The Gilded Age Season 3 Viewing Thread: Part 2

That episode moved like molasses.

So disappointing after last week's good episode.

The only thing fun was more Ada vs Agnes sniping. And, Alarm Clock Jack. And, some gorgeous costumes.

And, I really, really do not need to see ANY more plotlines involving the Russell servants.

Just. Do. Not. Give. A. Fuck.

Some old queen on the Gilded Age Facebook group proposed that Anderson Cooper have a role in the upcoming episode. When virtually no one wanted that, he started interrogating them and called them stupid.

I just know he’s a member here.

In some ways the trailers were better than the episode. The wedding happened and the only interesting points were the nasty sisters of Bertha and the Duke.

Aunt Monica did Gladys no favors with her new sister-in-law by putting in her head that Gladys might kick her out.

Now that alarm clock Jack has almost as much money as Aunt Ada, he’s a good match for Marian monetarily if in no other way.

If my sister invited me to her daughter’s big wedding at the last minute, I’m afraid I should find myself otherwise engaged.

Is Larry really a cad?

If Larry is a cad, they’ve given us no hint.

I was really expecting to see Aunt Monica entering the church in Bertha's dress with big side panels of a contrasting fabric. Otherwise, how the hell would she fit into one of Bertha's castaways?

Also, half expecting to hear a chorus of nuns singing "How do you solve a problem like Gladys?" as she marched down the aisle.

Dreadfully written episode considering all the stakes.

Of course, the logical path now for AC Jack would be to open his own shop/lab and invent other things. And with his money and success and good looks he'd have no trouble acquire a wife and new friends. I don't see why we should be worried about him even if he only gets half of the $600,000, a huge sum in the 1880s.

That scene between the chef and the housekeeper was beyond lame and unnecessary. Sudden high drama from two minor characters we've never been lead to care about.

The Russell’s chef is the most unconvincing character on the show. He barely touches the food, never talks about it, and now only uses his giant mouth to seduce the tiny housekeeper. They both sound too monotonous as well, like they don’t believe the lines they’re speaking.

Can you blame them, r11? I wonder that about most of the actors in the show.

Well, it's a pay check and you get to hang around with each other.

I don't know ElderLez/r4.

He was my footman, and now he's my husband! Isn't that fun!!

No, it's kind of weird and annoying, actually. Honestly, we don't know how to treat you, so I think we'll just avoid you.

The trailer suggests that Bertha gives Oscar a large sum of money to invest. You in danger big Bertha.

Monetarily only for sure R13!

I've seen Morgan Spector on stage, but he never looked as good as he does in GA.

I’d like to see his dick in my mouth.

Farmiga's daughter is even homelier than she is.

They’re actually sisters.

Gladys is 30. Divorced. In real life.

This all takes place in the 1880's? So was there a financial crisis with lots of bank failures?

There were frequent financial panics. That’s why they invented the Federal Reserve in 1913

Jack's share was $300,000 in the 1880s.

In 2025 that amount would be close to $10 million dollars.

Panic of 1893

It Trump told us that era was the greatest economic period in our history, until he came along. Tariffs and wealth for everyone!

I’d loved to meet any of his h.s. teachers…

[QUOTE] Farmiga's daughter is even homelier than she is.

Taissa Farmiga has a daughter?

Hector is much better-looking than Gladys, something I’d like at least someone to mention on the show. She’s in a looks-discordant relationship and is now going to be dicked down by someone who is out of her league, looks-wise. Farmiga is not an attractive woman (unlike her older sister who has an inherent sexiness).

The poster assumed Taissa was actress Vera Famiga’s daughter, but they are sisters with a 20+ year age difference.

Has it ever been explained to us what was so special about AC Jack's clock patent to be deserving of $600,000?

friction, pallets, something about rollers.

Oh honestly who cares r28. We're in the money!

R27 $

So, is that it for Merritt Wever's Aunt Monica? Finally a fun character (even without ANY background buildup) and I believe she's done.

Hopefully, r31, but honestly, relatives have a habit of lingering, like a bad stain.

I want some picture of Bertha’s pre-Russell life from Monica. I want Monica to drop at least a little tea.

I thought it would be interesting to insert pieces of Consuelo Vanderbilt's real-life description of her impending marriage to the Duke of Marlborough here. Even though they both were in love with others, the marriage was by then a fait accompli and his proposal took place in Newport.

