King Charles' Funeral Plans Reportedly Include 'Prominent Roles' For Harry And Meghan

Provisions have also been made to ensure that Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet are included in the service at the Abbey, as well as the committal ceremony at St George's Chapel in Windsor, should they choose to attend.

Though there is no indication that the King's health is a cause for concern or that his reign is nearing its end, planning for major royal ceremonies, including funerals, is typically done many years in advance.

These plans are shaped and refined over time through detailed discussions with senior royal aides, security officials, military leaders, and representatives of the church.

The King's funeral will follow the framework established under Operation London Bridge, the same codename used for previous monarchs. However, Charles has made several personal adjustments to reflect his own beliefs and values.

Notably, his deep commitment to environmental causes will be acknowledged through the inclusion of eco-conscious, sustainable elements throughout the ceremony, where possible.

Another key change lies in the mourning period. Unlike Elizabeth II's funeral, where royal mourning continued for a week beyond the service, Charles has reportedly opted to align the royal mourning period with the national one.

This will begin at the moment of his passing and conclude on the day of the funeral, expected to be held 10 or 11 days later.

As with all major royal events, thorough logistical planning is already in place to prepare for every possible scenario surrounding the King's passing, including the location of his death.

Protocols have been carefully outlined to ensure that, wherever the King may be, his coffin can be transported with dignity and precision back to Buckingham Palace.

Still, Palace aides have emphasized that the "King's funeral plans had not been finalized and cautioned against speculation," noting that the funeral plans remain subject to change and refinement over time.

No thank you.

We're good.

Speak for yourself, Harry!!!!

So Charles wants to include Harry and Meghan and their kids, only AFTER he's dead, and not while he's alive?

That's idiotic.

The time to reconcile with family is now, and not wait until you're dead.

Clearly, he's not serious about reconciliation.

He just wants Harry and Meghan to attend his funeral, out of tradition and protocol. Because it's what's "expected."

Harry and Meghan must refuse to attend.

They are just being used by the monarchy, to adhere to tradition. But in reality, the BRF gives zero fucks about them, and they will be stripped of their titles and tossed aside, when William becomes King.

Don't fall for it, Harry!

Charles was very close to Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, yet he was also determined to maintain friendship with the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, despite the QM's spite against the couple. So I can see him wanting to heal relations with his son and daughter-in-law.

Meghan will probably call Ticketmaster and set up an account to scalp as many tickets as possible. Everything is cash to her.

This is a load of shit.

It's standard procedure for the late monarch's children to be included in the funeral. It would be news if the monarch went out of their way to deliberately exclude any of their children.

This is Harry's bargaining chip.

He can demand reconciliation now, or he won't attend Charles' funeral.

Do you know how BAD it would look, if the son of the monarch skipped his own father's funeral???

Not to mention, he won't be acknowledging William's new role as King, either.

That's a HUGE bargaining chip, and one that Harry can use right now.

Either reconcile with me now, or I won't be attending your funeral.

Harry still has some leverage.

R8, if Harry wants any part of KC's estate, he would do well to keep quiet.

[quote] if Harry wants any part of KC's estate, he would do well to keep quiet.

Oh, please. Why should Harry care about that?

It's all going to William, anyway.

I highly doubt Charles will leave anything to Harry. He won't even speak to Harry, for fuck's sake.

I can imagine Charles will set up trust funds for Charlotte, Louise, Archie, and Lilibet, since George will come into the Duchy of Cornwall in time.

It really isn't, R8. Everyone would heave a sigh of relief if he wasn't there.

BUT AFTER THE FUNERAL, they hie on back to Cali-forn-I- A.

Looks like it's going to take something really big to get William and Harry back together and their father's death may just be it.

I suspect the Royals would much prefer them not being there, as do most people. It is very odd that Charles has nothing to do with them now yet thinks nothing of putting his family through the ordeal of his funeral with them around.

[quote]Clearly, he's not serious about reconciliation.

