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Your personal ancestral immigration story

I always knew my family immigrated here very long ago, but not until my sister did the genealogical research did we learn that our earliest ancestors arrived in 1660. They were known as Palatines. Two brothers from Prussia (later became Germany) were the first to arrive. My father carried the name of one brother 300+ years later. They became colonists, farmers and eventual landowners who later settled farms in Ohio, a branch moved south and owned slaves. Some were part of the Pennsylvania Dutch colony. My branch settled in CA in 1905.

In doing some research I was amused to find this quote from Benjamin Franklin, complaining about the Palatine refugees:

"Why should the Palatine boors be suffered to swarm into our settlements, and by herding together establish their language and manners to the exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a colony of aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of us Anglifying them, and will never adopt our language or customs, any more than they can acquire our complexion."

Things never change, do they?

My ancestors fought in the American Revolution and every war after through WWII. My family also is now so mixed by marrying newer immigrants that I carry the DNA of 12 different nationalities. The youngest generation now includes a mix of European, Scandinavian, Spanish, Mexican, Jewish, African American, and now, Asian, DNA.

Isn't diversity, equality, and love grand?

What's your family immigration experience?

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by Anonymousreply 95July 12, 2025 6:13 AM

A majority of Americans of German descent can trace their lineage back to the Palatinate. It's a fertile region in more ways than one.

by Anonymousreply 1July 9, 2025 4:38 PM

My dad’s maternal line came here from Sweden in the 1800s; his paternal line was mostly English, and they arrived in New England in the late 1600s.

My mom’s side is much more recent—her mother was born in present-day Ukraine on the Black Sea. My great-grandmother was a Black Sea German who was born/raises in Odessa. My great-grandfather was from the same region and was of part-Jewish descent. He was murdered by the German-led occupation in the Odessa oblast. My great-grandmother, who was not Jewish, fled with the children (one of them my grandmother) through Poland and made it to Germany by the time the war had ended. They ended up being sponsored by another family of German immigrants in North Dakota, and came over through Ellis Island after the war. My grandmother (and great-grandmother), needless to say, had difficult lives.

by Anonymousreply 2July 9, 2025 4:39 PM

9th great grandfather landed in New France in 1647; my grandfather’s family emigrated to New England in 1894.

My mother’s great grandfather left Faial, Azores on a whaling ship at age thirteen, and landed at New Bedford in 1834.

by Anonymousreply 3July 9, 2025 4:44 PM

I always knew I was mostly Irish but I was stunned when I did a DNA test and came out 100% British and Irish. A friend joked I was aggressively Caucasian. My dads side has been in Canada more than 100 years and my moms side has been hear since the 30s and still there’s been no mixing with people from other European countries even. I thought there’d be something else there even if it was five or 10%. My ancestors apparently came from all over Ireland and lancashire

by Anonymousreply 4July 9, 2025 4:46 PM

My paternal grandfather immigrated from Prussia in1912. At that time Poland did not exist as a country. His future wife came from Austria-Hungary and was sent back home from Ellis Island because she was ill. She made it here just in time to die from the Spanish Flu when my father was an infant. My maternal lineage is French Canadian.

by Anonymousreply 5July 9, 2025 5:09 PM

My maternal grandfather's ancestors came to Virginia from England as indentured servants in the 17th century. My maternal grandmother's ancestors came to Philadelphia from Germany as Protestants in Catholic Bavaria, also in the 17th century.

Don't know much about my paternal side's arrival in the New World, but they also seem to have been here since the 16th or 17th century.

by Anonymousreply 6July 10, 2025 4:16 AM

Thanks for starting this thread, OP. I love reading your story and the others!

On my Dad's side it was Irish and Danish immigrants coming in during the 1860s, as well as some Mayflower and later ships of ancestors coming in during the 1600s.

On my Mom's side it was pretty much all English, one of which was in the Jamestown Settlement in 1607.

I also did have one Prussian sailor ancestor who changed his name. My favorite ancestor was a sea captain from Hamburg who came to the US in 1828. He changed his German name Wilhelm to William (not uncommon), but he changed his last name (Temm) to Brown, a version of his wife's last name (Browning). I have no idea why such a change - was he in trouble? I will never know. But I have records of him staying at a brothel for a while, where it turns out he met his wife (whose brother owned the brothel).