"It was in the comparative quiet of an evening at home that Marlborough proposed to me in the Gothic Room, whose atmosphere was so propitious to sacrifice. There was no need for sentiment. I was content with his pious hope that he would make me a good husband and ran up to my mother with word of our engagement. There was no time for thought or for regrets. The next day the news was out, and a few days later Marlborough departed to see something of a country he even then announced he would never revisit. There was in his sarcastic comments on all things American an arrogance that inclined me to view his decision with approval. When I broke the news of our engagement to my brothers, Harold observed, "he is only marrying you for your money," and with this last slap to my pride I burst into tears. It was obvious they would have preferred me to marry a compatriot, but unable to speak of the emotional turmoil I had so recently experienced I could not enlighten them.

"Ordering my trousseau, always an exciting event in a girl's life, proved of slight interest since I had very little to say about it, my mother not troubling to consult the taste she claimed I did not possess. The marriage settlements gave rise to considerable discussion. An English solicitor had crossed the seas with the declared intention of "profiting the illustrious family" he had been engaged to serve devoted a natural talent to that end. Finally the settlements were apportioned in equal shares at my request.

"As the wedding approached there came presents My mother had forbidden me to receive any gifts from my Vanderbilt relatives and I felt hurt and pained when I was made to return them without excuse or thanks. My grandmother was the only Vanderbilt whom I was allowed to visit, and the only one invited to my wedding, but she naturally refused to come to the ceremony from which her entire family was excluded.

"I sent the morning of my wedding day in tears and alone; no one came near me. A footman had been posted at the door of my apartment and not even my governess was admitted. Like an automaton I donned the lovely lingerie with its real lace and the white silk stockings and shoes. My maid helped me into the beautiful dress, its tiers of Brussels lace cascading over white satin. A bouquet of orchids that was to come from [the Duke's estate] Blenheim did not arrive in time. I felt cold and numb as I went down to meet my father and the bridesmaids who were waiting for me. My mother had decreed that my father should accompany me to the church to give me away. After that he was to disappear [as her parents were now divorced]. We were twenty minutes late, for my eyes, swollen with the tears I had wept required copious sponging before I could face the curious stares that always greet a bride.

"As I followed my lovely bridesmaids I remembered to press my father's arm gently to slow his step. Marlborough, with the best man, his cousin Ivor Guest, was waiting for us. The usual hymns glorifying perfect love were sung and, when I glanced at my husband shyly I saw that his eyes were fixed in space. "

[quote] ...homelier...

Taissa with modern-day hair and makeup is a nice enough looking woman.

If you say so, R35.

Stop picking on Taissa!

She's not and never been presented on the show has being a world-class beauty.

They wanted Twink Clock’s patent because he invented the alarm clock and it doesn’t require any oil to work.

I hope Jack keeps Oscar away from his money.

I think Taissa is very pretty in an unconventional way. She's unique.

Can you imagine two vultures getting together like Mrs. Fish and Mrs. Winterton? OMG.

I'm definitely upset with Bertha. Disliking her more and more. But she did say one true thing which makes her driving ambitions seem less superficial and driven by vanity. She said there was a direct connection between Social status and Business interests. She was right. George knew it too. However. If my finances were as thin as George's seem to be in this gamble he is taking with the railroad, and then he is on the the front pages for the opulent wedding of his daughter to the Duke, I would not loan him a cent if I was a bank. Nor would I as an investor want to give him money as he squanders it away on his/his wife's extravagant tastes.

R1 I agree. Episode 3 was really good, probably the best of the season. Episode 4... not so much.

R10 and R11 I agree. What was the point of that scene? Two minor characters I don't really care about.

If this show doesn't win the emmy for costume design then I don't know what.

I cannot believe they cut from the sad wedding to the ship. BAH! So many opportunities for fresh interactions at the reception/party. Gladys freezing out Bertha. Larry taking note. Auntie M stirring it up. Bertha forcing her son on an heiress while Brooke watches. Mrs. Fish and Nathan Lane's character gossiping. Oscar picking a waiter. So many lost opportunities.

Who is Brooke, R45?

Brooke Astor—duh

Julian basically stole the whole thing from Consuelo. On more injury for the poor thing.

We were also told that previous alarm clocks were unreliable.

[quote] Nor would I as an investor want to give him money as he squanders it away on his/his wife's extravagant tastes.

You don’t loan money to Russell personally. You invest it in a business enterprise which has its own finances . It is separate from his personal assets, even if he controls it or owns it.

R50 I would be concerned that his extravagant lifestyle put him in debt. If he has to go into debt, get a loan, to finance his lifestyle, the debt load would make him a bad business risk. But what do I know.

