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"9 to 5" (1980)

Last week I recorded '9 to 5' on TCM, and last night I watched it again. I remember seeing in the theaters with my friends over Christmas vacation in high school (December 1980) and we all thought it was funny enough (I remember seeing 'Private Benjamin' during the same time, thinking it was the better movie and much funnier). I was 17 at the time.

In the 80s I remember watching it a few more times, as it was always on HBO. By then, I didn't think it was all that funny - just a few chuckles along the way. I don't think I've watched it since (in the past 40 years), so rewatched it last night. Again, it got some chuckles out of me, but not laughter. I'm not sure why this is considered one of the greatest comedies of all time (according to various lists).

Dolly Parton was the break-out star. First time acting, and she was a natural (should've had a better movie career than the crap she did after). Lily Tomlin was great (she was reaching her peak as a movie actress), and Jane Fonda was fine. Dabney Coleman was good enough, but to me he came across as 'the poor man's Burt Reynolds' (who was one of the top box office male stars by then).

But something was off for me. It seems like it tried to be funny, but just kept missing. It never really crossed the line to true hilarity (like PB did ). I can't put my finger on it. Maybe it needed more slapstick comedy ? (Again, I'm comparing it to PB).

What did you all think of it ?

by Anonymousreply 63July 17, 2025 7:34 PM

for me it was just the opposite. I watched it a few years ago, decades after I saw it the first time. I had forgotten how funny it is.

by Anonymousreply 1July 16, 2025 5:20 PM

I saw this movie with friends when it came out too. It was just one more in a long line of movie disappointments. I didn't think it was all that that funny. It was just way too over the top. And even 45 years ago, its premise seemed dated.

by Anonymousreply 2July 16, 2025 5:21 PM

It's a product of its time, but Lily, Jane, and Dolly had great chemistry. Yes, the movie stalls a bit in its third act, but the entire body snatching scenario is still hilarious. To this day, I laugh out loud when Dolly peeks out from behind the open car trunk and says, "Judy, could you come back here a second?"

by Anonymousreply 3July 16, 2025 5:29 PM

Snappy dialogue and the cast was excellent.

by Anonymousreply 4July 16, 2025 5:31 PM

R2 Exactly. I kept waiting for 'the funny' to happen, and it never did. It was comedy lite.

by Anonymousreply 5July 16, 2025 5:32 PM

"Let's be '9 to 5'"

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by Anonymousreply 6July 16, 2025 7:01 PM

[Quote] I'm not sure why this is considered one of the greatest comedies of all time (according to various lists).

What list are those OP? I'm not aware that this film or Private Benjamin are considered one of the greatest comedies of all time by anyone.

by Anonymousreply 7July 16, 2025 7:18 PM

I saw it when it first came out, too. I've never had the slightest desire to see it again. I'm sure I laughed a bit when I watched it but as others have said, it was just too over the top. I wasn't a big fan of Private Benjamin either but I have watched that one again since I first saw it when it came out.

by Anonymousreply 8July 16, 2025 7:19 PM

People who don't find "9 to 5" funny are dead inside.

by Anonymousreply 9July 16, 2025 7:20 PM

"I've killed the boss. You don't think I'm gonna got fired for a thing like that."

by Anonymousreply 10July 16, 2025 7:32 PM

9 to 5l is one of my all-time favorite movies. Seriously, you need to turn in your gay card if you don't like it.

Jennifer Aniston is reportedly eyeing to cast Ariana Grande, Zendaya & Sydney Sweeney for a ‘9 to 5’ remake.

Aniston is also set to star in the film as well as producing the remake.

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by Anonymousreply 11July 16, 2025 7:37 PM

"Oh my god, I'm a murderer."

"Violet, you're not a murderer."

"I'm a murderess."

by Anonymousreply 12July 16, 2025 7:40 PM

I'd say we're a pretty happy bunch.

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by Anonymousreply 13July 16, 2025 7:42 PM

BonJOUR, BONjour… BONJOUR!

by Anonymousreply 14July 16, 2025 7:43 PM

[quote] Jennifer Aniston is reportedly eyeing to cast Ariana Grande, Zendaya & Sydney Sweeney for a ‘9 to 5’ remake.

Let me guess: Sydney as Dolly, Zendaya as Lily and Ariana as Jane.

by Anonymousreply 15July 16, 2025 7:48 PM

Holy merde!

by Anonymousreply 16July 16, 2025 7:48 PM

Holy merde!

by Anonymousreply 17July 16, 2025 7:48 PM

What was Roz's job title? I can't remember. Was she the office manager?

by Anonymousreply 18July 16, 2025 7:49 PM

A lot of the acclaim was for the women in the workplace scenario, standing up to a sexist boss, female friendship etc. moreso than the comedy. Probably one of the first to take career women seriously and go beneath the “office slut”, etc stereotypes.

by Anonymousreply 19July 16, 2025 7:53 PM

"Thanks, Roz, I know just where to stick it."

