Zohran Mamdani Proposes Taxing 'Whiter Neighborhoods' in NYC

Conservatives are being racist towards Zohran but this particular plan of Zohran's is also racist. Zohran has several stupid ideas and this is one of them.

R1, Islam is not a race.

[quote] Islam is not a race.

This response reminds me of when reactionaries on the right make bigoted and hateful comments about gays and then go "I'm not homophobic because I'm not actually scared of gays". Come on--they know exactly what they are doing and saying. They are just trying to create a smokescreen for their ignorance. And they are doing the same thing with their comments about Zohran. There is a lot you can criticize about Zohran without having to resort to racism.

This is called progressive taxation and is nothing new, his mistake was bringing race into it. I suspect we're in for four years of this.

Going after whites is something he will do over and over and over. Vote for Z and find out.

How about saying richer neighborhoods instead of white? Not a great start.

I see he's really triggering right wingers all over social media. THis place is no exception.

[quote] How about saying richer neighborhoods instead of white? Not a great start.

He's part of the DSA, it's their job to politicize and fumble everything.

Ughhh we will get 4 more years of that crook Adams, also a racist.

r7 Not everyone who doesn't want to participate in racial shit-slinging is a right-winger. We get enough of that shit from the White House, you really want the reverse of that coming from the mayor of NYC as well?

It is factually correct that NYC’s assessment methodology treats different dwellings differently, with the by-product being many poorer neighborhoods pay a higher rate than wealthy neighborhoods. It’s a long-standing issue. In the Bloomberg era some changes to the methodology weee made, but a disparity still exists.

Well, that was subtle!! That should go over well with "upper middle class white moderate Democrats"

I'm guessing the Adams people& Cuomo gang will be having a meeting after July 1st to figure things out.

I cannot wait until all the "race shit gets leaked".

R11 is correct. But though it is indeed the whiter neighborhoods that benefit, it's still a whopper of a racializing gaffe to say "whiter" right in there when talking about which neighborhoods he wants to increase taxes. He will need to disavow that bit, and edit the document.

Don't Mess With The Zohran

To R13-You just made me choke on my hot coffee with your post, it really burned but your post was funny. "He will need to disavow that bit& edit the document".... Ya think!! Isn't that like putting the horse back in the barn after it escapes? Fake News is drooling right now, the right-wing neo-nazi podcasters are getting ready. I'm waiting until the official results on July 1st.

This should work out well for him

Maga world will certainly love it. On the other hand, they'll probably have such an idiotic overreaction, filled with racism of their own, that they'll ultimately limit the damage. Trump will no doubt post something completely moronic, which can only help.

Still, dumb mistake, and I'm sure there are other little timebombs out there. One thing in his favor, the nation's just not easily shocked these days and all these little things flare up and disappear.

This is reminding me of when AOC thought she was hot shit and tried to pass that Green New Deal. Remember how she had some provision in there about how even people who didn't WANT to work would receive benefits? I'm sure Nancy Pelosi was laughing hard when it was shot down. Love or hate her, Nancy knows how to get shit passed.

Is he running in 2021? Those days are over.

I don't think him being Muslim is a problem at all, but are people really going to vote for a guy that hasn't even been a citizen for 10 years?

He’s not “going after whites.” He’s going after wealth

He’s not a qualified to manage a Dairy Queen in Iowa much less run arguably the most important city on earth.

[Quote] I don't think him being Muslim is a problem at all, but are people really going to vote for a guy that hasn't even been a citizen for 10 years?

I would think that a newer citizen is more committed

R20, people are willing to vote for someone who has never worked at a real job a day in his life, you do the math.

[Quote] He’s not a qualified to manage a Dairy Queen in Iowa much less run arguably the most important city on earth.

Neither is Cuomo or Adams, as we’ve seen from their disastrous leadership already

[Quote] This is reminding me of when AOC thought she was hot shit and tried to pass that Green New Deal. Remember how she had some provision in there about how even people who didn't WANT to work would receive benefits? I'm sure Nancy Pelosi was laughing hard when it was shot down. Love or hate her, Nancy knows how to get shit passed.

Much of the Green New Deal ultimately did pass under Biden

If Zohar is elected you can kiss the dems chances of winning the 2028 presidential election. Maga will use him as the poster boy for all democrats….a Muslim anti semantic socialist with no experience who wants to defund the police. The current demographics in the US show that 43% of all Americans are independent and 27% are dems and 27% are republicans. NYC is not representative of the general population in this country. I abhor the codependent relationship the US has with Israel…but this man is not the answer and will frighten many white voters.