News flash: Hon, that's exactly correct, and exactly what the BRF want - they want nothing to do with H&M, as they are proven liars and not to be trusted now, nor ever.

Oh, and the OP article is utter speculation and unsubstantiated. Fodder for the fraus, and content for the 'journalist'

Their father's death and their shared hatred of Camilla.

I reported here about William stripping the Royal title from one of Camilla's grandsons for bullying Prince George. Now he's reportedly stripped the title from one of her granddaughters for bullying Princess Charlotte. Seems Camilla's grandkids are a bunch of thugs.

R17, what "Royal title" would Camilla's grandchildren have? They aren't in the line of succession.

The monarch generally makes substantial provision for her or his children who won't be the monarch. Diana's resources were relatively limited.

I do wish William would get it that he will need assistance in carrying out royal duties in the future. The Princess Royal is a workhorse but she is nearly 80. The Wessexes should have some understanding of trying to go out one's own but returning to the royal teet and fold.

Youtube videos of Harry and Meghan at various Westminster Abbey services shortly before leaving suggest that she loved sitting in the second row surrounded by the royals. I can't imagine she wouldn't lung at at invite to return.

The ball has always been in William's court, and the fact is that William is unforgiving.

He doesn't want reconciliation, and he will never forgive Harry.

When that is your starting point, then negotiations and reconciliation is impossible.

You can't reconcile, when you declare that someone is "dead to me."

That's why Harry shouldn't bother. It will never happen.

In honor of the ancient Indian custom of sati, both will be thrown kicking and screaming onto the funeral pyre.

In other words: “Harry will be welcomed back over my dead body.”

R17, there is nothing official at all re your claim, only YouTube videos from some randos. Please provide proof that this happened, and don’t tell me to google it myself, that’s what I did.

As far as I know, no one in Camilla’s family has any royal titles.

In honor of the ancient Indian custom of sati, both will be thrown kicking and screaming onto the funeral pyre.

They are going to be chauffeurs.

We will see them prominently opening doors for royals in good standing.

If in the future Megan and Harry divorce, I think that that might be a prerequisite for William and Harry to reconcile.

R17 How did Camilla’s grandchildren have royal titles? They’re not royal.

This sounds like bullshit

Laughing at the idea of Camilla’s grandkids having Royal Titles. HRH Duke of SecondWife FirstHusbandson?

Harry talks about reconciliation, but he means on his terms - some sort of public apology, acceptance of his half in/half out status and a huge wodge of continuously flowing cash, none of which he is going to get for obvious reasons.

R17 posted the same claim on another thread and was challenged there as well, and conveniently disappeared.

The only thing I can find Googling about Camilla's grandkids is that they served as pages during the Coronation ceremony. That doesn't make them Royal.

Of course, the Montecito branch of the Mountbatten-Windsors will be among the mourners at Charles' funeral. It's his son and grandchildren. Charles' cancer may be more manageable than curable at this point, but if they are planning for Harry's children to have roles like Queen Elizabeth's grandchildren did at her lying in state, then this is still a few years away. They're still little kids, who are six and four. If he were to die tomorrow, you'd probably only see them briefly paying respects. You cannot expect children that young to sit patiently through a funeral service.

[quote] The only thing I can find Googling about Camilla's grandkids is that they served as pages during the Coronation ceremony. That doesn't make them Royal.

Rose Hanbury's boys were also pages. *sinister smile*

Hopefully Harry will have divorced his wife and reconciled with the family back home.

Harry will crawl on broken glass if it means his brother will soften his attitude. It is probably completely unrealistic to think Harry would ever return to anything resembling Royal duties once William is king, but William will hold the whip hand insofar as distributing the inheritance to all who are impacted.. I think the most Camilla can hope for is to live in peace at which ever estate she chooses. I am sure, knowing William's vindictive nature, Charles will do something to provide for Camilla and for Harry and his family. For all we know maybe Charles will purchase and g ift some estate to HArry along with a Trust to administer it. Something Will could not undo. The Palace is working very hard to improve William's image and soften it, but it is an uphill struggle. William should thank his lucky stars he has Katherine. She is the absolutely most popular member of the RF right along side Anne.