by Anonymousreply 20July 16, 2025 7:55 PM

She was Franklin Hart’s Executive Assistant.

by Anonymousreply 21July 16, 2025 8:10 PM

Thanks r21. What was Dora Lee's job title?

by Anonymousreply 22July 16, 2025 8:13 PM

She was his secretary.

by Anonymousreply 23July 16, 2025 8:14 PM

It's a perfect movie. Better than Tootsie as an example of story structure

by Anonymousreply 24July 16, 2025 8:16 PM

9 to 5 after a while feels like an extended sitcom. The fantasies of the 3 after smoking pot are silly. Likewise Private Benjamin stops being fun after she moves to France.

by Anonymousreply 25July 16, 2025 9:06 PM

I love the theme song. Dolly did a good job capturing what the film was about. Shame it came out the same year as "Fame." The song deserved an Oscar though I am glad Fame one. It's iconic.

by Anonymousreply 26July 16, 2025 9:17 PM

Hey Vera, we got another stiff in the john

by Anonymousreply 27July 16, 2025 9:24 PM

I love when Dolly tries to smother Dabney in her tits.

by Anonymousreply 28July 16, 2025 10:10 PM

"That's right, I'm a doctor. What am I talking to you for? Piss off!"

by Anonymousreply 29July 16, 2025 10:21 PM

"Yes, I'm a doctor. What did you think I was, a beautician?"

by Anonymousreply 30July 16, 2025 10:29 PM

the fact that OP said they "recorded it off TCM" made me discount the entire thread

by Anonymousreply 31July 16, 2025 10:33 PM

"If I want to play S&S and M&M and all those other bondage games, or even smoke pot, that's my business!"

by Anonymousreply 32July 16, 2025 10:34 PM

I loved that movie so much as a kid. I probably saw it 200 times when it was on cable. It seemed like that played along with The Incredible Shrinking Woman (another one of my favorites) on a constant loop back then. I rarely watch a movie twice as an adult.

by Anonymousreply 33July 16, 2025 10:38 PM

I'm with you, OP. We're the same age. It's funny, but not all that. R3 is correct. The body snatching is quite funny.

There was a reason why I wanted to see the movie when it came out. I had figured out I was gay, and I had also discovered I like guys tied up and gagged. The scenes with Dabney Coleman all trussed up had me fixated. Good one, though OP...he was a Poor Man's Burt Reynolds.

Coleman was good in "Buffalo Bill" a few years later.

by Anonymousreply 34July 16, 2025 10:40 PM

R7 From IMDB Trivia:

"This picture ranks seventy-fourth on the American Film Institute's list of "America's 100 Funniest Movies." When released in the United States of America and Canada, it was in the top three movies."

"The movie became a blockbuster and a cult hit as well, and is now known as one of the funniest movies ever made."

"One of the most popular sub-genres in Hollywood is the workplace comedy. Colin Higgins's 9 to 5 (1980) is considered one of the absolute best and is still highly regarded today as a landmark feminist film."

by Anonymousreply 35July 16, 2025 10:42 PM

Every time I have some copy machine malfunction, I picture the scene with Jane Fonda. And the hat

by Anonymousreply 36July 16, 2025 10:47 PM

Fonda was the one who wanted this film made, and handpicked Tomlin and Parton for their respective roles (even though Parton never acted in anything before). She just knew Parton would be perfect (and she was).

She had a back-up plan, though. If Tomlin said no, she had Carol Burnett to take the role as Violet. And if Parton said no, she had Ann Margaret lined up to play Doralee. I think those two would've been just as funny.

by Anonymousreply 37July 16, 2025 10:48 PM

R31 Sure, Jan.

by Anonymousreply 38July 16, 2025 10:58 PM

R35 For a top 100 comedy it has an unimpressive 58 Metascore and a 69% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Time Out London

Despite an excellent and promising cast, this Hollywood attempt at a mainstream feminist comedy is flabby and bland...Complacent, and even worse, not very funny, despite the efforts of the ever-excellent Tomlin.

The New York Times Vincent Canby

The three actresses make an attractive team, but neither the screenplay, by Colin Higgins and Patricia Resnick, nor the director, Mr. Higgins, uses them very effectively. It's clearly a movie that began as someone's bright idea, which then went into production before anyone had time to give it a well-defined personality.