R26, I know, but that AOC addition was a disaster. It was made fun up for a long time--deservedly so.

[quote] quote] He’s not “going after whites.” He’s going after wealth

Except his proposal mentions white people. Typical DSA thinking. If he was talking about wealth, he shouldn;'t have even mentioned anything about race. But he did.

It's ironic considering many of the people who voted for him are in those neighborhoods.

[quote] NYC is not representative of the general population in this country.

True, which is why most people DON'T see the mayor of New York City as representative of the entire party, no matter which party. Everyone knows that NYC is different, much more diverse, and -- shock, trauma, horror! -- more liberal (fetch the smelling salts, ma!)

I doubt he's going to have any huge effect in 2028, or 2026. People will be running against the shitstorm known as every single thing Trump has done and will do, and that will be the issue.

Any of you old queens remember New York City in the 1970s when porn theaters were everywhere and there were 1,700 murders a year? It's coming back but ten times worse and on steroids.

Do you know where you are r32? You're trying to scare people with porn theaters?

Bring back the Porn Theaters!

Well, that sounds Constitutional!

The good news is anyone with a brain will be treated to four long months of the media reporting every ridiculous thing this dope says.

He hasn't been elected yet and with his own help, he might not be!

Wish he hadn't said it, or written it, or had some author of some report write it. But still. If we can't admit that "white" and "wealth" go together, we are living in a dreamworld. We all know what he meant, even if it was a silly way to put it. But giving morons a chance to sob about all their fake oppression is never good, politically.

When r36 says "white" he means Jewish. Because you are living in dreamland if you think Appalachians are sitting on mountains of gold.

You’re living in a dreamworld --you fail to get that the context here is NYC and nowhere else.

No, r37, you clown, you fool, I did not mean Jewish. In general, white neighborhoods are wealthier than nonwhite neighborhoods. It's just a fact of life here in these United States. Yes, people in Appalachia are generally poor, and there are poor whites in many areas, but that doesn't change the fact, in general the wealthiest neighborhoods are whiter than the poorer neighborhoods. And no some Indian or Chinese fucker in Silicon Valley doesn't change the facts of life in most of the country. And no, it's not all about the Jews, you cunt.

Is that how it works now? Only two groups, Jewish and Appalachian, make up the white population of New York City?

I am truly frightened. If it's between him and Adams then I'll just stay home on Election Day.

[quote] I see he's really triggering right wingers all over social media.

One doesn't need to be a right winger to be offended by such an insensitive, racist statement such as this.

There are other white people in NYC besides Jews. The black and Jewish population of NY are decreasing with other ethnic groups taking over. NY is definitely a minority majority city though.

Saying richer people should pay more is fine. Just don’t say white because that is openly racist.

[quote] Ughhh we will get 4 more years of that crook Adams, also a racist.

Unfortunately, I agree. I saw Adams in an interview recently, shortly after the primary, and he seemed very smug about his chances in November. He's a clown, but he's smart enough to know many New Yorkers don't want to take their chances on someone like Mamdani.

“ That should go over well with "upper middle class white moderate Democrats"”

It actually will. They’re the ones who voted for the guy.

I doubt most New Yorkers are going to vote for the thoroughly corrupt and ridiculous mayor who will clearly be controlled 100% by Trump.

Does this even affect coop or condo owners. Only the mega rich own private homes in Manhattan.

R44- Watch this video. He's a total buffoon. He's like a villan on an episode of Good Times.

R42, I'm not that poster, but I'm MOST offended by the stupidity of it all. And never forget, this dude Mamdani did not vote for Kamala and made it clear on his twitter that he and the DSA were supportive of the efforts in Michigan for Palestinians and Arabs to note vote for Kamala because of Palestine. He is DSA, not a Democrat.

R43 is very wrong as to one of those two groups —clearly knows Nothing of Brooklyn.

[quote]Zohran Mamdani Proposes Taxing 'Whiter Neighborhoods' in NYC

So he doesn't want to be elected. OK. That may be best if this is how he's proceeding. Too young, too inexperienced, too stupid to know what equality and equity actually mean. The "and whiter" is disgusting, unnecessary, and unworkable. All he needed to say was that taxation should be more equitable by income/wealth/whatever and leave it at that.

Who's the Republican et al. running again, please?

Yeah, and then the Whites move and you have no tax money.

