‘Superman’- oh, David Corenswet… A STAR IS BORN

[quote]Her Lois puts Amy Adams to shame.

Stop.

Why are you taking photos in a movie theater? Did you use a flash?

R1, how is that a controversial statement? Her Lois is loathed. She didn’t look or act like Lois at all.

[quote] Did you use a flash?

Flash came out several years ago.

OP's write-up reads more like a PR shill than a DLer who saw the movie.

A DLer would have provided details which are blatantly missing from a PG press review.

Amy Adams' Louis was/is not beloved, so that's absolutely not a controversial statement.

[quote]Originally there is a scene of Lex beating and torturing Krypto but it didn’t go well with test audiences who saw it so it was removed.

Gross, so glad they decided to remove that scene.

Saw it today and I thought the dog and Nicholas Hoult stole the show. David Corenswet is solid but he doesn't have an imposing presence. Also, that suit is really ugly. Granted some of this isn't Corenswet's fault because Gunn gives way too much screen time to the Justice Gang characters. Clark Kent is barely in this. Even Superman is off screen for a good portion once he's in the Pocket Universe.

Rachel Brosnahan was miscast and I didn't buy Lois' romance with Clark.

This is a PR shill post written by a heterosexual. A DLer would've included lascivious comments such as wanting to see Superman and Lex fuck with Lex being the bottom. Snarky comments about Lois's hair, wardrobe and dykish demeanor. Something obnoxious about Mr. Terrific and how ugly and unfuckable Guy Gardner is.

The whole "tone" is off in OP's post. It's clearly not written by a gay guy.

Hello intern at the WB PR department.

Definitely PR shill.

This is transparently a PR Shill

A datalounger would have bItched that Corenswet doesn’t remove his shirt.

Let’s all punish the OP with a FF.

OP I agree. Amy Adams as Lois was miscast from the start and her Lois was terrible. Rachel was the best Lois we’ve had since Margot Kidder. Corenswet is the best Superman we’ve had since Reeve (and shoutout to them giving his son a small cameo in this). Hoult is the best Lex I’ve seen. His Lex is true to the comics but not played up in a cartoonish way.

R12 not op but no. We wouldn’t all complain about stupid silly teenager shit like that. Most of us are grown men

I saw it last night. Corenswet is gorgeous and does a solid job. Nobody is ever going to be better than. Christopher Reeves. Lois was great imo. I love Nicholaus Hoult, but he seemed too young for the part and has bizarrely flawless skin like some weird man baby. The story and plot are a complete mess. Appalling, really. There were seven people in the theater. This is not going to do well, imo. I could be wrong and have been before.

[quote]This is not going to do well, imo.

Don't quit your day job, R15.

OP, this is DL. You're supposed to hate everything and post your enmity.

Corenswet and Brosnahan are both fabulous in this. Great chemistry.

thought he was hot as hell in Hollywood, but hey, who am I?

he's originally from philly I think

I’ve given up trying to interpret numbers when everything is considered a “bomb” these days but I think there’s a good chance it could make $130-150M this weekend. It doesn’t have to make $1B to be successful. It will arguably have little to no competition next week and it will still have the IMAX screens next week so that could definitely help it gain legs.

[quote] that could definitely help it gain legs.

Corenswet needs help gaining legs and ass as well unlike me.

I loved the whole movie including Corenswet and Brosnahan but mostly I loved Krypto. He was hilarious, especially for dog lovers.

The movie is great for people who hate Israel.

R15 You lost me at “Reeves”.

R55, it’s only Friday afternoon. The majority of the Friday box office hasn’t even happened yet. How do they know it’ll do $55 million? Are they psychics?

He used a Kodak Instamatic, R2. Call the police.

Earlier today they were like 140-150 million domestic OW. Now it's 115-120. Who knows where it will actually end up. The prediction numbers for this the past few days have been swinging all over the place. I wonder why this one is harder to predict than some.

Sorry, Amy Adams was miscast as Lois Lane. This is by no means a controversial or uncommon opinion. She's a great actress and tried her best with the material she had to work with, but nothing in her performances even suggested "Lois Lane." She had none of Lois's edge. Lois is a bit of a bitch sometimes, with a coat of armor that hides her romantic and vulnerable sides. Amy just played her as a Mary Sue. I blame Zack Snyder 100% for it.

I thought it was very entertaining. I'm not sure why some on DL want this movie to fail, but it's good.

I couldn’t understand the plot at all.

And there was no dynamic between her and Clark. Clark didn’t even really exist since she knew who Superman was from the gecko. I didn’t buy their relationship at all as there was zero chemistry. The only reason you knew they were even in a relationship was because they were in a bathtub together taking a bath. Snyder was just telling you instead of showing you organically.

[quote] she knew who Superman was from the gecko.

Was there product placement from GEICO?

R30, you sound “special”

The only costar with whom Cavill has had chemistry is walking leather handbag Luke Evans. I wonder why that is?

