyone else.

by Anonymousreply 80July 17, 2025 9:17 PM

R78 I would assume so.

by Anonymousreply 81July 17, 2025 9:48 PM

Ok be that way, r70

by Anonymousreply 82July 18, 2025 12:31 AM

R11 Rocco is everything Madonna wanted in a son and given the path he’s on, it’s all driven to be Madonna’s favorite so idk what you’re talking about.

by Anonymousreply 83July 18, 2025 12:41 AM

R76 I don’t think she had work done. She was probably getting Botox but she didn’t start fucking with her face until 50. As soon as she turned 50 she got a facelift and fillers.

by Anonymousreply 84July 18, 2025 12:43 AM

Gwyneth's pussy stinks!

by Anonymousreply 85July 18, 2025 12:44 AM

I bet my bottom dollar Gwynie was overly offended because of her new age Hollywood, “sensitive little feelings”, a child demands the same level of respect as an adult, style of parenting. Madge is still from Detroit bitch 😂. This is all jokes but I bet it has something to do with that in a more realistic fashion.

by Anonymousreply 86July 18, 2025 2:05 AM

I don’t understand why Lourdes is so thick. Why is she so fucking thick. But she looks like both her parents in the face. I guess Madonna’s body would have evolved differently if she weren’t a millionaire for the past 40 years. But I still see Madonna thick, fat but not thick lol.

by Anonymousreply 87July 18, 2025 2:08 AM

[quote]Madonna should've stopped fucking with her face at that time, [R75]. She looked great and didn't need anymore work done.

That was 1998. She looked scary by 2002. She needed work done. She has scary to look at.

by Anonymousreply 88July 18, 2025 2:23 AM

[quote]Rocco is everything Madonna wanted in a son and given the path he’s on, it’s all driven to be Madonna’s favorite so idk what you’re talking about.

lol. She has very little to do with him. He lives in England. It’s all about her adopted son David. She’s obsessed with him. Probably fucked Jim already. She’s sick.

by Anonymousreply 89July 18, 2025 2:24 AM

Does anyone not reach a breaking point with Madonna? Does she have any long lasting relationships? It seems like she’s burned everyone she’s ever been close to.

by Anonymousreply 90July 18, 2025 3:07 AM

R90, she's still friends with Ingrid Cazares and Debi Mazar.

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by Anonymousreply 91July 18, 2025 3:31 AM

[quote] Gwyneth's pussy stinks!

That’s actually the candle you’re smelling!

by Anonymousreply 92July 18, 2025 3:36 AM

R88 stop talking daft, I am not a fan but Madonna still looked brilliant in 2002.

by Anonymousreply 93July 18, 2025 5:21 AM

[quote]I bet my bottom dollar Gwynie was overly offended because of her new age Hollywood, “sensitive little feelings”, a child demands the same level of respect as an adult, style of parenting. Madge is still from Detroit bitch 😂. This is all jokes but I bet it has something to do with that in a more realistic fashion.

There is also a generational difference. Madonna is 14 years older than Gwyneth. Madge is a Boomer, while Goop is Gen X. There are going to be differences in parenting styles.

by Anonymousreply 94July 18, 2025 5:43 AM

Lourdes has a mustache

by Anonymousreply 95July 18, 2025 5:45 AM

[quote]It’s all about her adopted son David. She’s obsessed with him. Probably fucked Jim already. She’s sick.

Mirror?

Lately??

by Anonymousreply 96July 18, 2025 5:51 AM

[quote]NYC seems to be her primary residence, as that townhouse is where a majority of her Instagram photos and videos are taken in.

She posted photos of herself casting a ballot in New York for Kamala Harris. So New York is her primary residence if that’s where she’s registered to vote.

by Anonymousreply 97July 18, 2025 5:52 AM

For all her faults, Madonna seems like a present mother, not good, not bad, but present, which is a major thing, specially for someone with a busy schedule. That she took her kids on tour works in her favour. Yeah, Lourdes looks morose and depressed but that is not necessarily her Mother’s fault, at thirty she should be doing something out of her life. To me the red flag re Madonna is her inability to maintain any significant long term friendships, she has a track record of feuds and broken ties.

Agree that Paltrow may be fun to have a drink or two, but i think her bitch personna is probably better to be appreciated at some distance.

by Anonymousreply 98July 18, 2025 7:26 AM

They're both assholes but Madonna seems like the more interesting person. She also didn't name her kid "apple".

by Anonymousreply 99July 18, 2025 7:58 AM

[quote] specially for someone with a busy schedule

Oh, DEAR!

by Anonymousreply 100July 18, 2025 10:30 AM

The grammar and spelling Nazis patrolling this board for errors and then pouncing on them are so fucking pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 101July 18, 2025 12:13 PM

Gwyneth is indeed awful, but awful in a "normal" way; self-centered, privileged, pretentious, snarky.