I find this stuff really interesting, I know most do not.

by Anonymousreply 7July 10, 2025 4:36 AM

I find it all interesting, too, R7. William Browns story is fascinating. Let's hope his wife had some job in the brothel other than serving the customers. And you have a Mayflower ancestor! There are some really interesting posts here. Early arrivals, colonists, a 13 yr old girl on a whaling ship, Jamestown, and indentures servants. Makes me want to relearn our history.

My favorite ancestor, of the ones I've known, is my grandmother. She was full of stories, style, and advice. Liked her cocktails and had a happy, tinkling laugh. She was lively and spirited and told us this story. Her father was a known womanizer in their small city in Ohio (circa 1917). One night on the way home from a tryst the angry husband shot him. It was a flesh wound and later that night she and her mother dressed the wound. Deeply ashamed, my teenaged grandma vowed she'd leave Ohio and never look back. When she met grandpa while he was visiting family after WWI, she took the opportunity to leave town and go with him to his adopted home in San Francisco where they married. She once told me in a letter, "Follow your dreams, nothing ventured, nothing gained."

by Anonymousreply 8July 10, 2025 10:52 PM

My ancestors on one side left England (East Anglia) for New York in the 1660s, subsequent generations moving west bit by bit as the frontier expanded. My ancestors on the other side were farmers who left Småland, Sweden, in the 1860s, settling in Nebraska.

by Anonymousreply 9July 11, 2025 1:00 AM

[quote] Småland

Makes sense. Once they were no longer children I’m sure IKEA no longer wanted them hanging out in Småland.

by Anonymousreply 10July 11, 2025 1:15 AM

My Nana, her husband, my mother and uncle were brought here from Germany after wwII although my Nana's husband was Ukrainian. My father was adopted so, not a ton known.

by Anonymousreply 11July 11, 2025 1:15 AM

I ascend from an African Queen and a Hottentot.

by Anonymousreply 12July 11, 2025 1:41 AM

There should be some standard labeling for present day Americans based on when their earliest line in America arrived. People whose ancestors arrived in the 1600s should be Original Americans (after the Indians) and people whose ancestors arrived after the Revolution should be the Latecomers. The 1700s before the Revolution could be just Early Americans.

by Anonymousreply 13July 11, 2025 1:41 AM

What if your ancestry is split though like R2? Would the lineage of the earliest arrivers take precedence? It seems like a logistical nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 14July 11, 2025 1:46 AM

Paternal lineage started in the US around 1630, that family lived in New England until about 1850 and moved to the Midwest.

by Anonymousreply 15July 11, 2025 1:55 AM

My maternal grandfather's line also descended from an indentured servant from England in the 18th century . My paternal grandfathers line were from Germany in the early 1800s . My maternal grandmothers mother descended from a noble line from Spain who lost everything in the Spanish American war. Their plantation was burned to the ground and land seized .My great grandmother and her nanny fled on a fishing boat steered by my great grandfather,who was 16 . She was 14 . They married a year later . Then had 22 kids,17 who lived to adult hood. So when I say Im related to half of Miami,believe it !

by Anonymousreply 16July 11, 2025 2:11 AM

I have a definite 18th century ancestor who appears in all genealogy trees as the great-grandson of Samuel Fuller, who crossed on the Mayflower when he was 12. However, the General Society of Mayflower Descendants won’t accept that my ancestor is his father’s son, along with all the other children from the father’s second marriage. The Mayflowerdna.org site acknowledges that there is evidence of the second marriage, including DNA evidence, but they want more. I’m screwed out of joining the society.

by Anonymousreply 17July 11, 2025 2:13 AM

R13 No, there shouldn't.

by Anonymousreply 18July 11, 2025 2:18 AM

R13 I’m more of an Original American than most republicans. My family came here knowing English.

by Anonymousreply 19July 11, 2025 2:22 AM

R13 Let's just say we're all Americans.

by Anonymousreply 20July 11, 2025 2:26 AM

Like a lot of people I have ancestors who lived in New Amsterdam. One was 2years old when the English took control. His mother was born in New Amsterdam in 1640 and his father was born in the old country. These ancestors I find interesting because they witnessed the changeover.