The truth is the people being ordered to be deeply offended, namely wealthy white people in wealthy neighborhoods, will probably be voting for him, after all the fake trauma dies down. The wingnuts that worship Trump were never going to vote for him in the first place, but will pretend to be deeply offended and shocked, but they won't matter much in the end.

[quote] Love or hate her, Nancy knows how to get shit passed.

And what to invest in.

[quote] "richer and whiter neighborhoods"

Even working-class, or middle-class, white people think they are in line for greater taxation. Most don't realize that they are the poor who will most likely benefit from wealth redistribution. "Richer and whiter" is Tribeca and the UES, it is not Staten Island.

Mamdani is doing what Trump did, which is awaken a new electorate previously thought unreachable:

Washington Post:

Tellingly, Mamdani didn’t just clean up in persuasion. He also activated an entirely new electorate that was previously unfathomable to New York City politicos. That could have important implications for Democrats, who struggled to both turn out and win over less-engaged voters in 2024.

[quote] NYC is not representative of the general population in this country. I abhor the codependent relationship the US has with Israel…but this man is not the answer and will frighten many white voters.

Most white voters outside of New York City have at least as much, if not more, contempt for Jewish people than any NYC muslim.

Rich whites in NYC are WASPs. Jews are second tier whites in those circles.

[quote]I doubt he's going to have any huge effect in 2028, or 2026

Trump is already referencing him in almost every press conference has - not by name but by as the Communist in NYC, that guy. NYC doesn’t represent most of America. But Mamdani will definitely be used as a boogeyman and cautionary tale in 2026/28 if he wins.

Cuomo has and would have continued to go blow for blow with Trump. He would have been able to take on this administration for NYC.

I wonder if all the educated white women who voted for him knew he did not support Harris in the last election. And actively advocated for people in a battleground state not to vote for her.

Trump will be the issue in the next two rounds of election in 2026 and 2028. Far and away, The Issue. He can reference anyone he wants, and will only influence the whores and grifters and assholes in his cult. Everyone else will be sick to death of him and all his stupid horseshit.

I'm not a fan of the extremes (Right or Left), the majority of the USA are moderates. We need to start electing those into office.

We DO elect moderates all over the country r61. It's alright if occasionally a progressive city elects an actual progressive. There is absolutely no need to panic about that.

[quote]If Zohar is elected you can kiss the dems chances of winning the 2028 presidential election

Oh honey, you think there's gonna be a Presidential election in 2028? That's so adorable.

[quote] Any of you old queens remember New York City in the 1970s when porn theaters were everywhere and there were 1,700 murders a year? It's coming back but ten times worse and on steroids.

“On steroids” is almost as cliche as “on acid.”

Do better.

[quote] This response reminds me of when reactionaries on the right make bigoted

You’re a retard. Go get tossed off a roof.

This guy has no education nor job history.

[quote] If we can't admit that "white" and "wealth" go together, we are living in a dreamworld. We all know what he meant

Huh? It’s not implied, he flat out says WHITE.

Nobody gives a fuck r66, even you. The truth is, despite these sad and stupid talking points, nobody really elects a resume. Especially when a resume usually involves whoring for the rich and pretending you're accomplishing something for anybody else.

People just aren't buying into that anymore. People want to actually know if you are willing to do anything different, or if you are just another stale old tired resume filler who simply isn't going to do much of anything but keep a stale old system creaking along.

[quote] Go get tossed off a roof.

^ Must be a Muslim

He’s not elected mayor yet, and he will receive formidable opposition before the general election. If elected, implementing some of his major policies will encounter considerable and aggressive resistance. Free bus service, rent freezes, etc., all cost $$$; and the money has to come from somewhere. Taxing upscale, predominantly white neighborhoods, and having suspicions from the Jewish community, are factors that will not render him an easy ride going forward. How crime will be handled remains a major issue.

People who own condo units and cooperative apartments pay property taxes, R47. For coop owners is less direct, but they pay a portion of the overall building’s real estate taxes via their maintenance payments.

This could be a real can of worms. I’m not against it, but the implications are significant and it would definitely lead to more upper middle class and sort of wealthy, but not “fuck you” rich people leaving the city.

Yes, that's true r70. Unfortunately, relentless whoring for the rich is the only thing that doesn't meet huge political resistance in this country. I hope he perseveres anyway, but yes, I hope he's prepared for the usual whores and grifters to come out full force against any attempt to deal with income inequality, and any attempt to make the lives of the poor and working class easier.