[quote] I reported here about William stripping the Royal title from one of Camilla's grandsons for bullying Prince George. Now he's reportedly stripped the title from one of her granddaughters for bullying Princess Charlotte.

There's so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin. But here we go:

Camilla's grandchildren do not have titles at all, much less royal ones. (Nor do her children, for that matter.)

Even King Charles could not strip away royal titles from anyone. Royal titles can only be stripped away by Act of Parliament.

William could not even put forward to Parliament a request that they strip away anyone's titles.

Of course Charles has to invite Harry to have a role in his funeral. It would look horrible if he didn't.

Harry will probably attend, because it would look horrible for him if he didn't. But he'll probably leave the kids at home with their mom to protect their privacy. Meghan doesn't want to a big event where she will be second banana. And the kids...well they don't even know their granddad anyway.

What nonsense! Funeral plans for any English King -- or Queen Regent -- have long been laid out. Note this one, really no special provisions for Harry and Megan and the kids. The King is dead. His heir and family will participate. So will his first son and now King, and his second son and family, which is standard in any family of two sons. . The King's sister & family will participate, as will his nephew and cousins. There is nothing specia laid outl for Harry. He will just be there. IF present life goes on and the estrangement of Harry, inflicted on himself, goes on and on, he may choose to not attend his father's funeral. No drama. Just not go and best to keep his mouth shut. Things happen in families.

It would be hilarious if they got there, and the prominent roles where to act as ushers, and handout memorial cards to the guests.

Is he on his way out then?

J like the valet job suggeztion. Or cloakroom clerks.

Meghan's role will be to calligraph banana-grams of condolence to be given to all the most important guests.

"Sorry he's dead!"

"You look great in black!"

"Cherish the memories!"

Will it be an authentic funeral?

I know people will make fun of him, but I've always known Charles as the awkward Prince, who has struggled to live up to his heirdom. I would like for Charles to face his own future with some sense of satisfaction, so I think both William and Harry need to get their carts behind his horse, and try to carry on in dignity. I doubt that will happen, sad to me, I guess. I remember Charles as a young man.

R44 I agree! I too remember Charles. Always had a soft spot for him. Fell out with him briefly because I was fond of Diana, but Charles regained my affections and I will even go so far as to say Camilla has done a good job as Queen. I think they're both a hot mess. They make me smile.

Charles has nothing to do with Harry while he's alive because Harry cannot be trusted, and any conversation between the two will end up on so TV interview or podcast. Charles does not want that.

Harry and the kids may have a role in Charles' funeral simple because of protocol and Harry is family. Meghan will be included simply because she is married to Harry--not because of of any affection toward her.

But when all is said and done, what matters is what happens following the funeral--and William has no time or space in his heart for the Montecito Markles. That will be the end of the road regarding the estranged members. William's final act toward the Markles will be to remove the HRH style from all four of them. And then we all can say a final goodbye. William and Kate will be king and queen. Their kids will be working members of the royal family and no one will have contact with California. It will be over.

But Datalounge will still report on them incessantly.

And Charles couldn't talk to Harry recently without causing a constitutional crisis, Harry had filed a lawsuit against his father's government over his security. Charles rightfully had to stay out of it.

It's cute that you think Harry has any sort of bargaining chips to play. He and his harridan are loathed in the UK. No one knows or cares about the kids.

Get her off the stage!

They plan to bury them with Charles, like the Egyptians did with their servants.

As I look back on it now I wish Elizabeth II had stepped down sooner. She never put a foot wrong. We gave her way too much credit and invested a lot in her behavior. That's why I so enjoy Charles. He is everything his mother was not.

Anybody else picturing Megs pulling a Doris Finseckers mother on Fame ? "We're in Harry ! We're in" !

[quote] posted the same claim on another thread and was challenged there as well, and conveniently disappeared.

Look sauce pot, I just reported what I read. If I'm proven wrong, so be it.