I can attest that not all descendants of the original Dutch settlers became like the fictional elite van Rhijn family.

by Anonymousreply 21July 11, 2025 2:26 AM

R13 is J.D. Vance, who believes that some Americans are more American than others.

by Anonymousreply 22July 11, 2025 2:28 AM

[quote] Let's just say we're all Americans.

R20, are you one of the Latecomers?

by Anonymousreply 23July 11, 2025 2:29 AM

R23 Haha. Yeah, "Latecomers" i love that. Holy Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 24July 11, 2025 2:31 AM

It is interesting in flyoverstan you have so many patriotic people who have only been here several generations but people out east who have been rooter here way longer and don’t care as much.

by Anonymousreply 25July 11, 2025 2:35 AM

Rooted* not rooter. Once he’s gone, can we PLEASE get an edit function?

by Anonymousreply 26July 11, 2025 2:36 AM

What about the people whose ancestors came through Ellis Island in the late 19th, early 20th century? (like mine) Oh, yeah -- the Undesirables.

by Anonymousreply 27July 11, 2025 2:38 AM

My earliest ancestors immigrated in the late 19th century and the last one came over in 1920. I'm a blue-eyed white guy with an easily pronounceable name. I am also predominantly Irish. I'm honestly glad to be descended from later arrivals and not some nasty colonizers or people-owners. I'm always grossed out when people proudly proclaim their family's long association with this country. I'm always like "you're proud of that? Huh." but I keep that to myself. Nowadays I barely even want to think of myself as American with the way this shit hole country is going, and I definitely don't think it's brag-worthy.

by Anonymousreply 28July 11, 2025 2:41 AM

R27 I find it interesting my mom was adopted but the father who adopted her was from a Jewish family that came through Ellis island but ended up in Chicago.

by Anonymousreply 29July 11, 2025 2:42 AM

[quote] I'm a blue-eyed white guy

I think it’s wild that it is said that all blue-eyed people (as am I) have a common ancestor. We’re all carrying his gene.

by Anonymousreply 30July 11, 2025 2:46 AM

One of my grandfathers, from Italy, came through Ellis Island, wound up in Quebec and Vermont (stone quarries, his sister worked in one as a timekeeper), married a woman who was native and French Canadian, got divorced, and then came to Boston, was partners in a construction business, lost it during the depression, continued to work as a stonemason, hired two of my uncles, whose mom was a widow (German ancestry, from NYC), who asked him home to dinner, and my grandparents met. Got married, she had more kids (one was my mom).

by Anonymousreply 31July 11, 2025 2:54 AM

Another interesting thing about genealogy is seeing the cause of death on the death certificates. I’ve seen people killed in terrible accidents (one somehow involving a clothes iron) or who committed suicide (one purposely laying down on a railroad track).

by Anonymousreply 32July 11, 2025 2:58 AM

His brother moved to Chicago and some of his grandchildren and great grandchildren restore houses in Lake Forest and Oak Park, Ill.

by Anonymousreply 33July 11, 2025 3:00 AM

My story

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by Anonymousreply 34July 11, 2025 3:04 AM

I'll write more about my actual ancestry details once I dig into my files, but here's a tiny tangent - a story no one probably gives two shits about but I thought was kinda cool.

I used to live in the Midwest, in a larger city, and a block over, there was a guy who owned a bakery (and also lived on the same street). He was not "famous" but he was well known in that little neighborhood because of his various businesses, etc.

About 6-7 years ago I move from Big City to little resort town, and maybe two years after that I'm working on my family tree. (Had a lot of time on my hands during the pandemic!)

A lot of my early work was just trying to go back in the most direct way possible, but now I'm filling in some various parts of the tree. I went back to one set of great-great-great (I think) grandparents, who were maybe first generation born in America from German parents. Instead of just filling in my "line" - my direct ancestor of those grandparents - I started filling in details about all the other children those ancestors had, not just my great-great grandmother.