Mamdani is so high sniffing his own farts and being fluffed by the lazy-yet-awestruck media he will spend the next few months reminding everyone what an unqualified nutbag he is!

Free bus fare? For seniors? We have it in my city. It's not like most seniors are daily users.

R71 no it won’t. Property taxes on coops were subject to a large increase after the last change in methodology. It did not disrupt the market, at all. Everyone understands the “vagueness” of when and by how much your maintenance will increase.

I am proudly pro-semantic.

While Andrew Cuomo has accumulated plenty of baggage along the way during his career as Governor and related roles such as a Cabinet member; and his arrogance can be off putting, he does have an abundance of qualifying experiences, and knows how to work the system Remember when he was seriously talked about as being a presidential candidate? His lack of discretion in making sexual advances brought his career endeavors much harm, forcing him to resign as Governor. If he has truly changed in that regard, he does know how to get things done and battle Republicans effectively.

Cuomo ran an arrogant, lazy, uninspiring and over all terrible campaign. He deserved to lose for that alone.

I'm not a big Andrew Cuomo fan, or even a little fan, but I do think he was unfairly hounded from office as the Democratic Party descended into hysterics over the very idea that any hint of sexuality in the workplace was of the Devil and in need of exorcism. It was a very embarrassing moment all around, and I do think he was unfairly targeted by neurotics and puritans.

But that said, I just don't believe he or his type of establishment Democrat is what we need right now. There is a war raging about whether we are going to remain a democracy or simply give up and become an oligarchy, and I'm not sure I trust his instincts in that war.

Zohran's ideas will never work. Most of what he promises are out of his control. If you think his style of Socialism will benefit anyone, ask people of Cuba who've lived under it for decades.

Do you honestly believe that New York City with Mamdani as mayor will be anything remotely like Castro's Cuba r80? Be honest. You know you're completely full of shit with that fake fear, right?

The more Mamdani talks, the more we will see how unworkable his plans are. Let him talk until November, by then he'll confirm for voters that his campaign is empty promises.

And the more Mamdani's opponents talk, the more obvious it will be that they are all same-old, same-old, go along to get along, treading water, pretty much do nothing, keep everything as it is now and hope that somehow it all gets better, by magic. But they'll be big fans of Netanyahu, so, um, well, nothing really. At least nothing that matters for the people of New York.

I suspect Mamdani will be seen as the better choice in November.

I see traitorous DO-NOTHING Bernie Sanders is proclaiming the Democratic Party is now in peril and will NOT be influenced by ....Democrats!

He remains the most useless turd ever minted.

Mamdani hasn't been elected and if he is will be an even bigger failure than Bernie!

What a wonderful distraction this has been from the Big Beautiful Bill and Iran.

So, to sum up, Mamdani must be defeated cause CASTRO! No, wait, cause BERNIE! No wait, cause ISRAEL!

Just admit it. You are terrified that he will win because people are sick to death of Trump, of Trumpism, and above all the motherfucking Rich and their motherfucking nonsense.

Zohran Mamdani Proposes Waxing 'Tighter Neighborhoods' in NYC

"This is called progressive taxation and is nothing new, his mistake was bringing race into it. I suspect we're in for four years of this."

Exactly. Just say "richer." It's like he's trying to impress some small subset of the far left with the "whiter". That's SO 2021.

[quote]The more Mamdani talks, the more we will see how unworkable his plans are.

Actually, the more he talks, the more people are interested in his ideas. They are sick and tired of the same do-nothing politicians and crave something different, because the status quo isn't working.

The more his critics try to tarnish him only makes people want to know more about him. And they discover how likable and charismatic he really is.

R88 property taxes by definition are not progressive. This an issue of equalization.

[quote] I see he's really triggering right wingers all over social media. THis place is no exception.

Which kind of neighbourhood are you posting from? Curious. (My guess: gated community.)

[quote]Who's the Republican et al. running again, please?

Cuomo, Adams and Kurt Sliwa.

Pick your flavor of corrupt and/or crazy.

If they are rich, fuck em

I’m for taxing richer and whiter neighborhoods in NYC. It seems appropriate and fair.

Isn't Mamdani a no-work rich guy?

[quote] And they discover how likable and charismatic he really is.

Of course he is likable and charismatic. How else would he be so successful with such idiotic plans!?

R96 how is affordable childcare an idiotic plan? Do you stay inside when it rains? I mean, the hysterical reaction to things that are so small. Buses were free for 2-3 years in my (major) city during / after covid. These things can be done. It used to be a source of embarrassment to wail in such a childish way about things you disagree with on paper. What happened.

