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California couple used surrogates to produce 21 CHILDREN for them!

Twenty-one children are in the custody of a California child-welfare agency while authorities investigate a Los Angeles-area couple and whether they misled surrogate mothers around the country.

Fifteen children were removed from the couple's opulent home in Arcadia after an abuse allegation in May, and another six living elsewhere were also located, Arcadia police Lt. Kollin Cieadlo said. They range in age from 2 months to 13 years, with most between 1 and 3.

“We believe one or two were born biologically to the mother,” he said. “There are some surrogates who have come forward and said they were surrogates for the children.”

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by Anonymousreply 35July 17, 2025 9:26 PM

Silvia Zhang, 38, and Guojun Xuan, 65, are believed to be the legal parents, Cieadlo said.

They were arrested in May after a hospital reported that their 2-month-old infant had a traumatic head injury, the result of a nanny at the home violently shaking the baby, Arcadia police said. The child was not taken to the hospital for another two days.

Cieadlo said neglect charges were not formally pursued in order for an investigation to continue. The couple told police that they “wanted a large family,” the lieutenant said.

Zhang produced what appeared to be legitimate birth certificates, including some from outside California, that list her as the mother of the children, Cieadlo said.

He said the FBI is also part of the investigation. A spokesperson declined to comment when reached Wednesday by The Associated Press.

“I'm not familiar with how the surrogacy laws work,” Cieadlo said. “We need to do a much deeper dive.”

TV stations in Los Angeles quoted women who said they were surrogate mothers for the couple but that they didn’t realize so many other surrogates were also involved.

It wasn’t immediately clear if Zhang and Xuan had a lawyer who could speak on their behalf. Zhang did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment.

Business records with the California Secretary of State show a company called Mark Surrogacy Investment LLC was previously registered at the couple's address. The most recent filing shows the business license was terminated in June.

Kallie Fell, director of The Center for Bioethics and Culture, which believes surrogacy exploits women, posted a recent YouTube video of her interview with a Texas woman, Kayla Elliott, who gave birth last spring.

“She was lied to. She was told this couple had one other child and they wanted one more child to complete a family,” Fell told The Associated Press. “She didn't know they were the owners of the surrogacy agency. They operate with zero oversight.”

Elliott didn't return a request for comment. But she is trying to raise money to seek to have the child placed with her.

“I am prepared and deeply committed to providing that for her, but the legal process to secure placement is complex and costly,” Elliott said in her appeal on the fundraising site GoFundMe.

The Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services, which removed the couple's children, said it could not talk about its actions in a specific case.

by Anonymousreply 1July 17, 2025 12:58 AM

Fucking Freaks. I can’t even imagine wanting one kid, let alone 21 kids.

by Anonymousreply 2July 17, 2025 12:59 AM

What in the fucking hell were these people up to?

No good, obviously.

But beyond that....

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by Anonymousreply 3July 17, 2025 1:00 AM

Who knew purchasing kids from broodmares would have so many pitfalls?

by Anonymousreply 4July 17, 2025 1:00 AM

ARCADIA, Calif. (KABC) -- An Arcadia couple's 21 children - all from surrogate mothers - have been placed in protective custody amid an investigation.

Arcadia police stumbled upon a house on Camino Real Avenue while investigating a child abuse case involving a 2-month-old suffering a traumatic head injury.

After getting a search warrant, detectives seized security cameras from inside the home and made some alarming discoveries.

"We discovered numerous children - 15 children to be specific - ranging in ages from 2 months old to 13 years old," Arcadia police Lt. Kollin Cieadlo said.

"Many of the children were birthed through surrogacy and then the male and female at the residence took legal guardianship of those kids," Cieadlo added.

Six other children, investigators say, had been moved to other homes. All 21 of the kids were confirmed to be the children of 65-year-old Guojun Xuan and 38-year-old Silvia Zhang. They were arrested for felony child endangerment but later released.

Police have also issued an arrest warrant for their nanny, 56-year-old Chunmei Li. Investigators say after looking at surveillance video, she is the main suspect in the child abuse case and is still on the loose.