Of course, you probably already guessed that Bakery Dude, the guy who randomly ended up as my neighbor for a time, is a distant cousin (officially a 4th cousin, I think), a descendant of one of my great-great grandma's siblings. I never met him, as in shook his hand introduction, when I was living there (I mean, I'm a Fat Whore™ so you better believe I was at that bakery!) but it's just really cool to think about how connected we might be to people we don't know or haven't met.

by Anonymousreply 35July 11, 2025 4:23 AM

Any other Sicilians? I’m 1/4 but live in Flyoverstan. I feel like they don’t exist in those part of the world or at least don’t self identify that way. I feel like if I was in New York I’d find more people who would.

by Anonymousreply 36July 11, 2025 4:49 AM

We're from France.

by Anonymousreply 37July 11, 2025 4:51 AM

R5 under the new rules/incoming law, you could be eligible for a Canadian passport now!

by Anonymousreply 38July 11, 2025 6:25 AM

4th cousin. You don’t say! That’s not exactly meaningful. I would have a couple of hundred 4th cousins, or more.

by Anonymousreply 39July 11, 2025 6:31 AM

My mother's family settled in the 1660s in the Mid-Atlantic where most remain. My mother grew up on a farm that the family had owned from that time. With very few and recent exceptions, they married their neighbors.

My father was born in the U.S. to Irish immigrants, part of a wave of Irish immigration to Canada and the U.S. after WWII. Thanks to these relatives, I am Plastic Paddy (in one of its several definitions) in the that I was neither born nor raised in Ireland but acquired Irish citizenship by ancestry.

by Anonymousreply 40July 11, 2025 7:07 AM

...after WWI.

by Anonymousreply 41July 11, 2025 7:16 AM

Ah R40, lucky you to have acquired the Irish citizenship through the family. My great-grandfather came to the states from Ireland in 1880 - alas, I am one generation removed from acquiring the citizenship. If only my father had done so, but we really weren't a family who looked back and revelled in where grandparents and others were from.

I've done some of the work, we really aren't notable on either side; just immigrants who came to the states in the 19th century, settled in the greater NY area made a living and got on with life.

by Anonymousreply 42July 11, 2025 9:38 AM

“ What's your family immigration experience?”

We are descended from - and talk only to - God

by Anonymousreply 43July 11, 2025 10:03 AM

Well you still have to communicate with the Lodges in some way…as you all married each other.

by Anonymousreply 44July 11, 2025 10:10 AM

Forbeses

by Anonymousreply 45July 11, 2025 10:10 AM

Forbeshesh

by Anonymousreply 46July 11, 2025 11:33 AM

The first arrival with a variation of my last name was my 8th great-grandfather, who arrived in Philadelphia in 1716 also from the Palatinate in westernmost Germany (Bad Kreuznach). They moved to Germanna in central Virginia in 1731, then to the new state of Ohio in 1803 on a land grant given to Rev War veterans. Others on my father's side were in Plymouth in 1626 and a many-time great aunt was burned in Salem.

My paternal grandmother's family was also early arrivals; the most recent arrival was in the 1820s from Wales.

My mom's side of the family all arrived in the mid/late 1800s from England, Ireland, and Italy. All of my great and great-great grandparents arrived before Ellis Island.

My Ancestry/23 and Me DNA studies are pretty consistent with British Isles and Northern France predominant (with a small percentage of Scandinavia likely from Viking ancestry). I'm 23% Italian and 1% Cypriot thanks to the two great-grandparents from the Naples area.

One of my early colonial great-grandmothers was a Shakespeare (yes, that family), so fortunately that branch is very well researched. Other ancestors founded colonies in Hartford, CT and Newark, NJ.

There is one ancestor who I'd love to have a drink with and hear his stories. One great grandfather emigrated from Manchester, UK to Boston; he worked as an electrical lineman for the MTA by day and an electrician in Boston vaudeville halls at night. I have his IATSE pin. I'd love to hear his stories of 1890-1920s vaudeville. From what I've heard from my mother, this guy both loved to drink and talk.

by Anonymousreply 47July 11, 2025 11:37 AM

Potato famine Irish. Rise of (Protestant) nationalism Germans. Rural poverty English (unhappy with Catholic daughters-in-law but fuck 'em). Welsh coal miner who wandered Europe after a labor uprising. Mohawks who came over quite awhile ago.

by Anonymousreply 48July 11, 2025 11:41 AM

[quote]...alas, I am one generation removed from acquiring the citizenship. If only my father had done so, but we really weren't a family who looked back and revelled in where grandparents and others were from.