[quote]The only reason you knew they were even in a relationship was because they were in a bathtub together taking a bath.

I do not recall this scene. At what point in the movie does this occur?

Right in he beginning.

OP Shill.

You reek of it.

R7 that’s part of the point… Gunn didn’t want a super imposing Superman. Young people today find Superman boring. He was the top superhero once upon a time but by the 90s Batman became more popular, the rich guy who had to use his brain and gadgets to beat the bad guys who could easily kill him otherwise. Millennials never warmed up to Superman like they did many other superheroes. By the 2010s many felt Superman was a boring character, too perfect with too much power who no one could truly beat. And he’s always depicted as this massive and imposing figure. Gunn toned ALL OF THAT down so Superman no longer feels imposing or unbeatable but like “the strongest” guy of them all who isn’t unbeatable overall.

Hence why this film feels fun and fresh and not the same old we always get with Superman.

R37 I’m not OP and I loved it. Loved it so much I’m planning on watching it a second time tomorrow.

And for context, growing up in the 90s and 00s, I hated Superman. The Cavill movies in the 2010s were boring messes. Superman hasn’t worked on film since 1978.

Also, Reeve didn’t feel imposing. Corenswet is taking after that Superman.

[quote]The movie is great for people who hate Israel.

You know that Corenswet is a JEW, right?

I’m going to watch it a second time with closed captioning since I missed so much of the dialogue the first time.

[quote]You know that Corenswet is a JEW, right?

EW, a JEW?! Boycott!!

I didn't think DL would love a superhero movie so much.

[quote] Christopher Reeves.

Goddamnit! When will you ignoramuses learn how to write/say his surname correctly?

Sally Fields

R33 yes. He is.

R35 r36 that never happened. R36 didn’t actually see the movie clearly. No bathtub scene ever happened.

[quote]Was there product placement from GEICO?

Yes, there was!!

[quote]Millennials never warmed up to Superman like they did many other superheroes. By the 2010s many felt Superman was a boring character, too perfect with too much power who no one could truly beat. And he’s always depicted as this massive and imposing figure.

Well, the Henry Cavill films didn't do anything to give young viewers a good impression of Superman.

Hilarious that they told Jamie to beat it and only wanted solos of Flo.

SuperbMan

R51, what does that mean?

The bathtub scene the poster was referring to was in the Cavill Superman movie.

R53 oh yes. Batman v Superman.

I thought he was referring to this one and was confused.

There being a scene of Lex beating and torturing Krypto and it being cut makes the blonde chick telling Jimmy Olsen “a few days ago Lex Luther tortured a dog” make more sense.

He looks like a thumb. 🤢

R54, Synder didn’t give you a clue?

Krypto got a lot of laughs in the theater.

Supergirl’s cameo was ridiculous but gave context to why Krypto is so misbehaved and refuses to listen lol. Superman dog-sits while she’s off partying on other planets.

Just got out of it and I LOVED Superman.

I mean yes Superman is Superman so we know what to expect but the supporting characters were awesome! Mr. Terrific & Krypto were my fave. James Gunn did a fantastic job✨

I think my only con was… I expected more from Lex Luthor as a villain. But overall, a highly recommended watch! 🥰

Mr. Terrific from The Golden Girls is in this? I’ll definitely watch it in the theater.

I agree. The chemistry was off the charts between Lois and Superman in this one. Kinda hot.

It’s opening less than Man of Steel did.

12 years ago.

The genre is cooked.

Vulture article on the history of Krypto posted today

R62 Man of Steel made $116 million its opening weekend in 2013 when Superhero movies were still feeling fresh and people were excited for them. People are feeling fatigue all these years later.

This made $55 million its first day. We shall see how it performs.

Weeeeeee’ll seeeeeeeeee!

Saw it today and overall I thought it was good but not great. There are definitely some things that don't work - the CGI is really bad, some of the jokes fall flat, Lois is miscast, there's too much focus on the Justice Gang characters (Clark Kent barely has any screen time). For all the things that don't work, there are definitely some things that do. The story is engaging and moves at a fun, fast pace. Krypto is a real standout. I don't get the negative reviews that suggest Nicholas Hoult is the weak link. I thought he was the strongest actor here. David Corenswet is okay although he doesn't really have an imposing presence and the Superman suit is really ugly. While I don't think this will be one of the most iconic superhero films of all time, I do think it's worth seeing in the theater with an open mind.

R66 tell me you didn’t see it without telling me.

SUPERMAN WAS NOT IMPOSING.

You keep on with the imposing shit when he was not an imposing figure in the old comics nor tv shows nor Reeve films.

You must think the HATED Cavill films are what Superman is supposed to be like. That was not Superman of the comics.

Brosnahan was miscast? She was the closest thing we’ve gotten to Lois of the comics since Kidder, both physically and the way she presents herself.