It really is crazy r97. Anything that doesn't begin and end with "make the rich richer" sends so many people into hysterics. It's very odd, and really pathetic what a slave the average wingnut is.

As per the immigration act anyone who joins the communist party or totalitarian regime support can be naturalized.

Nonsense.

He'll be a disaster as Mayor of NY just like every other Mayor of NY for the past half century.

That ONE poster who keeps repeating himself seems to think that because Mamdani WANTS to do it, it means it’s gonna get done. The one poster must be very new to the adult world. Girl, no one is saying his policies are horrible ideas and shouldn’t be done. We’ve all just gotten past the idea that just because a politician (which he is) wants to do something that it actually means it’s gonna get done. And what he is promising is so improbable, and he’s so inexperienced, most of us know it will never happen. You sound like you’re just rounding the second bend of your first time around the block.

He grew up privileged and wealthy R95. His mom is Mira Nair the film director. He never worked a day in his life. Why hasn't this been pointed out in the media? I've been saying it here for weeks.

What's funny is that so many apartments and commercial buildings in the "whiter" neighborhoods of Manhattan are owned by wealthy Middle Easterners and Asians.

Roughly 50% of NYC revenue comes from property tax. ~80% of that is commercial property. Commercial property is subject to a completely separate assessment methodology.

So what that foreigners own commercial real estate—it’s common in every city in the US. The “Absentee” owners you are referring to are limited to a very particular segment of the residential market in NYC.

You sound like you are actually terrified that he will accomplish what he wants r102, or at least some of it. Why is that? Why are you traumatized by the very idea of policies that help the non-rich?

[quote] The “Absentee” owners you are referring to are limited to a very particular segment of the residential market in NYC.

And there are tons of them.

So what. Perfectly legal.

No one else is buying those overpriced apts. it spreads the residential tax base. If left unsold the burden is on the developer, to their detriment.

But r108 the point is that many of them are not white.

No it’s not a point at all.

R103, it's the same thing with Bernie. Never had a real job yet he's such a "great" politician.

Yes, legal, for now r108. But why? And is that needed? Is there a downside to that? Is anybody allowed to give a shit about that downside, or is serving the rich just an end in itself?

r111 the point is that many property owners in the "whiter" neighborhoods are not white.

And as for Bernie, his job is "politician." So what? Why is that a trauma? Do you mean unless some bloated and generally useless corporation gives you a paycheck, you have no job? Why?

[quote]He grew up privileged and wealthy [R95]. His mom is Mira Nair the film director. He never worked a day in his life. Why hasn't this been pointed out in the media? I've been saying it here for weeks.

Social media has, but not the liberal legacy media.

You guys bitch about Republicans having Fox News.

But Democrats have had ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, and CNN on their side, not to mention Hollywood and print media.

That's why conservatives turned to the internet/social media, which they have perfected and is now king, whereas legacy media is dying.

Which liberals resent, because they don't want conservatives to have a voice, never mind an influential one.

A voice. Oh you silly, ridiculous whore. A voice. Fuck off, you sad twat. A voice. Conservatism hasn't shut the fuck up for 1000 years and never will. And always the same message: serve your betters, just cause.

R114 that’s not a point. That’s a “no shit.”

There are also plenty of whites in the Brooklyn and Queens neighborhoods he argues are comparatively overtaxed.

He’s been employed as a state assemblyman for years what are u talking about R103 lol? Work is work. You freaks are so disingenuous.

WTF does a State Assemblyman do R119 except run their mouth? Not trying to get into an argument but we are talking about running NYC here and all the nightmares that comes with that.

FFS r118 just STFU

I don't know. What the fuck does a finance guy do but steal and grift and spread bullshit? What does an advertising guy do? What does a PR twat do? Seriously, why are people supposed to be shocked and horrified that a politician is running for a political office, but literally any other fucker from any other profession is supposed to magically step in and run everything smoothly? What is this nonsense?

[quote] I see he's really triggering right wingers all over social media. THis place is no exception.

Here we go again.

If you’re not 100 percent lockstep with every lefty loon policy you’re either MAGA or a Nazi.

No room for nuanced thought or layered opinion. Only absolutes.

You’re as bad as the MAGATs and a huge reason why we’re losing elections with dire consequences.

Grow the fuck up, you stunted child.