Madonna is certifiably insane and likely abusive to everyone around them at all times. Next level awful.

Gwyneth is like that friend-of-a-friend that you smile at and air-kiss but roll your eyes at behind their back. Madonna is someone you cross the street to avoid.

by Anonymousreply 102July 18, 2025 12:36 PM

I would love to see a psychiatrist's professional diagnoses of both Madonna and Gwyneth. They both have some serious Cluster-B issues.

by Anonymousreply 103July 18, 2025 12:41 PM

Madonna is tight with her money. Lourdes could end up like Tori Spelling living in a trailer park if she doesn’t get a job.

by Anonymousreply 104July 18, 2025 12:46 PM

[quote] She looked scary by 2002.

No, she really didn't. She didn't start looking bad until the Rebel Heart time period, that's when she started really messing with her face.

by Anonymousreply 105July 18, 2025 12:48 PM

Gwynnie seems rather humorless.

by Anonymousreply 106July 18, 2025 12:57 PM

I'm sorry, but how does that work? She shows up where you're on vacation? At some point Gwyneth must have said hey we're in Hawaii come join us?

by Anonymousreply 107July 18, 2025 1:01 PM

Girls, girls, you’re both useless cunts.

by Anonymousreply 108July 18, 2025 1:02 PM

R106, she's also bland as shit. Seriously, when has Gwyneth ever seemed remotely exciting or "cool"? Never.

by Anonymousreply 109July 18, 2025 1:08 PM

An office frau from my last private sector job thought Gwyneth was beautiful. She’d be perplexed when I disagreed with her on the subject.

by Anonymousreply 110July 18, 2025 1:19 PM

R104, aside from her modeling gigs and brand endorsements, Lourdes, I believe, is still co-owner of Material Girl clothing sold exclusively at Macy's. I don't know how profitable it is but I'm sure there's a little bit of money coming in.

by Anonymousreply 111July 18, 2025 1:57 PM

I saw a copy of Gwyneth's new bio here in Ireland. I must say I had forgotten her nose was a bit wider in the early '90s.

by Anonymousreply 112July 18, 2025 2:49 PM

[quote]Lourdes is a model

If you say so. She only gets hired for mom's name. Otherwise she'd be laughed out off the runway. Nicole's homely daughter is the same.

by Anonymousreply 113July 18, 2025 3:07 PM

[quote]Lourdes is a model

Let’s stop with that.

by Anonymousreply 114July 18, 2025 3:11 PM

[quote] Lourdes is a model

Yeah, she's such a successful and famous model that she was denied entry to a Marc Jacobs fashion show.

That was goddamn hilarious.

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by Anonymousreply 115July 18, 2025 3:11 PM

Lourdes needs to stay OFF camera as much as possible. Seriously, how did she end up so thick? I still cannot believe Timothy Chalamet dated her.

by Anonymousreply 116July 18, 2025 3:14 PM

I think people that are hyper-ambitious to the point that it borders on pathological shouldn’t have kids. Growing up with the intrinsic knowledge you’re always a second priority exacts a heavy psychological toll.

by Anonymousreply 117July 18, 2025 3:49 PM

[quote]Yeah, she's such a successful and famous model that she was denied entry to a Marc Jacobs fashion show.

To be fair, she was denied entry because she was late and not necessarily because she's a flop.

by Anonymousreply 118July 18, 2025 4:22 PM

A shame about Lourdes, since her dad is so hot. And her mom WAS good looking….SUUUUMERTYYYYYYYYUUUUME an’ de’ libbin’ iz eeeeeeaaaaazzzzzyyyyyyy….

by Anonymousreply 119July 18, 2025 4:25 PM

[quote] Lourdes is a model

Yes: the Model T (with T in this case being for "tranny").

by Anonymousreply 120July 18, 2025 4:38 PM

[quote]To be fair, she was denied entry because she was late and not necessarily because she's a flop.

If she was anybody of importance, she would have been allowed in.

by Anonymousreply 121July 18, 2025 4:38 PM

[quote]No, she [Madonna] really didn't start looking scary by 2002). She didn't start looking bad until the Rebel Heart time period [released 2015], that's when she started really messing with her face.