[quote]This made $55 million its first day. We shall see how it performs.

But today is its first day. It’s still daytime and most of the screenings haven’t happened yet except for matinees. Where did this $55 million number come from?

Yeah I’m starting to think that poster A. Didn’t even watch the movie and B. Thinks the Cavill films were what Superman is supposed to be like.

Clark/Lois/Superman are all wrong in the Cavill films. They’re all different from the source material.

While we are at it, Dean Cain was Asian and had no business being Superman and Teri Hatcher was way too whiny as Lois. And yet their Superman and Lois were still closer to the comics than Adams and Cavill.

And let’s not even get started on what Snyder did to Lex Luther

R70 looking at your posting history you are CONSTANTLY posting films projected numbers before they even open…

R71 is what we call a gatekeeper.

Here’s what R71 believes Superman should be about

The entire movie is about Zionism. It believes Zionism or any kind of Jewish exceptionalism are evil. That is why Jor-El has been made evil; he represents the corrupted source, Judaism itself. Jor-El encourages Kal-El to infiltrate Earth so he can conquer it, take a harem, and spread his seed. This is an old Jewish racist stereotype out of Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Superman must battle a clone, born of the same corrupted genetic material that he carries. After defeating him, he rejects Jor-El (Judaism) and chooses to assimilate with the people of Metropolis (Western Christian-based society).

…and this is the response the movie is triggering on social media.

Lmaoooooooooo r73 r74 pathetic

My friend Mikaela Hoover is in this and I couldn’t be prouder of or happier for her. It’s her first decent talking part in a big movie.

People are shocked by how good it is

i love a good comedy

R79 no one cares. Corenswet is Jewish btw.

Your obsession is getting weird.

R80 your nice Jewish boy is now the face of a “Death to Israel” campaign

[quote]My friend Mikaela Hoover is in this and I couldn’t be prouder of or happier for her. It’s her first decent talking part in a big movie.

Your friend was hardly in the movie. I don’t remember a single scene of hers except taking a selfie by the window. All of her lines must have been cut.

R84 are you speaking about the blonde?

The blond taking selfies (Eva) was played by Sara Sampaio. There was another blond with glasses with the Daily Planet crew.

Oh she’s in a couple of brief scenes and is one of the people in the flying pod with Lois

Wasn’t she played by Calista Flockhart?

Cat Grant.

Just saw it. Blown away. Exceeded all expectations. Great performances all around and a very entertaining story. The supporting cast was great too and not "too many characters" as some feared. Will see again.

[quote]I'm not sure why some on DL want this movie to fail, but it's good.

The is DL with every big blockbuster lately, it's the one of the biggest troll . They did this with Wicked and Barbie, too, even as those films has viral WOM from their opening through breaking box offices records for weeks. It's like they want to convince us we live in an alternate universe where these popular films were bombs and no one on DL could ever actually claim to enjoy them without being a "shill." I always assume every single post screaming "shill!" is on someone's payroll somewhere, either a rival studio or a rival star(s). There's also a presence of

Sorry, biggest troll topics.

Well, I guess I am in the minority for not liking it. Just like Barbie.

Why does he look retarded in OP’s photo?

He looks gorgeous

[quote] It’s opening less than Man of Steel did.

Duh!!!

[quote] [R62] Man of Steel made $116 million its opening weekend in 2013 when Superhero movies were still feeling fresh and people were excited for them. People are feeling fatigue all these years later.

Today, a ticket costs twice what it did in 2013.

Keep in mind the Friday numbers were boosted by several days of previews. Its domestic numbers are stronger than its overseas numbers. Overall, it's no flop but definitely no great win and far away from what was expected.

It does need to make a billion to be considered successful, as the first Aquaman was the first DC film to get it, under the old regime with Walter Hamada, before Zazlav.

The box office numbers being tallied back and forth are like straight dudes with football.

I thought the dog looked like a puppet.

[QUOTE]It does need to make a billion to be considered successful

Well, don't look at me!

R97 which would explain why less people are going? Do you live in a bubble? Go outside and touch grass. Meet people. Most Americans are struggling financially.

Your parents failed you.

R99 it need $500 million. Enough with the made up numbers.

Go sign up for college.

Yes honey!

Aquaman was the first and only DC film in the last decade to hit $1 billion.

Stop with the made up bullshit. The Batman was considered a massive success with $700 million.

[quote]Most Americans are struggling financially.

Not where I live. Our portfolios are pretty solid right now.

r104, production cost reportedly $225 M, marketing budget in the environ of $200. In the film world, if it reaches $500M, it's just barely breaking even and I'll guarantee you that the actors won't see a lot of backend points because it'll be considered financially not successful. I know the 2 principal actors, director, and EP (who is the EP of this film) of a very successful horror franchise (film budgets were between $13M- $65M per film for a total of 8 films) that has made $2.2 billion, and WB/NL are not giving them their backends claiming that they weren't successful. They are going to sue, but it's going to be years until they see anything.