The Duchess of Sussex: "And now, Archie and Lilibet will sing in his honor the beloved #1 hit tune "Grandad," even though they could never meet their grandad, who was always 'too busy,' they told us."

R32 is that a cadet branch, as WIKI always cites where applicable?

As King Charles' coffin is lowered into the crypt of St. George's, a Highlander will pipe "Brand New Day" while the Duchess of Sussex is catapulted over the castle walls and into the Thames to cheers of joy from the gathered throngs. A prefect ending to a thoroughly miserable but mercifully short reign.

Sauce pot?? Well, I never!

Too bad the monarch in early twenty-first century cannot act like his predecessors, the Tudors and the early Stuarts.

Just imagine Harry, Meghan, and the kids disembark at Heathrow, and the parents are immediately thrown into the Tower to remain there at the king's pleasure. The children become wards of the Crown. When they are of age, neither can marry without their Uncle's consent. If they do so without his consent, they end up in the Tower too.

"And now, Archie and Lilibet will sing in his honor the beloved #1 hit tune "Grandad," even though they could never meet their grandad, who was always 'too busy,' they told us."

This is the most awkward part of their relationship.

Doesn't anyone find it even the least bit strange that Charles has never met two of his grandkids?

The Christening doesn't count, because Archie was just born.

I mean, think about it: THE KING has never met his son's children!! How fucking weird is that?

So then, why would they even attend his funeral?

They are complete strangers to each other.

Bizarre mistake by the Harkles. Charles isn't going to miss grandchildren he's never bonded with . I imagine they thought withholding access would help them, but it just ensured there was no emotional link to utilise or exploit

Maybe Meggs could break the Lord Chamberlin's rod for him?

[quote]Laughing at the idea of Camilla’s grandkids having Royal Titles.

Laughing at the idea one of them tried to bully Princess Charlotte. If there ever was a tyke who looked like she might have a secret shiv, it's that one.

I don't think they withheld access. I think Harry was concerned about security and he had a right to be. First of all he is a very high profile person. He can't hide in anonymity. Secondly, he is a veteran of the Afghan war and a target for extremists. And Charles ought to know that. Charles whose beloved Uncle Dickie Mountbatten was killed by terrorists from the IRA in a boating explosion. Members of the Royal Family in general are always targets. And it's as if Charles is allowing Harry to be "bait" in some ways, although maybe unconsciously. Charles was wounded by what Harry said about Camilla. I get it. But I read the fucking book and nothing in that book justified the reaction it got from the British tabloids and the family. Harry has show an incredible lacking of judgement by discussing private conversations in public so I get it that the family, in general has a lack of trust in socializing since t hey have no idea what will come out of his mouth. But at some point there needs to be some form of reconciliation and it is on them as much as it is on him. It is definitely bizarre that Charles has these two beautiful little grandchildren he has never met and it's as much his fault as it is theirs. Maybe they do FaceTime video conferencing but it is not the same. I remember back when Elizabeth was alive how she used to make secret visits to America to go to horse breeding farms in America to buy and breed horses. It rarely got out that the Queen was in town. I was hoping Charles would do the same and pop over to California. But I doubt that would ever happen. If Charles were to die and things remain as they are, then why bother t o put Harry's kids through all that. They don't know these people, and they have no familiarity with the country. None.

R64 Go out and buy yourself a journal.

A journal would be best, to keep all those uninformed conclusions his special secret.

R64 is right.

And R65/R66 is just being a cunt.

Ludicrous Team Harkles garbage at R65. He'd have all the security he wants if he applied for it in advance and it was part of a visit to his family. That wasn't what his bonkers legal case against the UK government was about. That has never been an issue. The idea that the elderly Charles, in the short period he's been king and while battling cancer was going to just pop over uninvited to spend an hour with his grandkids is frankly deranged

Actually Charles is planning a state visit to the USA in 2025 to celebrate the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

R64, he was demanding security beyond that which former prime ministers get.