To my surprise, a quick survey of Google Images by year shows R105 to be correct to within a year. I had assumed that it had been going on much longer, but her physical transformation into Madonna-Monster can be seen in these 4 photos. Truly, her magical transformation of the flesh is just 10 or 11 years in its horror stage.

Top to bottom, left to right:

1.) 2007 Taking her inspiration from Marlene Dietrich, Alabama cocktail waitress, and 1960s French Canadian brothel madam

2.) 2011 "Aren't fillers and filters fun totally fun?"

3.) 2013 "Can't you let the seams out any more? These Polish potato pancakes are delicious!"

4.) 2014 What the fucking holy hell is this rabid chipmunk?

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by Anonymousreply 122July 18, 2025 5:02 PM

I thought these two fell out over fitness person Tracy Anderson. That was the scuttlebutt maybe a decade ago.

by Anonymousreply 123July 18, 2025 5:06 PM

R122, those pictures remind me that she would look 50-70% better if she just removed those damn grills!!!

by Anonymousreply 124July 18, 2025 5:51 PM

Lourdes was the "new face of Marc Jacobs" a few years back. Why would they deny her entry?

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by Anonymousreply 125July 18, 2025 5:53 PM

[quote]I don’t understand why Lourdes is so thick. Why is she so fucking thick?

You white boys, I swear. The bitch is half Latina.

by Anonymousreply 126July 18, 2025 5:54 PM

[quote] Rocco shaved his head after a judge demanded that he be drug tested. Guy Ritchie reportedly didn’t make her go to school. Rocco ran away from Madonna and they didn’t speak for a while. It was during her 2015 tour. I wonder what she did that had him running back to live with his father.

I read that she threatened to confiscate his iPhone if he didn’t clean up his act.

by Anonymousreply 127July 18, 2025 5:59 PM

BTW, R40 is painting Batali out to be someone he is not. He is hardly a sexual predator. He was found not guilty on charges and the main witness was said to have extreme credibility issues. And her claims were he drunkenly grabbed her breast and ass. That was the extent of the charge. At most I could see him and others doing blow and having sex with women in the upstairs room and the Spotted Pig. Behavior obviously not suitable for a married celebrity chef with kids. But hardly a fucking sexual predatory. He was a victim of the #metoo witch hunt. All criminal charges dropped and paid to make the civil cases go away. Hell hath no fury, as they say.

As far as skimming off the top, that has happened at every restaurant I have ever worked at in MYC. That group was huge and had like 10 restaurants. He probably had no idea. It’s not like he was in the back cooking the books too.

by Anonymousreply 128July 18, 2025 6:06 PM

[quote] I bet my bottom dollar Gwynie was overly offended because of her new age Hollywood, “sensitive little feelings”, a child demands the same level of respect as an adult, style of parenting.

I read several times over the years the opposite, that Paltrow didn’t do child-led “gentle parenting”, she raised her children to introduce themselves to company, to greet guests, and to have conversations at the dinner table.

At the very minimum they won’t be incels.

by Anonymousreply 129July 18, 2025 6:06 PM

r125 - Exactly, that was in "Spring 2021"...and she was denied entrance just TWO YEARS later to his show (2023).

r121 - I came on here to say just the same exact thing, but you beat me to it.

If you were a) anyone of importance and b) a former "face of Marc Jacobs" just two short years ago AND in still in good standing with the Marc Jacobs brand, they'd let you into the show and not quibble about you "being late." The fact that they didn't shows that she might have burned that bridge because of (insert whatever here).

by Anonymousreply 130July 18, 2025 6:43 PM

[quote]she's still friends with Ingrid Cazares and Debi Mazar.

Ingrid, the cokehead, would eat Madonna’s shit if she told her to.

by Anonymousreply 131July 18, 2025 6:56 PM

[quote]A shame about Lourdes, since her dad is so hot.

No he’s not. Lourdes looks like some tranny chola you’d see on a street corner. She’s too long in the tooth to be a model. She’s not at all attractive. She gallops down the catwalk. She’s like Kamala’s ugly stepdaughter being made into a model. Not gonna happen.

by Anonymousreply 132July 18, 2025 6:58 PM

You could at least have an intellectual conversation with Madonna.

GOOP probably has Eat Pray Love as her favorite book.

by Anonymousreply 133July 18, 2025 7:03 PM

[quote]You could at least have an intellectual conversation with Madonna.

