Accessible porn is DEAD to me! Supreme Court allows states to require age verification

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Can New York State require age verification to access Fox News?

Kagan's dissent is a masterful.

How much better can this day be for the GOP? The second big win for the GOP today from the SC . And it’s not even noon yet.

This is why losing sucks and winning is the only thing that counts.

Did she include pictures?

It’s cute that they don’t know what this thing called “VPN” is.

The New York Times reports that 75% of Democrats support states being able to require websites to verify user ages.

This does not look like a hill that even Democrats will die on.

All the Democratic justices dissented and rightfully so.

Not all doom and gloom...

I will fight to the death your right to post pornography on Datalounge!

I will deny you an edit function, or any other modern feature of a social interactive website. But the porn, you will be able to see that. Except sometimes you will have to click on the link because I cannot enable the thumbnail to be presented as this website operates on Wordpress 2000.

DL and age verification. Yes I think we could all make a good argument as to why children should never be able to post and read on the DL. A compelling argument.

Pictures of pussies,, dicks, fucking, sucking, stories of great weekends of PnP and no condoms.

Adults only, bitches.

Pron kills.

Just the models, R13.

FUCK YOU r14

It's laughable that the SCOTUS thinks this will have any effect on keeping children from viewing pron. The only thing age verification does is put your credentials on the internet for thieves, con men and criminals to exploit... and with Elon stealing all of our data, Palantir creating a massive database of every American, and now the SCOTUS chipping away at the last aspects of our privacy, you'd be a fool to provide a direct and verifiable link between yourself and whatever pron site you're stupid enough to give it to.

If there has ever been a case exposing the SCOTUS for the luddites that they are, this is it.

From Kagan's masterful dissent: The majority tries to escape that conclusion with a maneuver found nowhere in the world of First Amendment doctrine. It turns out, the majority says, that the First Amendment only “partially protects” the speech in question: The “speech is unprotected to the extent the State seeks only to verify age.” Ante, at 18, 29, n. 12 (emphasis deleted); see ante, at 28 (the speech is “unprotected to the extent that the State imposes only an age-verification requirement”). Meaning, the speech is unprotected to the extent that the State is imposing the very burden under review. Or said another way, the right of adults to view the speech has the burden of age verification built right in. That is convenient, if altogether circular. In the end, the majority’s analysis reduces to this: Requiring age verification does not directly burden adults’ speech rights because adults have no right to be free from the burden of age verification. Gerrymander the right to incorporate the burden, and the critical conclusion follows. If only other First Amendment cases were so easy!

France: “Hold my beer”

Another issue not to die on. Dems could have supported it, lost little if any support and came across as family friendly. Of course , it’s all stupid and meaningless but so what.

So you want the Dems to be just like the GOP, R19? And then what... you're screaming "THE PARTIES ALL THE SAME!"

Democrat voters already support this.

The effect of this ruling is that it makes porn even more desirable and sought out. When you tell people they cannot watch something, that's what they want to watch. The SCOTUS did pornographers and VPN companies a great service this morning; making their product harder to get = increased desire to get it = more profit in porn.

France is Pornhub's second biggest market, after the US. Who knew?

I don’t really know where Dems should go. They want to keep firing up the base and fighting Trump. But some of the Dem cultural positions are unpopular and cost elections.

PORN??!!! When did I watch PORN??!!!!!!

It is irrelevant to the vast majority of people, including the vast majority of Democrats. It would have been stupid for the party to take an official position because either way it is a loser. This is not the First Amendment hill to die upon. Let the Republicans [italic]own[/italic] this issue.. You think young men are going to like this ruling? Why give them another reason to hate the Dems?

Trump's rubber-stamp Supreme Court strikes again.

It doesn't really matter -- AI porn will be here and better than the porn out there now before you know it.

[quote]For those living in red states, sorry about it. Use your imagination.

Not as simple as that.

Mobile carriers, like AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, etc., route through data centers to provide internet access. It varies by individual carrier, but AT&T frequently routes traffic based on load through a data center in Texas. This has the effect of showing your IP address as being in Texas, thus susceptible to the age verification laws. If you run a speed test, like Ookla, you can see the "nearest server" to which it connects for the test will often be in some random city nowhere near your physical location. Wherever that "nearest" server is is where the site will likely view your being.

You have no control over this. You cannot "reset" or reboot. It's purely controlled by the carrier and whatever load spreading algorithm they use to balance traffic.

OP looking down on us in red states like this can’t go federal with the current clown car administration.

Sharia law!

[quote] For those living in red states, sorry about it. Use your imagination.

Don't all the eldergays have hoarded stacks of old magazines and VHS tapes?