In other words r123, everybody better get with the program and vote for the designated politicians handpicked by the designated committees of the designated wealthy donors, and if not, well, dammit, you must be some lefty com-simp.

Yeah, no, nobody gives a fuck and nobody is falling for that tired shit and nonsense.

You grow the fuck up, and stop trying to make mommy and daddy proud that you are coloring inside the lines. Nobody gives a fuck.

Saying fuck over and over again doesn’t make your posts any better.

Left wing woke is a cult, they do not believe they stand on the shoulders of moderate and liberal Dems, they have no respect for anyone with a different opinion. Love calling everyone Boris. They need their own Laura Loomer to be complete.

Fine, r125, but still, you can answer the actual objections and not get caught up in diversions about language.

So, is anybody ever, in any city in this country, ever allowed to be to the left of Joe Manchin, or is that forbidden? I get the feeling from our dear moderates that, no, everybody must always run as if they are running in the reddest parts of West Virginia. I dissent.

[quote] In other words [R123], everybody better get with the program and vote for the designated politicians handpicked by the designated committees of the designated wealthy donors, and if not, well, dammit, you must be some lefty com-simp.

Again, any non agreement and you’re an establishment toady trying to stick it to the people or a MAGAt. It’s like a mental illness. Black and white thinking, like Cluster Bs.

Understand that most realistic Democrats don’t think a politically inexperienced, nepo, ex-rapper who openly states he wants to tax wealthy white people and devote tens of millions in taxpayer money for free trans surgeries as the leader of the world’s most important city is the best representative of their party. And the deranged yet very clever right will use him as an example of everyone of the “left.” They are very good at that.

Were you not awake last November? Do you pay attention? That nonsense is like trying to sell spoiled milk.

That childlike idealism will leave the rest of us under permanent Republican rule while you strut around with that elitist chip on your left shoulder.

…. good and hard

Most Democratic New York primary voters seem to disagree with you r128. Are you prepared to listen to them, or are you only interested in hearing from the "moderates" who are the ones who actually lost in November, terrified of expressing any view that hadn't been filtered through a thousand moderating committees. This policy of trying to always meet the insane Republicans halfway is a loser. We should drop it and stop telling ourselves it is the only sensible policy. It sucks, and it fails.

“This policy of trying to always meet the insane Republicans halfway is a loser.”

lol I didn’t even try that and still lost lol

I used to roll my eyes at every whacko thing AOC used to say, but she's put in the work and listened. While I doubt she could win statewide in New York or the entire country for that matter, she is so much better than she was. I hope this guy is willing to listen and learn and that city council has enough guardrails in place to keep him in check.

[quote] Are you prepared to listen to them, or are you only interested in hearing from the "moderates" who are the ones who actually lost in November, terrified of expressing any view that hadn't been filtered through a thousand moderating committees.

They were terrified. Terrified of saying drop the loser trans talk. Terrified of saying “they/them” is killing the party. Terrified of saying totally open borders are, indeed, a really bad idea. Terrified of saying policing language and cancelling people for social faux pas from 40 years ago are a really, really bad ideas.

You’re absolutely right. Sane Democrats were terrified. And they still are.

Actually, r133, they were terrified of responding to the loser trans talk or the anti trans ad. Some dumb bitch told them that "rising above" was the way to go, which pretty much never works. Never rise above, change the subject to the rich, their constant nonsense and bullshit, and the need to stop being terrified of taxing them or even of not putting their whims and "needs" first and foremost. Mamdani has the better idea: go after the fuckers (oops, there's that word again) and nail them for their chronic, useless selfishness and greed. Never rise above, always kick them in the dick or the twat, as the case may be.

r133, that's a bunch of bullshit. Taking a look at one issue only, the borders were not wide open in the last two years of Biden's term ,and during his first few years, there was a rebound effect of Trump's illegal behavior in not allowing people to apply for asylum - a right guaranteed by AMERICAN law ever since we became signatories to the Geneva Convention on Refugees. If you read the linked article, you'll get some notion of the complexity of the situation, but, long story short, under the Biden administration, 3.7 million people were returned back to the border. Biden allowed about 3.2 million to enter as legal asylum seekers. Hardly the 10 million widely used as a figure by Republican politicians.

[quote]Actually, the more he talks, the more people are interested in his ideas.

BWAHAHAAHAHA!

"Bottom surgeries" for all! All for free!

CNN called Mamdani the "future of the Democratic Party."........No wonder nobody watches them anymore.