R107 again, maybe get out of your bubble more. Or turn on the news. It’s easy for someone to EDUCATE themselves in 2025. Very easy.

R108 sweetie, Man of Steel cost more than that over a decade ago and finished with $670 million worldwide.

If that is a “success” this doesn’t need fucking $1 billion to be successful.

We are sick of the uneducated comments from you. You didn’t even step foot in college.

R108: Assuming they're being honest and the $225M budget is accurate, doesn't it really need to make $700M to be considered a successful win?

r109 you sound poor

R112 and you sound uneducated. Which you are.

In case anyone doesn’t know, this person is always running his mouth yet hasn’t even stepped foot in a college.

r113 The J.D. from Columbia says otherwise, babe.

r113 = frantically Googling what a J.D. is.

Hon at r110, do you even work in film?

R114 only that’s a lie. Enough is enough with the lying. Look at your fucking posting history.

Just decided to look up r114 posting history because of r117. No Columbia grad is sitting on Datalounge posting all day like that.

[quote][R108]: Assuming they're being honest and the $225M budget is accurate, doesn't it really need to make $700M to be considered a successful win?

If it makes $700 million at the box-office, then it will still make $1 billion when it's all said and done. People underestimate how much digital sales, streaming deals, and merch sales add to a movie's bottom line. Superman will be a streaming hit for decades.

R105 wtf? six times?! I seem to have seen a different film from what everyone else is hailing as a “masterpiece.” I loved GOTG btw.

Streaming killed the box office.

Good. It’s a masterpiece and blast

Nicholas Hoult has always looked like a sparkly-eyed little elf to me - especially in his earlier work. Attractive? Yeah, okay. Hot? No.

I’ve never found Nicholas Hoult attractive nor very talented. I do like him enough though.

He was good in this.

It is opening less than Man of Steel ($128.7 million, non-inflation adjusted.)

Inflation adjusted, that’s $177.5 million. It’s only doing 2/3 of that.

Some people feel he didn’t do enough with Lex and that his performance is understated in a very loud and large movie (similar criticism to Paul Mescal in Gladiator 2) but I thought he was good and him playing Lex as more serious worked. The villain being a bit more serious surrounded by people dropping one liners seems fine.

R125 cool. Man of Steel came out over a decade ago and opened to $116 million. Not $128

Love this! They’re all so excited for him.

It's a domestic hit but an overseas flop.

Fantastic Four will likely fail to break even as well.

Love this shot from the film!

Nathan Fillion is hysterical in this btw

r118 I don't post "all day" but I am on here quite a bit. I knew the Columbia thing would be a trigger!

[quote]It's a domestic hit but an overseas flop.

Maybe it's the Jew thing?

Superman has not done well overseas for decades. He’s an American figure and very pro American.

Take a deep breath, R120. People have an opinion that differs from yours. It's really not that big of a deal.

You might fare better if you stuck to threads about the things you like, instead of going full-negative in threads about things you dislike. Go find your peeps. They're not here.

Capybara.

Thanks for triggering me, R45

R133 the only trigger is that you would have the nerve to lie about something like that. You don’t have a college degree. You don’t have a good education. You still live off family. You don’t have a job. Meanwhile you are in your early 20s. We know everything about you and your many accounts and online crimes.

Superman cosplayers at the Japan premiere

OP clearly you didn't see the same movie I did. This film (with the exception of the Pa and Ma Kent scenes) has no heart. David Corenswet may be easy on the eyes but he's a bit bland and doesn't have the confidence Christopher Reeves brought to the role. All Nicholas Hoult did was rattle off numbers from a skyscraper. As for Rachel Brosnahan, I'd liked her on Maisel but she was miscast here.

R141 most would disagree with you. It has an A- Cinemascore and word of mouth is praising it.

A lot of people in the comments section on Deadline are comparing it to Batman Begins from twenty years ago.

Man of Steel made 670 million at the global box office.Superman will make around 580 million .Enough said.

I’m sure A LOT of people are saying that.

A- Cinemascore. It’s getting praised by most critics. Watchers are praising it all over social media. Reddit movie board is in love with it.

R144 you’re the only one comparing.

There are many reasons for that and it isn’t the film itself.

Anyone comparing this to Batman Begins is a retard. This isn’t an origin story. BB was.

Totally arbitrary but I think its domestic weekend total will be $128M and change.

I just saw it. It's a good, solid film. Corenswet is handsome and a very large man. It's obvious in the movie. IMDB indicates he's 6'4".

I keep reading his name as Cornsweat!

[quote] Man of Steel made 670 million at the global box office.Superman will make around 580 million .Enough said.

Man of Steel was also a lot more expensive to make, adjusted for inflation. So the ROI isn’t there.