Do I blame them for decamping? No. She is an American, who is better educated than her husband and had a reasonably successful career. Who would expect her to fall in line in regards to hereditary rights and protocol? Playing second fiddle to her husband's older brother and his wife? No way in hell.

He could offer nothing to the world except an insider's view to this institution that comes before family. So, he did. And in the process he reveals them to be a petty, jealous lot. A remark about a child's looks becomes racist. His gripes should have remained private, but he has nothing else to offer the world. The book also shows that he fails to take responsibility for his own actions. He blames everyone else but himself.

[quote] Who would expect her to fall in line in regards to hereditary rights and protocol? Playing second fiddle to her husband's older brother and his wife? No way in hell.

How could she have married him without knowing what she would be in for? Other intelligent women have been in very serious relationships with Harry before and dumped him because they realized they would not be happy being the wife of the heir's brother. Meghan knew full well what she was getting into when she married him.

R69 a year early? Sounds like something an idiot would do, or claim.

"The book also shows that he fails to take responsibility for his own actions. He blames everyone else but himself." LOL! It's genetic. None of the RF do.

R64, no one has to “reconcile” with a family member who they do not like.

Harkle supporters keep asserting it 'looks bad' for the Royal Family not to reconcile with them, but to who? Certainly not the population of the UK - the ones whose opinion actually counts

Only Harry will be invited to the funeral. No invitation will be issued to Meghan/kids and she will make up some face-saving excuse as to why she cannot come. Harry is rightfully dead to William and the closest he will get to the new king and his family is a seat on the other side of the aisle at WA. None of the nonsense that went on following the late Queen's death will happen under William.

Harry is dull, druggie, stalkerish trash and I love that William decisively cut ties. I don't wish Charles dead, but I look forward to all of the inventive ways the courtiers and media diminish Harry's presence. Previously it was cold shoulders and turned backs from the entire family, the feather in Anne's cap, a candle, a column...what will they think of next time? Afterwards, I hope they promptly take him to Heathrow, put him on a BA and then forever wipe his presence from the royal website.

R71, I don't think she realized the extent of it. Americans don't. I could see an American woman of an earlier time, like Grace Kelly, giving it all up to remain beside her Prince. Princess Grace was also the big fish in the small pond. And the British media played her, the dimwitted prince, his bother and his wife as the Fab Four...the leaders of the new generation of Royals. And Meghan is an actress who craves and buys into media attention. Then she discovers it's a life in a gilded cage. You're expected to promote charities, visit towns, but don't ever outshine the elder brother, his wife, the father-in-law, his wife, and especially not the Grandmother. And you have to bow and scrape to all these people. And then, even the children of the elder brother will have precedence over you or any children you might have. I'd hightail it out of there at the first opportunity presenting itself.

The Royal Funeral would be bumped off the headlines if the Duchess of Sussex had a "tragic, urgent health crisis" in Montecito and couldn't travel.

"The Sussexes" Heartbreaking Baby Bump Loss!"

[quote] I don't think she realized the extent of it.

Well then that's on her. All this 'I didn't really know who he was' is verbal diarrhea on her part. She very intently began here search to marry a rich Brit, and when her fried proffered up Harry, she was blinded with thirst to be a 'princess' and 'famous' and 'rich'. She likely was reminded of 'duty' but only gave it a moments thought to duty but quickly dismissed it in favor of her perceived Disney characterizations of being a Princess. She also never planned to actually stay in London and become a working Royal, no. she'd stay just long enough to get the whole half-in-half-out thingy worked out before absconding with the dumb Prince to America where they would be breathlessly celebrated and make oodles upon oodles of money! She had this all planned in her mind the first night after meeting Harry you can be sure.

How's that all working out for you now Meg?

As it should be. It's the decent thing to do.

[quote] Well then that's on her. All this 'I didn't really know who he was' is verbal diarrhea on her part.

I agree, R79. Meghan had to be absolutely dumb not to know who he was. But did she know that she or her husband needed to go through private secretaries to talk or to see his father or grandmother? That she needed to curtsy (and that over-the-top curtsy poked fun at the very people she needed to impress) before greeting them even in private? I don't think she understood how weird and stage managed their lives would be.