[bold] Mamdani wants taxpayers money to pay for little kids transitions. No word yet on WHO is going to pay the LAWSUIT SETTLEMENTS when the little kids sue New York for cutting off their body parts. [/bold]

You, r137, you are going to pay for each and every child's sex change.

There, feel better? Or at least more bitter?

[quote]how is affordable childcare an idiotic plan? Do you stay inside when it rains?

Newsflash!

EVERY DEMOCRAT whom you despise and slander has worked on child-care and pre-school for the last forty years! There is not a complete lack of subsidized child care in NY/America and your pretending this is some BRILLIANTS FRESH YOUNG DSA notion is beyond ridiculous! You never-voters really give yourselves away so easily! Even the terrible Bill DeBlasio made good progress on universal pre-K!

NY Democrats have created the very widely used 80/20 affordable rental program which has added thousands new rent-stabilized units to the city's rental stock. I don't know even ONE Mamdani voter who had ever attended a town hall or event run by their Assemblyman, or State Senator, but a TON of them are rabid AOC and Bernie fans who regularly vote third-party or not at all. Typical. The word is JEJUNE!

Christ so many suffering from severe "Shiny Object Syndrome" with this feckless and unqualified dilettante!

"They don't like Mamdani BECAUSE HE'S BROWN!"

Hun. Oprah is brown. Mamdani is "white adjacent" with ALL of the privileges.

[quote] Two major labor unions that backed Andrew Cuomo’s failed Democratic mayoral bid are set to endorse upstart democratic socialist Zohran Mamdani. The Hotel and Gaming Trades Council and 32BJ SEIU, which represents building service workers in New York City, are intending to back the Democratic nominee as Cuomo ponders whether to run as an independent.

He’s easy on the eyes and he smiles a lot.

He REFUSES to use the term "LGBT". He only uses the term LGBTQIA PLUS!! [bold]He learned nothing last November. Not a fucking thing. [/bold]I look forward to his humiliating defeat.

Cuomo can ponder whether to run in the Kentucky Derby. Ain't nobody caring about him right now.

All eyes on Zohran, the man of the hour.

Do we think he’s heterosexual?

The betting markets have Mamdani winning in a landslide.

R140- He looks pretty damn white to me. He's a very light skinned Indian. He could easily pass for a Southern European.

I SEETHE when virtuous straights say LGBTQIA+!!!

It enrages me!

I make it a point to only say Gay & Lesbian. Th other groups can pound salt!

R106 - did you read what I wrote? If you didn’t, go back and read it. Then you’ll be able to tell us all why what you just asked me makes no sense.

Young, wealthy, white women are the ones who made this happen, right? It would be interesting to see the voting margins of people who were born and raised there, vs the Carrie Bradshaw transplants.

Wealthy white people love hearing shit like this shit for fucked up psychological reasons, but middle class and poor white people hate it , and rightfully so. And there are more middle class and poor white voters than wealthy ones. That's the part people praising this shit don't get. Keep fucking that chicken and expecting different results.

r132, yes, AOC is much better than she used to be.

The People's Republic of NYC! Get use to it suckers and losers.

NYPost picked it up now. Of course, DL had it first!

Well, technically, Newsweek had it first...

It’s looking more and more like the Democratic party is going to have to split into two. The far left and the more centrist ideas that have ruled the Democratic Party for the prior forty years are worlds apart.

Divide and Conquer!

I guess Cuomo is still running. He’s staying on as a candidate.

When centrist Democrats can win again, then let’s talk. But they gave us Trump twice, Republican control of Congress over and over since 1994, and massive debt fueled mostly by tax cuts and wars.

Buy stock in popcorn this summer, because the Dem party will be clawing and clawing at one another. Hissssssss.

Majorie Taylor Stupid just posted a photo of the Statue of Liberty covered in a full burka. Oh my, Zohran you in danger gurl.

I am so sick of racism.

R7, right, it’s all just to bate the right

An issue that I have with candidates like Mamdani is that while he can play in New York City-which is fine, but Republicans then try to tie him to more mainstream democrats in places where that sort of thing doesn't play as well. It becomes an unnecessary distraction to moderate candidates who don't want to have to answer questions about state-run grocery stores and taxing white neighborhoods more.

The shelf life on the Ancients warning against Muslims (“Sharia law!”) and socialism (“it doesn’t work!”) may have finally expired. The NY airwaves were flooded with this messaging and it didn’t work. People are finally realizing that this game always favors the same rich people at the expense of everyone else.