Man of Steel was also a piece of shit movie that set up one of the most disastrous movie franchises in history. This film is setting up something a lot different and much more in line with what fans want and what these characters were meant to be,

The WOM is incredible. I spent time last night with people who I never even expected to see it let alone like it, and they were raving about it. This film is not "bombing" even it it!s a few degrees below MoS's opening weekend.

R152 it did well and is getting a lot of love. It’s nice to have a fun Superman again.

The last point is the one most keep ignoring more. DC goodwill has been out the window for years now. People had mixed reactions to Man of Steel, Batman v Superman was critically panned and hated by the public, people didn’t like Justice League, the did like Wonder Woman a lot but hated the sequel, they liked Aquaman but hated the sequel, and didn’t even bother watching Flash because goodwill for DC was done.

This film is trying to bring viewers back to DC films.

LOVED the Mr. Terrific fight scene.

People please stop recording on your phones. But fun scene.

Mr. Terrific was awesome.

How about Mr Haha?

I just got out of it! BEST SUPERMAN MOVIE EVAAAAHHH!

I always feel bad for Brandon Routh. No one, and I mean no one, even acknowledges his Superman movie or him as Superman when discussing the actors who’ve portrayed him.

It’s always Reeve (obviously) and Cavill. Sometimes the TV versions are thrown in but it’s ALWAYS those two. And now Corenswet.

Now some are claiming Man Of Steel was a very Republican movie lmao

Poor thing, his collapse is complete. He’s this year’s Alden Ehrenreich, except with no personality.

Very Republican coded.

The movie has great word of mouth, which should help it at the box office over the next few weeks.

Gunn and Zaslav are trying to spin it as a success when it let's just say under-performed.

I was never a Superman fan, or fan of DC comics in general. I read Marvel comics from around eight years old to maybe thirteen. I don't have a dog in this hunt. But I find comparing the current Superman to Man of Steel kind of ridiculous. I don't know much about the industry, but it seems that it's all changed. Since the advent of streaming and COVID, I don't think any movies are opening like they did ten years ago.

I have some criticism of this film, but I couldn’t even make it through Man Of Steel so it definitely deserves to do better than that pos.

I thought Superman would open bigger than Jurassic Park: Rebirth, but it made considerably less. Superman made $217 million and Rebirth made $322.5. Rebirth has already grossed $529 million worldwide, despite bad reviews. It's not looking good for The Fantastic Four next weekend.

[quote] The Fantastic Four next weekend.

How will it compare to The Fantasticks?

Matt Bomer was thisclose to being cast as Superman instead of Brandon Routh until they found out he sucked dick and took it up the ass. I am convinced he's still bitter about that, no matter what he's said publicly.

[quote] The movie has great word of mouth, which should help it at the box office over the next few weeks.

No, hon. All the big movies are coming out starting this week. This is it for it.

Fantastic Four will easily beat Superman.

They really need to shift all this superhero crap to television. The rest of the world doesn’t care, and they can’t go making these big budget films and depend on the domestic box office to recoup their losses. It’s simply impossible.

[quote] Matt Bomer was thisclose to being cast as Superman instead of Brandon Routh until they found out he sucked dick and took it up the ass. I am convinced he's still bitter about that, no matter what he's said publicly.

Well, at least his Jurassic World is beating Superman when going head to head. He can take solstice in that.

Matt Bomer is not in Jurassic World.

I want Corenswet to deflower me very gently and tenderly until he blasts his man spray.

R174, but his gay co-star is.

R175, he has a tiny dick. You won’t feel a thing.

[quote] Matt Bomer was thisclose to being cast as Superman instead of Brandon Routh until they found out he sucked dick and took it up the ass.

Matt Bomer cannot act. How would that have worked? A mannequin Superman?

R177: And a flat ass.

[quote] he has a tiny dick. You won’t feel a thing.

So what if he has a tiny dick. He can make up for it with his smile.

R178, Matt Bohmer is an excellent actor when he's well cast. He was one of the best things about THE BOYS IN THE BAND, and also very good in THE NORMAL HEART.

[quote] Matt Bomer cannot act. How would that have worked? A mannequin Superman?

Cavill can’t act either.

R178, Superman is not about acting.

People are making fun of Corenswet’s padding. They’ll be rebooting this with a new actor in a few years. Mark my words.

[quote]The rest of the world doesn’t care, and they can’t go making these big budget films and depend on the domestic box office to recoup their losses.

I randomly picked Marvel superhero movies from the last few years. Thor: Love And Thunder and Captain America: Brave New World. Neither was particularly well reviewed. Both their international grosses exceeded their domestic.

The public likes well done supe movies. DC was a disaster for years. Maybe Gunn can turn it around. Marvel churned out a lot of content, not all of it well-received. Feige is now much more involved in all the productions and they've cut back on the amount of content, focusing on less but better movies. Maybe it will also work.

You may not care, R172, but many people do.

[quote] They’ll be rebooting this with a new actor in a few years.