[QUOTE] Brooke Astor—duh

Why would Brooke Astor — someone who wasn’t born until 1902, mind you — be at a wedding reception taking place in 1883?

Don’t come for me, bitch.

Again: who is “Brooke”?

I once met Consuelo Vanderbilt, and yes, I may have made a few false assumptions and even a few faux pas.

But come on, Consuelo is a boy's name, isn't it?

Oooh! A love a good cat fight.

Caroline! Come here. You won’t want to miss this!

Alva had a best friend, a woman named Consuelo and she named her daughter after her best friend. Alva was Southern. The wedding invite HBO pictured was for 1884.

Didn't Brooke inherit a ton of railroad certificates when her dad died? That could be a pot point in her new Russell relations.

The character’s name is Marian Brook. Not “Brooke.”

She WILL BE. Brooke Astor.

Which Astor was on the Titanic? Was it Agnes's friend Lina's invisible hubby?

Nevermind. I just learned that John Jacob Astor IV who died on the Titanic, was the son of the Mrs. Astor in Gilded Age.

Sad episode, really.

The wedding dress was beautiful, if a little overwrought.

Some of the flowers were a bit much. But they had to fill her out in some way, I suppose. She has no womanly body.

I presume everybody will change for the reception?

Happy for Jack. That poor woman, nutty husband and all.

The Duke behaved well towards Gladys.

Alva Vanderbilt has the face of a junkyard bulldog

Alva Vanderbilt or J. Edgar Hoover?

[QUOTE] I presume everybody will change for the reception?

There isn’t going to be a wedding reception portrayed on the show. We already saw Gladys and Hector on their wedding night at the end of last night’s episode.

People, try to remember that this is fiction, based VERY loosely on historical characters.

Pics please r65.

Hey, it's the 1880s. There ain't a lot of options for "candids"!

But did the wedding have a cash bar?

I think they probably blew the budget on the flowers and such for the wedding and couldn’t afford to also show us an over the top reception location. Shame, that. I would have liked to have seen more of Monica.

I knew the Duke wasn't royal ("noble, not royal" per Bertha).

Me, from the other thread, in response to a poster who clearly doesn't understand the difference.

Thank you Bertha for clarifying that point.

The view from the cabin looked quite chintzy as well.

It's sweet that people are worried about Jack losing his money. Things haven't changed much for the working class in this country (most Americans are never going to be a millionaire).

[quote]The Russell’s chef is the most unconvincing character on the show. He barely touches the food, never talks about it...

He's no Mrs. Patmore, that's for damn sure !

But there is something rather attractive about him.

Yes, R65. I realized that after I had written my post about it.

So then I didn’t completely like the church outfit Bertha was wearing. She has worn better for afternoon tea!

I did love Agnes’ purple number. Just stunning.

It was a mistake not to show the wedding reception or at least make the entire wedding an entire episode.

R75 That would have been way too costly for the production. They would have blown the whole budget for the rest of the season.

I read somewhere that 1,000 people were invited to the church. So if there was any kind of reception I doubt it would include all 1,000. I also think that since this happened in the afternoon, there was probably a late breakfast served for the wedding party and an intimate group of guests before the ceremony. In any case I think a a champagne toast was all anyone could expect. After all. They're not Italians.

According to Google:

Based on historical records and descriptions, a society wedding feast in 1884 could have included: Cold Meats: Roast game, poultry, ham, tongues, potted meats. Seafood: Lobster salads, chicken and fish à la Mayonnaise, oysters or clams depending on the season. Pastries and Puddings: Italian creams, various cold sweets, cakes, and iced desserts like sherbet or ice cream. Savories: Game pies, savory jellies. Drinks: Tea, coffee, and wines were common.

I just cannot see the Russells attempting to feed 1,000 people so maybe they had a separate list for the reception.

Meh, just a few cold cuts, a little bread, a buffet, it's all doable. At least back in Albany. Oh well.

Oh, and I did suggest a cash bar to defray expenses, but my lord, the looks from Bertha and the Duke's sister, well, I wouldn't want to see that again, let me tell you.

It was also odd that having no plans to show a reception, they had the scene with the chef tending to all of the food he had prepared.

Was $600,000 realistic in that age? It seemed like an astronomical number for a patent in 1893.

fish à la Mayonnaise? Barf

The episode could have been much better---a full reception, with lots of gossip and spectacle. They could have saved Gladys' deflowering for another episode.