R42,yes, Irish citizenship by ancestry was a stroke of good luck in my case. I know more than a few people in your shoes, one generation too removed to qualify for Irish (or Italian) citizenship by ancestry.

I did it a decade ago with moving in mind, before or after retirement. In the meantime I married an EU citizen and we lived in the US briefly before moving to the EU. The Irish passport made everything very easy.

by Anonymousreply 49July 11, 2025 12:14 PM

Canada has the best possible plan, now coming into effect.

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by Anonymousreply 50July 11, 2025 12:30 PM

R39 Sure, I think most of us have hundreds, if not thousands of 4th cousins.

I just thought it was really something that somehow, we both ended up living a street away from each other in a city far away from where our ancestral family had started. It made that annoying "it's a small world" Disney song pop into my head. 😄

by Anonymousreply 51July 11, 2025 1:16 PM

I’m 25% way-way-old New England Yankee (Mayflower descendant, multiple 17th century settlers, etc). And 75% more recent Euro-mix immigrants, late 19th and early 20th century.

by Anonymousreply 52July 11, 2025 1:28 PM

No DAR for you!

by Anonymousreply 53July 11, 2025 1:49 PM

I think it is interesting to go back 3-4 generations, but more than that and you're just cherry-picking a line to investigate because there are so many branches to pursue at that point.

Just 4 generations back and you have 16 great-grandparents and their trees to choose from - that's a lot already and then it obviously multiplies with each further generation back.

People rarely investigate every line on both mother or father's side - usually because some of those tracks just stop at some point.

It's human nature to investigate the more interesting or the most documented side - but then people impose all of these qualities on the one or 2 sides they can track back far enough.

It is, by its nature, a selective and biased approach. I just wish people acknowledged that more often.

FUN FACT: I was very close with a co-worker on a project 20+ years ago - she worked in another dept in the company in another city. She was adopted and didn't know much about her roots. When I did 23andMe - guess who was my 2nd cousin? Yep - that co-worker.

by Anonymousreply 54July 11, 2025 2:30 PM

My mother's line were Prussian Germans who came over in the 1700s, shortly before the Revolutionary War. My father's line were all shanty-ass drunken Irish micks who staggered off the boat at Ellis Island in the early 1900s and most likely went straight to the nearest bar they could find in the city.

by Anonymousreply 55July 11, 2025 6:17 PM

So many Prussians. No wonder this place is a nightmare so often.

by Anonymousreply 56July 11, 2025 6:18 PM

Prussians are the high-class Germans.

by Anonymousreply 57July 11, 2025 6:20 PM

No, they are the most war-like Germans.

by Anonymousreply 58July 11, 2025 6:21 PM

Mine is easy. Both parents from Italy. 97% southwestern Italian, 3% from Greece/Eastern Mediterranean. That 3% is like two ancestors seven generations ago (5x great-grand parents or the equivalent mixed in).

by Anonymousreply 59July 11, 2025 6:52 PM

My 9th Great Grandfather Jan Aertson, is Anderson Cooper's 8th Great Grandfather. Anderson's Vanderbilt line became rich and famous, while mine became tavern owners in Brooklyn.

by Anonymousreply 60July 11, 2025 7:20 PM

r60 your ancestors probably kicked my drunken Irish ancestors out of your tavern after too many pints!

by Anonymousreply 61July 11, 2025 7:23 PM

Both sides of my family are Germans who got land grants from William Penn in the 1680s. There's a street the length of my hometown with my father's last name, another, smaller street with my mother's last name, and a small town in the south of my birth county with the name of one of my mother's side's ancestors. So yeah, we go waaaay back in PA.

And believe-it-or-not, I did the research (surprisingly easy if you're from PA) and I actually was a member of the DAR for two years before I quit last year. Almost all the women there were older than I and most were very wealthy (and they'd all married money). I did get to know some interesting women there, but I made no friends. Yes, they knew I was a lesbian. This was the crew who were OK with me being gay, but the whole trans thing freaked them out.

The only other liberal woman (who was younger than I) moved to rural Michigan with her husband; we didn't keep in touch.