Brandon Routh would be an excellent choice. He’s talented, handsome and has experience in the role.

R161 the film has been out for 3 days. It is the third biggest opening this year and the biggest opening for a Superman movie ever.

Comparing it to Solo that bombed is ridiculous. Solo made $213 million domestically total. This already made more than half that in 3 days. Please get a grip. And sign up for some college courses while you’re at it so you can rub shoulders with us who are educated.

R167 you thought that because you don’t know shit about the movie industry, Superman, Jurassic Park or the box office.

JP is a billion dollar franchise. Superman never was that.

R176 that has nothing to do with Bomer

Gunn was hired by WB to lead DC movies so he can reboot it and make them successful after flop after flop. They lost hundreds of millions on DC shit. That’s why Gunn was hired and is the head of DC films. He’s here to try and gain favor in DC films again after people gave up on them.

Superman is the first one. People are gonna be skeptical. It’s been 3 days. The loser who never went to college and lives off his family and doesn’t have a job is all over this thread. Like get a job.

Not a great film to me. I'm sure it'll be a big hit, which is great. I'll admit that the superhero is not my primary interest, but I know good storytelling when I see it. And this is not it. I was bored and it didn't keep my attention. It's jumbled mess. The storytelling is disjointed, and there is nothing compelling about it. There's no depth to his relationship with Lois Lane. There are too many other superhero characters which I didn't care about. And the dog, which could have been a great addition is underused.

Superman Returns was a good movie and Routh did a good job at reviving Reeve’s Superman (he was playing Reeve’s Superman and not a new version) but everyone else was miscast, especially Kate Bosworth. Her Lois was so unlikable and kept making bad decision after bad decision. And Spacey is so over the top and hammy as Lex it was cringe.

Parker Posey was great though.

Personally, I liked it a lot. I would definitely go see it again

[quote] [R176] that has nothing to do with Bomer

Are you saying Bomer can’t cheer on his co-star’s massive BO?

Well, it was a fun summertime movie.

I didn’t really like how not omnipotent Supes was. He got his ass kicked pretty consistently.

Loved Krypto.

Ah, that Luthor, always going for the ill-gotten real estate! 😨

😛

R194 no. He can’t. As his FORMER costar has nothing to do with that films success.

[quote] I didn’t really like how not omnipotent Supes was. He got his ass kicked pretty consistently.

Uh, do you even know why he got his ass kicked consistently?

Winning

SUCK ON IT, HATERS.

WBD Boss David Zaslav Celebrates DC Win At The Box Office:

This is their first win in years

As I posted on another thread, I saw it today and loved it. I'm usually very critical and hate everything. It's certainly not perfect but glad I saw it. The last post credit shot of Superman and Krypto looking out over the Earth from space and snuggling made me tear up.

Only $217 million global opening? That’s only $25 million more worldwide than the flop Captain America 4 opened with ($192 million).

And the biggest ever for Superman. Stay mad. He’s never done great overseas.

Been listening to this soundtrack all day. I love it so much!

“Last Son” gives me chills

Bitsie Tulloch is the best Lois.

Another amazing one. So beautiful and gentle. Just like Lois and Clark with each other. Beautiful. Brings a tear to my eyes.

They should have used more of John Williams’ music.

That punk stuff was ridiculous.

Yes, I’m old-ish. 😛

The thing I wasn’t sure about was Rachel Brosnahan’s Lois.

Margot Kidder and Erica Durance aren’t great actresses, but they were great Loises. Amy Adams is a great actress, but a lousy. Lois.

Brosnahan was both.

How do we know he has a tiny dick? He huge and has big hands and feet.

R210, we have eyes. 👀

[quote] Margot Kidder and Erica Durance aren’t great actresses, but they were great Loises. Amy Adams is a great actress, but a lousy. Lois. Brosnahan was both.

A lousy actress and a lousy Lois?

[quote] Another amazing one. So beautiful and gentle. Just like Lois and Clark with each other.

This song played every time Clark and Lois were on screen. I went to an open caption screening and every time they started to talk, right on cue the caption said “A beautiful and gentle music starts playing.” The captions make you more aware how you’re being manipulated to feel in the moment since it spells it out for you.

[quote]They should have used more of John Williams’ music.

I like how grandiose the John Williams music was. Nothing beats the music from the first Christopher Reeve movie when the huge dome was opening on Krypton at the beginning.

I also like the Hans Zimmer Man of Steel music.

R213 open caption didn’t say that shit.

I saw it yesterday and loved it! I can't really compare it to the Reeve movie, though. How do you compare two movies made almost 50 years apart? But I can compare the experience I had seeing both. In 1978, 13-year old me had a great time (as most 13-year old boys would have). And I've always loved the John Williams score. So yesterday, sitting in the theater waiting for the movie to start, I felt like I was 13 again. When the lights went down and those first few notes of Williams' theme began playing, I was smiling ear-to-ear. I'm not sure my smile ever left my face during the whole movie. It was simply a fun, joyful experience, as a Superman movie should be.