Sometimes it's the budget. If they'd had a scene with a full blown reception with hundreds of extras milling around plus cast members with speaking parts, plus the sets, it would have cost a fortune. They had to make a choice. . I suspect there will be other lavish scenes in future episodes. They had their big scene at the church. It was very dramatic. Mrs Fish and the former Lady's maid showed their propensity for pettiness and gossip and we saw the cracks in Mrs. Astor's facade. There would have been just more of the same. So the reception was redundant.

Nice photoshoot

Jacobson looks strikingly like her mom in some of those photos.

Everybody looks great. Don’t like what Denée is wearing, tho.

Everything you want to know about shooting this episode

“You can have the reception scenes, or the subtle, nuanced Andrea Martin. Decide..”

Why does Oscar never have anything to do?

I think Gladys was very good in the scenes with the duke. She claims she is sad because she wants to marry for love, yet every time Bertha reminds her what she will get from this marriage, she smiles. It's obvious she actually wants this deep inside.

The actress is quoted as playing Gladys as if she always knew that in the end her duty would call—the intransigence was for effect.

[quote] Two minor characters I don't really care about.

Fellows did this with Anna and Bates on Downton Abbey. No one I knew GAF about these dull characters but Fellows just kept putting their drama front and centre.

Anna and Bates were used often and sometimes unwisely. But I have to say that I will never forget Anna’s rape scene and how inevitable and scary it was for her and the audience. It something that has been seared into my memory? Particularly when the man slaps her before raping her.

R83 see R76

Except Anna and Bates were well-established within the first few episodes as characters with personalities and back stories. Not so the fat chef and mousey housekeeper.

In Downton, Anna and Bates were my least favorite storyline, although I didn't mind Anna on her own. But Julian Fellowes managed to really flesh out the downstairs staff. Mrs. Hughes and Carson. Tom Barrow. O'Brien, and her bar of soap, and the seamstress who rescued the ridiculously sad Mr. Molesley. Dr. Carson may have been a second tier character but we knew him. And Mrs. Patmore and Daisy. Not to mention the scandalous footman Tom Barrow had a crush on. And I loved the lady's maid and butler who worked in the Dower House.

How ironic that the wedding was actually filmed in Albany.

The wedding was beautifully lit. I really enjoyed observing all the older costumes that are no longer relevant today, like white bridesmaids dresses, and only greenery along the aisle. Larry's weeding attire made him look like a dweeb.

Wever gave the Coonster a run for her money. You can't but love her, she has such a delightful wholesome presence.

Clock Twink saying he wanted to continue working as a servant was such a wish fulfilment moment from Fellows, implying all servants in actuality really do enjoy working for their masters. I also hated how Larry took half of the buyout. Fucking rich people, man.

I love Bertha's affected way of saying "romance" the way that's reserved for "Romance languages" today, with emphasis on the second syllable. I did not love her telling the servants to help out whenever they can. Give them a raise or hire more people, lady.

The gorgeous painting behind Peggy during her speech was Fitz Henry Lane, surely? Those soothing soft pastels made me swoon.

Even though it was blurry, I loved the reactions to Gladys' sad face when she was walking down the aisle. Bertha was the only one smiling.

This might have been posted already, but Ahlers will be acting opposite Meloni soon.

r97 That was so good. I also loved the fade-out on Gladys' face at the end, so sad.

RO-mance is perfectly acceptable in the languages context.

That Morgan is not straight, is he? He's so hot in these promotional photos in modern high fashion, but no 100% straight man poses like that. And it doesn't quite cross into Walton Goggins parody territory, but almost.

So true r94. It's like Uncle Julian's ability to deal with servant stories completely evaporated when he crossed the Atlantic. And there's so much potential there, precisely because of the difference between England and America. In Britain, certainly then, you're just born into a class and you deal with it. America has this whole other level of being technically all equal (ha, but still that's the dream) and you're supposed to be upwardly mobile and all that. It creates these obvious tensions.

I love Alarm Clock Jack, but the truth is he'd work just as well as a clerk in Mr. Russell's office, who finally gets to show he's something more.

I'll take Ginger any day over some of Ru's other pets, like Mistress, Kandy, Jorgeous and Gottmik

R103 Jesus Bertha, give it a rest!

You go gurl!

Rashad is bringing alot to the show this season and I can't wait to see Leslie Uggams.