R29: “ OP looking down on us in red states like this can’t go federal with the current clown car administration.”

It might go federal sooner than you think. In Canada.

The other negative is that this channels pron traffic to shadier places on the internet. Pornhub, etc comply because they can be tracked down, sued and held accountable. But childfuckfest.zimbabwe.com couldn’t care less. Those type of awful places of the internet are still readily available in red states and always will be. Awesome.

R33, wait until states go after the communications providers, requiring them to enable child age verification

I'm of two minds on this - I don't want another place collecting my personal info or being able to identify what I watch.

On the other hand - make phones for under 18 audiences that restrict all of this. You can install blockers on PCs - I'm sure they can do the same on phones.

That's really the solution - stop giving adult phones to kids. They need to have restrictions for all sorts of things and be monitored by the parents.

The issue isn't just porn.

R35, you’re basically asking for parents to parent. That is too much to ask.

R36 - actually I think the world is stacked against parenting with everything online - how do you control it?

Under 18 phones - I really think that's a good solution. You can set how much time per day they are on certain apps, block content and see if creeps are chatting with them.

r33 that's a good point. If you're going to watch porn online it's best to stick to sites like Pornhub, Xhamster, Redtube etc. because they screen all of their content so everything is perfectly legal and you won't risk stumbling onto something that's questionable. Doing random searches for porn is never a good idea because you don't know WTF you might stumble upon.

R10 good news but mixed. The provisions stand based on the recommendations of a federal advisory committee saying these provisions are important and should be available and for free..

But they make it clear that the advisory committee is strictly advisory and its recommendations can be rejected by the Sec HHS

Sounds like the provisions stand as long as the fed govt wants them to stand.

In other news the SC ruled that kids can be pulled from class by parents in order to avoid gay day or gay subjects like drag queen story time. etc etc etc.

What r16 said.

JD Vance wants to ban porn entirely. Seriously.

Project 2025 also mentions banning porn

I bet Mike Johnson will suffer more than most of you will.

There is a large segment of the left that will approve of this ruling.

Will this cut into Melania’s side hustle?

It would be so easy. You start with a few studies or papers making the claim of porn as a serious addiction and a public health issue of significance. Then you keep that up with more stories or articles.

Look at tobacco smoking as. a model for anti porn activists today

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Incels are all about banning porn. This is a pro-incel ruling.

Nanny government out of control. School prayer next.

But tobacco smoking is unquestionably addictive and a public health issue. Porn? It's not the same thing.

I don't have to monitor my son's porn usage now - the government can do that for me!

R48

Unquestionably? As in fact or what people may believe? Or what people care bout?

Tobacco smoking was attacked not by the govt or congress or the medical community as much as it was attacked originally by anti smoking activists starting in the 1960s. And they worked the politics and the laws hard.

The US fed govt aka Surgeon General did not declare nicotine addictive until 1988. The science was Important despite the fact that the vast majority of the country have never seen a SG Report on smoking , but the hate of the activists that’s why we have a non smoking country today.

Porn today barebackers tomorrow—-enjoy the party while you can.

Bullshit r50. Tobacco smoking was proven to be deadly in the 1950s

R51 - US tobacco manufacturers testified in Congress that nicotine wasn't addictive and tobacco wasn't bad for you up until 1994. It's online. Not sure what you're talking about - they hid that for years and years. And they targeted minorities and gays (undesirables) with ad campaigns on purpose.

r52 medical science proved tobacco was deadly in the 50s. Of course the tobacco execs were lying.

So - I don't really go to official porn websites - however, amateur Reddit nudes are my jam.

Would pics be safe? Porn is so encompassing - sounds like they want to stop live action and film porn - but how the heck do you stop pics from being shared???

[quote]Incels are all about banning porn.

That's a rabbit hole I'm not sure I have either the time or inclination to examine, so... wtf? If we ban porn, what will incels do to get off? It's not like those porn actresses are going to line up to get fucked by a bunch of losers who can't get a date without threats, coercion and lies. And since incels have no money, they won't be paying escorts (well, the ones who are attractive at least).

R55, they might have to shower and get in shape, at least lose weight. But I worry about the alternative.

Female prudes play a role in this too. Amy Comey Barrett is married and has been fucked many times obviously, so she wouldn't count as a female version of an incel, but she's a total prude and we must suffer her church mom decisions.

at LPSG..

This isn’t a problem for anybody here.

R51 I was responding to and talking to someone else about the addictive nature of tobacco smoking . The US govt did not declare nicotine or tobacco smoking addictive until 1988,

Yes as you point out so well it’s also deadly, But deadly and addictive are not the same thing,

My niece found a random ID on the internet and sends a picture of that whenever a website demands ID.