But I sure learned how the other half (Trumpers with money) lives!

by Anonymousreply 62July 11, 2025 7:39 PM

My dad did a deep dive on ancestry.com. I’m a descendant of John Rolfe and Pocahontas on my moms fathers side. Also someone who came over with Oglethorpe and founded the Georgia colony. Mom’s mother’s side is a mix of Mennonites who came in the1799s and Canadian Métis who came in the 1859s. My dad came to this country from Germany in a business trip in the 50s and ended up staying .

by Anonymousreply 63July 11, 2025 7:56 PM

[quote] What if your ancestry is split though like [R2]? Would the lineage of the earliest arrivers take precedence? It seems like a logistical nightmare.

It seems like an exercise in vanity and exclusion. Please see R13.

by Anonymousreply 64July 11, 2025 9:03 PM

[quote] I’m a descendant of John Rolfe and Pocahontas on my moms fathers side.

They had a son, Thomas, who had a daughter Jane. Jane married Robert Bolling. Jane and Robert’s descendants are known as the “Red” Bollings. Robert later married another woman and their descendants are known as the “White” Bollings (so not related to Pocahontas). These are the accepted descendants of Robert Bolling.

One of Robert and Jane’s children was John, who also had a son named John. These are still down the Pocahontas line. The last John had a set of accepted children, so all Red Bollings. However, there are a set of Bollings that later descendants claim were also John’s children. If they were, all those descendants would be descendants of Pocahontas. Since they are not accepted as true children of John, all the descendants are called “”Blue” Bollings. Sadly, I’m in the Blue Bollings and likely not a real descendant of Pocahontas. It would have been nice those.

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by Anonymousreply 65July 11, 2025 9:04 PM

[quote] J.D. Vance, who believes that some Americans are more American than others.

How about the old lady? (No hate, no shade to the Mrs.)

by Anonymousreply 66July 11, 2025 9:41 PM

I have some ancestors (Pennsylvania Dutch, like many others on here) who have been in the US from the 1750s, and who probably participated in the Revolutionary War. They were German of course, but DNA says my family is 98% British/Irish with 2% southern European, so apparently the German genes became more and more washed out by intermarriage with English people over the centuries in Pennsylvania. You're down to 1.5 % contribution from any one source after only 6 generations. (50%, 25%, 12.5 %, 6.25%, 3.12%, 1.5%)

My surname comes from an English branch from York that arrived in Virginia in the 1780s. (Just after the conclusion of the Revolutionary war). They became the hillbilly branch, living in the Appalachians. One of my ancestors was a Hatfield of the Hatfield/McCoy feud, so that says it all. Many first cousins marrying first cousins. Yikes. My great grandmother took back her maiden name and gave it to her children after driving the father off. There's speculation that that happened because of a family feud and she wanted to avoid retribution to her children.

Another English family came to the US in the 1600s and settled in Connecticut. We had no contact with that branch, because my great grandfather on that side died before the birth of my grandmother. Only much later did an amateur genealogist from that side contact me via internet and gave me some background on that branch.

All of those disparate families from different areas emigrated to Montana between 1870 and 1900.

My mom's parents were both born in Ireland. One came from what is now Northern Ireland, and the other from the southwest coast. My grandmother was originally supposed to sail on the Titanic to the US, but delayed her passage for 2 weeks and ended up on the Franconia. My grandfather was born shortly after the civil war and emigrated to Iowa when he was a very small child. The Irish grandparents also ended up in Montana, one around 1900, the other after 1912. And that's where my parents met.

So a mix of distant and recent immigration, probably like most.

by Anonymousreply 67July 11, 2025 10:05 PM

[quote] Mine is easy. Both parents from Italy. 97% southwestern Italian

Do you have a fat cock, Dustin?

by Anonymousreply 68July 11, 2025 10:08 PM

[quote] Prussians are the high-class Germans.