Rashad is bring high cunt and I’m totally here for it. I love the AA storyline this season. It’s surprisingly nuanced.

r101 He's straight, he just knows he's hot, that's why he poses that way. I've read on Reddit once he was a notorious pussy hound in college, his dorm room pretty much had a revolving door for the fraus.

The J. P. Morgan actor made me laugh chewing the scenery in Russell's office. "This is developing into a full grown PANIC! I'm spiting all over your office once per sentence for emphasis! Wake UP man! Can't you contrast my mood from my single previous scene on the show!? This is SERIOUS BUSINESS STUFF! MONEY PROBLEMS!" lol

Are we absolutely certain that Taissa Farmiga is Vera Farmiga’s sister?

^spitting

R110, Taissa is her daughter AND her sister…

I thought Farmigas are of Ukrainian, not Appalachian descent, R112.

Ask your doctor if Farmiga is right for you.

R113 Sigh, typical "new" DL poster.

R113 - Mrs Fish

Farmiga was raised Pentacostal. Her parents converted from Eastern Orthodox. She probably knows a lot about crazy.

If she only knew what to do with it...

Those of you enjoying the new AA storylines - you don't feel it's compromised by the ridiculous interchangeable candy-colored dresses and hats the characters are constantly wearing? I'm not saying they need to be in grey rags, I get that they're wealthy and of an upwardly mobile class, but a little reality there would be welcome.

This is an example of why The Gilded Age has never won any Emmys for Costume Design.

And if they dressed them in more somber, dull, subdued, sober, austere, really, pick an adjective, clothes we would be complaining that they weren’t dressed as magnificently as the white people, with their colors and fabulous silks and patterns.

Why wouldn’t they dress wonderfully? They certainly had the means to do it. The clothiers for the community, presumably, had access to the same patterns and textiles that others had. 🤷🏻‍♀️

R119, you seem like a stealth…something. Nice attempt to start something. We don’t take that kind of bait on these threads. I’m sure you’re more successful in other threads.

It may interest you to know that many top dressmakers of the day were African American. Mary Todd Lincoln's is one of the notables. in the late 1860's she continued to dress society matrons. And Jackie Kennedy's wedding dress was designed and made by a well established African American designer. So the women who are dressing the AA high society ladies are also probably dressing some of the Park Avenue crowd. A well known "secret." One of the producers of Gilded Age is an African Professor of African American History based at Emory University in Atlanta. If you watch the after show comments you will see her.

R88, I think Gladys smiles because she’s spent her whole life mirroring her mother. Her only purpose is to be what Bertha wants her to be. Her own father won’t stand up for her. When she struggles to tell her new husband that she’s frightened about sex and won’t mind putting it off for the night, he doesn’t pay any attention because no one ever pays attention to what she says.

Well, Gladys has that huge chunk of cash she controls, Lady Sarah Cuntchill and the Dewk have to be nice to Glad. If Glad gives birth to some sons, the Dewk and his cold fish sister are fucked. Pity Lady Sarah Cuntchill couldn't look for her own rich geezer, like Bertha's maid.

Actually, I was a little unclear on that r124. So did the Duke get a big chunk of money for marrying her, but also she gets a lot on top of that, so that she isn't completely at his mercy? Wasn't sure what exactly happened in that meeting.

It’s called a dowry. 🥺

yes, thank you r126, what exactly was the dowry arrangement?

The bride’s family pays the groom a sum.

Anyone know what Mr. Russell decided to give to the Duke and Gladys? Anyone have an idea of the specifics? What was the arrangement?

[quote] Hector is much better-looking than Gladys, something I’d like at least someone to mention on the show. She’s in a looks-discordant relationship and is now going to be dicked down by someone who is out of her league, looks-wise.

Honey, this isn't Fire Island, or your high school.

Try to grow up a little.

[quote] So did the Duke get a big chunk of money for marrying her, but also she gets a lot on top of that, so that she isn't completely at his mercy? Wasn't sure what exactly happened in that meeting.

The Duke received a large dowry from George. They've not said how much it is on the show, but the real life inspiration for the marriage on the show was the wedding of Consuelo Vanderbilt to the Duke of Marlborough in 1895. In that marriage, the Duke was given a dowry from William K. Vanderbilt of $2.5 million, which in today's dollars would be the equivalent of nearly $100 million.

George had given Gladys quite a lot of money on top of that for her own. the Duke of Buckingham wanted the money for himself, but Bertha told him they would share the money--what's Gladys's is the Duke's, in a theoretically happy marriage. However, in actuality the Uk passed the Married Women's Property Act in 1882 (before the wedding on the show takes place), so Gladys actually owns that money given to her by her father outright. if she and the Duke divorce, it is hers. But George would never get the dowry back.,

thanks r131.