Works every time

Even NY is considering IDing for porn

If you give your ID information to any site, it is not safe at all. They will likely sell it

Any ID can be ginned up using AI. It's being done to engage in employment fraud all over the place by remote workers.

Incels believe that you gain more T by abstaining and that porn rots the brain.

The UK is doing this too and they want ID or a facial scan. They’re linking porn to spousal abuse.

There is no such thing as spousal abuse in the UK

Can we add another stripe (perhaps a film strip) to the pride flag? 🏳️‍🌈 Porn pride!

It’s silly to think the fight will be over age ID. Age ID is just a tactic to be used in the fight.

r67 He and Flo are in couples counselling now. They fight with words and cold glances not fists.

How long does it take AI to make a fake ID for verification? It's blocked on some AI - but someone is always going to be willing to break the rules for money.

Or like alcohol - taking your sibling's ID or your parents. I don't think the cam thing is going to work.

Why care about your ID getting out?

Musk sold that info months ago.

Accessible porn? You mean with disabled people?

What is wrong with this. No 11 yr old should be able to easily access hardcore gangbang porn with a woman fucking multiple guys taking two dicks in her ass and one in the pussy. I’m socially liberal but agree with this.

And if you are that guarded about privacy and must consume porn don’t use the internet. Buy adult vids or actually buy legal digital porn. It is not a right to illegally watch porn which we all do.

R18 Exactly. It works. And France is way more liberal than us.

I kind of wish we could go back to having sleazy areas like Times Square where people had to go to get porn

I have a friend who moved to Florida, a former lover. He has been bitching about this for a while.

The people who don’t want this are the scum bags who actually consume and distribute child pornography, privacy zealots, and far lefties who are not accurately accessing what is happening.

Will this affect my Onlyfans channel?

I don't understand how requiring age verification to access pornography as a free speech issue when asba teenager i couldn't go to the magazine shop and purchase those magazines without proper identification so how come no one was fighting for that to be made accessible to me?

R80, because they can't steal your data the way an internet site can

The reality is that the highest traffic from the various pornhub studies is in red states.

Get ready for a lot of surprised Pikachu face "we didn't vote for this" responses from them.

R82, it was already in effect in Texas which went even more deeply red in 2024.

They voted for it again.

Redder.

R80 I understand that that's a risk with this but that doesn't really explain how this is a first amendment issue versus restricting access to these materials and media when it's in the form of DVDs and magazines.

[quote] [R35], you’re basically asking for parents to parent. That is too much to ask.

Most definitely.

Things can get a lot worse. Just think how bad things will be if there is a new gay std related out break. Access to porn will be the least of problems then.

Pornhub has cut my state off. I could get a VPN but what if every state requires verification? Will Pornhub cut off the entire country?

I live in the middle of a Flyoverstan state, but the state next door to me is mentioned on the blocked site message.

Only happens with accessing via 5G, but on WiFi it works fine.

Lots of hilarious misinformation on this thread. I'm guessing it's from the "large of ass" straight frauen who dress like their sofas.

And I expect one of them to loudly proclaim she is a gay male in short order.

No one thinks minors should have access to porn and it has gone on too long. But this does almost nothing to prevent them from seeing it.

We are already getting those phishing emails about "I saw you jerking off watching porn on your computer and recorded it - send me $500 or I will forward those recordings to all your contacts."

Can't even imagine how quickly that will escalate with the ID verification system being proposed. Welcome to the SCOTUS Brave New World.

[quote] This isn’t a problem for anybody here.

It will compromise adult privacy and digital security.

Maybe the restrictions for accessing online porn will increase the market for porn DVDs again.

How many people have DVD players anymore

R94, this crowd still has their Betamax players

R87 Then just VPN to another country. VPN doesn’t stop at state borders.

I watch porn primarily on Twitter. Twitter's minimum age to join is 13, so if they're afraid of kids watching porn, they'll have to regulate Twitter along with the actual porn sites.

R97 is correct

Weird that the right is so up in arms about kids watching porn but they love Elon Musk and shitter

Google “Drivers license” and take your pick

Submit. Done.

But, will each person have to submit to each site individually??

[Quote] I watch porn primarily on Twitter. Twitter's minimum age to join is 13, so if they're afraid of kids watching porn, they'll have to regulate Twitter along with the actual porn sites.

People should start reporting twitter to the porn watchdogs and see what happens. Will they carve out their friend’s website?

It's cheaper to make your own porn.

I was trying to access it in NY using a VPN. It must have routed through a conservative state because it kept demanding ID. I have to try again