No, you couldn’t.

by Anonymousreply 134July 18, 2025 7:18 PM

It's hard to prove in court that someone groped you, r128. You sound like a redditor when you make the "not guilty so it means he didn't do it" argument. I doubt you'd be making excuses for that fat fuck if he touched your dick or squeezed your mother's tit. Classic case of some asshole dismissing a stranger's negative experience because they want to suck up to a celebrity they'll never meet.

Not that your comment has anything to do with the topic.

by Anonymousreply 135July 18, 2025 8:00 PM

[quote] No, you couldn’t.

Yes, you could. Madonna has a lot of interest in art, literature, jazz, etc. You could at least superficially talk to her about these things. Lourdes looks like her brain melted sometime between 1998 and 2008.

by Anonymousreply 136July 18, 2025 8:02 PM

Madonna would have better stories at least, being part of the NYC underground scene.

by Anonymousreply 137July 18, 2025 8:03 PM

What I find really weird about Lourdes is that she gets so pissed off when people ask her about what it's like being Madonna's daughter. And she will retort back with something like "no, let's talk about YOUR mom!". Which is just so childish and stupid. Seriously, what are people supposed to talk to her about, her long list of non-accomplishments?!

by Anonymousreply 138July 18, 2025 8:22 PM

[quote]Yes, you could. Madonna has a lot of interest in art, literature, jazz, etc

Honey, Madonna is not Mensa material. We have her misspelled letter to the President of Malawi and she still says “anyways.” She’s a lightweight. Madonna has street smarts, I’ll give her that, but intellectual she isn’t.

by Anonymousreply 139July 18, 2025 8:22 PM

[quote]You could at least have an intellectual conversation with Madonna.

Because of her extensive college education? She took almost nothing but dance classes.

by Anonymousreply 140July 18, 2025 8:26 PM

[quote] Yes, you could. Madonna has a lot of interest in art, literature, jazz, etc.

She's the Susan Sontag of her generation!

by Anonymousreply 141July 18, 2025 8:27 PM

R139, everyone mispells shit all the time now when left to their own devices because of the ubiquity of spell-checkers. I wouldn't really hold that against someone. And I wasn't saying she was necessarily an intellectual, but she could at least have superficial discussions about those topics I listed. I don't think the same can be said about Lourdes.

by Anonymousreply 142July 18, 2025 8:29 PM

OK, that should have been "misspells".

by Anonymousreply 143July 18, 2025 8:30 PM

[quote]Honey, Madonna is not Mensa material

She’s no Sharon Stone.

by Anonymousreply 144July 18, 2025 8:32 PM

R144, I'm still amazed Sharon got away with that for so long. I even remember it being a question on Jeopardy!!

by Anonymousreply 145July 18, 2025 8:37 PM

[quote]t's hard to prove in court that someone groped you,

Especially when you're lying r135

by Anonymousreply 146July 18, 2025 9:44 PM

Fuck you, R2!

by Anonymousreply 147July 18, 2025 9:49 PM

Bitch stole MY IQ and Mensa membership.

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by Anonymousreply 148July 18, 2025 9:58 PM

[quote]If you were a) anyone of importance and b) a former "face of Marc Jacobs" just two short years ago AND in still in good standing with the Marc Jacobs brand, they'd let you into the show and................

R130, Blah! Blah! Blah!

They told her she couldn't come in because the show was in progress and she was told to come 10 minutes before the time she got there.

However, they also told her she could come back at 7 for the next show.

She did, they let her in, and Vogue covered her.

Hermes wouldn't even let Oprah in their damn store when she showed up late. It has nothing to do with who you are. It's just rude and obnoxious.

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by Anonymousreply 149July 19, 2025 12:49 AM

[quote] everyone mispells shit all the time

Oh, dear. You don’t sent a letter to the president of Malawi with misspellings, shit-for-brains.

by Anonymousreply 150July 19, 2025 2:21 AM

^^the fuck do you care who sends a letter to the president of fucking Malawi? Jesus, just fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 151July 19, 2025 2:24 AM

I thought it was because Guy had fucked Goop?

by Anonymousreply 152July 19, 2025 2:26 AM

Beyoncé dumped Gwyneth’s ass as well. There were rumors that she was putting the moves on Jay.

Maybe the problem is Gwyneth. She seems skanky.

by Anonymousreply 153July 19, 2025 2:32 AM

[quote] Hermes wouldn't even let Oprah in their damn store when she showed up late. It has nothing to do with who you are. It's just rude and obnoxious.

r149 - And you don't think that was a loud and clear message Hermes was giving to her - to let her know she wasn't as important as SHE thought she was.

So...BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! Right back at ya, asshole!

by Anonymousreply 154July 19, 2025 3:00 AM
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