As a counterpoint, R159, I would argue that without the Bernie factor, Hillary would have easily won in 2016. Bernie depressed enthusiasm for her candidacy from the start, and even helped sell Trump’s “crooked Hillary” messaging.

He looks like a reluctant power bottom

There wouldn’t be any reluctance with me.

R18 do nothing slackers should still get welfare actually, aoc was right

[quote]The shelf life on the Ancients warning against Muslims (“Sharia law!”) and socialism (“it doesn’t work!”) may have finally expired.

The Sharia law stuff doesn't work against Mamdani as he appears to be a secular Muslim and his views on Islam and "zionism" are as much a feature of populist left wing politics as they are his personal faith.

But where has socialism worked? What examples of socialism would you say demonstrate its success?

Taxing the rich sounds good. White or black or brown rich sounds right. Tax em.

Find an open, accepting, and loving gay community in any Muslim country and let me know about it, please. I want to visit and be part of the Muslim love!

And you think the US is accepting of gays here, R172? I’ll give you a Muslim country that’s pretty good for gays: Jordan. I’d rather be gay in Amman than some of these country redneck areas in America. Once Trump’s rightwing Supreme Court does away with gay marriage, you won’t have a leg to stand on.

To R158, If Cuomo stays in& runs as an Independent, Mayor Adams has to drop out!! Adams will not win as an independent candidate against Zohran. Silva, not going to happen.

I don't believe anything that comes from the NY Post, waiting for real answers.

Called several NYC clients& my Boss-Big G-they would know if it's true

[quote] I’ll give you a Muslim country that’s pretty good for gays: Jordan. I’d rather be gay in Amman than some of these country redneck areas in America.

You are so full of shit. I have family living in Amman and you would not want to be gay and live there.

[quote] The shelf life on the Ancients warning against Muslims (“Sharia law!”) and socialism (“it doesn’t work!”) may have finally expired.

I wouldn’t say that on the edge of a roof in northern Michigan.

If a Republican ran against Hochul next year for Governor without the Trump stench, they would easily win. A socialist mayor of NYC would galvanize the rest of the state to support them. I also think a Republican will be the next Governor of NJ unless the Dem runs a brilliant campaign.

This guy is toxic. He should have just stuck to "richer".

He negated whatever else might be good about him.

Any Rethug running for Gov in NY next year will have the stench of dtrump.

R139, THANK YOU!!!! It's like when progressives talk about how Bernie introduced discussion about universal healthcare. Except he did no such thing. These people have the memory of a hamster. They must not have read or heard about FDR, Truman, Nixon, Hilary or Obama, all of whom tried to get universal healthcare passed (only the latter came close to succeeding). There is a big difference between all of those people and Bernie. Bernie was the first to throw around words like "Scandinavia", "socialism (ina positive context)", and, their favorite, "FREEEEE". He just says what people want to hear. Same with Mamdani.

[quote] I’d rather be gay in Amman than some of these country redneck areas in America.

Delusional--as of 2019, only 7% of people in Jordan think that gays should be accepted. There is not a single red state with numbers that low.

Those Whiter Neighborhoods, in NYC, easily fall into the +$400K category that Democrats need to raise taxes on nationally.

It is also the reason Democrats need to reinstate the SALT deduction.

Just a good first step in a coordinated move to raise taxes on the rich.

He needs to be supported in this effort.

Or Lieberman, r180, the Democratic motherfucker who killed the public option.

R183, yes, that man is trash. It is unbelievable that he tanked the public option for his own ego. Also, Ted Kennedy admitted that his own biggest regret was not going along with Nixon's plan for universal healthcare. He convinced the unions not to support the plan.

If you are gay in any Muslim country you have a chance of extreme bodily harm if you live openly. The Muslims don't like gays. In fact, most would shoot to kill if given half a chance. Mamdani needs to condemn his own people before he can judge anyone else.

For a family who abused the health system themselves, the Kennedys sure have been eager to harm it.

R186, this is why I cannot get with the whole "Camelot" BS. The Kennedys have a "classy mystique" to many Americans but they would perfectly fit in on Jerry Springer or Maury.

He means tax the Jews, right?

r188, according to DL's loons, he means he wants to push gay men off of rooftops.

" I’d rather be gay in Amman than"

You're welcome to move there. Be sure to tell everyone you suck cock when you do.

Be the first to start a gay pride march in Jordan and see how embraced it all is. Muslim countries do not tolerate gays.