Sure, Meghan wants the limelight. She's an actress. Who was it that said that Meghan undoubtedly thought being a princess was all about carriage rides? Princess Margaret's friend?

The Queen told Meghan that she could continue acting. Meghan declined and said that she was ready to hit the ground running and to work for the RF. So yes, expecting her to understand protocol is not an absurd notion. Plus, only an idiot would believe that Meghan had no idea who Harry was or knew what she was marrying into.

Meghan's best friend from childhood said Meghan was obsessed with Diana. She read books on Diana and even visited BP. She knew who Harry was and even supposedly wore Diana's favorite perfume on their first date. Meghan lies like a rug and her innocent act was simply that, an act.

R8 = HRH Mrs. Henry Sussex of Montecito, CA

In essence, the Queen told her, "Don't quit your day job. And isn't that in America?" Meghan didn't take the hint.

What happens when Kate dies soon too? When was the last widower king?

So many of the K-grannies oy show up to chew over old QAnon crap like cabbage with false teeth.

Same old same old stories.

It will be interesting to see what really happens.

I have a friend who is a big fan of the royal family. She follows all the philanthropic stuff, and she kept an open mind about Meghan until it became apparent to her that Meghan was a user of narcissist, and she feels that Harry and Meghan are con artists and they don’t deserve the royal titles.

I can’t talk to her about them anymore because I try to point out that Harry and Meghan will always be able to squeeze another dime out of their and fame or information thru their connection to the royal family whether their titles are taken away or not they’ll do Dancing with the Stars they’ll do Survivor, they’ll do reality shows — anything to make a buck when the Netflix funds run out.

I try to point out that the royal family or no sense in this they hid Andrew‘s proclivities, they didn’t handle Diana‘s death well where it took the queen a week to say something about their mother. I agree that Meghan said a lot of things in interviews that no one‘s tripped her up on Lying about the official marriage and I don’t really believe that she had no idea who Harry was when she met him

Harry and Meghan rarely, if ever show photos of their children, prompting my friend to believe that they don’t exist, and I said well, if they were constantly putting them online and on social, they’d be criticized for exposing them capitalizing on them, but once people turn against Harry and Meghan there’s no changing their minds

^

Or no sense = are not innocent

How much does it pay? Can we bring Oprah's camera crew?

[quote]What happens when Kate dies soon too?

There is no indication she will die soon. Her cancer is in remission.

If she does die, William can remarry, and his new wife would be queen when he becomes king (or will isntantly become queen if he is already king)

[quote]When was the last widower king?

George II. His wife, Caroline of Brunswick, died in the early part of his reign; he stayed on the throne for another 23 years after her death in 1737. He never remarried, and he loved her so much that when he died he planned for his tomb be placed next to hers and the divider between them be removed so their remains could mingle.

R91 He stayed on the throne for another 23 years? Boy, his legs must've fallen asleep!

[quote]Meghan's best friend from childhood said Meghan was obsessed with Diana. She read books on Diana and even visited BP. She knew who Harry was and even supposedly wore Diana's favorite perfume on their first date.

Me too!

On her deathbed Caroline begged him to remarry. No, no! He sobbed 'I will only have mistresses'. There's devotion for you

Actually George IV's estranged wife Caroline of Brunswick died shortly after he became king, so technically he was the last widower king

George III was also a widower king.

In fact all the Georges were. George I's imprisoned wife Sophia Dorothea of Celle predeceased him. Her son George II was intending to release and rehabilitate her if his father died first

[quote] There is no indication she will die soon. Her cancer is in remission

Sure, Jan. Tell us another.

[quote] George III was also a widower king.

[quote] In fact all the Georges were.

Luckily, I won't have to worry about that sort of nonsense.

Just a few more hours and the fat old right wing Brexit ladies will be awake and doling out their FFs as if they own the place. See you all in two days.

They make Coronation Street characters look like nobility.