Barbra and Cher

To Babs’ credit, the “Streisand Effect” is being used by pundits this week to describe the ongoing conspiracy.

Streisand has had a beef with Cher going back decades.

Cher’s career is still going strong and she’s relevant with every generation today thanks to social media and Zoomers kissing her ass and quoting her. Babs’s fanbase is long dead. She was never hip. Barbra has no sense of humor and is well-known to be abusive to everyone around her.

The Globe is pure fiction.

Who gives a fuck but you, OP?

Chastity and Jason had playdates together. They had to have known each other.

Cher has quoted Barbra asking her "Why do you still do all this?". They're very different women.

Supposedly they got together once at Barbra's compound to bond over caviar and champagne, but Cher told Babs the champagne was burnt and that was of course unforgivable.

? Relevant. She's been a joke for decades.

I doubt that Babs and Cher share their observations of "The Bold & the Beautiful" or borrow sugar from each other like ordinary neighbors of the past.

I suspect it was a scissoring one-off that one of them thought would lead to something more and the other one married James Brolin instead...

Because Barbra pushed Sonny into that tree, Rose.

Because Cher heard Babs say behind her back, "The Mirror has two faces, but Cher has fifteen. A number she also thinks is the perfect age for a boyfriend."

Babs wishes she had Cher’s legacy. South Park destroyed her and turned her into a punching bag.

Cher was once quoted as saying that Barbra can’t say fuck you with her face, but can say it with her voice.

She was pissed that Barbra did A Star, and asked to a reporter what the fuck Babs knew about rock and roll.

[quote] Cher’s career is still going strong and she’s relevant with every generation today

Hardly, R3.

Oh, please, R12. South Park destroyed her? And yet she had record-setting concerts well after that South Park episode. You're ridiculous.

Some of the posts and replies on this thread and elsewhere give me pause. They have odd syntax or peculiar grammatical errors. My theories are that somebody is using AI and bots to create and post to the Datalounge. Or second theory, is that some troll is deliberately mangling their syntax in order to hide.

You keep on it, Sherlock aka R16

"Because Barbra pushed Sonny into that tree, Rose."

What thread can't go without a Golden Girls reference?

They were pretty chummy in the 60s, especially when their children had gone to the same school together (along with Dionne Warwick's two sons, which Warwick had talked about in the past). I wouldn't say the three of them were besties, but pretty close and bonded with their kids. They used to carpool their kids to school (at least Warwick and Cher did, not sure if Barbra ever got behind the wheel or had a driver for the kids).

From the way Warwick described it, by the mid-70s she left California and moved East to NY / CT. She drifted away from them. Cher and Barbra were still in LA, but had their dust-up when Barbra got "ASIB" in 1975. But as time went on, Cher and Barbra reconnected, and I believe Cher and Warwick did as well (when Warwick had her 80s comeback with Arista).

They were always stealing each others' boyfriends.

I would guess Cher has more money given that she still tours and is favored by millennials and even some gen z, largely due to her internet presence. Babs isn’t nearly as well-known among younger generations.

What happened to Cher’s face?

Lucy was going to join them in a three-way, and each thought the other soured the date.

Actually, Gary talked Lucy out of it, concerned for her hip (and his security).

She's 79 dear.

[quote] What happened to Cher’s face?

The same thing that happened to Barbra's: massive plastic surgery, fillers, and Botox.

Cher now has two bottom lips.

I can't believe her son Elijah Blue turned 49 last week. I remember when she had her baby boy - it was all over the news and magazines that week.

Cher was literally at her home waiting for the Star is Born contract to arrive so she could sign it. After an hour of waiting, she called up the producers to ask what the holdup was. They broke the news to her that Barbra Streisand had changed her mind at the last minute and wanted to do the movie. Cher was stunned and heartbroken. I'm sure a few vases were thrown against the wall.

R27 Was Cher literally sitting at home waiting for the script, or just sitting at home waiting for the script ? There's a big difference there which can solve a big mystery which has been haunting us for 50 years.

Was Cher really going star in "A Star Is Born" when Barbra decided to do it?

Never heard that before.

R29 Cher was considered for the part, along with Sonny, a few years prior BEFORE their 1974 divorce. Once the divorce went through, the studio moved on from them (rightly so) and started talking with Streisand and her new beau, Jon Peters. For some reason, Cher kept pushing for the part (ignoring the fact that WB was not interested in her for some time) and kept telling the press she had the role, and was 'waiting' for the contract to be delivered to her door. While she was waiting impatiently, Streisand was signing the contract. Cher claimed (back then) she found out the news from her agent and the next day she read it in 'Variety'.

Interestingly, Cher barely mentions this at all in her memoir. She glazed over the whole ASIB deal.

Sonny as John Norman Howard? He'd probably insist on wearing full clown make-up during the bathtub scene, and at the end of the credits it would read, "Mr. Bono's polyester from... his own closet."

R31 Don't forget, the original idea was Carly Simon and James Taylor (they said no). They then turned to Sonny & Cher. They really wanted a married couple as the stars in the beginning.

Cher and Josh Brolin were on Graham Norton where Josh asked Cher if she had met his stepmom. There was an awkward moment and Cher said a blunt "uh huh" or yes" I don't remember. It was shade.

Cher refused to get the tight perm required to play Esther Hoffman Howard, so they were forced to go with Barbra instead.

I'm still figuring out how the kids can be all the letters. It's biologically impossible.

Cher wasn't doing 'rock' in the 70s, either. She was doing middle of the road-type songs, then pop/disco ditties. And no one would consider her bankable for a Major Motion Picture in 1975.

Cher is a working Diva.

Because they were competing for our love.

Cher did this with Kris instead.