"The discipline, both verbally and physical, was severe to the point where it supported the beliefs that child abuse was occurring inside the home," Cieadlo said.

Sources told Eyewitness News that of the 21 children, 17 are 3 years old or younger. Police say all 21 children are in the custody of Department of Children and Family Services.

Where did all those children come from? That is what the FBI is trying to figure out. The bureau refused to comment on the case, but Arcadia police confirmed that their detectives are working with the FBI.

Arcadia's investigation, though, determined that the children are the product of a surrogacy operation owned by Zhang and Xuan.

No charges have been filed. The Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office is not commenting on the case.

"It's horrific, it's disturbing, it's damaging emotionally," said Kayla Elliot, one of the surrogate mothers hired by Zhang and Xuan.

She says they told her they only had one other child. She's now hoping to get custody of the child that she had for the couple.

"These agencies, we're supposed to trust them and follow their guidance and come to find out this whole thing was a scam, and the parents own the agency - that was not disclosed at all beforehand," Elliot said.

"Anything goes. And these clinics, these agencies are not regulated by any governing body," said Kallie Fell, executive director of the nonprofit Center of Bioethics and Culture.

Fell is working with Elliot. She says having more than 20 children through surrogates is not illegal, but that it raises serious questions as to why people would do that.

"That to me smells of trafficking, child trafficking," Fell said. "What are the intentions of having that many children at home through these assisted reproductive technologies?"

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by Anonymousreply 5July 17, 2025 1:01 AM

This sounds like a John Waters movie

by Anonymousreply 6July 17, 2025 1:01 AM

Plot Twist: the couple also owned the surrogacy agency.

Total child trafficking scam.

by Anonymousreply 7July 17, 2025 1:03 AM

I don't understand this - so they hired all these surrogates (NOT CHEAP) to have these babies and then - confiscated them?

Did the surrogates not get paid and they kept the money? WTF do you do with toddlers not your own?

I'm sick to even think - were they going to use these kids for child porn or for prostitution?

Whatever the situation - it's going to be horrific, guaranteed.

by Anonymousreply 8July 17, 2025 1:46 AM

No, R8. Those kids were to be sold to Apple or some other tech company. If you recall, Lutnick told us that those little hands are perfect for factory work.

by Anonymousreply 9July 17, 2025 1:49 AM

Showoffs!

by Anonymousreply 10July 17, 2025 2:27 AM

Crazy Rich Asians

by Anonymousreply 11July 17, 2025 2:30 AM

Sick.

I’ve shared before, we’re a 2 dad family via surrogacy and it can be a profoundly happy story when it goes well. But I cannot think of many other “industries” that need and deserve hypervigilant regulation to the extent that adoption and surrogacy do — both of them.

Whatever was going on here, including the extreme child abuse, seems all kinds of evil.

by Anonymousreply 12July 17, 2025 2:34 AM

*Seventeen* of the children are under three years of age. The mind boggles at what they must have been doing to control the herd

by Anonymousreply 13July 17, 2025 3:29 AM

Many, many Daily Mail posters seemed to think that the couple created these kids for organ harvesting.

by Anonymousreply 14July 17, 2025 3:37 AM

This is like a puppy mill, only for humans.

by Anonymousreply 15July 17, 2025 3:38 AM

[quote] *Seventeen* of the children are under three years of age. The mind boggles at what they must have been doing to control the herd

What's weird is that those are ALL of their biological kids.

His sperm, her eggs.

This crazy story is definitely one that most people have never ever dreamed of.

It's mind boggling, to think of the kinds of scams that people can come up with in this modern age.

Just wait until the christian fundies hear about this story.

They're going to push to end ALL surrogacy.

by Anonymousreply 16July 17, 2025 3:40 AM

Tasteful Friends, I think we can all agree that the real crime here is that horrendous McMansion.

by Anonymousreply 17July 17, 2025 3:56 AM

Sum Ting Wong!

by Anonymousreply 18July 17, 2025 4:08 AM

Dollface thread.

by Anonymousreply 19July 17, 2025 4:51 AM

Child trafficking or organ harvesting

by Anonymousreply 20July 17, 2025 4:55 AM

China and India are organ harvesting hotspots @R14

by Anonymousreply 21July 17, 2025 4:57 AM

Anchor babies, the lot of them.

by Anonymousreply 22July 17, 2025 2:13 PM

But the problem with the organ-harvesting theory is that - the cost of surrogate kids can be very expensive. Tens of thousands of dollars.