Panic over money never gets old, never fails to entertain. Gotta have leverage over others. We're such a basic ass species.

I fear that the writers will have Jack Clock Twink somehow lose his money through some shady investments or gambling it all away. I guess he could invent more.

Well, hopefully he's not quite that ridiculously stupid r134.

[QUOTE] Honey, this isn't Fire Island, or your high school. Try to grow up a little.

Your trollina is showing dear. You type uggo.

Carrie Coon scored an Emmy nomination for White Lotus.

I think she’ll win, R137. Her monologue in the season finale was exquisite.

And once again The Gilded Age isn't even nominated for Best Costume Design, r120, r121, r122.

I think the white women are dressed ridiculously, too. It's fine to take liberties with the period but this designer is way out of control.

Nope—not even close.

Katherine LaNasa

Alarm clock Jack needs to watch himself around Oscar. Oscar will be drawn to him....

Believe it or not, IRL Oscar is married to the actress who plays the Duke's sister. And they have 3 kids!!!

Okay, I can't say I'm totally shocked r142. But I have to ask, are there any actual gay actors on this very gay, gay, gay show, or as usual is it all straight people but the occasional storyline?

Doug Sills is way gay

[quote] But I have to ask, are there any actual gay actors on this very gay, gay, gay show, or as usual is it all straight people but the occasional storyline?

Not a one.

So a couple of old queens and lesbos. Well, okay, I guess that's what we get.

Well, so be it. But you know what, can we at least delve a little more into the actual gay relationship between Oscar and John Adams? And the gay world that did in fact exist in New York, even in the 1880s.

I am way more worried about Larry than I am about Oscar. Oscar needs to make good. He is digging himself out of a catastrophe. Larry is feeling very pleased with himself for having used Jack to grab $300,000 . I know Larry was able to open doors and put Jack's invention in front of potential investors Jack had no way of getting to. But now, he has Jack's trust and his admiration. And if Larry tells jack he is onto some other good deal, Jack will listen. After all. $300,000 is a lot of money in 1884. In f act, I have to wonder if Larry may want to help dad out by investing in his railroad dream?? If I were advising Jack, I would tell him to save 2/3 of the money...not in a bank, and use the other 1/3 to set himself up in a studio where he can experiment and invent other stuff. Jack has a very good mind and he likes to tinker.

R147vhere. Jack could easily subsist on $900 a year for himself to live off of while setting up his own studio. Interesting. I wonder if at some point George Russell will find something Jack can do for him.

I hope Jack manages to hold on to his money, but I'm just not buying this whole idea that he has been horribly cheated because he ONLY got $300,000, an enormous sum in those days as everybody acknowledges. And really, I think it's clear that without Larry, Jack would have wound up with much, much less. I suspect he was ready to settle for $600 and was pretty shocked when that wasn't what Larry was talking about.

Yeah, I hate that they’re gonna take all of Jacks money away somehow.

Easy come, easy go. That idiot Larry will probably have something to do with that. Or the equally idiotic, vainglorious Oscar.

It sucks.

Don’t go there, show, please.

I remember the Duke's sister from the live action Beauty and the Beast remake. She played the Enchantress and I thought she was quite beautiful.

[quote]And once again The Gilded Age isn't even nominated for Best Costume Design

Maybe because its not eligible for this past season ? That would do it.

Some of the items that they are wearing are actual vintage pieces like the purple bathrobe Bertha wears the the night before the wedding.

[quote] I wonder if at some point George Russell will find something Jack can do for him.

Or vice versa.

FrockFlicks has done a number of write-ups about The Gilded Age. This one is a review of how clothes are used to express individual characters. While many "interpretive" choices were made the real gowns of that era were often garish and ugly.

I can pretty much guarantee that any time a gown shows up on the show looking authentically period, it's from a rental house and not designed for the series.

I will say I was disappointed in Bertha's wedding attire. I expected so much more from her.

I looked up bustles and apparently we will have to put up with them for a while longer. I just do not get it.

r157 Co-sign everything you wrote. I actually laughed out loud when Agnes/Ada told Marian she looked beautiful, when her rear looked like a baboon's ass in that bustle! I guess things look more and more alien and inexplicable to us, the further back we go in time.

[quote] when her rear looked like a baboon's ass in that bustle!

I will not be truly happy unless I live to hear Mrs. Fish say that about somebody.