Then why did so many of them feel the need to come to America?

by Anonymousreply 69July 11, 2025 10:10 PM

R69 World War I was on the horizon. Many countries we know today didn’t exist at that point. There was no Poland. If you didn’t leave you were likely to be conscripted into whatever army got ahold of you.

by Anonymousreply 70July 11, 2025 10:29 PM

There was a concept of Poland, just not an independent state at that point.

by Anonymousreply 71July 11, 2025 10:33 PM

I know that my father's side came from Latvia and my mother's was from Russia but we don't have enough info about them beyond 3 generations. It frustrates me to see that so many people have so much info about their ancestors and we can't find much at all.

by Anonymousreply 72July 11, 2025 10:57 PM

[quote]Do you have a fat cock, Dustin?

Absolutely.

by Anonymousreply 73July 11, 2025 11:00 PM

Thanks, R70. I was just being snarky. I figured that there was some historical reason.

by Anonymousreply 74July 11, 2025 11:03 PM

One of my great, great, great grandpas on my dad’s side had a shit ton of kids. He had a family in Canada and abandoned them. Then he went to the Us and had a whole bunch of other kids.

by Anonymousreply 75July 11, 2025 11:05 PM

R69, even the most “high-class” countries had substantial underclasses. Prussia was at least as class-stratified as the U.K. Plenty of people who came to the U.S. from there were peasants, my own ancestors included. They wanted opportunities that they were never get in Europe.

by Anonymousreply 76July 11, 2025 11:22 PM

R69, I have a great-great grandfather from Germany who, who like the earlier Prussians, left to evade the draft. Or, as my grandmother said, "avoided conscription."

The various principalities in the now German region, along with attacking each other, were also often at odds over religion. Some of the the earlier Prussians were fleeing religious persecution as well as the "warring" factions of Christians trying to dominate. For example, there was the "The Thirty Years War (1618–1648), one of the most destructive conflicts in European history, played out primarily in German lands, but involved most of the countries of Europe. It was to some extent a religious conflict, involving both Protestants and Catholics." Many people of the region headed to the Colonies during that time, early members of my own family included.

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by Anonymousreply 77July 12, 2025 12:23 AM

R77 = Barron Trump

by Anonymousreply 78July 12, 2025 12:32 AM

The Irish grandfather left Ireland to escape gambling debts.

by Anonymousreply 79July 12, 2025 12:34 AM

My mother's family came across on the Mayflower. My father's family came over before the revolution, and fought in that war. One of my forebears fought and died in the Battle of Ticonderoga. Both families settled in the Massachusetts area until the westward expansion brought them to Kansas and California. Happy to say they missed the Civil War entirely. No slaveholders. Nobody famous.

by Anonymousreply 80July 12, 2025 1:21 AM

Speaking of ancestry, a few years ago I started a thread about my uncle who committed suicide in the 80s (?). I wanted to update the thread but it's too old and closed.

He's listed by the military as dying in 2011. There isn't an obituary for either decade. I have submitted a FOI request with the military.

In searching for information about him I stumbled onto a treasure trove of information about my grandparents. I found out my Nana's maiden name. I found a bunch of documents from the Holocaust Survivors and Victims database that are intriguing, I wish I could read German. What I can gather is, they (mostly my grandfather, my Nana by association) were interviewed and denied... something by the review board at Geneva as my grandfather's documents for the entirety of WWII were forged. 'Petitioner is not within the mandate of the organization' 'However, in the opinion of the board, the petioner gives the impression of attempting to conceal certain of wartime activities, which if known, would exclude him from the mandate'

by Anonymousreply 81July 12, 2025 2:05 AM

[quote] I found a bunch of documents from the Holocaust Survivors and Victims database that are intriguing, I wish I could read German.

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by Anonymousreply 82July 12, 2025 2:34 AM

My maternal grandmother was from a Quaker family in Indiana, by way of Virginia & North Carolina. The earliest of her ancestors arrived in Jamestown (from England) in 1623, at age 24, on a ship named Diana. He wasn't a Quaker (obviously) but his son married one of the first known converts to Quakerism in Virginia (1659) and converted shortly thereafter. Her parents were French Huguenots, who had immigrated to Holland, and then England, before arriving in Virginia around 1835. Within 2-3 generations, everyone in my maternal grandmother's tree was Quaker (you can tell because all the birth/marriage/death dates are from the records of Friends' meetings).

My maternal grandfather was German, British & Dutch. The earliest of his British ancestors arrived in 1676 (in Maryland), the earliest of his German ancestors arrived prior to 1727 (also in Maryland).