I don't pretend to know the cost of black market organs, but it would seem to be comparable or less than the cost of surrogacy.

I think something else was being planned - and it's going to be horrible.

by Anonymousreply 23July 17, 2025 4:34 PM

Arcadia was a regular post-war middle-class suburb (and home to Santa Anita racetrack) but it recent hundreds of the mid-century housing stock has been taken over by Asians who replaced them with McMansions like the one in the OP.

by Anonymousreply 24July 17, 2025 6:49 PM

Well, that's one way to protest the Chinese1 child-rule, I suppose.

by Anonymousreply 25July 17, 2025 6:52 PM

Gestational surrogacy (making embryos and planting them in a surrogate who carries the fetus to term and gives birth to a baby whom she hands over to the intended parents) costs like $50K per infant.

The idea that all these children were created for future organ harvesting, doesn't make sense $$ wise. I think it was something sick and twisted, psychological, with the Asian parents. They duped more than a dozen well-intentioned surrogates into carrying a horde of siblings all close in age, and then they began to raise all these infants and toddlers and children in horrifically abusive environment -- and they did it because they wanted to.

Only other explanation I can think of, just as sad, is child trafficking -- selling their own children for slavery or sexual purposes.

by Anonymousreply 26July 17, 2025 6:58 PM

Maybe that crazy bitch, Mia Farrow, will adopt a couple of them.

by Anonymousreply 27July 17, 2025 7:01 PM

R26 - yeah, prostitution did occur to me - but again, not to be so crass about it money-wise, there's a massive sunken cost of having baby via surrogate, then RAISING IT and all the money involved with that.

You just wouldn't make a return on your money for many, many, many years - if at all.

17 kids in one house under the age of 3? What a nightmare that would be - but this is just too weird for fiction. Like you could NOT make this up - it would not be believable.

Something awful was going to happen - but I don't understand it. China has removed its 1 child policy some time ago - and they're both Chinese.

by Anonymousreply 28July 17, 2025 8:12 PM

[quote]Sum Ting Wong!

We almost made it to 20 posts in a thread about Asians without the obligatory 'Sum Ting Wong' reference. Damn you, R18.

by Anonymousreply 29July 17, 2025 8:21 PM

[quote] We almost made it to 20 posts in a thread about Asians without the obligatory 'Sum Ting Wong' reference. Damn you, R18.

Ho Lee Fuk!

by Anonymousreply 30July 17, 2025 8:23 PM

I wonder if this is an immigration scam. Have the surrogate baby in the US - baby is a US citizen, Chinese parents (or adoptive parents) then have an easier time to immigrate?

I don't know immigration law around this. But organ harvesting and prostitution sounds just not economically viable.

But to buy a kid with American citizenship - that may have some value?

by Anonymousreply 31July 17, 2025 8:34 PM

I still don't understand half of the story. I guess my most urgent questions would be: 1. On what grounds were the children removed. If both are the biological parents - were there specific allegations of neglect? Or was that merely assumed? (Except the initial case with the trauma by a nanny.)

2. What is the parents' motivation to get all these children? What was the financial gain if any?

by Anonymousreply 32July 17, 2025 8:35 PM

[quote] I wonder if this is an immigration scam. Have the surrogate baby in the US - baby is a US citizen, Chinese parents (or adoptive parents) then have an easier time to immigrate?

This is a good guess.

by Anonymousreply 33July 17, 2025 8:37 PM

It all sounds like they tried to do everything deeply under the radar, which means the children were probably not being taken in for pediatric care -- and maybe not even registered as US citizens, no social security numbers or anything. It all only came to authorities' attention when one of the abused infants had its head bashed in.

by Anonymousreply 34July 17, 2025 8:43 PM

The plan could have been to groom them into being household slaves when they were old enough to be productive.

by Anonymousreply 35July 17, 2025 9:26 PM
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