Brosnahan was amazing. Now I KNOW that jobless idiot didn’t watch it. Her performance is universally praised bud. Even the bad reviews said she was amazing.

Her Lois was Lois.

[quote] [R213] open caption didn’t say that shit.

Yes, it did. When Lex came on screen, it said “Ominous music plays” and when Superman wins, it said “Triumphant score swells.” And it displayed all the lyrics during Mr. Terrific’s fight.

Could someone explain the hair on Nathan Fillion's Guy Gardner's Green Lantern?

There’s nothing wrong with his hair. Did you also ask Justin Bieber or Nick Carter to explain their hair?

Because that's how Guy Gardner's hair was drawn in the comic books.

R219 he’s in his 50s but desperately trying to be young and cool. Lois makes a comment about his haircut being bad when she gets upset and he gets upset and says 300 people disagree (referring to a poll taken about his hair on social media).

Fillion as Guy Gardner got a lot of laughs in my theater. The character himself is the joke. He’s super arrogant and cocky and walks around like he’s 18 with a teenage haircut but in reality is this pudgy 50something year old man who looks like an idiot but he thinks he looks cool.

[quote] he gets upset and says 300 people disagree (referring to a poll taken about his hair on social media).

He said 349 women disagree. I think that’s the number of women he slept with, not a social media poll.

[quote]Could someone explain the hair on Nathan Fillion's Guy Gardner's Green Lantern?

He asked for the Corky St. Clair

I’ll admit, I can’t stand Fillion, but he wasn’t as repulsive to me in this.

He did good, especially helping those poor downtrodden people from that country.

His hair was a ridiculous abomination, tho.

^^^^Let's welcome Stana Katic to that chat!!!

R209 glaringly left someone off of his comparison list.

Sorry to Bitsie Turlock!

As great as the score was, and as much as I don’t want to take away from John Williams’ classic score, or John Murphy’s beautiful respectful homage, one of the ones that I’ve thought has always been overlooked is Christopher Drake’s score for the animated version of Grant Morrison’s All-Star Superman. It’s an homage to Williams in a way, just Superman at the end of his career instead of at the beginning.

It’s kind of a master class in how you can use the same basic piece of music to tell the same story with a change of tempo and instrumentation. There’s a moment just before 2:00 where these sweeping horns and almost celestial choral elements give way to fast strings and heavy percussion doing the same basic melody. But it tells you exactly what’s happening.

[quote]I thought Superman would open bigger than Jurassic Park: Rebirth

Not sure why you would set those unrealistically high expectations, since Superman is a franchise that has been struggling for decades through multiple reboots while the Jurassic franchise keeps pushing out piles of steaming dinosaur shit in the same time frame that fans inevitably go wild for at the box office every time.

The fact that this Superman film is both critically acclaimed and has great WOM is something not really seen since Christopher Reeve. Comparing it to MoS's opening is also silly: MoS was the first entry in DC's attempt to go head-to-head with Marvel's insanely popular universe. The excitement among fans was palpable and there was none of the CBM fatigue we see now, fatigue brought on by Snyders grimdark "vision."

People were excited for MoS because they thought it would be good. It wasn't, and very little that followed for the next decade was any better. People were less excited for Superman because of the poor showing of the previous DC films, yet they still turned out for it. WOM will be a factor in the second weekend even with F4 opening - another reboot of a long struggling suoerhero franchise. We'll see how they stack up.

WOM

[quote]WOM will be a factor in the second weekend even with F4 opening

[italic]Fantastic Four[/italic] doesn't open until the 25th, so [italic]Superman[/italic] will hang on to the premium formats (IMAX, Dolby) for another weekend and will only be facing [italic]Smurfs[/italic] and [italic]I Know What You Did Last Summer[/italic] as new releases.

Man of Steel beat it on its opening weekend when accounting for inflation. This was not the major hit they needed it to be. They need to go back to creative filmmaking with original ideas and stop depending on this banal superhero slop that is well past its prime.

Jennifer ❤️ Hewitt will beat David Corenswet’s ass next weekend!

Sucking Ryan Murphy's dick opens a lot of doors apparently.

I could only presume Ms Murphy did all the sucking.

No, David Corenswet is straight!

You could put Billy Porter in that suit and the box office results would likely be the same.

Loved it!

And Lois was fantastic!

The comparisons to MoS are laughable because a teeny tiny little thing called COVID happened since then and the entire film industry has never recovered from it and probably never will. Pretending that never happened isn't helping anyone's argument.

I've left my house for exactly 3 films since Covid. This was one of them. And I'm glad I did.

The truth is, adjusted for inflation, this opening is very close to the box office for a similar movie with the same characters over a decade ago. If you think getting 2013 blockbuster-numbers for a film in 2025 is somehow a "flop," you're not worth listening to.