Washington Post

For all the trouble taken, Nine to Five comes out as a very ordinary situation comedy about three bubble heads seeking revenge on a boss who is a big old meanie. The justice of the cause, the abilities of the actresses, the intrinsic interest of the scene -- these are all lost in the frantic efforts to cram in satire, social commentary, slapstick and sexual oppression. There is such a thing as working too hard. [19 Dec 1980, p.19]

by Anonymousreply 39July 16, 2025 11:00 PM

I don't know R37. Without Dolly, I'm not sure how well that film would've done. There'd likely be a different theme song and movie title too.

by Anonymousreply 40July 16, 2025 11:01 PM

The movie title was taken from an organization of working office women, founded in Boston in the mid-70s, to bring changes to the office environment (which is what the movie is loosely based on). After the movie, there were franchises of the organization popping up in major cities (including mine). After a few years, most of them started shutting down as the workplace culture started changing.

by Anonymousreply 41July 16, 2025 11:11 PM

Jane said that Dolly would come to the set with her wig and makeup on at 5 or 6 in the morning. Nobody ever saw her without a wig and makeup.

by Anonymousreply 42July 16, 2025 11:12 PM

Jane brought it to TV as well, with Rita Moreno, Jane Curtin’s cousin and Dollys sister starring. Phoebe snow sang the song and Jane appeared in one episode playing an efficiency manager.

by Anonymousreply 43July 16, 2025 11:15 PM

Also, being unfamiliar with movie production, Dolly said she memorized the entire script and thought it would be filmed in sequential order, from beginning to end. She had no idea different sequences were shot at different times and was surprised to find out the first scene she would be filming would be one of the movie's final scenes.

by Anonymousreply 44July 16, 2025 11:15 PM

Very enjoyable movie.

by Anonymousreply 45July 16, 2025 11:19 PM

R44 Yes, and Fonda had to keep reminding her to 'watch what she ate' (Parton was getting bigger during the shooting) because she would have to fit back into some earlier costumes (dresses) later on in the schedule for re-shoots, etc. Parton didn't realize that (and admitted her weight fluctuated throughout the scenes).

by Anonymousreply 46July 16, 2025 11:21 PM

Colin Higgins was my favorite director of that era with 9 to 5 and Foul Play. He also wrote the screenplay for Harold and Maude.

by Anonymousreply 47July 17, 2025 12:07 AM

It is one of my comfort movies and one of the few that I own a copy.

by Anonymousreply 48July 17, 2025 12:08 AM

Wow, the responses on this thread are surprising to me.

I’ve always considered 9 to 5 to be a timeless comedy.

As another poster stated, it’s also a comforting piece of nostalgia for those of a certain age.

by Anonymousreply 49July 17, 2025 1:13 AM

I’ve loved this movie since I was a kid. The last time I rewatched it a few years ago, I did find parts of it a bit creaky but overall still a lot of fun.

by Anonymousreply 50July 17, 2025 3:26 AM

Looks just like skinny and sweet, except for the little skull and crossbones

by Anonymousreply 51July 17, 2025 3:34 AM

R47 I also loved "Foul Play," which he directed two years before "Nine to Five."

"Kojak! Bang bang!"

by Anonymousreply 52July 17, 2025 10:22 AM

If Carol Burnett had taken the role of Violet, I wonder if they would have kept the 'pot scene' and references in the movie ? At the time, she was starting to deal with her daughter Carrie, and the drug problem she was just starting with (which would get out of hand a few years after).

by Anonymousreply 53July 17, 2025 11:29 AM

In Roger Ebert's review, he raved about Dolly (and yes, I know, he loved big tits.). He said when you watch her, she is always paying attention to what's happening around her, even if she's not the center of attention.

I think about that a lot when I'm watching a movie and get bored. Is such-and-such actor really playing attention or just calculating his paycheck?

Tom Cruise, for example, only looks engaged when he's the focus

by Anonymousreply 54July 17, 2025 12:01 PM

Jane Fonda in this looked just like Dustin Hoffman as Dorothy in Tootsie. As a 8 year old I thought the resemblance between the two was uncanny.

by Anonymousreply 55July 17, 2025 12:02 PM

In pre-production Lucy was Jane Fonda's first pick for Violet, Lucy was keen on the idea but at some point between pre and production, she got cold feet.

by Anonymousreply 56July 17, 2025 12:04 PM

Lucy would only play Violet if Gale Gordon played Mr. Hart.

by Anonymousreply 57July 17, 2025 12:07 PM

I actually could see Bea Arthur as 'Roz', the long-time office manager who kept 'the girls' in line. Bea was in her late 50s at the time - it could've worked.

by Anonymousreply 58July 17, 2025 12:10 PM

Elizabeth Wilson was perfect as Roz.

by Anonymousreply 59July 17, 2025 12:13 PM

Both Bea and Betty White both looked to be in their late 70s for 50 years.

by Anonymousreply 60July 17, 2025 2:24 PM

[quote]Colin Higgins was my favorite director of that era with 9 to 5 and Foul Play. He also wrote the screenplay for Harold and Maude.

He also wrote Silver Streak which is overlong but has a lot of funny moments. And it features Valerie Curtin who would play Judy Bernley in the sitcom version of 9 to 5

by Anonymousreply 61July 17, 2025 4:52 PM

I wonder if this scene from Foul Play could ever be done today

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by Anonymousreply 62July 17, 2025 7:28 PM

I feel like Datalounge is the sort of workplace where everyone is either Roz or Margaret Foster.

by Anonymousreply 63July 17, 2025 7:34 PM
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