My father's tree is ALL Irish. All of his great-grandparents were born in Ireland, arriving in the U.S. between 1841-1863. Settled in Brooklyn & the Hudson River Valley.

by Anonymousreply 83July 12, 2025 2:35 AM

[quote] Her parents were French Huguenots, who had immigrated to Holland, and then England, before arriving in Virginia around 1835.

TYPO -- that should should have read 1635.

by Anonymousreply 84July 12, 2025 2:37 AM

r82, a lot of it is handwritten but I will definitely give it a shot - thanks!

by Anonymousreply 85July 12, 2025 2:40 AM

I was born in the wagon of a travelin' show My mama used to dance for the money they'd throw Papa would do whatever he could Preach a little gospel, sell a couple bottles of Doctor Good

by Anonymousreply 86July 12, 2025 2:49 AM

My paternal grandfather immigrated to the U.S. from Liverpool England at the age of 18. In order to get U.S. citizenship he had to enlist to fight in the Spanish American war. I have his medals.

His English family disowned him for this. He died in the swine flu epidemic of 1918. His son, my Dad, was 6 months old.

It's weird, from photos I look more like him than I do my Dad.

by Anonymousreply 87July 12, 2025 2:57 AM

Of my 32 sixth-great grandparents (late 17th/early 18th CC), only two were not born in what is now the US. My DNA says I’m 93% British Isles, 6% Northwestern Europe, and traces of others. That tracks given the known immigration records of my ancestors. The earliest generations were in Massachusetts, Maryland, and Virginia. Over the next generations, they made their way westward through New York, Pennsylvania, and Ohio where I’m from. The early 19th C. immigrants were from Baden Württemburg. The lot of the English early settlers were merchant class and craftsman types. I don’t know how the hell I’m so poor.

by Anonymousreply 88July 12, 2025 3:21 AM

Does everyone in the US do their DNA analysis? I think Americans tend to buy into that melting pot business about all Americans being a Heinz 57 mix, descended in an unbroken line from: a freed slave, a plantation owner, a Prussian officer in the Revolutionary war, an Italian immigrant whose name was simplified by Ellis Island staff, Pennsylvania Dutch hex sign artists,a quarter-Cherokee great grandmother, French Huguenots, Grandma Moses, Norwegian bachelor farmers, a Holocaust survivor, Alfred the Great, Charlie Chaplin, Pocahontas, and Cleopatra.

by Anonymousreply 89July 12, 2025 3:43 AM

R89 I’m R2 and I have done a DNA test as well as built out my family tree. I am definitely a “Heinz 57” variety, although my DNA shows larger chunks from certain regions (England, Russia/Ukraine, Germany, and Sweden are the most substantial)—but I also have small amounts of French, Latvian, Portuguese as well. I actually don’t show as having Ashkenazi Jewish DNA, but my mom and uncle do. I frankly don’t think it’s a myth that many Americans have significantly mixed DNA/lineages given the amount of people who have come here from all over the world and intermixed. I would say it’s probably rarer now for the average American to be a “pure blood” anything (or close to it) than to have a variety of genetic origins.

by Anonymousreply 90July 12, 2025 4:08 AM

…. it’s probably rarer now for the average American to be a “pure blood” anything (or close to it) than to have a variety of genetic origins.

To this point: my grandfather was the 8th generation, going back to the 1640s, of 100% percent French without any intermarriage. In Quebec they are called pure laine.

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by Anonymousreply 91July 12, 2025 4:43 AM

We all have over 1000000 15th great grandparents. Most all white people are a descendant of Charlamange.

by Anonymousreply 92July 12, 2025 5:15 AM

For me I’ve always been interested in my ancestry because I’ve always been interested in history. It’s also interesting to think about where your ancestors came from and how it has shaped who you are. I also think it’s really cool that snap can be used to help solve crimes or identify Jane and John Does.

by Anonymousreply 93July 12, 2025 5:19 AM

R92 or someone else in the 9th c. who procreated.

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by Anonymousreply 94July 12, 2025 5:30 AM

Not suprising at all that all these old queens are English/German.

by Anonymousreply 95July 12, 2025 6:13 AM
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