Our fav guy David will be making his Tonight Show debut this evening

The promo tour that will never end.

I don't get how you can call this a win given its $225M budget (assuming that's 100% accurate) and the fact that it will hardly gross over $500M worldwide.

It did great.

R243 it’s in their contracts.

R246: I know but the film is already out. Do they really think more media appearances are going to move the needle?

Well the internet is flooded with posts trying to tank the film so maybe they don't think "the film is out, we can all pack up now" is a viable marketing strategy.

These interviews are set weeks to months in advance.

[quote]Do they really think more media appearances are going to move the needle?

Fucking Piers Morgan just had Dean Cain on to trash the movie. Why shouldn't Corenswet continue to promote his movie (and counter some of that nonsense)?

Hopefully he will be on Colbert.

One more flop or two before Gunn gets fired.

R244 how is making more than double your budget not a win?

THR ranks all of the Superman movies:

A blast and doing well. Good.

R255: It will lose at least $150 million because of its $225 million budget and at least $150 million in marketing.

[quote] That punk stuff was ridiculous.

But maybe thinking everyone is beautiful is the real punk rock.

R256 you need help. It’s been out FOUR DAYS. 4. And you keep speaking like it’s been out weeks.

Relax.

Jesus. Gen Z is so stupid. No wonder they can’t hold a job.

Warner Bros already confirmed they spent $100 million on marketing.

What marketing? Superman doesn’t need marketing. Everyone already knows who she is,

I wasn't sure what was going on. Why are some people are zeroing in on this standard superhero movie for a hate campaign? Now I get it. MAGA hates it. It's too woke or something, so they've targeted it. Now it must fail.

Damned if one of the best comments that I saw wasn’t from Whoopi on The View hosting Corenswet and Brosnahan.

Like, I was expecting her to have a weird take (I mean, it’s Whoopi and The View). But Christopher Reeve was her friend, and she just went on and on about how much she liked it, but in their first scene together starting to get annoyed…but then realized that she was getting upset because she’d forgotten what kindness looks like. Which lead her to interrogate why she wouldn’t expect him to be kind.

Corenswet’s bashful smile is everything.

The attempts to sink the film and declare it "a flop" are from 3 distinct groups:

1) the usual DL misanthropes who live to shit all over anything new, popular or uplifting.

2) "Snyder Bros" aka extremely online fans of the previous DC franchise driven by Zack Snyder, which was replaced by this universe helmed by James Gunn. Fans lamenting the departure of Henry Cavill also often fit this profile.

3) MAGAs being MAGAs about a film that their cult leaders have deemed "woke."

In other words, there's no use arguing with these people.

I've seen more convincing Superman busking on Hollywood Blvd.

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IT DIDN'T MAKE A BILLION DOLLAR ON OPENING WEEKEND!!!! FLOP-CITY!!!! LOL!!!

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[quote] 2) "Snyder Bros" aka extremely online fans of the previous DC franchise driven by Zack Snyder, which was replaced by this universe helmed by James Gunn. Fans lamenting the departure of Henry Cavill also often fit this profile.

And this was even after Gunn gave them an olive branch by having them cameo as Lex’s army of monkeys.

He's never going to win a charisma prize but indeed he is hot and one of the more intelligent, articulate celebrities.

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r253, because they put in around $200 million for marketing.

No. They put in $100 million.

James Gunn might give Lois super powers

He’s so intelligent and articulate!

He’s well spoken.

Grunting Henry Cavill could never!

Variety says that they spent over $250 million dollars on global marketing.

The film must make 2.5 times its production budget to start making a profit. This film is not making a cent back. It’s yet another bomb for Warner Bros.

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The mark of de facto.

Give it a fucking rest already, JFC.

Did you personally finance this movie???

Who. Give. A. Fuck. How. Much. It. Cost. To make???

It didn’t cost any of us ANY money. Marketing budget? Special effects budget??

Who gives a rats ass.

Just enjoy the fucking movie, or don’t. And stop with these comments.

Apparently nobody but you gives a damn. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

R281 THANK YOU. Enough is enough.

They took a look at the weak international numbers and thought the whole "Superman is an immigrant" campaign would help.

Superdog was too CGI-y, I was disappointed. No dog moves like that. They can't get it right (same with Tintin).

“No dog moves like that”

It’s a fucking dog with super strength and the ability to fly…

Dude is on his 4th watch.

My dog has super strength too and can fly and he does NOT move like that.

[quote] Dude is on his 4th watch.

Why does he replace his watches so often?

YES!

Christopher Reeves was so beautiful…but too perfect like a doll or AI creation. Corenswet is sexier

Awwww

It still has the IMAX screens for one more weekend and should score a strong holdover considering its only competition will be The Smurfs movie and I Know What You Did Last Summer. Why they didn't release I Know What You Did Last Summer on Halloween when it would've fared better is beyond me.